JINGLIU & Sunday VS DAN HENG & Sunday DAMAGE COMPARISON! | MOC 12 | HSR 2.7

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[@kucingsushi]

I might've accidently covered the skill points.. thank you for the ones who reminded me! 🥺much luv

[@DrickRT]

Sunday teams having either Robin or Sparkle like they're the angel and devil on his shoulders

[@edgieststalker8141]

*Sunday wondering if he should follow the stellaron hunters* Angel Robin: Don't do it, brother! I know you can do better! Demon Sparkle: Do it, little pigeon! Or are you just a cowardly chicken that doesn't want to leave his home?

[@imdani4997]

LMAO FR

[@AmbroseVermillion]

@@edgieststalker8141He’ll compromise and join the Astral Express. Apparently he’s going to help them during Amphoreus

[@mejkun8571]

I love the fact that most of Sunday's best teams includes Robin

[@bromaster9017]

Lol Robin broken character. Perhaps this is the best support for hypercarry. So it doesn't matter whether Sunday is on the team or Sparkle. Robin should be there anyway, she's in charge here

[@Sou_uma_planta]

sparkle would be better, it has a massive damage buff than the robin and allows the dps to hit more times too

[@mercibeaucoup49]

​@@Sou_uma_planta nah bro, I bet you play game on KZbin, robin buff just more impressive than sparkle, and robin allow dps to wear speed boot and still have 5000-6000 ATK, if sparkle is better then people already use her more, but the fact that no meta team need her

[@zenrailgun90]

​@@mercibeaucoup49 well the meta right now is break so yeah, rm and hmc is there on top spot. Robin can be put anywhere (but preferably fua team) due to buff and immediately turn from her ult. For me sparkel belong to cr/cdm dps like dangil or acheron (if your acheron e2 😂)

[@mercibeaucoup49]

@zenrailgun90 robin actually the best option for all crit value dps so I don't think sparkle have any important role in the meta, sparkle doesn't pair good with robin so won't help much either, just a standard banner support in disguise

[@Akatosh153]

Should definitely try the Jingliu run again after V3 update. The amount of times you couldn't ult because of that tiny bit of ult that you didn't have is crazy. But thankfully it got buffed

[@kucingsushi]

IKR 😭😭 Finally someone also noticed

[@xian_n2]

may i ask what's the v3 update you mentioned?

[@Shin-gn7ng]

@@xian_n2it’s the beta V3, it updated Sunday & fugue’s kits In v3, Sunday’s ult got a trace that ups his ult’s energy boost from 20% to 40 energy at minimum if the 20% energy restores less than 40 energy

[@VeroGDLK]

good showcase :) i would just try not to cover the skill points next time lol

[@sonixx_senpai9044]

12:34 Just want to know is sunday a sp positive, as i can see if you use skill it doesn't deduct skill point

[@javalidecristal9891]

Old sunday was something around -0.5 SP per action since he had a passive to not spend SP every other turn, with his light cone he would be slightly SP positive. The new sunday is completely SP neutral as long as you keep 100% up-time on his ult and since his LC didn't change he becomes more SP positive than sparkle.

[@Guilherme_Oliveira_]

​@@javalidecristal9891If I put Sunday's light cone on Sparkle will she be more sp positive? (Sorry for the english)

[@jmcMateo]

@@Guilherme_Oliveira_could also use bronya cone for sparkle

[@javalidecristal9891]

@@Guilherme_Oliveira_ yes she would, Sunday's LC rivals Bronya's in versatility, the only thing that makes sunday a better user of his LC than sparkle is that the damage bonus and the SP recovery the LC gives can't be activated by Sparkle's ultimate. In the same note, Sunday is the only other character that comes close to being able to use Sparkle's LC, since he's the only harmony character that can remain sp neutral/positive without throwing away his gameplan, in this case the only drawback is that Sparkle's LC broken as hell passive gets shut down every 3 turns then gets turned back on on his next turn.

[@sonixx_senpai9044]

@@javalidecristal9891 thanks for the info...so we can say Sunday is buffed version of bronya.

[@esmi1495]

1:26 Bruh even Sunday can't save her from Jingliu moments

[@shinidragon7775]

I'm confused. What are you even referring to?

[@esmi1495]

@shinidragon7775 I'm so done with that JL ALWAYS leaves how hp enemis which forces you to waste her stacks or which is even worse her ult to end them. It's so annoying

[@jaysoncayetano2943]

7:22 this one is also a Jingliu moment

[@esmi1495]

​@@jaysoncayetano2943she just can't without Jingliu moments. No matter what team you run, no matter 2hat enemies are, she always leaves an enemy at low hp like she does it intentionally to annoy

[@RandomPerson-sh9tu]

@@shinidragon7775 When enemies are literally at, like, 1hp, and you have to waste an ult or enhanced skill to kill them, look at the timestamp, you can't even see their health bar they're so low

[@penguinsavior7346]

Move the name so I can see the skill points, good showcase

[@alnonegiz-j3j]

As Dhil main, it is a dilemma to gacha Sunday. Maybe replace Luocha with Aventurine. For E0 Dhil and no sign lc, it can be tough challenge for sp management. In general, sparkle is unmovable and must have for dhil.

[@kucingsushi]

That last sentence is so true fr

[@HRavenfolks]

Sunday is meant for future-proofing upcoming character 3.0+, sadly. So, if you currently don't have viable DPS or Support to clear content, I'd suggest you pull for someone else on the meantime. But, if you are content to wait for 3.0, he'll be busted with upcoming Summoner archetype characters.

[@Chill_Archon]

I can only imagine if that IL is S2 then damn that's good Edit: I meant E2

[@mostafaelnaggar4235]

You did IL dirty by putting him in a very suboptimal team

[@aryosheva8204]

even worse if he put robin instead of sparkle. you think this game gave you infinite sp?

[@jaysoncayetano2943]

only Loucha

[@mostafaelnaggar4235]

@@jaysoncayetano2943 he should replace sparkle with robin

[@mostafaelnaggar4235]

@aryosheva8204 he doesn't need to do E3BA every turn there was someone who posted that same team and did this exact stage in 2 cycles

[@jaysoncayetano2943]

@@mostafaelnaggar4235 SP negative and and healing on attack of Loucha can't be use by Sunday and Robin, and Robin won't generate SP since she always use skills to up her ult fast she also doesn't generate SP when in ult... I guess you're planning on only using level 1 IL basic attack lol

[@horus777]

Can you please try a team combination of Jingliu, Sunday, Bronya/Sparkle and any sustain ? I am confused to either go for sunday or fugue, as the upcoming new playstyle is of servants and the MC path will also change in the future so substitute hyperbreak character is also needed. I would really appreciate it 🥺 Thanks

[@Glizzyman]

Imo you don't need fugue, she's not a crazy boost for anyone but boothill and acheron somewhat while Sunday is a supp so you really don't want to skip on him. He fits with many old characters, and will work with the new summon meta and according to leaks, with the fate collab aswell

[@andrealcenenrico3751]

If you want to have a two break team, go for fugue. however, sunday might be foreshadowing what might to come in 3.0, and you need him to maximize your team comp. Your choice is: 1.Go for fugue on a double break team, Super break has already proven itself as a broken playstyle 2.Invest on 3.0 by pulling on a unit with unique mechanic. Note: If you are pulling sunday for jingliu, No it's not worth-it to invest on the standard hypercarry atm. Bronya/Sparkle and robin is the composition if you really want to maximize jingliu

[@horus777]

@@andrealcenenrico3751 Thanks ! Cleared a lot of the fog

[@horus777]

@@Glizzyman yes ... considering the future characters will go for Sunday, only with good pull reserves ...thanks man

[@IkitheStiki]

Now do this again, after the v3 changes !!

[@Razorrrrrrrrrrrr]

As a ftp e3 Dan heng user, seeing him only have 2 enhance skills when using his burst is horrific , i am not ok

[@three_wood_sen]

wdym by ftp? who asked this

[@LeeHwin]

Can you try IL Sunday without Sparkle?

[@nykout]

Would Sunday be good for Seele or is Bronya better?

[@theghastlygamerz999]

for most teams that can use Bronya, Sunday will be better... the only exception i can have for this is you're using an E2 Firefly with an E2 Bronya with eagle set and some dance dance dance LC... because at that point, Bronya's talent is actually getting some use while the E2 just makes it easier to fit turns inside Firefly's ULT state. basically you'd be able to fit up 3 Bronya turns inside the 142.85 AV duration of Firefly's ULT which makes firefly take 6 to 7 turns + up to 3x Extra turns when FF breaks. but yeah other than that... Sunday works better in most situations i can think of especially seele since she's extremely SP hungry that even sparkle would be a better choice which also makes Sunday the best one since he's a 100% advance forward character that has slightly better SP consumption/economy than Sparkle.

[@nykout]

@theghastlygamerz999 Thanks so much for the detailed answer!! I will really consider pulling Sunday then, but there are so many cool chatacters and only so many jades (⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠_⁠_⁠_⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠-̩̩̩⁠)

[@komgoo4974]

I want to see Sunday Bronya so bad like 6 turns 0 cycle yes plzzz. But it’s prolly only doable with like a high speed Gallagher/luocha and both of them s1

[@wein1511]

Still not a dedicated support for Jingliu. I mean, her kit revolves around hp manipulation, and sunday just ain't an hp manipulation support. Still room for growth when a dedicated hp manipulation support arrives. If ever, though.

[@Kim_Imyoung]

Wow thanks for not letting use see the skill point management just to put Jingliu/DHIL and Robin like we couldn't tell ☺

[@Kim_Imyoung]

Nvm you already addressed it

[@jaysoncayetano2943]

I would use Huohuo on that JL run for more energy and for constant heal every turn

[@owowonn]

this is such bad comparison. There’s tons of showcases out there showing E0S0 dhil with sunday and robin clearing at 1 cycle at most, he lost so much cycle here since u used sparkle instead of robin.

[@RykeDiamond]

But why do you want to see the same comp that you already know is good? They have to test everything

[@owowonn]

@ well the title is called “damage comparison” so you gotta maximize and profit from everything you have at disposal, so why limit danheng’s supports when you can use robin instead? it’s not a fair comparison if only jingliu gets to use her when danheng can literally do it as well. It’s not about knowing the team comp is already good lol

[@Greennaris_Rater]

I keep finding these comments about using Robin with DHIL, even some that talk about Robin being better for e2 DHIL than e0..... I just have a question for you. Where the f*** are you getting sp with that setup??? How is that supposed to work, like, ever?

[@shariqueraza4409]

​@@Greennaris_Rater are u stupid ? My guy Robin advances everyone so the other characters besides Robin and dhil generate sp .

[@poguprobablyhuman]

are you stupid?

[@JJ-mn3nd]

I might need a better build on DHIL, mine constantly does 230k per basic with tingyun, this is making DHIL look kinda bad lol

[@otakuanimemanga1919]

C0 all of them? I want to use Sunday with Dan Heng.

[@salamence1218]

Does sparkle skill and Sunday ult crit dmg boost stacks?

[@Niv_Touhou]

No, you should use Sunday + Robin in DHIL team after V3

[@ss45678]

Wouldn't huo huo be a better option here?

[@sutkonos]

she can't provide skill points for the team, but after v3 changes she might work on jingliu + sunday comps

[@sgnomiya.odidi1362]

No if ur enemies is swarm

[@Geese3]

Yup, her passive burst healing is better for jingliu than it being only occasional, and she'll only need to use it every 2nd turn she gets, or every turn at the highest difficulties, but even then jingliu's best open supports, pela and ruan mei can both be fairly SP possitive, if sunday is like bronya where he's sp neutral, if you can keep jingliu in her empowered state, SP issues are gone.

[@epicgamer5620]

​@sutkonos it's not a might its a "most definitely " after the changes sunday is more sp positive than sparkle(he butchered e6 sparkle at e0 s1) so you most definitely can I have seen people run il with suday robin and huo huo

[@sutkonos]

@@epicgamer5620 I'm assuming e0s0 everyone

[@handrel1]

I 3 cycled this bug during 1.6 using Seele now idk if i can kill this thing in 8 cycles.

[@linkoln579521]

I wholeheartedly believe that if you need two buffers to make a single character good, maybe it's not that good, but then again someone can gon miles for their waifu/husbando, and it's okay

[@Amariandkylene]

Tbh a lot of characters use multiple buffers it’s not even funny

[@Bakatora04]

It is called hypercarry teams some characters fall into that team archetype.

[@flutterbymoons]

that's what hypercarry means, and most of hsr teams uses 2 buffers. and if you're gonna say break teams sucks for using 2 buffers well then that's on you 💀

[@esmi1495]

@@linkoln579521 you have 4 slots in team for a reason 💀 You can run 2 dps+buff/debuff+sustain or 1 dps+2buff/debuff+sustain This is how game works, good morning

[@icyliu1.4]

Jingliu + Sunday vs. Dan. IL + Sunday ❌ Jingyuan + Sunday ✔️

[@krix_ten]

Can anyone tell me how to speed tune that DHIL, Sunday and Sparkle???

[@RinHimeevelyn]

I wonder why did you mess up so many Imbibitor ULTS, you might ult before 3EBA, not after, if you do after, you waste a lot of damage from 3EBA.

[@fwi8033]

Give luocha sunday’s set for some extra crit

[@nikolasone1148]

So do i need to have sparkle be the first one to buff? Does dan heng still keep the sparkle buffs after sundays advance?

[@epicgamer5620]

The videos you saw are probably v3 videos

[@screamaskzxyers]

do you have the V3 update for this ?

[@GODCHAMA]

The enemies feel weak bro

[@Condensed_rock]

3 mil hp tho

[@noice9193]

Doesn’t sparkles buff last until the characters next turn so isn’t it being wasted by having another character advance their turn?

[@blazikenfury8852]

It lasts till the beginning of next turn, in short if you advance someone with sparkle, they do their attack... Their turn ends. Now after that while your enemies and other characters are acting, if you cast an ultimate or follow up, it will also be buffed until their next turn happens. Another action forward doesn't affect this.

[@Dante_ainda_no_inferno]

Jingyuan & Sunday vs topaz & Sunday !

[@noctisraizel6498]

Is this E0S1 Sunday? or just E0?

[@Sundaymybeloved1011]

What should i replace if i dont have robin? Dont have sparkle either..

[@yourmissright7]

Tingyun I guess or any debuffer should doo

[@SshhhX7]

I can run mono imaginary when I pull him

[@heartlove_mamondesu1529]

Can we play Sunday+Danheng without Hanabi?

[@berryl1766]

As long your other two chara is able to sp positive then sure you can go with that.

[@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou]

After V3 , if you get his Lightcone Sunday becomes sp positive, I think you can get away with not having his LC if your two other teammates are sp positive.

[@justblue576]

With his lc Robin become more viable

[@shinsuke2158]

Can sunday replace sparkle and tigyun 4 star for dan feng

[@kucingsushi]

In terms of damage, it's possible. But sparkle herself has her own spot in most dan feng team, but it's just me maybe 👍

[@lazylix856]

А зачем ты с Даней взял искорку, а не зазу?

[@esmi1495]

@@lazylix856 затем, что там v1 версия Сандэя, которая на е0н1 сп нейтральна (тратит 1 од и восстанавливает 1 од и в сумме 0 од). Зарянка, как мы знаем, од не генерирует. А в этом отряде вынуждена спамить ешкой, тк частота атак Дани оставляет желать лучшего. В итоге бедному Лоче приходилось бы делать по 4 хода в цикл, чтобы обеспечить ОДНУ усиленную базу Дани. Ну не отстой? Обновленная версия Сандэя должна уже работать лучше

[@lazylix856]

@esmi1495 а лоча зачем, если можно взять Галлахера?

[@lazylix856]

@esmi1495 если ты возьмёшь в эту пачку Галлахера с равноценным обменом, то на зазе можно ешку повторно не нажимать

[@esmi1495]

@@lazylix856 даже если берется Галлахер, там всё равно было бы адски душно по од, тк Сандэй не генерировал од, Заза тоже раз в сто лет один од выдавала бы, Даня их только ел. Галахеру бы приходилось делать 3 хода перед каждым ходом Дани за исключением моментов, когда тот ультует. Галлахер, конечно, хорошая батарейка, но не настолько.

[@lazylix856]

@esmi1495 проблема v1

[@matrioxraven1929]

4:10 como? Porque? No era que le pegabam menos?

[@boothefrogert]

He’s not out yet is he?

[@kucingsushi]

Not yet, u've saved enough already 😆

[@inari1424]

I love Sunday.

[@kucingsushi]

Me too 😭

[@inari1424]

@@kucingsushi yey :D

[@Jahhax]

ngl, a lot of wasted movement on Jingliu play

[@cakecherry6232]

Dan Hen very good❤❤❤

[@chescaaldea2449]

2 cycle diff is crazy. Midlunae😢

[@kucingsushi]

IKR 😢, I want him, hope you will get him too luv

[@cryophoenix6114]

This is V1 Sunday. With V3, DHIL and Sunday can now do one cycles. And Sparkle is no longer DHIL's bis support. It's just Sunday+Robin combo now.

[@esmi1495]

Don't act like JL's 4 cycles isn't also mid af. Especially with Robin lmao. And let's ignore both support's CC in DHIL run. Both are equally mid, not only dhil

[@discreaminant]

More like Robin diff lol ur Dhil is still strong 😄

[@noice9193]

⁠robin and Sunday can support his sp consumption?