Jinhsi: F2P vs P2W - Weapon Comparison - Wuthering Waves

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[@zelvicpaxley]

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[@AnubhavRawat-d8j]

I guess it is fake

[@hilmanadiwibawa6584]

its pretty big difference between standard *5 weap and signature *5 weap, but as long as both produces full star ToA, its ok i guess

[@zelvicpaxley]

I like your comment.

[@Menle_21]

I hope you continue to upload these types of comparisons.

[@msvita3522]

One thing i noticed is jinhsi needs high crit rate, otherwise a fail crit on her skill will cause another whole rotation again

[@xMomoee]

That's why i use shorekeeper

[@niklasfeldbusch318]

​@@xMomoeeI love Shorekeeper and will pull her on her rerun.

[@yordaniscorzoriquelme8657]

even with high crit prob she miss it like a lot

[@cesarbrad286]

That's why I don't play her anymore I'm tired of reseting to have a good run

[@Yasogi_1]

I just lucky to get it in 6 pull with 0/80 now i can rest farming for next character

[@Anonymous-iw3ij]

Awesome showcase. Could you please show the difference between a premium Jinhsi team (SO R1, with Zhezhi and Verina) and F2P team (S0R1, with Yuanwu and Taoqi) on tower clear times? I am planning to Jinhsi, but skeptical if she is not that good without Zhezhi.

[@hikarii53]

Jinhsi is phenomenal even without Zhezhi. I'm using Jinhsi, Yuanwu, Verina and can generally 3* with this team. And I don't have her weapon btw, I'm using a 4* weapon Helios Cleaver. Just make sure your Jinhsi is built.

[@primohikari8087]

She is good nonetheles. Its just that player's skill is tested more with team member other tan zezhi.

[@mahkeemdehmah10boo87]

@@primohikari8087 Bro what are you even on about? Jinhsi is among the easiest characters to play in a game where all the characters are already easy to play and im not saying that as a bad thing its kind of her whole "shtick" and one of her strengths. Besides, Yuanwu batteries her better then Zhezhi so your point doesnt even makes sense xD Zhezhi ofc is better for Jinhsi's and overall dmg, dont get it twisted. Yuanwu team is worse in dmg but easier to play.

[@primohikari8087]

@@mahkeemdehmah10boo87 jinshi is easy. but i can't play with pink woman and yuanwu, i tried.

[@mahkeemdehmah10boo87]

@@primohikari8087 Drop Taoqi from that team then. I would consider Verina also f2p. Not only because she is from base banner, But by the fact we have an actual selector ticket givin to us not even mentioning the beginner banner or the selector banner lol. I know more people with Verina on their accounts then Taoqi I kid you not xD tho. Tho most have both obviously. As long as its not a character that wanna stay on screen much Jinhsi will make it work. Heck, Even Yuanwu and Mortefi together with Jinhsi is a great team regardless if it sounds lousy on paper it clears completely fine and you can even decide which set to put on Mortefi the support set or the new CA set and rock Yuanwu with a healer setup (or just leave him completely uninvested it will still work). Sure ur dmg per screen shots would be lower but you would be stacking that meter much faster so more instances of dmg and you would be wrecking stagger bars as well.

[@zen-mm5hn]

btw, pulling R1 Age of harvest isn't even p2w.. it think by now you're probably has 2 or more limited banner weapon already in your acc if you're playing since release.. everyone pulling for weapon in wuwa since it's guaranteed.. also, I think pulling for age of harvest is good investment because you dont need to reset the tod so many times to clear 3 crest it.. jinshi gonna miss half of the time.. so building her crit above 70% will present her to miss the nuke..

[@niklasfeldbusch318]

I really need luck. Started the game on December. Pulled for Yinlin and lost after 75 pulls. Then pulled for Zhezhi because of Jinhsi team and needed 72 pulls. When I loose on Jinshi again after 70 pulls I will need to farm really mich to get her and her weapon.

[@Izumi144]

I got her randomly just now and i am surprised because i got so many characters this patch i lost twice once on carlotta and other on zhezhi i got both of them even after losing i also got carlotta sig. Guess I'll just keep pulling for her weapon until this patch ends😂

[@icygaming775]

You didn't use both buffs for her signature weapon. I am not sure. But you should've casted her skill in mid air too right?

[@BreezySlurpy]

after losing to calcharo at pity 76 and got carlotta at pity 72 I thought I lost my liking to this game until kuro surprised me with jinhsi sign weapon at 20th pull with the free pulls.

[@nltiro3387]

Why is your liking to the game based on luck?

[@SmilingRedCar-wl4cw]

I got it at 3 pity😂

[@Far-san-c8z]

Gacha player life be like 😂​@@nltiro3387

[@Niko-pn8bl]

How do you get that much crit rate and crit damage while using a non signature weapon 😭

[@taylorwall8801]

All the limited weapons are worth it for there respective units. If I pull for a character, they get there weapon. It is an extension of the original designed kit. Not to mention WuWa has made it easy to get the weapons.

[@hiroken4401]

well when you get luck for char and you have no left pull for weapon as f2p cuasual

[@eventhorizon710]

What does that even mean: "worth it"? The extra damage doesn't provide any additional gameplay and you can clear ToA completely without signatures. But in Jinhsi's case it's worth it because the big numbers are the main dopamine hit in her kit.

[@nltiro3387]

When you have Carlotta, zani, Phoebe, and the maiden coming up, how do you play to get them and their weapons f2p?, not only do you skip weapons but you skip every other character

[@SashaDegurechaff]

Jeez that Jue echo has some good stats, sad it's not Crit. Damage as main stat though

[@MohamedDiabate-fu7sf]

Plsssss can you try 44111 with lustrous razor to compense the low crit damage and compared it to 43311 age of harvest ??

[@arkabarma3286]

Compensating Cdmg? But ur not compensating for the DMG bonuses u lost tho. Mathematically, having 0 dmg bonus and 100 cdmg is same as 100 dmg bonus and 0 cdmg. 43311 is with sig will be loads better.

[@MohamedDiabate-fu7sf]

@@arkabarma3286 oh I thought the critical damage was stronger than the damage bonus?😭😭😭

[@morving7714]

​@MohamedDiabate-fu7sf cause crit damage multiplies your damage which means having lower base damage because of lack of elemental damage bonus will effect the overall damage anyways 😅. Tho for experimental reasons , I think it's pretty valid tp check it out tbh 😅as to how much difference there is between two sets .

[@MohamedDiabate-fu7sf]

@@morving7714 oh I see but I would also like to test to see what it gives I hope that the creator of the channel will do it 😭

[@zen-mm5hn]

​@@morving7714 I have the 43311 vs 44111 set for my jinshi.. idk if it a fair comparison.. but even using the 44111 (both 4-cost cdmg), the 43311 still slightly better by a bit for my jinshi.. so, using 44111(1 cdmg, 1rate) definitely will lower the jinshi damage i think

[@iiamraheem1348]

I got Jinshi on her release I built her with a 4 star weapon and she was doing 208k. Recently got her signature weapon and now she’s doing 359k 😭 (with Zhezhi and Shorekeeper)

[@Nero13-69]

Can you make a comparison for camellya and jiyan too with the sig and standard weapons

[@zelvicpaxley]

@@Nero13-69 try to find it on my channel.

[@Nero13-69]

@zelvicpaxley i found camellya only i want to see how much difference between Jiyan sig and standard weapons

[@duckyduck5400]

I can't clear it with lustrous razor 😞 any advice pls. I have zhezhi and verina too, my rotation is probably just bad

[@zelvicpaxley]

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[@duckyduck5400]

No I mean, I just need advice. I wanna try and clear it on my own

[@zelvicpaxley]

@@duckyduck5400 You can watch my stream later. Sometimes I use Zhezhi Verina with Standard weapon as well

[@duckyduck5400]

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[@zelvicpaxley]

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[@HarshitRaghuvanshi-n9i]

Bro how to register for pilotting in your discord

[@zayh203]

shorekeeper is coming in 2.1 so I’ll just cope with the 5 star standard for now. Shorekeeper is a bigger upgrade than jinshi signature

[@spike5086]

Should i invest for jinhsi sig.? Im using 4star weapon and her premium team in toa and i can only reach 300k but my carlotta can deal 600k or more i guess. Will her sig. make a big difference?

[@niklasfeldbusch318]

Jinshi is one of the Charakters that really have a huge difference between with or without her weapon. There is no really great f2p broadsword. I will pull her tomorrow together with her sig.

[@daronector937]

I pulled for her weapon twice and still am pulling

[@jakerobert5374]

Jinshi needs signature

[@icygaming775]

@spike5086 Jinhsi does indeed need her signature weapon for most damage. But the Standard 5* is also better until you get signature. Or if you own Jiyan's weapon use it in this case.

[@PhúMinh-i2h]

do you have any run about changli and jinhsi?

[@zelvicpaxley]

Jinhsi and Changli in the same team?

[@Richtofen_-]

No one do that bro its just for fun

[@PhúMinh-i2h]

@ yeah

[@PhúMinh-i2h]

​@@zelvicpaxley i thought changli work with jinhsi very fun

[@CorneliaFlatcher]

😂 no​@@PhúMinh-i2h

[@haloguys3662]

So, is jinshi sig a must pull? I have 80+ pull left on my astrite

[@blueytg6026]

Unless you have Verdant Summit, then yeah getting her weapon is worth it for that crit.

[@haloguys3662]

@blueytg6026 just got it at 16 pull, feeling lucky today

[@blueytg6026]

@@haloguys3662 NICE!!! I got her weapon twice from my first 10 pulls 😂

[@TheProfessionalGlazer]

@@blueytg6026 give me your luck please

[@Edellboi]

im 67 pull and still not have it haha

[@ДэнДятло]

So signature weapon with 100% chance drop = P2W? Seriously? What?

[@MrFirecam]

It's only P2W if you waste real money on that P2W product.

[@niklasfeldbusch318]

The thing is you still need to pull for the weapon after Pullover for the Charakter. Not everyone has enough pulls for charalter and weapon without luck. Because of that I would say it is valid to call it p2w to set a difference between 4*/ standard 5* weapons and the signature weapon.

[@OMIGOSHTHISISSTUPID]

​@@niklasfeldbusch318 I only started playing in October last year and the game gives you a lot of astrite early on + all the chests and stuff you can farm in the open world + events... Out of the 4 special banner characters I've pulled, I also got 3 of their signature weapons. I wouldn't consider R1 signature weapons P2W at all.

[@AstraLux-y2d]

maybe he paid to win the sig

[@Luvanweed]

Gachas are p2w yes.

[@abhijitmohan9951]

Now do one with verdant summit vs age of harvest pls 🥲

[@rxceed]

Same, Verdant Summit is what I also use on my Jinhsi... LOL... Since 1.1...

[@abhijitmohan9951]

@rxceed how is she doing with it, clearing toa with it?

[@rxceed]

@@abhijitmohan9951 Yeah, I have 30 crest ToA since September... At that time, my DPS are only Jinhsi and Jiyan and Yao...

[@abhijitmohan9951]

@rxceed how much dmg does she do with verdant summit

[@rxceed]

@@abhijitmohan9951 Right now, with my build, up to 380-400k... Maybe due to the ToA buff...

[@ЕкатеринаМишина-щ2ы]

skil BONUS UP

[@uchihamadara11-0]

Got her And Her Sig in 50 pulls lol

[@CorneliaFlatcher]

not critical 😂🎉

[@OMIGOSHTHISISSTUPID]

When I read "F2P vs P2W - Weapon Comparison" I'm expecting to see R1 weapon vs R5 weapon at minimum. If you don't consider S0 characters P2W then how could you consider R1 weapons P2W? (When you first start the game, you can literally farm hundreds of pulls worth of astrite from in-game content/events alone.) You're just comparing one F2P choice to a different F2P choice here. Standard vs Signature Weapon Comparison would be a more accurate title.

[@farhangp2552]

Dude 50/50 is exist on character banners I never win from day 1 And almost all of my dps is using 4* Even my Carlotta using some random ass sr gun and her dmg is suck af I can't even clear the tower cause my dmg is suck AF Compared with other games, wuwa is the most demanding when it comes to weapon banner