The Forgotten “Legal High” Crisis that Ruined Britain

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Today we explore the legal high crisis that swept across Britain during the 2000's to mid 2010's, through online stores and even high street retailers. We analysis the effects this had on British culture and the authorities response to the crisis.
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[@Ahmedhassan.]

no, you would have to pay me

[@RYANLEWIS-pd7zs]

Do you smoke spice?

[@TacomaParkour]

I'll pass on the waiting simulator

[@thisusernameisalreadytaken6764]

aaaaaand sorry but im not gonna even press play on this video when the first thing I see is how youre peddling raid enjoy the money I guess when you dont have integrity

[@christopher9727]

. Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@benwoodbridge4967]

I remember a documentary where a guy was saying he'd been a heroin addict for years but hit a point where he realized he hadn't even touched it in weeks. He was waking up sick for the spice instead and had completely forgotten about heroin. As someone who was addicted to opiates for a couple of decades that has always stuck with me. The chemicals used to make "synthetic cannabis" are so addictive and toxic they can make a heroin addict switch over without even realizing. Thankfully I only ever had it a few times. I had mates hooked on it and it scared the shit out of me. I remember smoking it in my bathroom one day and I was immediately transported to this prison cell. I thought I was in this cell all afternoon until someone came and just opened the door. Good times.

[@intellectually_lazy]

some drugs will take your last $5. shom'll take your last 35 cents

[@NYHeeb]

A real opiate addict here and that's bullshit. Complete different receptors in brain. The dope sickness won't be helped by spice. Opiate withdrawal only goes away with opiates or synthetic like Suboxone, Methadone.

[@Bigzzeus]

Was a Manchester spice documentary i remember it

[@christopher9727]

... Jesus Christ saves He had mercy on me he can save all who all seek him today He made away through calvery repent of all sins today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit can give you peace purpose and joy and his will today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@highbread817]

They are, my sister used heroin and opiates for many years. But the one thing that she couldn't quit for the longest was the k2/ spice (which was illegal by then). It's so addictive and destroys any chance of being productive (i.e. earning money and keeping a decent living) She's doing much better now AFAIK rn

[@Searly255]

buds, leaves, poppys and mushrooms, humans have used and got used to them for thousands of years. I remember being told as a teenager that if you do choose to get high, make sure it came from the ground first, because if you screw up, the docs will know what to do

[@texanarchy666]

@@taqiyyaconcarne6908why not? lemme guess you drink caffeine and think weed is terrible?

[@SeriousJB]

I couldnt agree with you more. Ive always strayed away from all the "unnatural things". But if you dont give two fucks about your own life and just want the best high possible to escape your problems I guess you dont care about all that, so you just take anything. Legalizing the natural things and offering actual help to addicts seems like the best way to go. Humans will always look for a good way to relax, ban every drug in the world and we'll start sniffing glue... oh wait we already do that

[@nathangerrard9792]

that was the problem all these 'legal' highs are lab made but if you go and pick a mushroom that grows naturally they can arrest you and confiscate it

[@nathangerrard9792]

@@SeriousJB i think it depends on the product as well though I love stuff like shatter and crumble which has obviously been altered but when you understand the process you are just removing the potentially carcinogenic material and what you are actually consuming is just a fraction of the original plant

[@SeriousJB]

@@nathangerrard9792 I understand what youre saying but just the sheer thought of it being something that has been played around with which makes it unnatural puts me off. I always just think to myself there are things like weed and shrooms which have varieties in itself already, why go the extra mile?

[@SianaGearz]

At some point it just makes sense to legalise classic molly speed and acid and make them available OTC in pharmaceutical quality. Because while not what one might describe as healthy, these are at least relatively safe. Because holy shit i have seen stuff go down on research chemicals and various other things.

[@daviddavid2890]

A boy who I was in high school with died from inhaling butane gas. He never took any other drugs. 3 other classmates died from alcohol, 1 choked in his sleep, 1 got lost in the forest and froze to death, the other 1 died of alcohol poisoning Between school, college, and work colleagues, I probably know of well over 100 people who used illegal drugs fairly regularly. None of them are dead Bizarrely I know very few people who were into the legal highs

[@GeXonDeXOfficial]

Shrooms reset me completely. All addictions was gone . And yet ..... its illegal as f . Sure 😂

[@fatherofdragons4880]

From opiates?

[@Nikitaandmichael2019]

There not illegal in England but there illegal to brew or prepare there grey area abit like steroids

[@Dehydratedpencil]

​@@Nikitaandmichael2019Illegal to harvest, grow, own, buy and sell, theyre very illegal though. Unless you consume the shroom straight out of the ground

[@Nikitaandmichael2019]

@@Dehydratedpencil exactly my point not illegal to own but to brew our prepare. I hate them I had mushroom tea and thought nothings happening half an hour to hour later the walls started breathing and I felt like the light in the room was beaming me up it was horrible. OMG lsd was even more intense. You don’t need to harvest just stay up on speed all night going to farms picking them out of cows sxxt and stuff and because they look so close and much like poisonous ones you can distinguish between them by there parasol shape and nipple like design on the top until you know what your looking for don’t bother infact unless your a strong person with a strong mind and in good company don’t bother! Funny thing is after these experiences (trips as you may call them ) the end is mild and after you feel like a different person reborn it’s liberating experience but terrifying when you realise that you can’t stop it and it’s getting more intense. I had 3 red rockets and 2 tribal double strength the first time I did acid (lsd) it was so strong I felt like my head was flying and I could fly across the quarries where at which was empty my friend who’s not here anymore ( Gary God bless your soul) was a lot worse than me so I looked after him which was hard funniest bit was because we thought they where fake had no exp we where outside a window and could feel something like vibrations it took us hours of dancing to realise it was music The spice girls 😂😂😂

[@arthurdurham]

I remember when spice was huge and I had friends who'd literally black out from using it. It just shows how idiotic it is that weed is still so wildly illegal when it's the safest option. Because people will always find ways to do drugs; even to their own detriment and harm. Drugs won the war on drugs.

[@dontdissdave]

My local head shop was giving away free samples of spice at the time. It's the only time I've tried it, it was horrible.

[@nathangerrard9792]

it's crazy how it was marketed as synthetic weed it was nothing like being stoned

[@StoicStolas]

I had the damn near trip sit a few people who did this shit in college. One of them “lost their nose”, one saw trolls breaking through the walls, and one just cried…WILD 😹

[@user-zt8zi8we3r]

People will always find ways to murder so should we legalize murder as well?

[@zulubeatz1]

'It's not a war because wars end..'

[@speedking439]

Having been in a UK detox unit twice several years ago i can tell you that people coming off Spice/RCs make Heroin etc look like a walk in the park. Because there was no known way to help people withdraw they had to go cold turkey and it was not nice to see let alone what pain the spice users were in. But the people who go through the worst withdrawl i have ever seen are from the most acceptable legal high there is...Alcohol, they are so fucked physically and mentally and rarely young, mums, dads, grandparents, retired, company directors, solicitors, nurses anyone and everyone who thought it would never happen to them and their lives are just as shattered as the homeless spice addict they've seen on TV and looked down their nose at. Being in detox is a humbling and equalising experience.

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

I've been through the worst of spice withdrawal, it was fucking awful. It doesn't kill you like Alcohol withdrawal can though. The two worst parts of spice withdrawal is that you don't sleep for 3-4 days and your bones feel like they're freezing, no matter how warm you make yourself.

[@drek9k2]

Truth. I got addicted to T, caffeine, nicotine, alcohol. I had to detox with a bunch of alcobydlo and junkies. That shoul;d've been the strongest wakeup call when all me roommates where heroin addicits or for alcohol, literally ALL of them except this one guy who's there for coke. Every single other one of us, alcohol or heroin. Booze is one of the spookiest drugs out there, sadly the one I crave the most too. Nicotine took me decades to leave it. I never ran up coke oxy well adderall I was strung on in school but Ritalin and Adderall weren't that addictive, i finally stopped it and haven't thought about it or coke or anything else much. But T, liqour, and smoking were hardcore addictions.

[@speedking439]

@@drek9k2 Never heard of Caffeine or Tea as a treatable addiction. It took me 41 years to kick my amphetamine sulphate problem which i did by myself (detox was a complete waste of time)

[@kingelvis]

@speedking439 You are telling the truth! The Alcoholics come in on the verge of death. No other substance comes close. What I noticed is that they did improve very quickly, almost 2 or 3 days and they are walking, eating etc. The Heroin addicts unfortunately suffer 3 to 4 weeks.

[@kingelvis]

I have been rehab 3 times. The first time the other patients were a mix of people suffering from a range of substances . I went in after Covid and the demographics completely changed. Most were in for booze, but there were alot of younger kids in for coke, Ketamine, weed (yes weed!), benzos, and other shit they got from the dark web.

[@robertpamela4316]

Psychedelics saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety, smoking, and illicit pills addiction. Imagine carving heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not, in a couple of years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.

[@JohannaKoch-dh7vt]

Psilocybin is legal in some states and mushroom therapy is allowed in many states as a legitimate medical treatment. So I believe soon it'll be globally used as a treatment for anxiety, depression, and more.

[@NovakBogoslav]

To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.

[@Francesca-hm1yb]

Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in New Zealand. Really need!

[@LeviAmmann]

Yes, Sporeville. I had the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.

[@CalistaCarvalho]

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.

[@Kenzthekid645]

My moms a probation officer for the state of Colorado here in the US. She told me that within the last ten years, there’s been a shift in the legal system to where they’re trying to keep drug offenders out of jails and prisons so she’s been taking on more cases.

[@Philip_Taylor]

I used to work in a shelter for homeless men, back when legal highs were still legal. I can vividly remember the smell because it burns your nose if you're anywhere near it. It's like if you took superglue and set it on fire, and mixed that with tobacco smoke, I would describe it as an evil smell if such a thing exists. Anyway, I asked one of the lads in there, off the record, "Why don't you smoke [leaves] if you really need to be high?" and he just laughed and said, "Nah mate that wouldn't even touch me..." which is when I realised how strong this stuff is. Then I saw the results of it over time -- people jumping out of windows, having seizures, turning into violent sub-animal creatures -- and we just had to stop them smoking it indoors, there was no way we could ban the use because it was being sold in local corner shops at the time.

[@RYANLEWIS-pd7zs]

The seizures are serious iv'e witnessed two.

[@ralexanderallen]

I've met lots of longtime prison and shelter K2 users. The things it does to their brains, turned them into permanent zombies with impaired cognitive functions. Which is to say they're all now permanently crazy, and not in a good way. And I'm sure there isn't even research into the long term effects of K2 and such because such research is probably banned... the whole thing is fkd

[@nathangerrard9792]

they literally look people on smack they fall asleep standing up and stuff

[@mydogslikeboiledeggs7094]

​@@nathangerrard9792Psh, I fall asleep standing up at work at least once a week bcuz it's boring.

[@Sephh28695]

so thats what happened to me :O i should have read your comment before i sent mine lol@@RYANLEWIS-pd7zs no wonder MY college tutor was freaked out

[@MrScoffins]

I went through a 3 year period where I was addicted to Magic Dragon. Coming off that stuff was a nightmare, but haven't touched it for over ten years. I don't even smoke anymore.

[@cjckdbdhx]

Keep it up son 💪💪

[@Ellis_B]

Good work soldier

[@SocialShortcuts]

How was it more difficult to come off of in comparison to other drugs?

[@MrScoffins]

@@SocialShortcuts Well the only other drug I've taken long-term is the green stuff so I might not be the best person to ask. But whereas the green stuff is something you can enjoy at your own leisure, Magic Dragon (smokable-spice) basically takes over your life. I could function mostly normally, I wasn't a zombie or anything. But it's always in your mind, wanting to smoke it, wondering when your next smoke will be, impossible to relax or enjoy life without it. Any spare money I had would be spent on the stuff. I know there are worse drugs out there which do a lot more harm, but in my own personal experiences, the addiction I had to this stuff was all-consuming. At the time, it was more important than food, socializing, being healthy, etc. Everything else took a back seat. Coming off it was horrible because you feel like nothing will cheer you up and you can't relax. Every spare moment you get to chill out, you'd be thinking about it and wishing you could make a rollup. I originally tried it because I wanted to quit the green stuff, turned out to be a lot worse. I definitely quit the green stuff because it just didn't have any affect on me while I was on spice and was a lot more expensive. After a few years I was wishing I could go back to the green stuff instead lol. Eventually did after the shops and websites I used got shut down. In hindsight I am very grateful for the persistence of law enforcement in shutting these places down because it helped me quit, but at the time I was furious. I quit smoking completely on 10th June last year (thanks for vapes) and haven't touched the green stuff or tobacco since. I've dropped my nicotine intake right down too, so hopefully one day I won't be dependent on anything at all.

[@drek9k2]

You know there's some things I simply never mentioned online because I didn't want people turned on to them, it spooks me Tia is going on shelves evidently. I was hooked on that shit one winter about ten years ago and it was literally like coming off heroin and you get addicted fast. I'm not really one for drug wars, but I don't support T being on store shelves. I mean it's literally better than fentanyl so there's that, at least it won't kill people much but it lasts only 2 hours and then you're hooked.

[@aaabbb-ve9po]

the best way to describe a spice “high” is that it feels like you’ve been poisoned. the fact that it has such high addiction rates completely blows my mind.

[@milfmondayz7255]

Yea dude same here like all I’ve heard is bad experiences on k2…. How do ppl get hooked ….?. Like I wouldn’t even try spice kuz I wouldn’t even take the chance of having a horrid high. I’ll smoke my weed for now lol

[@Cotillion308]

I mean when spice first came out it wasnt so bad. Made you giggle a lot. But it kept getting banned and changed with each change making it worse.

[@atlasnetwork7855]

I tried it once because everyone was saying it was good etc, and since it was legal i gave it a try. Honestly i didn't think much of it. I ended up throwing it away. It felt like really dirty tobacco.

[@madhatterentmt6146]

@@Cotillion308 yea og mr happy in the states was a great time lol but i always preferred weed remember one time when i was 19 i smoked some with a group of friends for the first time in years and holy shit we all hallucinated it was terrible we threw the bag away and of course the one tweaker friend grabbed it and kept it

[@hiiipowerbass2337]

It CAN feel like you've been poisoned. It also CAN feel like a mix of a whippet, Ketamine, and Canabis. I smoked over 12g a day for over a year. I've seen every side of spice there is, it's the most addictive drug of done, and i was doing 120mg oxygen at one point. The point as he explained in the video is there is no "spice" the exact chemical formula, who you are, your tolerance, environment, and many more factors contribute to the experience. The addiction isn't surprising at all.

[@chrisstewart750]

The irony of Huw Edwards tut tutting about drugs in this vid makes me howl 😂

[@sectorseven07]

I was addicted to spice when I got back from Afghanistan in the US Army. It absolutely ravaged my entire unit. We were spending thousands of dollars a month on it. It was more addictive than most hard drugs. It caused irreparable damage to most of us including brain bleeds, pneumonia, heart issues, etc. It also caused extreme weight loss. I weighed almost 100 lbs less then than I do now from the years of 2010 to 2012.

[@ThatGuy-mj6jm]

Thankyou for everything you did. I don't care if you had to do something fucked up. You were there, you cared enough to put yourself on the line for others, and I respect the hell out of you for doing it. I hope you're doing well these days

[@NeonValleys]

What kind of spice were u taking? That doesn't aound like just spice bro like laced with some kinda synthetic opiate or amphet or something, spice shouldn't cause weight loss

[@sectorseven07]

@@NeonValleys Oh spice definitely causes weight loss. We primarily smoked stuff with JWH 018. It's highly addictive and highly damaging. I don't remember the brand names since it was 2011

[@soom878]

yes exactly in my memory you were eating like crazy, i ate to the point where i puked, although im not sure if we in germany had the same spice like they in britain. (i smoked bonzai winter and summer boost, jamaican gold extreme and crazy monkey, definetly fucked up your head, although i never experienced any psychotic moments)

[@anon2427]

@@sectorseven07JWH is some addictive shit, I met spice heads in rehab who were just as bad as the crackheads

[@adexterwolfe]

"Known as Meow Meow as literally no one other than journalists" !!!!!!!! The most truthful thing you have ever said ahahahahahaha

[@hitemhard1991]

had go get my phone to reply It's called MethaDRONE (Not methadone) is also called Mkat, Meow-meow,drone and others. it's been called Meow-meow so you need to get clued up before commenting. there was a place in Hounslow called "M-Delivery' I got 10 grams for 80 and made an absolute killing on it. .7 for 15 - gram for 20 I only sold it cause it was legal and police had to give it back.

[@intellectually_lazy]

kids may say stuff like, man, i'm cheesing my brains out, or hey, guys, wanna go cheese?

[@dickterpene8697]

swingin on the flippety flop

[@rosieroo538]

Never forget MXE which journalists referred to as "roflcopter".

[@Dwightpower42]

M-cat/ plant flood took over our town for a few years. I’d say 3 out of every 4 young adults were on the stuff at one point. We used to call it “fert” as in “fertiliser”. Me and my friends were seriously addicted to it at one point, the thought of going on a night out without at least in a gram in our pockets used to terrify us. And every night out resulted in an after party where we’d sit up sniffing until 10AM. I sometimes shudder thinking back to it.

[@shoblette961]

Yeah that time was rough. Mcat turned friends into fiends. I clearly remember one time saying to everyone i felt like "I needed another line to be sociable!" As I went to do so, the words rang in my head... and the idea of needing a substance to be sociable disgusted me. I never touched it again after that, but many of my friends kept it up. One by one, they all had their own negative experiences with the substance, either through addiction or by taking too much and having bouts of stimulant psychosis. I'm glad I ducked out early.

[@oddcharacter6891]

Before, it was illegal. There was a club in my hometown where you could literally buy bags of MCAT from behind the bar! We used to stay up for days on end talking shit and doing massive lines of it. Crazy.

[@danieltrueman6992]

MCAT was a literal plague in South Yorkshire. I remember people eating whole grams of spoons and being totally fucking destroyed. They would offer it to me and be offended when I said no. So many people I know who smashed that shit are starting to have health consequences now in their early 30s.

[@TheCainabis]

You could literally tell who had been on the old M-CAT they’d absolutely stink like cat piss for days it was horrid

[@DannySouthendUnited]

Stinking of cat piss

[@TheCainabis]

I remember legal highs, used to call the legal high guy up and he’d meet you anywhere, open up his boot and you’d have a right pick! Used to go for this stuff called magic, it was literally like sniffing uncut coke and the high being exactly the same, and at a £15 a gram 😂

[@Nikitaandmichael2019]

It was off the internet mate real cheap I could get 1000 pellets of flubromazepam for 40£ but my fav was 3FPM IV the rush was incredible but it burned like hell being over 99% pure

[@Pushing_the_cathinone_limits_]

Did you ever try 4fa ? Shit was magical​@@Nikitaandmichael2019

[@chrislaing1395]

@@Nikitaandmichael2019 Oldskool nice shiny 3-FPM. Cleanest stim I ever did :)

[@Nikitaandmichael2019]

@@chrislaing1395 I got hooked on it IV and it was amazing for focus it’s not a new drug and it’s really called pal 593. They never used it for anything but like you said it was so clean and not nasty after because amphetamines IV make you heart race and go mad it was like strong speed without the side effects.

[@ace-kz9zd]

As a teen we managed to buy this shit. The local smoke shop would just sell it to us no questions asked. I had the absolute worst trip of my life on a type called stinger. Thought i had died and gone to hell and hell was an infinite hallway i was falling down forever. From my friends perspective i curled up in a ball in the corner and screamed bloody murder and cried for half an hour. We all quit immediately after that incident

[@feldgraufox4927]

I was in the beginning of my pothead phase, at a party in the woods I smoked some spice some guys I knew had called armageddon or annihilation or something like that. Sat on a log perfectly still, unable to move but felt like I was sat there swinging forwards and backwards for what felt like hours. Horrible shit 😂 this was around 2012 or so, I feel like spice only got worse after that. I know a few of my friends had seizures and stuff.

[@ctb1977]

I tried Spice from a reputable head shop in my town, in around 2009/2010. It didn't do anything, we shared a zoot, then went "meh" and never bought it again. Seeing the effects it has on people now, it's definitely a different substance compared to 10-15 yrs ago

[@hiiipowerbass2337]

Lol yall quit? This would've been on of the good night's in my year and change hanging out with spice heads

[@Simplebutsandy]

In university I had a friend with a dodgy heart. She was in and out of hospital all the time because of it. Despite having a medical history as long as a phonebook, every time she went in with a heart issue they assumed it was from a "legal high" and wouldn't believe otherwise.

[@astroboirap]

lmao

[@brendanm6921]

​@@astroboirapwhat's funny about that?

[@PartyhatRS]

@@brendanm6921 Cuz the health care system is a joke. If they had no proof, why would they assume it was from a supposed "legal high" ? Also there's tons of different legal highs from research benzos like etizolam to research stimulants like 3-FMA to research opiates like 2-map-237. Not just fake marijuana.

[@astroboirap]

@@brendanm6921 the doctor being a little silly goose

[@intellectually_lazy]

that's in uk? i assume that because you didn't use an article before university or just say in college, that's like high school there, right? guessing your friend was either part of a marginalized group, which i suppose may include scottish or irish there, or at least poor marked by speech, or what? you all have single payer insurance there? must be nice

[@ProfessorPesca]

One study that I came across during my research suggests that in the UK, the average person’s Shatner’s Bassoon has increased in size fourfold in the last 15 years. How much of this is down to spice?

[@M05tly]

Lol, probably more to do with cake.

[@TheWoodTink]

Of their nut on Russel Dust and Clarkycat. Jessop jessop jessop

[@ChubbyChecker182]

Bernard Manning tried to warn ya

[@daviddavid2890]

A bad case of Czech neck

[@AkiraHDR50]

Where can I get some Jessop Jessop Jessop Jessop?

[@anti-emo4721]

I had a childhood friend who used these drugs, he became a schizophrenic, basically! He still can work a manual labor type job, but when you talk to him, there's no one there. 😔

[@bujfvjg7222]

I had a childhood friend who became schizophrenic without drugs. Should i blame breastfeeding, water? Maybe it was not cutting his toenails?

[@Murderdogs]

@@bujfvjg7222 Nobody asked so keep your vile flippant comments to yourself.

[@anti-emo4721]

@@bujfvjg7222 I don't know, why are you trying to defend these drugs? People used to have epileptic seizures from them. Comparing this to breastfeeding is insane!

[@gcolombelli]

​@@bujfvjg7222cannabinoid use early in life is positively correlated to development of schizophrenia later, you know... Just because smoking cigarettes are neither guaranteed nor necessary to give you lung cancer, it doesn't mean it's "neutral" and unrelated.

[@zahoin8186]

Maybe you just make him uncomfortable..

[@gump5ter01]

I won’t lie. Late 90s and early 2000s where when I was coming of age. Between 18 and like 25 I was out on it all the time and ecstasy was rife. It was as good as it can get too. Nothing today compares to it and I’m glad I was there to experience it. I don’t take drugs or even drink alcohol now but that time was the golden time for clubbing and free love etc. loved it.

[@funnyyellowdog8833]

@gump5ter01 MDMA is better, cheaper and easier to get than ever before, at least in Europe

[@CJ-fs1zr]

We Gen Z have the best research chemicals today

[@kennethleitch8709]

MDMA pills are stronger than ever.

[@rosemary5005]

Those were the times. And the music! Whoa 😌 And they won't return, so we better just hold on to the memories and be happy to have experienced it ❤️

[@rosemary5005]

​@@CJ-fs1zrsomehow I doubt it...

[@Lunatix246]

The mephedrone and methylone period was insane. Everyone was on it. Someone I knew had a bucket full of the stuff. The smell of it used to come out through your skin. The streets, clubs, pubs, shops and workplaces were absolutely stinking of it.

[@ApolloCGP]

Cat piss, I don't think I will ever forget the smell of it on the bedsheets the night after, I've never done it but had friends that did and the smell just coming from their sweat was insane I had to open all the windows and wipe down anything they touched

[@torba23]

honestly I don't get why people loved it so much, for me the high wasn't that great and the hangover was awful.

[@kozigotbeatz1240]

Even school stank of it back then 😂

[@yaheardme111]

Had tons of that crap pass in front of me.

[@cronut7113]

30p a gram and extraordinarily strong and moreish. I was an addict ordering tonnes off the internet, MPA MDAI 4mmc 3,4mec I did them all. 7 years clean now on drugs and alcohol. Edit: on the first picture, gogaine&china white were two I did a lot of when I didnt have my own stuff and went to a head shop.

[@jaymantisgaming]

Parts of me miss those days, but I'd probably be dead now if it had continued. As an alcoholic I was drawn to the benzidiazepine type chemicals, they mimic'd the effects of Valium. The problem was they;d often take about 2-3 hours to take effect, so you take more thinking it's not working. next thing you know, you wake up in an empty bath the next day, NO memory whatsoever and a totally empty bag. 20-30 pills GONE and no memory. blacking out and scoffing your entire stash was quite common. Looking back, I was glad i used them alone. I could easily see people waking up with a dead prostitute in their bed or something. No idea how i survived. 2 years sober from drink/drugs now.

[@Greentrees60]

Congratulations on staying clean and sober

[@cronut7113]

Did you ever try 2methyl,2 butanol? It was an alcohol analogue, I was sent a sample of it, and it blew my head off.

[@badger297]

Bro this was incredibly interesting & well done.

[@backupaccount2394]

Age 15 i smoked spice quite a bit. We spoke about it like ‘that legal version of weed that’s proper strong’ without realising it was more like crack. One time after 3,2,1’ing a zoot of it, I blacked out, flopped on a car bonnet and chipped my tooth and tore my gum. I just remember my bro pulling me up, and my other bro laughing hysterical (he was mad high as well), and I was just so confused with blood pouring out my face. And across the road was a load of shocked mothers picking up their daughters from a gymnastics class. It was broad daylight and we was in school uniform. I still finished the gram that weekend despite the event

[@MnemonicHeadTrip]

Synthetic cannabinoids are definitely not as dangerous as people would have you believe. The main issue with them was that they were often sold without much info on the potency or even the type of compound that it contained, so it's not surprising bad experiences were common. If you were to consume most synthetic cannabinoids in a controlled and appropriate dosage they would not pose much harm at all and would even be enjoyable, you've got to remember that they're just extremely potent cb1 receptor aganists

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

Sweetleaf on a Tuesday could be fun. then Wednesdays Sweetleaf would put you in a comatose state and living 6 months in a 5 minute dream

[@benwoodbridge4967]

@@NidokingOtsutsuki "living six months in a five minute dream" Nicely put, and so true.

[@backupaccount2394]

@@NidokingOtsutsuki 😂 it was really the shortest high of any drug. Yet at times it felt like an eternity

[@GlenCooper-sj4lh]

Well done!

[@alfonzo9289]

When i was 17 during this time. I never smoked anything in my life. But a friend talked me into trying K2 cause it was "legal". the terrible effects of what happened after trying K2 kept me from ever trying any drugs for the rest of my life.

[@Appasplug]

Hear me out, you and some ayahuasca would be best friends

[@oxydayz]

can't blame you, i can't imagine the terror of a strong hit of k2 for someone who hasn't even touched weed lmao. when i hit a fully charged cart of thc too hard once, felt like i was dying bruh i started immediately sweating, just the magnitude of that compared to what i've seen k2 to do people makes it almost unfathomable to me

[@LukeyBoy82]

lol wimp

[@intellectually_lazy]

@@Appasplug idk, i do all sorts of drugs, but it kinda sounds like if you do dmt you get molested by aliens

[@Ellis_B]

​@@Appaspluglol

[@EJWEST333]

Absolutely brilliant video mate

[@easy.pete.wants.dynamite]

One of the most interesting videos I have ever watched on youtube. Great job bro

[@NeurosenkavalierEmilSinclair]

Even around 2011-14 it was a huge thing in germany. I'm from a small village out in the country and police was controlling the shit out of young people. So a lot of them switched from weed to "spice" - herbs sprayed with artificial can cannabiods. People could smoke it, get totally fucked up and drive two hours later without fear of losing your drivers licence and future. Problem was: This "red lava" or "yellow monkey" shit was russian roulette with joints/bongs. Many friends of mine had horrible and dangerous experiences on that stuff and it's pure luck, that nobody died. Sometimes they passed out or couldn't move; one spliff in a pool or lake and you're gone.

[@Treasurentreats]

I had great experiences, no harm done and I miss them.

[@adrianseanheidmann4559]

" I'm from a small village out in the country and police was controlling the shit out of young people." Southern Germany?

[@mb2776]

yep, I remember it as well, also from germany. Weed wasn't that hard to get even around the 2000's but it was always stress with the police, even in bigger cities. A friend of mine used spice for some time but I always found it super strange that this stuff was legal, I didn't tried it. Now, more than 10 years after, I'm glad of my decision

[@MrSpirit99]

Well at least that problem got solved. Bubatz legal!

[@goomaboi]

lmao my brother and I were visiting Poland, coming from Vancouver. We smoked a lot being in Canada. We didn't try getting bud in Poland for obvious reasons, but, we had a lay over in Frankfurt. We hadn't smoked in 14 days exactly (we were smoking probably a 1/8th a day), ended up at a skatepark not far from the train station - and boom we had what looked like reggie/brick weed. We smoked half a joint on our balcony incase our tolerance was a bit off - instead we both ended up with extremely high heart rates, irrational paranoia (that we were aware of, almost like a CNS stimulant) and we flushed the rest. We both thought we were going to be arrested or that we had the strongest bud known to man (lol). Got back to Canada, scared as all hell to smoke. Smoked a bowl and nothing was wrong.

[@dustyyshellz1320]

K2 is one of the scariest and worst highs I’ve ever had. Seen tons completely collapse too and fall like a ton of bricks wherever they happened to be and have seizures

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

One dude id smoke it with had a seizure. I don't know what the FUCK he saw while out, but when he came-to we had to hold him to stop him jumping from the balcony. Shouting "I INEED TO DIE. I NEED TO DIE".

[@Ratking_Actual]

I'd go for a run like you said, but the wind would smoke more of my joint than I would and I'd have to keep relighting it.

[@jaargent]

Best vdeo I've seen on YT on NPS, many thanks!

[@TheChronicYT]

I was hooked on mcat for 2/3 years from 2008. Some crazy times. It fucked alot of people up including me. We all thought it was harmless at first because it was legal but literally turned us into junkies without even realising. Quite scary looking back

[@JayboTheHood]

Me too mate.

[@jeffhooper3447]

Did you ever enjoy it? I only did 4 grams and stopped.

[@matthewjago1]

If it hadn't vanished I expect a lot of us would be dead ..

[@JayboTheHood]

I actually typed a longer reply than that but it vanished. Very short version - Yes. I absolutely enjoyed it. It was like a confident coke buzz, stimulant crossed with the spangleisation of MDMA. Oh and a quarter of the price.

[@TheAnadrome]

The elephant in every drug and addiction discussion has to do with meaning, which has been steadily drained out of daily reality. And the underlying question is 'Why?' and 'How did this occur?'. But alas it is a subject forbidden by the communication powers that be.

[@georgesears2916]

I dunno. Humans have always sought some means of chemical enjoyment. Beer was literally the first written word. You could live a perfectly well adjusted life and still fall to addiction given the right combination of genetics and circumstance. As for 'communication powers that be'... don't worry, there are plenty of people complaining about everything and nobody's stopping them.

[@Nikitaandmichael2019]

How did it happen? They changed the chemical structures so the compound wasn’t illegal.

[@ancienttimes3773]

@@georgesears2916 I completely agree. I've been addicted to a shit load of things. With anything other than benzos I was just chasing the high, and even with benzos I often was.

[@boonz6951]

Well said at the end. Great video. Keep it up bro!

[@jamesbenn9632]

you’re videos are so spot on man

[@E.p.i.c]

The fact that banning a Drug only worsens the drug usage problem is crazy

[@taqiyyaconcarne6908]

Right? Like murder and theft. People are going to do it anyway, so why make it worse for society by trying to stop them with deterrents, like laws

[@mrvictorian4004]

That's untrue, it's simply the matter of competence that the law and police are able to eliminate it from society

[@texanarchy666]

@@taqiyyaconcarne6908this but unironically. anarchism is the way.

[@robmanueb.]

@@taqiyyaconcarne6908 People aren't asking to make murder and theft legal. If you can't comprehend the difference between adults having the right to make decisions for their own bodies and killing someone then there isn't much hope of reasonable discussion. There have been lobbies to reform drug laws world wide since they criminalised drugs, you will, I am sure have noticed their isn't an equivalent lobby to legalise murder and theft. You may have also noticed that murder and theft have been frowned upon since Adam and Eve, yet we have had tolerance to a variety of drugs for just as long. The argument that we should legalise murder and theft because drug laws don't work and are counter to societal health goals is vacuous and lacking in any logic whatsoever.

[@chrissonnenschein6634]

Umm dont forget how much illegal non-vat alcohol and tobacco is consumed... only there is more profit in drugs.

[@mariyatakeuchi9009]

These feel like a fever dream now. Fond memories of skipping school and watching my older friends do this in parks with white lightning. ( I say fond very loosely)

[@RYANLEWIS-pd7zs]

Wow grubby friends much?

[@texanarchy666]

@@RYANLEWIS-pd7zsjust say you didnt have fun in high school

[@mariyatakeuchi9009]

@@RYANLEWIS-pd7zs you were the type of people I’d avoid and that’s really something

[@backroomsspecialist6079]

Bruh drugs are gay, cope

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

Bruv spice and White-ace was one hell of a combo.

[@greenockscatman]

Solid channel mate. Having seen some of the effects of these legal highs and then the more devastating effects of the legal highs they came up after those were banned, I wholeheartedly agree legislation is needed.

[@orion10x10]

I knew this was going to be a banger when you mentioned 3-MMC, 5-APB and JWH-018 🔥🔥🔥 fantastic coverage

[@notmenotme614]

6:24 The equipment they’re using is quite dirty, covered in filth” They should see my local takeaways. Why aren’t they illegal?

[@cattysplat]

It's "food".

[@royferguson3909]

❤

[@infjmale91]

This was a real issue. I remember being 15/16 & looking MUCH older so had people (in my year), at school, pay me to buy these "legal highs". All I remember is going to a tattoo shop, asking for some fun pills & they provided a fully manufactured packet which contained 4 blue & red pills with crazy logos on them. I gave them to the people & from what I know, they haven't had a great life.

[@intellectually_lazy]

i looked grown up in my teens, lol, i look 30 at 47

[@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650]

So this all happened in school and we’re gonna blame drugs? Seems really a really dishonest and biased analysis of the situation to me to be honest.

[@vlc-cosplayer]

"I gave them to the people & from what I know, they haven't had a great life." Grim reaper sh-t 💀💀

[@maquesim4296]

​@@intellectually_lazyI had a friend everyone called 40yo Mike. He was like 2 years younger than me and would buy me liquor.

[@infjmale91]

@@vlc-cosplayer I didn't know either. I was only 15. Plus money.

[@Isgonesomewhere]

What a great video mate, good job.

[@nomorenames5568]

I made so much money selling RC's and tried so many amazing drugs that will never be seen again. It's no stretch to say that the early 2010s were the craziest time for drug users in human history. Never before or since were extremely rare and exotic chemicals so readily available. You've heard of DMT? How do you think DPT is? Or even crazier - DiPT (this one causes auditory hallucinations!)?

[@Ubawbag]

Dont know if they are connected but when everyone was taking the legal high ( mephadrone ) there was loads of suicides in my area , i personally knew of 7 or 8 people who committed suicide roughly between 2006 to 2012 and most of them took mephadrone every weekend

[@tdogg223]

Yeah same experience 👍

[@Ubawbag]

@@tdogg223 👍

[@karisigursson5679]

i was visiting friends there when i was 19 and we bought Benzo Fury from an "apothacery". I stayed up for three days and saw black holes, one of my friends when to psych ward, shit was fucked up.

[@craigslater8227]

Sounds mint

[@kaizer2k2]

mate you are insane, I remember watching "top 10 scariest drug" videos when I was 12 and I have the name of every hardcore fucked up drug engraved into my head. Benzo fury is one of the most fucked up drugs right next to krokodil.

[@SofaKingShit]

Good grief what a name. Why not Meth Madness or Vodka Violence. Coke Psycho.

[@frawgeatfrawgworld]

loool benzo fury was kinda mild from what i remember

[@karisigursson5679]

well it was very hard crystal, we crushed it as much as we could but it still hurt like a fucker snorting it, so i did like 4 lines in total, kept me awake for 3 days straight hallucinating demonic shit both audio and visual and i vomited untill i was vomiting what looked like raw egg and water at the end, not mild imo but dno what your into @@frawgeatfrawgworld

[@issytharolf1000]

one of your best yet jimmy my boy

[@Llew_Ed]

Really enjoyed this one!!!!!!!

[@paullawson8610]

Back in the 90s we had a fucking great time on E and the early interweb was fun and not run by corporate suits

[@AzaIndustries]

I mourn for the internet and what we have lost.

[@joshpiotrowski3487]

Oh the pressed e pills. Blue doves were my fave

[@garethllewellyn215]

​@@joshpiotrowski3487😅 went to a enter the dragon reunion, Cardiff vision 2k nightclub at the time was incredible..it was 20 years to the fckin day of the last event they put on and I loved it...except the pills were rubbish...used to love the green tulips speckled mitzies and China whites

[@bazjr86]

Yeah xtc was brilliant fun every weekend pretty much. The internet has gone down hill since about 2015, then big time after kov1d.

[@briangilmore3076]

Me smoking a joint as the video starts telling me to go for a run 😂

[@cjckdbdhx]

Mate if I was high watching this I'd be stressing 😂

[@muckypuppy4445]

Makes two of us fella. All well n good so long as you are keeping up other good habits.

[@Bigzzeus]

Same lmao

[@cannotfindmyshoes3]

Duh.

[@tropixi5336]

"mimic weed" it does nothing weed does

[@dr.nug7103]

It works on the same receptors as cannabis, but more than 100x stronger.

[@kennwan9917]

Glad you covered Mkat. I had a mate that was hospitalised from abusing it. Probably made in terrible conditions. Ended up getting physical brain rot. Permanent brain damage. I started smoking bud when I was 13, in 2008. With the people I'd met through it, I was offered legal highs on a daily basis, as a young lad. Glad I was smart enough to steer clear.

[@noimnotarobotcanubeleiveit7024]

Lol i used to cook it from sudafed and drain cleaner

[@jamesscott5603]

I was at uni in 2009 buying spice at a shop on the high street! Gave me awful head aches after a while. Great video Jimmy!

[@brubeck1]

i smoked a joint with someone he couldnt believe id just bought it from a shop (and paid tax on it) he was wrecked .

[@intellectually_lazy]

uni, high street, i love it!

[@TheRealName7]

Sounds like skill issue to me

[@Treasurentreats]

Yeah........freedom was nice..............much better than now when people are damaged by the thing I can't mention..........

[@OneMancBanned]

Quality video again man !

[@DjDolHaus86]

One of the reasons for the rise of Mcat in the UK was because during the 2010s some chemical that was required for the production of MDMA went on the controlled substances list and the supply train ground to a halt. The rave scene went from something where you only had to be mildly cautious of a new batch (every once in a while some dodgy E's or MDMA appeared) to where you had no idea of what you were going to get, sometimes it was just mildly disappointing, sometimes it killed people.

[@TheAcuphase]

Safrole

[@natoxbox360]

Since when did mcat kill anyone bruv 😂😂

[@cathal3020]

​@natoxbox360 you really do lack reading comprehension skills don't you

[@Murderdogs]

@@natoxbox360 You can easily look that up and find easy answers, but pretty obvious you'd rather stay ignorant from your snarky comment. That's your problem, not everyone else's.

[@TriPpY_DiScO]

excellent video, just telling it how it was/is. loved and subbed

[@kiranup3329]

Straight up best uk content creator never misses

[@JimmyTheGiant]

Thank you bro ❤️

[@Veeo669]

Woah I actually did my dissertation on legal highs! Cite my paper so I look good to my supervisors. Joking aside, this was an interesting take on this topic.

[@lucandesouzadrummond9030]

What field are you in?

[@Veeo669]

@@lucandesouzadrummond9030 Forensic toxicology.

[@isaacs8783]

What's the paper called if it's publicly available?

[@jabezhane]

I have to say this passed me by totally but myself and none of my friends were into that scene. Thank goodness.

[@mtonitonit2456]

Great video! I knew people who went through all these periods and chemicals. Its horrible. Ive been trying to pound it into peoples heads my whole life that these things are horrible. Often worse than the drugs they "imitate".

[@shockafter7]

This happened here in New Zealand too, and got worse when it was illegal and sold in the black market. People were frothing from the mouth and dying.

[@TradieTrev]

You kiwis properly legalised it at one point in time! I was seriously going to move there so I can sell drugs lol

[@shockafter7]

@@TradieTrev people pretty much do that anyway illegal or not lol weed still illegal but no one cares.

[@TradieTrev]

@@shockafter7 When you look at drug reform laws I think New Zealand & Argentina did offer the best for people that need treatment. Let's not overlook that from a health prospective.

[@shockafter7]

@@TradieTrev I agree. I work with offenders, who the majority have issues with drugs, especially meth, and those services have a long list. Some of my clients have been told they have to wait two years before they can even try to get in. That is similar for other areas of our health system too. Our hospitals, general practitioners and mental health services are heavily understaffed. So, imo its another case of "looks good on paper but its not the reality".

[@TradieTrev]

@@shockafter7 Mental health from friends would always help me in time of need than a government authority. That's just my opinion, some don't have friends to trust upon.

[@HyperactiveHighs]

Ok Jimmy you've solidly convinced me not to do drugs so I will be rebranding into a running channel.

[@bretwojarski5842]

Descartes called it the seed of the soul where mind and body meet, each individual cell in our body receives an electromagnetic impulse from our central nervous system they receive the very same impulse that was disseminated to every biological instrument from the earth and explanation of our conscious universe has been attempted by religion, science and philosophy, the neglect of biological nature from any organism causes illness, a divorce from nature exile from eden confounding of tongues they are all symptoms not of a biblical god or deity but the true self. The greatest and only threat to ourselves is a loss of self the death of our divinity.

[@danielreed1859]

Bro gave you a main quest

[@owenmcghee1666]

I had to leave my home because my upstairs neighbour became psychopathic and he's now sectioned. I don't know how to deal with these things but improving mental health services could help.

[@PraiseTheLord847]

Psychotic, not psychopathic. These are gravely different

[@666_tim]

Enjoyed this. Mkat was brilliant 😂

[@foxyninjaa]

Bro you are so underrated, keep grinding!!

[@theofficialstig]

unfortunately the blanket ban made safe RCs illegal when synthetic cannabinoids were the ones causing issues

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

you can still buy kgs of the powders from china.

[@KennyOspreay]

Completely forgot about all this. The legal high was massive when I was in college, everyone acting like they were in an episode of Skins

[@moryshitchings6903]

Great informative video

[@suckieduckie]

We still have a similar problem in the Netherlands. Basically we have something in our constitution that's called the Legality principle which means that the state can only arrest or fine you for breaking a law. If there is no law for something, like internet scams for example, it's not illegal. This exists to protect citizens from random prosecution, but it's also a double-edged sword.

[@ayemane2828]

I mean, isn't that how it's supposed to work? You break a law you get arrested, id hate to live somewhere where you can be arrested for....not breaking the law xD

[@bartsimba4]

Ik snap niet helemaal wat dit met designerdrugs te maken heeft haha. Daarnaast, dit werkt toch in ieder land zo?

[@Dog-hl7yj]

That comment is so stupid

[@bartsimba4]

@@Dog-hl7yj bro tried saying something smart 🤓

[@suckieduckie]

@@bartsimba4 Bro doesn't know history or any form of law in non western countries. During the French Revolution this idea was founded because Robespierre, and Louis XIV used their power to prosecute anyone who would oppose them regardless of the law. The idea is combined with the Trias Politica, meaning the persons who make the laws, execute the laws, and test the laws should be seperated.

[@bkkillafromda6170]

Brooo the human whack a mole at 6:49 was hilarious

[@JimmyTheGiant]

I wanna play it tbh

[@celardoorhorse]

this program has well earned a sub

[@111BlackOpsFTW111]

You could buy this stuff at the gas stations in the US for a couple weeks before they banned it. This shit would literally put you on your ass or send you on a schizophrenic trip, which unfortunatley one of my friends never recovered from....

[@omnideluxee]

Ooft man. I was addicted to legal highs when it first hit the UK back in the early 2010’s, we used to get tick from shops, like proper shops were turning into defacto drug dealers. People dying, seizures, vommiting, getting taken to hospital etc. it was really bad, I nearly fell out a 5 story window during a bad episode on a legal high called Red Exodus.

[@f1o18iwi9]

love the video :)

[@bobbieaustin5267]

Oh I definitely haven't forgotten about it! K2 definitely is locked into my core memories 😆😆

[@kevinmcnamara73]

I remember this time well. Head shops in Ireland were everywhere in the late 2000s. Mephadrone. I remember actually snorting lines from a cd on the street as the cops walked by...totally legal! Wild times.

[@F1rstp3rson]

I remember legal highs. The withdrawal from synthetic cannabinoids is terrible. Haven't touched it in years, at least not on purpose. Some dealers would spray their cannabis with it to make it seem stronger. Had a few highs from bath salts, but it's just a bad high.

[@nucleja]

keep up the videos, love seeing information we always parroted in our youth being put down to film and kept for the world to see. life before the blanket ban was initially trippy then horribly benzo towards the end. hope it didn't harm you or your friends and family cus this shit was so wide spread yet so ignored. love the vids have a good one jimmy

[@h.walker1332]

Accidently did spice once. Felt amazing and for like 3 weeks afterwards I was craving it again. Glad I avoided it.

[@Ph4nToMX]

"choppin' it up, snortin' it and playing counterstrike 1.6 bunnyhop maps until 6am" holy shit, too real lmao

[@pistol0grip0pump]

I remember in Bournemouth there were business cards everywhere advertising cheap mephedrone (In weights upto a keg *1 kg* with fast delivery, faster than Dominos) And they were right! 24 hours a day - days a week you'd phone the number and in 30 minutes at the most a dude on a push bike would turn up and if he was late, or you bought 4 you'd get a 5th free. Absolutely insane.

[@chrismason6857]

Everybody needs to see this video!

[@user-om1tl1ti8t]

brilliant video.

[@milenabianca9787]

I had a spice period in my life and it was truly horrific and scary I was sectioned under the mental health act multiple times. And ever since I live in fear of it somehow getting into my system or something making me feel the way it made me feel. I saw a story about it being in a disposable vape the other day and it brought back all the fear again. I almost didn’t even watch this video because of the trauma it makes me feel physically sick, thankfully it was handled well but it’s still hard to see.

[@ThatGuy-mj6jm]

You're okay, you're not broken, and you will continue to be okay. If you get freaked out about laced substances, stop doing substances. I promise you that you are just as interesting without as you are with those things. I don't have to know you to know that. Sobriety takes practise. When that fear/that voice/that emotion intrudes on your daily life, redirect your focus to something else. It sounds simple, it sounds too simple. Just try it, you have nothing to lose

[@milenabianca9787]

@@ThatGuy-mj6jm I’m completely clean I don’t even drink alcohol it’s been almost 6 years since I last smoked real weed but I have a fear of someone smoking it near me in the street (I live near a council estate so that’s not impossible) but I’m even scared I’ll inhale an air fresher or something and it will make me feel the way spice did. It really was a terrible time for me and it made me feel so out of control I only did it for a couple of months but it changed my life. I did do weed and drink for a couple of years after I gave up spice but eventually I couldn’t trust it I was too scared it would be laced, so like you said I had to give it all up and that’s been a positive but I still live with the fear all the time

[@anomalousproductions3747]

@@milenabianca9787That sounds like a specific anxiety brought about by this horrible and traumatic experience. You will be okay, there is no danger anymore. If it is ever too difficult (and you have the money to spare) a therapist or counsellor would be fully equipped to help you overcome this obsessive fear. I know exactly how you feel. It may not seem like I do, but I really do understand.

[@user-yf7ey1pr9r]

Please find a very skilled EMDR therapist and have a series of sessions. Worked wonders for many people around me with anxiety due to a kinds of trauma. Much love, Jorn from the Netherlands!

[@mr.alkenly889]

as we can see from alcohol prohibition, banning it really doesn't do anything

[@SIGSEGV1337]

alcohol prohibition worked tho

[@funnyyellowdog8833]

@SIGSEGV1337 It worked for the mafia

[@SIGSEGV1337]

@@funnyyellowdog8833It also worked for most of the US population who saw overall violent crime plummet. The only downside was that the crime that was left become more organized, but the fact of the matter is the only reason prohibition ended was because alot of people were annoyed the mafia was making money instead of them.

[@AzaIndustries]

and usually prevents any serious research for potential benefits (eg psilocybin)

[@christiane5984]

@@SIGSEGV1337 It didn't. Mafias raked in massive profits and political influence providing alcohol to the people that wanted it. Why do you spout off saying idiotic things like this?

[@Klaudiuszeg]

We had similar thing in Poland called "dopalacze" which were legal for few years

[@omgwtfbbq2011]

jimmy is killing it

[@NeilMartin98]

I remember these, very skeptical. We had 76 deaths involving 'legal highs' in 2016 and 58 from fentanyl in the UK. To compare, the US had around 63,500 from opioid deaths then alone. The pushing from Purdue proved to be fatal to a lot of normal working class Americans who had pain from manual labour and other ailements. One of the saddest things to happen in a modern western society and is still going on today.

[@davidabest7195]

Never trust the zionist who control the pharmaceutical industry.

[@davekennedy6315]

13:05 the two supposed `Mephedrone` deaths were actually down to Methadone (a government issued Heroin substitute) and £$%& all to do with Mephedrone! Plus you can`t say that Spice is a thing of the past either as it is still extensively out there, especially amongst the homeless.

[@musicaladdiction4147]

I’m weaning myself off methadone right now and lost count of the number of people that have died from it. Even a small dose is deadly. I am only on 30ml daily and it probably isn’t enough take a life but about a year ago I was up at 95ml and if someone was to take that dose without having a heavy addiction already they are dead 100% of the time.

[@musicaladdiction4147]

Spice is still everywhere, my friend smoked it last year and collapsed in the middle of the street. The EMT would not listen to me that it was not opiates and hit her with the naloxone anyway. Obviously didn’t work but the guy kept saying he saw improvement I think he was trying to convince himself because I warned him not to do it and clearly told him she smoked legal.

[@davekennedy6315]

@musicaladdiction4147 was she OK? The ambulance crews are so used to seeing Opiate ODs that Narcan/Naloxone is their go to solution. I hope she recovered.

[@musicaladdiction4147]

@@davekennedy6315 Aye she is sound, but av seen the naloxone a few times it’s scary how fast they get back up.

[@musicaladdiction4147]

@@davekennedy6315 I just saw this and yes she was ok but she got the fright of her life. If my neighbour hadn’t found her when he did I don’t know if she would have survived tbh her lips were blue.

[@sophiejanewilliams]

I live in a town where this is such a huge problem to this day. At an old job of mine in the centre of town, I lost count of the amount of times ambulances has to be called due to people just lying around unresponsive after taking spice. Its heart breaking that where I live, its so common to see someone sprawled out on the ground that everyone just steps over them and goes on with their day without a second thought. But realistically what happens? You can all ambulance, they're taken away and they're back doing exactly the same thing the next day.

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

and the hospitals cant do anything about it anyway. They lay you on a bed for an hour, you get up and leave, feeling perfectly fine. Theres no anti-spice, you gotta wait the shit out.

[@pandashoots]

well said!

[@itsMBWAAA]

Man I smoked Spice wayyy back in the day when it was brand new and I was shocked at how similar it was to the real thing... then over the years the molecule had been tweaked and tweaked and it became something completely different. I only ever smoked it once and I'm glad I never tried it again lol

[@itsMBWAAA]

oh damn as I typed that you ended up speaking about how it changed lol

[@pbtrading]

This might have changed since, but when I was in New Zealand like 3 years ago lots of people were still hella addicted to "synnies" as they'd call them. It was so common there that I'd never smoke someone else's joint, even if I thought I could trust them. Especially if I didn't see them roll it. People were also using meth super casually while keeping their life together. I was working with the council at the time doing landscaping and maintenance around the rivers and streams. Those guys (my colleagues) were aged 20-65, employed by the government, smoking meth and 'synnies' all the time it was super shocking to me. Most of them had been working there 10+ years doing the drugs. Had all their teeth, ate somewhat healthy, got work done (a lot actually lol). They weren't acting like the LA zombies for some reason. But yeah I've seen some people go fully mad on those synnies over there. Glad I never touched them.

[@DustinDonald-cz9ot]

It is really how it is used and how often. Meth in little use doesn't cause too much damage it affects are similar to drinking a pot of coffee it is in the same family as caffeine, so when used in small amounts and responsibly it gives a jolt of energy much like taking speed which is meth in pill form. Those guys in LA are smoking that crap on the regular, and in most cases they have had little to no sleep in days that is why they act like zombies in many cases they are likely hallucinating due to the lack of sleep, extremely paranoid, retarded or slowed thought and hypersensitive to sound it isn't the drug in itself causing it but the lack of rest the person is experiences, meth heads don't sleep very often they too hyped up.

[@zahoin8186]

From my experience working in Scandinavia for about 8 years now, mostly psychical labor, offshore on oil rigs and onshore in big cities and small villages, EVERYONE is on drugs. Just not our own mama.

[@hiibuddiie]

14:13 Damn.. missed out on some of the best candy ever. 😂

[@technovikingsnephew8833]

this was most definitely not forgotten. Regardless, thanks for highlighting it again

[@bodbrochbremner6581]

I’m wondering if you didn’t know and you did use it as plant food. Would it work like it said on the packaging.

[@bungle3912]

I remember buying grams of mephedrone, or ‘plant food’, to try. I though it was disgusting stuff and the comedown was brutal. I just went on Silk Road and bought real drugs in high quality.

[@thehypest6118]

Even just hearing you talk about it is triggering some sort of PTSD response in the back of my brain to the horrible experiences I had on spice, I can't believe me and my mates used it so much

[@conxy4556]

I smoked it thousands of times like idk how im alive at all

[@liamkirkby]

So glad you shouted out Luton for our crackheads. I still get shivers having to walk past "crackhead corner" outside the whitehouse