Stripping apart my Porsche 964 engine!

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[@dariososa3799]

Love how involved Steve is in the videos lately. He has come a looooooooooooooooooooooooong way a lot of knowledge he’s gained

[@Notdb1gabe]

Steve the goat

[@kitpotent8987]

Facts

[@subiesteve7770]

I may be biased but we all love Steve

[@GingerKidCustoms]

Big facts

[@Juangorena5]

Scuba Steve!!!

[@nathanleon5039]

This is one of my favorite builds that Jimmy has gotten into. Actually kind of digging how deep you guys are going into detail on the engine stuff and not just glossing over

[@LemonHouseProductions]

The shims in the fan pulley are how you adjust the belt tension. I grew up on aircooled VWs, it’s really cool to see how similar some things on this engine are! You can see how it’s evolved from its original 1930s design.

[@wobblysauce]

The people’s car

[@heffe17]

I was waiting to see him take that apart and scratch his head. Future Jim, shimming is how you adjust belt tension.

[@draggonhedd]

One thing to note, the seal around the engine pan also separates the "hot" and "cold" sides of the cooling system and are critical to the cooling of the engine. All the edges of the pans need to have good seals and good rubber in order for the engine to cool effectively. As others have said, the shims on the 2 piece pulleys are for tensioning the belts. to tighten, you remove shims, to loosen the belt you add more. Oldschool way to do it.

[@negativeindustrial]

I would have guessed backwards. Thanks for that.

[@draggonhedd]

@@negativeindustrial New belts need more shims, as they stretch/wear, you take shims out.

[@negativeindustrial]

@@draggonhedd Totally would have gotten that backwards. Thanks

[@BigKeke]

I definitely think you should paint the bay while the motor is out. You could see a good amount of surface rust starting!

[@lxapproduction]

I don't think it is surface rust. The 964 has some sort of insulation matte to keep noise and heat from the cockpit, and that orange thing covering the top part of the engine bay is the glue with which that insulation matte was held in place.

[@jamali450]

Hope everyone’s having a beautiful Sunday!! Much love to the Oakes fam!

[@jeffyoung9603]

Could be going better ngl

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

Sunday Uploads are the phuckin best!

[@jamali450]

@@jeffyoung9603 you’re the only limit to your day! I hope whatever you’re going though gets better brah be safe have fun!

[@WyattWill]

You definitely want to enjoy it N/A before you decide to turbo it. You'll be surprised with the experience and noises once it's somewhat dialed even with only 270-330hp.

[@foamdataservices]

Turbo 911’s also want to kill you more than NA. It’s all good fun until it pitches you into a tree….

[@negativeindustrial]

330hp is a lot on a light car. My MR2T is only ~2550lbs and it dyno’d at 347WHP/341lb ft and the acceleration is BRUTAL. I had to fit 275mm 40 series drag radials just to tame the launch on the high boost setting.

[@Austinandjules]

The thing that goes around the engine isn’t a weather seal. It directs air flow. With out it they tend to overheat.

[@racingjimmer]

We just call it sheet metal... You're 100% correct though! It must have it to keep the engine cool.

[@jamievandalen]

@@racingjimmer and helps it warming up after cold starts. Must have piece!

[@austinomarino]

As an aircooled Volkswagen owner it is to keep the cooler air on the top of the engine. Cool air gets drawn from above and pushed down across the cylinder jugs cooling the engine. If the tray wasn’t there hot air from the exhaust would rise into the air intake and the engine wouldn’t cool

[@racingjimmer]

Definitely need to replace your fan shroud otherwise the engine will run hot!

[@randominternetuser2888]

Did it have a hole in it? Didn't seem to be bad to me... and the shroud on my 79' is original so I'm not sure he needs to waste that money 🤔 unless he wants to get carbon fiber version which I've seen and are still made.

[@racingjimmer]

@@randominternetuser2888 dude it's got a giant hole in the top of it if you watched the video...

[@randominternetuser2888]

​@@racingjimmerI did not notice 😅 Well luckily there are many options available for replacement. If I remember, the place is called "gt carbon" that does fiberglass and carbon fiber versions. I believe there are other places that do more aftermarket stuff for the more modern cars than my 79'

[@jeraldhite9744]

The shrouding is necessary along with shielding to properly cool the engine. To many remove things they feel are not needed. To find out later it was important.

[@nielsdebakker3283]

@@jeraldhite9744 I am afraid this thing is going to overheat when jimmy puts a turbo on it. You can't simply shove a bigger radiator in it like with a water cooled car.

[@kyleglasgow007]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE KEEP the good Porsche content coming. 99% of it the content out there on 964/993 is "just took it to the shop & it's better now". Thank you for actually showing the whole process. I am very stoked to see all the steps of this.

[@viluizfelicio]

Those "under trays" are all called tins. They are several different pieces and they come on all air cooled VWs. The shims inside the fan pulley is how you tension the belt, the more shims inside the pulley the looser the belt is

[@brokenfingerdesigns]

All the tray stuff is to control airflow for cooling.

[@SKOMPAS]

Porsche purists hate when people delete the power steering, but for anyone who tracks them or drives them hard it’s a must, the front is so light with power steering there is very little feedback, my vote is keep it as it is! Also check the rack it may have been converted to a manual rack from an earlier 911

[@XenonArcher]

if he goes electric power steering, couldnt he turn it off for the track?

[@negativeindustrial]

First mod I did to my 1990 MR2 Turbo (I know, not a Porsche, but the reasoning is the same). It’s fine for daily driving, as well. You just learn to make all steering inputs from 2mph+. No worries.

[@SKOMPAS]

@@XenonArcher very true, yes he could the great thing about electric power steering is you can adjust how much assistance it has too

[@SKOMPAS]

@@negativeindustrial yeah it works okay in a mid engined car because there is very little weight over the front wheels, I used to have a Toyota Yaris SR, it kept throwing power steering belts until I just gave in and drove it with none, it was a real struggle parking, great when you where up to speed though

[@XenonArcher]

@@SKOMPAS yeah I thought you could tune it's assistance level too. Definitely sounds like the better way to go. Would be cheaper and simpler to fix if it happens to break too

[@michaelhattingh285]

The Porsche people going to hate you for taking of the deul distrbuters and changing the original ecu. But i reckon if you sell al those goodies you have enough money for a nice turbo set up with low15psi 550hp. Love the content

[@ATOMIK_DUNKZ]

Wow! I learned so much from the engine tear down. The whole “the people’s car” mentality that was carried by VW, definitely shines on this Porsche engine. So simple, yet functional. The fan and shroud being so multi functional: keeping the air fins cool, alternator placement, and air plenum placement 🤯. Seeing the dual dynamos taken out was so gratifying lol. Looking forward to more engine tear down content on the Porsche 👍🏻

[@cCamCc]

After watching this video I’d rather tear this motor down than my VW 1.8T motor 😂

[@lukelambert4595]

2 things: 1- I love this content. 2- I think it’s been long enough to shine a light on how awesome it is to have spoon on the channel. Don’t change the lineup. You have a perfect thing going.

[@RichDasix]

I agree, but I miss apprentice Tony a bit though.

[@lukelambert4595]

@@RichDasix I do miss his send off’s lol.

[@lxapproduction]

Wow, you guys have my full respect for tearing down a 964 engine without any Porsche-related experience or special tools what so ever. I definitely want to see where this is going, BUT most importantly it is super interesting to see this being taken apart by non-Porsche mechanics. I've send my 964 engine to the specialist because I can't afford to make a mistake on such an expensive engine myself, but I love watching you guys do the job on your own. Props! Keep it up, this series is mega interesting!

[@bend185ont]

Spoon side eyeing Jim when he was talking about the turbo was hilarious

[@FattyAl11]

A lot of stuff on that motor is Magnesium too, not just all aluminum so keep that in mind when cleaning and whatnot

[@pettybird]

The 964 numbers are there because that was the first time those parts were used. You’ll find 930 numbers here and there, and some fasteners and pieces have crazy numbers…I got a couple 959 part numbers for my 944 turbo. Also, remember to buy a new drive belt for the distributor-it’s a common maintenance item that runs between both halves of your distributor.

[@anthonydistefano1496]

The part number system is the same as VW. The first three numbers are the first model that the part was used on. For instance, grab a Corrado specific part and it starts with a 535. The part number system for vw/Porsche makes a ton of sense!!

[@jamievandalen]

much like the air cooled beetles, the tray around the engine actually helps keep the heat where its supposed be. Especially at cold start. Not hot, but it needs to be there to keep temps in the right spot. At least thats what every aircooled nut i know has always said

[@nelsnielsen2701]

That tray around the engine is the cooling baffles to keep the cooling air going through the engine and hot air from revercing up in to the cool air

[@justinfleury8003]

Love Brian so much! His comments are priceless!

[@dailydriven991]

Porsche engineering is next level. A car this old still running and driving mostly fine before the tear down speaks volumes. Even their modern cars are pretty bulletproof despite being complex. Everything just works.

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

I "think" the manifolds and the larger throttle bodies from the higher spec engines are a good upgrade on these. There''s probably OEM options for a fly-by-wire throttle if you wanted to go that route with the Link Ecu.

[@cjsawinski]

I love this vid series because I have a 77 that needs a lot of sorting but don’t have the bank account to pay someone else to do the work. I’m far away from a mechanic, but I can work and know some basics and also I’ve been around Porsche’s my whole life so even not being a mechanic I know what your going to find as your tearing the engine apart. This series is giving me all kinds of inspiration to get to work in my garage… just need a few tools and jack stands to get started!

[@FloatingValves]

Jimmy, never worked on an air cooled p car, but for the air cooled VW’s, the ducting and shielding pieces are called “tins”.

[@erickther3d387]

It’s so funny seeing him and Adam being surrounded by ricans and loving and learning the culture

[@randominternetuser2888]

I assure you, you can change the clutch without removing everything. Just remember that porsche 911's were always designed as race cars by the engineers. That ment the cars need to be fixable on the track and modular in as many way as possible. Congratulations on your awesome 964 and your great content.

[@Bubba_214]

This was great. I admire how willing u are to jump in and completely tear down an engine whose platdorm ur not familiar with. Great job

[@baselabdou]

i just open the door for the delivery guy for the pizza i ordered and i made refresh for the KZbin , your video appeared .... such amazing thing to happen :D

[@Upstate_JDM]

Love this series. 964 is a hero car for me and getting to tear it down vicariously is dope. Thank you homie! Doing the lords work

[@barryhall7]

The undertray is part of the air ducting to force the air through the heads. Loving this series 👍🏻

[@abnertnieves7698]

Great seeing a diferent build on KZbin platforms, showing us that the best learning is just to dive into the project. Cant wait to see the car after the "Oakes" treatment!!

[@IIxICEMANxII]

Go over board m,an I just love watching you guys build and geek out on your stuff love you guys keep it up

[@bustd_gt]

This was cool to see honestly, way more simple than it originally looked, stoked to see you guys get it refreshed and back ripping.

[@dan_2846]

This is something most of us would never get to see if it wasnt for this video, super cool. Porsche had some really good designs, actually looks nice to work on compared to some engines. One suggestion I have, put a bung in the sump for a turbo drain now while you have it apart, you know eventually you'll put a turbo on it so may as well do that step now

[@justinrobinson6675]

The tray and baffling are all there to help force air directly over the cylinder heads for cooling. It's very important that they're in good condition and sealed well

[@deonbenjamin4828]

Jimmy love the Porsche it deserves a link ecu it will clean up the engine nicely too and just give it a nice modern touch. ❤

[@LooseFab]

I just started a small youtube channel, I'd love to be able to do some builds of this caliber someday! loving the vids lately and cant wait to see more porsche progress.

[@mcmuckin]

ok fine ill sub. good luck with the channel

[@mrrob516]

I was sub number 200, I feel special 😂

[@LooseFab]

@@mrrob516 thanks for the support!! I was pretty stoked when I got the notification that I hit that milestone!

[@LeninVera]

Wishing we could get those in Kentucky. Jimmy is getting schooled on the best fruit from PR!!!

[@Idontknowjuju]

Watching these longer videos builds my confidence!

[@robwigglezz944]

Top pulley can be adjusted to tighten the belt with more or less spacers between the 2 halves

[@TheUberdude14]

just about to comment this haha, its the same on the old beetle engines

[@robwigglezz944]

@@TheUberdude14 as they kept on digging in I was like, so it's just a big bug engine haha

[@xXCigarXx]

The porsche content is honestly some of the best content ive seen from your channel,this is so interesting.

[@justinelliott293]

This is my favorite series so far on the channel

[@austinromero7169]

This whole series resonates with me so much being a helicopter mechanic. Adding to that this is definitely a bucket list car! Much love for James and everyone in the shop keep it up! 😂

[@wheels808]

sounds like a cool job, howd u get into it at first?

[@Danger-Dave]

Fun fact: Porsche did design and build an aircraft engine called a PFM 3200 from 85 to 91, derived from the 911 Carrera's 3.2 with an optional turbocharger with fully aerobatic fuel /oil supplies and automatic altitude compensation which netted 241hp from the Garret turbo. they quit supporting it in 2007. OG turbocharged 964 = 355hp @ 5.500 rpm. Definitely time for a re-fresh on the crusty 3.6....I'm loving it!!!

[@davidfrancies8105]

your shrouds also have a little gaskets where they meet up and your goal is keeping it on the motor not blowing out between the tins.

[@simonandtheworld]

Epic, DIY is perfect, like you said, photos and videos are hard to find, so this will be great to use for others with a 3.6! More DIY-esque on this engine!

[@fedwchoung5466]

Oh.. great!!! I can finally most of 964 engine parts... Thank you!

[@changalang760]

Mentioning the 964 part number thing reminded me of the 901 Porsche Peugeot story. Some of the early 911’s still have 901 in the part number.

[@DrewZMan25]

It’s comunicación thang!! I’m glad unity is coming with all 3 of you ❤

[@mej6519]

itbs look sick on a flat 6. plus it cleans up the look of the engine bay.

[@mauricedalaimo2127]

Electric all day, I did the Volvo 1piece power steering pump with reservoir attached in my sr s13 and I love it!!! In the Porsche it's even better because you MUST keep it out of the heat so the frunk is perfect, make sure the main line is AN from Earls 5000psi max (semi truck air line uses this) and the SPECIAL EARLS AN fittings, then just a return AN6 standard line with adapted to barb for the return, and 2 adapters from Porsche rack (metric something with the oring usually TO an6 and an10 for the earls pressure line) on the Volve just give it battery on a 40 Amp circuit breaker and ground and ignition to the ignition in, that's it and It will run at 70% which is plenty BUT with a aftermarket Ecu you can " can bus " the extra wire and most ecu's have built in control which you can tune for low speed 100 % and as you speed up it can ramp down to like 20% over 45mph so you get less pull on the battery/ alternator and you can actually tune the steering wheel FEEL by adjusting the % at certain speeds for better feedback cuz even 70% is more than enough and in a rear engine car it will be way more than needed at speed but silk in the parking lots

[@ericarmijo136]

I love seeing Jimmy play with a Porsche. I have never been a Porsche fan but its cool.

[@tdhk5000]

Grew up watching my uncles wrench on air cooled VWs. I’m loving the content. 🍿

[@StephenDeahl]

You gotta consider getting an aircooled VW beetle if you enjoyed this so much. Simpler, and cheaper with plenty of parts availability!

[@foamdataservices]

And very light plus good for drag racing, he could build one to race LZ’s Datsun. The VW big is the original import drag car in the USA really.

[@zay_zxy]

I've been having a hard time waiting for new vids on this car, its great watching it be ripped apart bc me personally, anything old and german i would never touch mechanically, I def want to see it boosted knowing that the chassis will still feel great.

[@shifty1927]

Just cleaning/freshen up is gonna do wonders to this thing.

[@Justinhomii]

Steve making submarine jokes is wilddd

[@davem8972]

This is my dream build - can’t believe I get to live it early through these vids

[@Iamdaveable]

If you don’t go crazy on your Porsche but go crazy on a 240 or bmw e36 you’ll regret it. You go crazy to make it bullet proof and solid 👍🏾

[@samfletcher4808]

Loving this Porsche content. Its cool seeing it get worked on, not the every day KZbin content car.

[@richardpowell1923]

Thanks guys. I was always worried that these things were to specialist to diy.. This has motivated me to do mine.

[@G_Ozare]

The vibes with the Oakes crew is second to none 😂❤

[@jeffreyang9647]

11:38 thats the tensioner. When you tighten that bolt, it squeezes the pulley and tensioning the belt

[@KTSHDx]

the first time Jimmy doesn't want to go over the top with the build I want him to😂

[@joeym2675]

Glad to see you guys just diving in and learning as ya go!!! Best way to learn! Hands On! Can’t wait to the rest!!

[@derrickmiller6341]

Love seeing the similarities between that engine and the aircraft engines I have tons of experience with. Air cooled stuff is honestly really cool!!

[@TheAlanFish]

REPLACE THE MAIN FAN!!! They metal fatigue and eventually explode. Also worth noting that there is Electic AC conversion available for this car. Eliminates the factory compressor, and works better. Fits in the front fenders.

[@Type_r_jacob]

I like your thinking jimmy, build the car the way you want it

[@ForgedEggs]

Brian's my favorite character on the Oakes Family Show.

[@Scatology900]

Really great project to follow! And Steve is soooo cool, I wish I had a friend like him, haha he's so chill.

[@RazzJones]

Ditch the distributors, use smart coils, stand alone, use power steering auxiliary for the AC and put power steering up front👍🏻

[@allanjensen6199]

Go for oem power steering👍🏻 That metal trey, around the engine, needs to be there, and make sure that the rubber seal is good. It will make your engine happy, an not overheating.

[@cjsawinski]

I’ve got a metzger (probs spelled that wrong) lying in storage from a 996 GT3 cup car…. Now that thing is sweet… I gotta inventory it and part it out as I have no need for water cooled and need funds for my 77 project… Sorry for all the comments, believe it or not there’s not good modern YT stuff about Porsches really and these vids are really getting me!

[@williamhurst7390]

The shroud as you call it is part of the cooling to direct air the the head

[@rogermyhre653]

I have ben through this and it brings back good memories! Best mod I did In the rebuild was def. Single mass rs clutch and flywheel. And a swan neck + cat bypass! The engine is so good and I think you will enjoy it without a turbo , just something special going gear on gear and not doing Lightning speeds that is sooo great! Cant wait for more! Realy good episode

[@armandocastillo3814]

I feel like jimmy has a bunch of cars that are either Drift cars, drift daily cars, or drift/show cars, it would be cool to see him Do a full blown show car build and the Porsche would be perfect

[@jasonboatner825]

Actually loving this content btw. As for standalone you have the best access to all the ingredients to do so plus all the benefits of knowing how to diagnose issues when they happen. I kinda feel it’s a no brainer since you have everything out anyway. Can’t wait to see its transformation

[@jasonsullivan324]

Just a tip when you put the trans back on the the engine tape the fork to the back of the engine straight up so it doesn't spin bolt the trans on remove the tape install fork rod and done

[@MikeOrkid]

Busch's Aluminum Wash for the jugs. It'll clean and remove the oxidation with no elbow grease.

[@coreywilson3526]

Love the camera pan when stevie says "submarinie-ish" 😂

[@basberend]

parts are so easy to get here in the netherlands/europe and not that expensive. just search/buy in Europe. most shops ship abroad. > great car > great content > good luck with the build

[@mh-fi6pq]

Awesome! Wish you much fun with the Porsche. Very nice to see the disassembly too

[@josephsamsor1698]

Couldn’t a power steering system go in the cavity where the front diff and axles were? Would be cool to keep it looking stock in the frunk.

[@tripwire3992]

Jimmy be like: "ah while im halfway through may as well stick a forged internal kit on while im there"

[@weseethetruth158]

That seal is not for weather resistance its actually for engine cooling. Make sure you put back all the shrouds or it will not cool properly. Also removing the power steering pump from the rear of the head can cause some dampening issues best to replace with an OEM Porsche power steering pump. Btw welcome to the original modular systems which are OG air cooled VW and Porsche. They're honestly probably some of the best engineering ever created...

[@robertgruen2088]

Replace the alternator brushes while it's out. and replace the rubber on the fuel lines too. I took mine to a pneumatic shop and they clamped on new rubber for $50, vs new from Porsche for over $300.

[@jelledevries2280]

Jimmy the metal shroud around the engine is not there to make it waterproof. It’s part of the cooling system, it is a barrier between the “cold” side above where the fan puls from, And the hot side the air is pushed. It’s a big part of the air cooling. Also that engine is designed to run with the twin spark design, don’t change that or you will write that engine off quick

[@tgdojo]

Great content. Nice to see you guys dive into the unknown and learn as you go.

[@austinrode3974]

Smart coil, stand alone with cams would be sick also if you add the light flywheel should be super fun

[@diiviinemedia]

This was soooooo satisfying to watch 🥵 I can’t wait for this one!

[@IDlikeanEvo]

Can't wait for the upcoming video on that thing !

[@kofahl1]

Had to change my dad’s VW bus fan pulley. The shims that came off are to tension the belt. You may not be able to use the same amount that came off when you go to put a fresh belt on.

[@dapperdanbuilds]

Seeing Steve with tools in his hands is great!

[@calmdudethisisindonesian]

Wild engine but spoon always and jimmy always knock it down apart 🔥🔥🔥 Send love from indonesian 🇮🇩

[@evoTimer]

Retorque the jugs if you are removing the valve covers. Air cooled engines blead compression between the block and jugs after x amount of miles and from overheating.

[@zukgod]

Please keep making these Porsche videos, these are getting me so excited to start on my 911 build. The more in depth the better.