The BIGGEST Misconceptions Protestants Have About the Catholic Faith with Jimmy Akin

An interview with Frank Turek: crossexamined....

[@davidtalley6939]

I have the unique privilege of being in the parish with Jimmy Akin. He is a very approachable person.

[@jamesmonahan9408]

I was in mass every Sunday or Saturday. Did I pay attention when I was young? No. Now I completely understand it. Jimmy, very well explained. God bless everyone.

[@LauraBeeDannon]

I didn't even understand the letters from Paul were in the bible. 😂My parents failed a bit. No fault of the church. Now I'm a catechist🤷‍♀️

[@Griemmy]

Mee toooo

[@annb9029]

Lots of bad catholic education and ccd for years it is getting better now

[@toddgruber5729]

I can’t believe Frank invited Jimmy on his show…I’ve seen 2 times recently! This is so awesome. God is working. Jimmy rocks. I think Frank is super interesting to listen to as well.

[@johnbrion4565]

Frank please keep talking to people like Jimmy and also consider spending time with Dr. Scott Hahn and Dr. John Bergsma at the St. Paul center in Steubenville. Also great job representing the Catholic position in this interview Jimmy.

[@davidjanbaz7728]

Keep listening to Frank!!!

[@johnbrion4565]

@@davidjanbaz7728 what do you mean? I don’t need to be convinced about the truth of Christianity. Frank however is not well informed on the Catholic position.

[@bradleytarr2482]

If you hear the Nicene Creed recited aloud, then you hear a great and powerful summary of the Gospel message every Sunday.

[@mikeoconnor4590]

A great presentation on differences between Protestant and Catholic understanding of justification. Clear and concise Thanks Jimmy

[@johns.9659]

I hope that if you are a catholic who attends Mass you will not only hear of God’s Grace but also be disposed to receive His Grace which is present in the Eucharist.

[@johns.9659]

@eucharistangel4662 don’t be stupid

[@willd127]

I’m a graduate of Southern Evangelical Seminary. I’m also taking steps to become Catholic. It’s funny how the Lord works things out.

[@shiammi907]

Dear Jimmy Akin🙏🏽Very sincerely💖Thank you for this interview! The Lord bless you!!!✨

[@MeredithTripp-tn7su]

Loved this. Jimmy has such a clear way of communicating Catholic teachings. Great to see everyone getting along here!

[@RuslanKD]

This was a great conversation

[@alisterrebelo9013]

Hey Ruslan, when are you bringing Jimmy on?

[@tonyl3762]

Was clever to take the opportunity to point out the divisions in Protestantism from the very beginning: Lutheran, Calvinist, Anabaptist, Anglican, etc. Might have been good to mention Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15 in explaining Trent and Vatican 2. You did a fantastic job representing Catholicism, as usual!

[@alisterrebelo9013]

The informal truce that exists between the Protestant denominations is built on a collective opposition to the Catholic Church. Even more than Sola Scriptura, the only unanimous agreement appears to be that 'the Catholic Church is wrong' - two of the most unbiblical beliefs.

[@gabepettinicchio7454]

Two great gentlemen & 2 brother's in Christ. Very informative video. God Bless you both, as well as your families!

[@Elizabeth-mp6tr]

Jimmy! I am THRILLED at this discussion! PLEASE, PLEASE, CONTINUE!

[@kimfleury]

Oh that blasted 10 minute homily! I'm a revert who grew up on the 10 minute homily. Upon my return to the Faith, I happened in passing to learn that the 10 minute homily was proposed at a meeting of the United States Council of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) sometime in the late 1960s or early 1970s. The proposal was made by Bishop Kenneth Utner (sp?) of Saginaw, MI. My own bishop, Archbishop (later Cardinal) Dearden of Detroit, embraced the idea, and as I recall, it lines up with the time period when our parish installed a clock over the entrance directly across from the altar. I recall the humble little priest giving his humble little homilies, and then after the clock was hung, he started ending more abruptly. I was very young, but I do recall times when I was thinking, "Wait! I know there's more!" Not that I wanted him to go on. After all, we were going to Grandma's and Grandpa's right after Mass for Sunday dinner. But I have this personality that wants to know the ending of a story that someone starts to tell, and it bugged me that I didn't get to hear it all. Anyway, that advice to stick to 10 minutes is out the window in the Archdiocese of Detroit these days. It's still not an hour long homily, or even a half hour, but 20 minutes is common in the parish I've been attending since COVID reopening.

[@mckennarussell4510]

My deacon at my parish gives the homily once a month and always goes for like 30 minutes. That homily makes my former-Protestant heart happy. However, I love our priests short homilies just as much

[@billmartin3561]

This needs to be a 2 hour or more episode to cover many more misunderstandings of the Catholic Church.

[@NuLeif]

I really appreciate the honest and respectful discussion between two highly intelligent men who want to serve Christ. I hope there will be future videos made on other topics. As one who knows Frank personally (and from SES), I pray he comes home just as I did last year. He is a deeply committed man who loves truth. Your (and Catholic Answers staff) direct and logical approach to answering my objections, played a significant role in my conversion to the Catholic Church. Keep up the good work of speaking the truth in love. God bless you and your ministry.

[@att9060]

My parents were protestants (Baptist) once but my Dad went through Church history thoroughly and we finally joined Catholic

[@hobbywright8495]

Jimmy, you are really good at your work brother. Thank you. Ps, the wheels are turning in Frank’s mind and eyes. He said he would love it if the Catholic Church were true. I am a revert and was an ill formed Catholic, who heard the gospel at one mass- prodigal Sunday, and it sparked a conversion that culminated in street ministry. I ended up AG and years later I had an intense debate with a priest. I said something similar to Frank, but I said if God wants me to be Catholic I will be Catholic. The priest said, really? I said, yes, I will ask him again. God, if you want me to be Catholic, I will. Boom. Long story on my youtube channel. “Why I am Catholic”

[@taylorhughes59.5]

Thanks, Jimmy and Frank!

[@SterlingJames]

Jimmy is the Catholic Grenade no pagan or Protestant wants to mess with. Love you Jimmy! God bless.

[@Melynn13]

Well spoken, Mr. Akin. ❤

[@amandasummitview7898]

We hear all about God's grace poured out for us and respond to this all through the liturgy of the Eucharist.

[@jetc4332]

Excellent conversation. Thank you!

[@chrisalan11rus]

We need the part 2! This was amazing

[@tranhien3482]

I will add my prayer for Dr. Frank every day from now on. It would be awesome to have him come home. I love his style.

[@lcronovt]

Thanks for the Podcast name! Already following you in Spotify! Thanks!

[@matthewmikulice3159]

This was so wonderful, thank you!

[@pepitodetijuas8949]

Exelent conversation , I like Frank but wonder why he is not Catholic , I think Jimmy told us why Frank hears but does not listen , Jimmys explenation of Grace is the best I have ever heard from a Catholics , I think Jimmy just put a kink on Franks Protestant shield , Jesús created One Church one truth and Jimmy is spreading the Good News .

[@NorCalTesting]

I had a similar experience (fam left Catholicism at 10) in that when I read Romans 10:9 as a new Protestant I was blown away. Why is the Catholic church making things so complicated? Why can’t they just preach the simple message of salvation? Took many years to understand that basic level of the initial stages of salvation will cause many (self included) to be the bad seeds in the parable of the sower. Back to Catholicism at 46 and very grateful 🙏🏻

[@genx-tv]

True, Catholicism is very bad in conveying the core message of the faith. Many Catholics (priests) use many words and terminology, but fail to let people truly SEE the main message. Even with simple things, like God's love and Jesus Christ's love for us. Words constantly repeated in the homily, but where is this love then put into ultimate expression? Where can we truly understand this love in an act that is more than just those words? Of course it is the cross and the sacrifice. But why? Many Catholics will not be able to really bring forth the story of this ultimate love, and yet it is there in the words of Jesus: "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends". Protestants are more clearly able to convey it. I truly admire protestants for this. Of course, it is there always in the Eucharistic prayer, but sometimes these words become just words. Every Catholic needs to truly understand it, and which task lies with the priest. So I get that protestantism is very enticing. But what protestants fail to see is that we also need to eat the sacrifice, the Lamb of God, literally. For all the knowledge many protestants have, many deny to see the parallels between the old blemish free lamb offering and the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ. The flesh of the Lamb truly has to be eaten. They laugh at us finding it silly, but for the first 1500 years every Christian agreed about the Eucharist being the true body and blood of Jesus Christ. This is something even protestants can't deny when they delve into history and the writings of the Church Fathers. So even when I sometimes doubt some practices within Catholicism, protestantism is no option once you understand this.

[@mikesarno7973]

I pray for Dr Turek, by name, every night. I pray for the salvation of his soul and his return to the Church.

[@jellyphase]

Frank Turek has placed his faith in Christ, been baptized, and devotes his life to sharing the gospel, especially among college students. Your comment implies that Frank is not saved simply because he does not adhere to a Roman Catholic tradition. It’s incredibly insulting, and shame on you for denying a brother in Christ.

[@mikesarno7973]

@@jellyphase My comment does not imply any of what you inferred. Please, watch this video in its entirety to understand what a practicing Catholic means with regard to our separated brethren. You could have watched the entire video. You could have asked me what I meant. You could have been conciliatory. Instead, you assumed and shamed me. I forgive you, brother. Just do better in future, for your sake and for the sake of the other who might be tempted to reply in kind. Please, pray for me and know of my prayers for you.

[@PatrickBurdine]

Two of my favorite apologists having a civil conversation.

[@BobBob-yj6pg]

Excellent conversation and much preferable to debate. Would love to see this format with an atheist as well.

[@slavicsoup7762]

God bless frank!!!

[@sozonpv]

So glad that Frank's mom's prayers are being answered. Baby steps.

[@erin6083]

As a mother myself I love this comment best!

[@makingthecut5815]

I like the work Frank does and really appreciated his respectful dialogue with Jimmy here. 🙏

[@mikeyangel1067]

I’m very glad to see this friendly exchange and dialogue of theology and over all Christian doctrine. Christians must be fraternal with each other or all of Christianity will continue its current free-fall from family, society and world culture. “A divided house will not stand” We must hear each other in, with, and through the love of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@GrislyAtoms12]

Mr. Akin I have learned quite a bit from you, and was able to root out some errors in my thinking just from watching your videos. Thank you very much!

[@darrell233]

Jimmy, I agree we always blame those for our flaw of not hearing especially when we are young. We often have our own rose colored glasses on and will never understand that we Worship at Mass not study.

[@redcon14]

Beautiful work

[@GivingAlms-pz9ds]

This is incredible. I’ve prayed for this man to know what the Catholic Church truly teaches. This is an answer to prayer. Wow.

[@anjpadilla003]

Jimmy is on such another level

[@CatholicCraig]

God bless Jimmy Akin! So glad he is on our side.

[@georgekavanagh8220]

If you need 'a side' get fries. Us against them is so sad.

[@CatholicCraig]

@@georgekavanagh8220 well just like the rest of the history of church existence, we need smart intellectuals like Jimmy to defend the faith against heresy and false teachings. The side I’m referring to is the side of truth and defending the church Jesus started. Hopefully preventing people from leaving it because the false teachers are also smart and can lead people astray. And hopefully bringing people back into it who have left. You the person I love. The church/belief system your following is false. I love you enough to want better for you. As does Jimmy. I’ll take the fries also.

[@caseycampbell1386]

I like both speakers. 👍🏻

[@danielscott8934]

Great discussion. I think we need more podcasts clarifying the views of the Catholic faith. There is a lot of misinformation out there that causes unnecessarily division. Thanks Jimmy.

[@Mateusofchrist]

I always love when I hear people say "I was brought up Catholic" and that turns into -> but I never looked into it or the early church or I never did my research, never asked any of my priests or deacons etc about church history. I just couldn't get behind what they do so I left.

[@Army4Runner]

We go to Mass every Sunday and hear about the sacrifice of Christ every single time! It’s called the liturgy of the Eucharist.

[@kmbob33]

Two of my favorite apologists. So great to see this

[@RetroLiveStreamStudio-nu2yf]

We need more of this two

[@kerrybracken5026]

Rank you. This discussion means so much to me. 👌🙏🏆

[@shavaughn1980]

I converted to Catholicism in 2001. I have the opposite experience of the Frank. It very well could because I wasn't paying close in the potential but I don't remember hearing a whole lot about Grace and my protestant Church. My kids go to Catholic school. On Mondays and Tuesdays I go to my Catholic church. On Wednesdays Thursdays and Fridays I go to mass at my kid's school out of convenience because I can drop them off and then park and go into Mass. I hear about Grace and both churches at almost every mass. What Jimmy Aiken said about not all priests are good preachers is very true. Regardless though, what he said about the prayers we say during mass is also very true. Do you mindlessly say the prayers at Mass not paying attention to what you're saying or are you really focusing on them and saying them with your heart?

[@freddiefreihofer7716]

Petra is Greek for "rock". The masculine form is Petros. As a name it = "Rocky". Thus, "You are Rocky, and upon this rock I will build my church". Decide for yourselves, friends. Etymologies of these types were very significant to people in classical times.

[@jaydarlin331]

😂 snap...that clap back was Holy!!!! He said he neverrr heard about grace in the Catholic Church and about how God's grace only saves and Jimmy said well well well do you remember saying Lord I am not worthy to receive you but only say the word and my soul shall be healed! Made my morning, it did 😂🙏

[@timbobsm]

Just two comments: One as Jimmy pointed out, there are good homilists and there are bad homilists. If Frank has never heard a priest talk about Grace, He is more than welcome to come to my parish as the current priest and the previous two priests talked about grace in every homily they give or have given. It is the second main theme with the first being the eucharist. Two, Frank stated toward the end of the pod cast that he would love to return to the Catholic Church if he thought that it was the one true church. My question then is did he find the true church in his current denomination? If not, then return to the Catholic Church and do further study as to why it is the "one, holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church", (personally I think he WANTS to return and that is why he is having these discussions with Jimmy.) God's blessings and GRACE be with you both!

[@chrissiah999]

I thought about what Frank said about not hearing about Grace during mass. If he only opened his heart to listen and see, the God of the Universe is pouring out His overflowing graces in the Eucharist. There are no words in the world to even describe.

[@AVMamfortas]

One chap asks, "Why don't we hear about Grace in Homilies"? I ask him, what church did you go to? My Church (A Traditional Latin Mass ) speaks of Grace, and of Sin, and of Hell, and of Goodness, and of being saved. When we are young (and often even later as oldsters) we often just do not listen.

[@ZanethMedia]

36:06 it is such a shame that Frank Turek left the church because of a mix of his lack of attention, and one bad Christmas homily. I pray that all of us Catholics do our best to represent the church and the words that she puts in our mouths given by God.

[@luzza2628]

I agree that are some priests that are bad to say the sermon but it seems that this guy just looks for anything to put down or criticize the church. May the Lord gives us his grace , humility and wisdom to understand him 🙏🏼 I really enjoy very much listening to you Jimmy, God bless you and guide you 🙏🏼

[@charlesmuhmanson3928]

I still have a big issue with the Marian dogmas. If you want to believe them, most are benign. But when you add anathemas for not believing them, that is where Catholicism overreaches.

[@letsdiscuss-withaustin5193]

What a great answer to his anecdotal story about not hearing about grace and what Jesus did on the cross. That seemed difficult to believe. I feel that we as Catholics talk quite a bit about grace (as the life of God). Maybe it is because Catholics don't have the more Calvanistic perspective on grace or more general protestant perspective as far as grace just being sort of like "mercy". Way to point out that we talk about those things in the mass EVERY TIME. I think it is also a little bit of misunderstanding as to what is important in Catholicism, the homily isn't the highlight, the worship and the prayers are the highlight of it.

[@frinchk]

I am catholic and deeply rooted in it. But I'm sorry to say that Franck makes a valid point on the poor preaching in a large majority of the Catholic masses. At least in Europe. There are excellent catholic preachers, but they are an exception.

[@carapompilla]

If he didn't listen probably he should read about, because all my life being catholic I have listened about the Grace and I have read about the Grace. Obviously the liturgy of the Sunday require a sermon adapted to the writings of the day and the liturgical year. For Catholics all is Grace.

[@DarkKnightofThrones]

So he's never heard Grace, but Jimmy points out that before we receive the Eucharist, we make a declaration of Grace "Lord I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed"; as well as coming right off of pointing out the difference of saying the words and hearing the words. Come on Frank. We love you, but don't deny that Grace is preached at every Mass.

[@PhillipCummingsUSA]

Frank Turek hasn't heard about Grace in Catholic Mass? Maybe he should visit my parish in Topeka Kansas...

[@timcooper1321]

he certainly has some very poorly informed views of the Catholic Church as do most of these protestants

[@arthurandteresabeem7142]

Why I came into the Catholic Church at the height of when the priests and bishops were being accused of homosexual pedophilia, when all the Catholics I knew were, at best, those who went on Easter once a year and honestly were terribly sexually promiscuous and didn't know Christ at all, when all the Catholics I knew were tepid about reading God's Word and couldn't get the first thing right about what scripture said: BECAUSE it is the Church Christ started. That's all one needs to know. The truth is found in Christ. Life is found in Christ. And no matter what you think about the Catholic Church, it is Christ's church. And what I have discovered is that while all those things above are true, the Catholic Church is home to the greatest saints of all time. It has exponentially done better things than all its sins. It protected the Bible with its life, it copied the Bible and sent the Bible across the world. It brought us law and justice and orphanages and protection for women and children, it brought us the power of the sacredness of human life. The Catholic Church is always shown in the darkest of lights but when you know her, she becomes miraculous. Her interpretation of scripture is like a lightning bolt of supernatural brilliance. Satan knows where to expend his energy and that is on lulling Catholics into their Laodicean slumber and lukewarmness. The Catholic Church is ground zero of Armageddon and the battle for the souls of billions. It is the place of the greatest darkness and light of the last few millennia. If you want to join this battle of good against evil, join the Catholic Church and fight for Christ!

[@Valentix4God33]

Amen!

[@Heracleetus]

Would love to see a show on misconceptions that trads have

[@marcosdisiervi6481]

God wants us to do our best in our progress to holiness. If you do not do God's work, you'll be confronted by that in the judgment day. There's the exaggerated desire to know what saves and what doesn't save. First of all, let's keep the judgment to God. Changing topic: bad preaching by priests is a sign of the big apostasy in the true Church. I'll pray for Frank, he's a truth seeker.

[@7Archie4]

That's so strange. He went to a Catholic school and never heard of Grace? Seriously? I went to primary, secondary, and higher education in a Catholic institution, and Grace was always mentioned or seen on posters in the school's walls, especially when we prayed the Rosary during lunch time. "Hail Mary full of Grace" and in every Religious subject as well as courses in Higher education. Come on, the Protestant host is totally lying.

[@Army4Runner]

As a Catholic convert, and as a person who enjoys Frank’s apologetics, I think he’s being a bit disingenuous about the “I never hear grace at Mass!” claim. It is literally in every part of the Mass, from the liturgy of the Word to the liturgy of the Eucharist. Just sayin’…..

[@jayv3264]

I’ve read two dozen comments to this video now that basically surmise: If you’re not Catholic, you don’t know much if anything about Catholicism. I’m guessing (I have to, since it’s usually a be-all end-all with nothing added after the period) the implication is: If you knew a sufficient amount about Catholicism, you’d be Catholic. Take that line of reasoning: If you knew enough about X, you’d be(come) X. Replace Catholicism with anything else for X. It’s self-defeating. Why? Because if you knew enough about Protestantism, you’d be(come) Protestant. See how you can flip your own rhetoric around to cancel it out? You can make this declaration with just about anything else to illustrate it as absurd. If you knew enough about France, you’d be(come) French (this is used regarding immigrants, by the way). If you knew enough about blacks, you’d be(come) black (this is used by ideological political progressives, by the way). If you knew enough about wolves, you’d be(come) a wolf (this is used by pantheists, particularly AmerIndian strains, by the way). So, before you just emotionally lash out at me for pointing out the shortcoming of said declaration, consider making a more modest claim. This will require more words and some nuance, I know. And I know social media (KZbin is a part of social media) users (not the platforms, but the platforms’ users) prefer less words and short soundbites. The thing is, if you enjoy Jimmy Akin’s work (as do I very much), then you already appreciate ever more material in ever greater detail being produced. So therefore, you too should appreciate modifying your commentary (which illustrates your worldview) for greater truth and clarity. After all, your end-goal is unity, right?

[@Dienekes678]

Rather, if you understood Catholicism, you'd be Catholic. If you understood the truth of Protestantism, you'd definitely be Catholic!

[@MelissaCaskey-wm7zp]

It’s interesting to me that Frank only considers the gospel preached at mass if it comes out of the mouth of the priest. But they also criticize us listening to the priest so much and not acknowledging the gospel. Jimmy is correct- you are hearing about Gods grace and Jesus’ sacrifice all throughout Mass if you are listening

[@johnminardi6481]

I wish the title was different. This title sounds like click bait but the discussion was excellent

[@KenKopelson]

Many times in the mass we hear the words: "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Or: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ."

[@HannahClapham]

@Playsitloud1 I am actually sad to hear Jimmy started out as a conservative Presbyterian. I pray he comes home.

[@Kitiwake]

The homily isn't a sermon and is not the high point of the Mass. Just another quick point, Jimmy Akin is no coward. And he put it straight square to Frank who "blames" the. Catholic church for not "preaching grace*.

[@atnyzous]

Every single mass, "may the grace of the Almighty God be with you now and forever..."

[@mulipolatuuumataafatiufeaa4964]

Jimmy Akin is one of the greatest Catholic Apologists, and so interestingly, he briefly speaks about his conversion to the Catholic Church and Wow. What a story? Frank, in his own words in this program, said he was a Catholic and no longer. It's weird, and I question why?? It's like Frank was in heaven, and then he chose to leave heaven like Adam and Eve and hide away naked in some otherplace. Ha ha. I'm praying for his reversion

[@chuckmowry5951]

"I never heard the word grace" then I suspect you weren't paying much attention.

[@jeffreytan5840]

Doug Beaumont worked for Norman Geisller for years and climbed the ranks. He is Catholic now. He's also on youtube. One thing Protestants have to understand and accept is that: GOD IS PERFECT. because He is perfect, everything He DOES is perfect, SINCE it is PERFECT, He will do the same thing AGAIN and AGAIN. From history, God has ALWAYS used ONE man, SINFUL, HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE man to do His work. Even Pagan Kings are not exemption. God has NEVER leave just 1 book or 1 writing to do His will. Jesus who is GOD, left His apostles to do His will. He too left ONE MAN as their Leader. Peter. ONLY the Catholic Church has proof and can name Peter's successors from Peter himself to now Francis. That is the sound pattern of doctrine. God's patterns are PERFECT. The bible requires interpretation, thats why there are thousands of denominations using the very SAME bible but differentiate in beliefs.

[@thenazarenecatholic]

That background music at 0:30 sounds straight from Timesplitters 2

[@manny75586]

Kinda odd that Frank never heard about Grace at Mass. I can't think of a recent homily I've heard where some element of Christ's sacrifice or the Lord's commands were touched upon.

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

Tarring all with the same brush is a fallacy. Having said that, in my extremely small catholic congregation, we have visiting priests. One of them had the audacity to mention Oprah Winfrey as some sort of example, and also talked about zen buddhism. That caused me to get up and walk out during his homily. I told him the next week why I did it. Many priests these days have gone renegade and are preaching falsehoods from the altar. The catholic church is in bad shape at the moment because of such priests.

[@22beanbean]

Hey! I didn’t know Jimmy’s in Arkansas.

[@nightyew2160]

Just listen to his voice, and you can tell exactly where he is. 😉

[@lesmen4]

WOW! Good side of Social media brings us together

[@justfromcatholic]

1 Tim. 4:10 says that God is the saviour of all men especially for those who believe. Salvation is not limited to those who believe. As for Catholic's belief on penance Eze. 33:14-16 says when a wicked person turns from sin (repents) and does what is just and right he would live and all his past sins will be forgotten. Doing what is just and right corresponds to penance. To Protestants that will add what Jesus already accomplished on the cross - He already paid the penalty of believers' entire sins imputed on Him through faith alone.

[@alexanderagbuya3944]

History says that Roman Catholicism in 533 AD. Is is therefore 500 years after the Apostolic time. It was the encroachment into the church by King Constantine when he mandated the Roman Empire to the under the Roman religion and the Roman Catholic Church as the dominating religion.

[@simonewilliams7224]

One cannot only be saved by anyone thing but all of Jesus Christ. His teaching, his word for the Bible OT and NT and his traditions given to the Apostles, and the father’s of the Church, God. Don’t leave out the Mass and sacraments.

[@marlenesmall5527]

Show me your faith and I will show you my works and you will see my faith.

[@kinghenry8615]

Jesus and all of the new testament writers never quote from the Apocrypha, not even once.

[@gailmonte2425]

A Catholic Priest told him his deceased father was in heaven because he said the sinners prayer??

[@manuelpompa-u5e]

peter himself said that he was just another elder in the church, and he wasn't even the head of the church in jerusalem. Jesus is the rock of the church, peter is part of the "bedrock" of the church, according to the greek translation.

[@marcuslow1386]

I am glad Frank was so open and generous to hosting Jimmy to discuss this matter regardless of the outcome!

[@karleimers5066]

Especially when he still harbors some negative feelings over his experiences with the Church and her priests. I think Jimmy’s charitable and reasonable answers made him a little uncomfortable with his beliefs about the Church. Well done, Jimmy!

[@jimd4201]

I have attended some terrible Catholic churches. I wish they could be renewed, woken up and filled with the Holy Spirit within a lifetime. Sadly, but thankfully, there may have been a protestant church to feed and nurture good people who need and are seeking God.

[@remsaga]

start of conversion

[@EveryHappening]

@@karleimers5066Yeah… that’s not true at all. I don’t think Frank was uncomfortable for a single moment. Not sure why you could have interpreted it that way.

[@dylandevries8622]

I'm a protestant and a teacher in the Catholic school and I love this!. The biggest problems(but not the only ones) I have with the Catholic church is all the "Catholics" I know who don't seem to care one real iota about their faith and Jesus and the bible...and mass is so so boring.

[@housecry]

If you think the Mass is boring, I would suggest studying different liturgies. After my conversion experience, I looked forward to Mass, but I enjoyed it even more when I understood the order of the liturgy and where it all came from. Once I started learning about the liturgy of the Eucharist and comparing the Novus Ordo to other liturgies, my interest grew.

[@Trumblocity]

I feel like Jimmy called Frank out without calling Frank out.

[@StringofPearls55]

I got that too.

[@jimmydavid1993]

brilliantly

[@gunsgalore7571]

If you mean the part where he mentioned "Lord I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word, and my soul shall be healed," in response to Frank saying he's never heard the Gospel at Mass before, I agree wholeheartedly.

[@Trumblocity]

@@gunsgalore7571 That too, but also people who are ignorant of the teachings can't be held accountable for them. Oops 😬. Frank knows. Jimmy knows Frank knows. Now Frank knows that Jimmy knows he knows. 😃 Point, Jimmy.

[@HumanDignity10]

Yep.

[@timboslice980]

Before i converted to the church, i had studied apologetics for a long time. I had listened to Frank Turek, Michael Brown, Doug Wilson and many others. In all that time, i heard Frank’s complaint about the Catholic church never teaching the gospel. I started attending mass after calling into Catholic answers and talking to Jimmy a couple times. I hear the message of the gospel every single week at mass. Its like Jimmy said, if you dont hear it, you arent listening. Ive never met a former catholic but ive met hundreds and hundreds of protestants who say they were young, wild, restless, and when they started paying attention, their lives changed. Every ex catholic blames the church and not themselves. Whereas every protestant blames themselves rather than the church that formed them. Weird how the catholic church gets no grace like the protestant ones. Ive noticed that trend so mich in apologetics.

[@grond21]

This was the biggest point for me also. I felt like it was a huge Grace that he kindly but clearly called Frank out for this. I hope his heart opens to the one true church and no resentment or obstinacy holds him back

[@jwatson181]

This is not the issue at all. You can't in good faith be a catholic if you deny some of their core beliefs. Sadly, I see Catholics do more apologetics to Christians than unbelievers.

[@Msc762]

We have Daily masses too . ❤

[@johnchung6777]

Tremendous explanation of truth about Catholics who leave the church and blame the church for their departure when it’s in fact that those Catholics who left the church should be really blame themselves,whooo man you’ve hit the nail right on the head with your explanation thank God bless protect and fill you with an abundance of Truth Graces and Virtues Amen 🙏 🐑🕊️🔥✨

[@jawojnicki]

I've heard about grace in homilies from Boston to California and everywhere in between! I can't believe that New Jersey is the only state where the priests never preach about grace. It's impossible.

[@wms72]

Fr Mike Schmitz says he never knew the Eucharist was actually Jesus until he was a teenager. He told his siblings, and they said they knew it from 1st grade.

[@Hawka23]

Sadly, I went to Catholic school from yr 4 until yr 12 (primary/elementary school until graduation). I was not a person of faith (to be fair), but there were still huge gaps. When I started to look into Christianity as an adult, I heard that Christians believed that Jesus was God. I thought, 'That's rubbish. Nobody told me that at school'. I also learned that Catholics believe in the real presence in the Eucharist. Again, I thought 'I think I would have heard about that'. But no. 9 years Catholic Education and I never knew Jesus was God, or that the Eucharist was Jesus. Something is wrong with Catholic Education.

[@TimSpangler-rd6vs]

@@Hawka23 Nobody worshiped the Eucharist in the Bible

[@vinciblegaming6817]

@@TimSpangler-rd6vsI’m curious… where do you expect to see people engaging in ritual worship in the Bible? Because we don’t have any people going to the temple to worship, either. We don’t have a liturgy in the OT or the NT. We only have tangential references to people bring sacrifices to the temple, but no actual outlining of a person committing sin and bringing their sacrifice to the temple. We just have Leviticus that says they should. Exactly where do you think we should have a Christian Leviticus in the NT? Should we squeeze it into disciplining the Corinthians? Or maybe append it to the end of Galatians after Paul finishes telling them to ignore the Judaizers? Maybe somewhere in the logical case for Christ in Romans? Oh… I know… let’s preface the encouragement in the midst of suffering to the Philippians with the rubrics of Christian Ritualized Worship. Well why not it’s own book? Maybe because that’s not what the canon’s goal was - which was to define what READINGS should be done DURING that ritualized worship… and worship rubrics just don’t belong being read during worship. Maybe you misunderstand the purpose of the canon. If you did, you’d understand why it doesn’t include what you are looking for. But the scripture does hint at there being OTHER ways the apostles taught the early Christians… it’s tradition (that the Protestant Bible translations translate to “teachings”).

[@TimSpangler-rd6vs]

@@vinciblegaming6817 The purpose of the canon is to "teach , rebuke, correct, and train in righteousness"

[@vinciblegaming6817]

@@TimSpangler-rd6vs right - not as a rubric for liturgy… however the liturgy ALSO teaches. Paul and Jesus say enough in scripture on the Eucharist to at least come to a conclusion radically different than evangelical teaching and we know it’s part of the early church’s worship due to eye witness accounts of the early church. If you wish to separate from that history, fine. But don’t pretend to be sourcing yourself from the early church when you refuse to find out what the early church was actually doing.

[@antoniopioavallone1137]

I appreciate the fact the Dr. Frank is finally engaging with good and informed catholics like you jimmy.

[@twitherspoon8954]

Should cannibalism and propitiatory human sacrifice be condemned or worshiped?

[@teejah7785]

@@twitherspoon8954 if Christ gave permission to be closer to Him, who are we to question God's words? I am a proud of my faith as a Catholic.

[@twitherspoon8954]

@@teejah7785 _"...who are we to question God's words?"_ But it's not "God's words". The Gospels were all written by men and copied from each other. None of the Gospel authors witnessed Jesus.

[@twitherspoon8954]

@@teejah7785 _"...if Christ gave permission to be closer to Him."_ Wait. Are you disputing that propitiatory human sacrifice is the core tenet of Christianity? You know, that cross thing and John 3:16... Paul created Christianity in 48 AD and this is how he put it: "He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all." (Romans 8:32) "Christ our passover is sacrificed for us." (1 Corinthians 5:7) "God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement." (Romans 3:25) "God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us." (Romans 5:8) "We are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ." (Hebrews 10:10)

[@Kitiwake]

Who scored a major point when he said the protestants who leave the Catholic church blame the Catholic church for their failure.

[@enderwiggen3638]

Just because Frank went to Catholic high school, doesn’t mean he was properly catechized folks. Normally those like Frank didn’t know the actual church and it’s teaching and left for something lighter like protestantism which was easier to get to know.

[@shavaughn1980]

A lot of Catholics who have left the church and become a Protestant we're not taught their faith properly. They came from families who went some mass on Sundays and didn't talk about God any other time.

[@fishermanmike8885]

Interesting to me that he wants to hear more from Catholics about grace. Every Mass at my parish starts with, "Brothers and sisters, as we approach the throne of grace..."

[@alisterrebelo9013]

There's a profound gap in understanding formal and informal ways that grace is imparted. Most of our Protestant friends focus and only consider informal ways to be licit. For example, the most common informal way would be simply asking and receiving grace through private prayer. The Catholic accepts that is possible but also prioritises formal means of grace imparted through physical means such as the Eucharist, the blessing by a clergy member, Baptismal waters, relics of the Saints, holy oil etc.

[@l21n18]

I found it a little amusing he mentioned going to mass on Christmas and not hearing about grace when the reading from the epistle mentions it in the first sentence if it was midnight mass

[@NashonHanselman]

@@alisterrebelo9013 Blessing of the clergy is not scriptural...in other words, since they do NOT actual turn wine into Christ's blood, it's just a religious activity, yet LYING to people that a guy in a silly outfit can turn anything into anything else, especially Christ's blood....Again, NO scripture for transubstantiation...Catholics PROMOTE regular, sinful men..... This guy is LYING about indulgences, research history and you will see MANY examples of priests murdering.fornicating, stealing, as well as regular folks etc. but PAYING a certain amount to pay the sin....This guy is not worth listening too, since the middle ages was FULL of this..This is TOTAL whitewashing of the CORRUPTION of catholic churches for hundreds of years and to today....

[@sharpsbattle]

Frank cracks me up. I grew up protestant, I’m not catholic, but since leaving church, I don’t have a dog in this fight. Jimmy is clearly the deeper thinker and has better answers. Protestants like to define themselves by what they are not. The entire New Testament lays heavy emphasis on how you live, but Frank is nervous when discussing works. I like how kindly Jimmy reassured him that yes, we are justified by faith alone. Great discussion gentlemen.

[@markcoleman8288]

well said