JJ rants about Pravin Gordhan, Thabo Mbeki, and the Bela Act

[@marabunya]

We're so lucky to have Prof. Tabane headlining our prime time news space. He is so blunt, bold and honest without fear or favour.

[@christianlnair9274]

What an uncredibly balanced perspective... Well Done Prof

[@sdonagmac2293]

He died without explaining WHY Ketso Gordhan (his nephew) was awarded SAA contracts while Pravin was minister of Public Enterprises and when he was minister of Finance. In those 2 portfolios, he literally presided over SAA and his nephew got contracts. Ketso continued to get IPP contracts at Eskom just before the pandemic and Pravin was presiding over Eskom. That’s exactly how I will personally remember Pravin.

[@lebogangmashiane6692]

Yoh😮

[@hrhprincessfifymo9037]

Le nna🤞

[@MlokothoLanga8]

Very true

[@tshepoivan4782]

Are you saying Gordhan was able to override Dudu Myeni at SAA?

[@Sihawukelwe]

😂😂😂

[@tqntuli2677]

I love this man's honesty. He just speaks the truth as he feels without fear. 👌💯

[@msanembongeleni]

@@tqntuli2677 he is bias

[@tristanmay4948]

​@msanembongeleni how is he biased?

[@BalesengMoroke-i4f]

You talking hogwash wena,you just being vitupirative.​@@msanembongeleni

[@ignatiusdumbura5218]

This guy whant to be famous that's all he talking nonsense

[@LinemediaStudioprinting]

Why is raising this issue while the family is mourning.Please give Mr Gordhan family 3 months mourning respect his family.

[@justyouraverageguy9103]

Finally someone who won't hide behind the sentiment of "Don't disrespect the dead" .

[@roberthiine5501]

A lot of respect to you JJ, well said bro.

[@HarwardMbonxa]

No crocodile tears for Pravin.

[@RivaashK]

He stopped your cic from looting

[@mphumezinkumbesi2959]

....for his own benefits

[@MlokothoLanga8]

Yeboo he was the typical person you could expect, no wonder Idi Amin chased some folks

[@TheCitizn]

Good analysis on PG. FACTS - He did we'll at SARS, Finance Ministry, Fighting state capture. But failed dismally at Public Enterprise.

[@TaLish113]

He never fought but pretended to fight state capture that is continuing unabated

[@Ntuthu-ZA]

You would think differently if you had ever encountered him at close quarters. He undermined black people. He found me chatting with some important American people at a conference organised by our government. Walked up to us, read my name tag, completely ignoring me other than that, then broke into our conversation addressing the yte Americans only, without even a nod in my direction. The Americans were so embarrassed they quickly made excuses about returning to their seats and walked away. He immediately followed them to his seat which was in the same area as theirs. That’s just one example.

[@MrEvansjethro]

Ezekiel 18:24 : But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.

[@xolilekhumalo1615]

Klein, he did well at SARS but was terrible at Finance Ministry. Go look at the Budgets from 2009 to 2014: that is when the deficit worsened. I agree that coming out of the 2008 financial crisis governments needed to spend but as FM you need to guard the deficit, if it is being spent on consumption rather than fixed capital formation.

[@TheCitizn]

@@xolilekhumalo1615 I concede to your very valid point regarding 2009 to 2014

[@manqobageneralmhlongo2419]

💯 my favourite TV presenter ❤❤❤# nothing but the truth.

[@MohauNtaopane]

I am so grateful for Dr JJ Tabane

[@fego2361]

Enormous respect JJ , thank you Sir

[@KaoMohomane]

We were oppressed as a “RACE not “CLASS”him being a pharmacist doesn’t mean he was immune from apartheid contagious..We were affected,all of us,irrespective of even disability..how cruel was apartheid...

[@tshenolomokoka4171]

Love you Bra JJ u truly are one of da Best we need more people like u in our communities especially on the Public eye

[@MagagulaMF]

This guy is brutally honest 👌🏾

[@edwinndwakhuluramabulana4174]

Well articulated Prof Tabane..

[@Ish_Izzo]

Excellently articulated Prof, balanced view 👏

[@stuckinmyroom1210]

May heaven welcome him. Akaye!!!

[@nkosinathingcobo8053]

We don't go with things of this world but we go because of Jesus if believe he died and rose again and follow his word s that teaches how to live life of holiness then you go to heaven of God

[@bertramfuscher]

​@@nkosinathingcobo8053amen

[@monkisethojane2218]

I knew him Pravin recently because of the SOE. I really need to get my facts straight about people before I judge them..

[@Angela-pj9ed]

Well said respect to u

[@Villa_Sfisaw]

His legacy & those who liberated me never went to exile,I believe those who fought the old regime inside & died are the ones who sacrificed their lives for me.Pravin is a professional politician not a revolutionary politicians what has he done,show us things he has done for South Africa,his legacy is in business that his family will benefit. I personally won't remember him,may his soul rest in peace

[@LebohangMohlakoana]

👏👏👏👏👏👏 you are our voice JJ Tabane

[@RK-ln6kg]

Well done JJ for speaking against those who threw stones at PG.

[@sazinisibiya9603]

JJ Tabane ❤❤❤❤❤

[@bandilemichaelncoyini9179]

You are such a blessing.

[@ThembaNhlapo-le4rq]

I love how Prof tackles the truth for what it is 😂 Let truth be told ,though heavens may fall,,,,he was not all that great Prof i agree with you Sir

[@gonachetty2535]

Well done JJ You speaking the truth my brother😊😊😊

[@pranks1457]

The Bela Bill is not about language, it is about taking the last of the excellent schooling and lowering it to the appalling standards the ANC has brought Public education too.

[@patco101]

Thanks JJ before this I didn't know what was going on or which opinion to hold up.

[@tiehomothibe9809]

The background music is just unnecessary though, it makes it hard to concentrate on the content delivered.

[@mariaqumayo9442]

luckily the stopped playing it eventually

[@MrEvansjethro]

Ezekiel 18:24 : But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.

[@manyananihlwatika726]

Mbeki was ahead of ANC and South Africa while he was president

[@Mpho-j3f]

Mbeki was never for the people. He was for the market's.

[@MzamoAdoons372]

1000 km ahead

[@MzamoAdoons372]

​@@Mpho-j3fin your wet dreams

[@28stretch]

​@@Mpho-j3fhow was that not good for the people????? What point are you making?

[@ngwzi5229]

He was a mess too. The entire ANC including Mandela

[@maxwellluningo2582]

Love the honesty

[@Babazulu]

He’s speaking the truth

[@thabodlamini9306]

If there is anything you said, that I agree with is that ANC is lucky to have someone like Mbeki still leaving in this crisis time the ANC is facing. Anyway, the truth is Renew or Die. Finish and Klaar.

[@monwabisimsutu917]

JJ The Man I like the way you analize these mater especial the Bella bill we need that to be implemented all the schools

[@lavidaNOTA]

He was very proud of his tenure at public enterprises, the cost of his arrogance on ordinary lives warrants the criticism, no whitewashing this JJ!

[@emmanuelphakathi-gd9zc]

THank you Proff

[@NzimaNdhlovu-ux8pj]

Our problem is Government is allowing this crime to go on and is painful because the ANC don't feel bad by doing this thing and even those who got those documents are fake documents from Government officials who are doing this nonsense

[@mphomashegoane200]

ITS ABOUT HOW YOU END A RACE NOT HOW YOU START…

[@jezuschrist7120]

In another words he died a traitor...

[@junior.jonase]

Kudos to Cyril Ramaphosa for signing BELA bill. Ramaphosa is a negotiator. I think his strength is there. He was not scared of forging ahead to sign BELA bill even after DA's noise on BELA bill.

[@realdudevision2746]

Bela Bill will do nothing for vanacular languages. Afrikaans schools will be replaced with english schools, deep down we know it. As black people, we must just be honest and say we are fighting for English😅

[@FutBrix1096]

Fighting to disrupt the Afrikaans speaking community by any means neccessary.. Hogging every lever and space in this country.. Using the Afrikaans speaking community As crunches to Lean ON.. Ride the gravy train of functioning institutions of education and ruin them.. Because black people cant do it themselves... If Black people can do it.. They must show it... Build functional languages that can translate into the industry.. But Black people cant.. So to take a short cut.. Wait for the Afrikaans speaking community to build these instituitions and then want to be included(claiming public interest) .. Take them over and ruin them.. Look at Forthare....majority of black schools disfunctional.. In every sphere.

[@Missk1516]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@aarongunnz9513]

They dirt it after changing it English

[@MzamoAdoons372]

👊👊👊👊

[@tshidisomoraka8861]

At least the English a subtle in their racism unlike the Boers. And besides English is a globally used language Afrikaans is only used in SA.

[@wilsonmetsing2243]

JJ Tabane you do what you are paid for

[@TheRuralDwellersPodcast]

Power to truth✊🏿

[@paulmachanyana9088]

Dankie Bra JJ

[@desoxx]

JJ you've only zoned in on one aspect of the Bela bill and using that to endorse it in its entirety including the flawed aspects.. The department of education is struggling with a shortage of skilled teachers and there currently many vacant teacher positions even though the system is producing more than enough teachers annually, so what's happening there? The Gauteng government has just cut the education budget by over R4Billion for the 2024/2025 financial year, at the same time, the Bela bill says Grade R should be compulsory (which is good) but that alone will require an additional R12Billion! This doesn't make any sense at all! Some aspects of the bill are indeed great as you've highlighted but some aspects were not supposed to have been included, at least not until the government has the capacity and resources for those other clauses in the bill.

[@serioustalkwithbhudax]

You will love this man today but hate him tomorrow. All love to you Sir.

[@makimomoo]

Some fair comment on Pravin. But let’s be realistic. When he took over the SOE’’s. They were already a sink hole, all of them. When you have a business like transnet that procures trains that can’t fit on the South African rail tracks what do you? People expected miracles from him when there were sea of hyenas around the hyenas. When you have a ceo of Eskom that focussed on writing a book in the three years he was employed. What do you do. cEOs that don’t do their job. And you expect a minister to resolve the problems. Country, please not be stupid in mass. But we are.our stupidly killed him.

[@eliasmotomboti2907]

The procured trains are in operational now. Which trains are you talking about?

[@dilochetty9332]

@@eliasmotomboti2907 nonsense.. their is a request to have the trains back so they can be used on shorter routes which may work..

[@mtetelelimrwetyana2002]

Truth is good, I fully agree with you

[@marabunya]

What your explanation for Pravin attempting to sell SAA for R51 and then rushing to seal all documents that pertain to that deal so that you, the tax payer could never find out why he chose to sell the SOE for R51?

[@dilochetty9332]

@marabunya you and I pumped 50 billions into saa in past 15 years to keep paying for corruption of dudu myeni and others.. do u prefer to pump another 50 billion into saa? Money that could hav build 1 million houses? So when u say sold for r51, you must also give the context and history, but with 30% education, many cannot think past ter nose.. and it was not r51, their were condition like takatso had to put 2 million into saa as working capital.. pravin was doing the country a favor buy getin rid of somtin that was draining our tax money. It's only when pvt sector was running saa did we start seeing a turn around.. excess dead weight in terms of staff were fired and it started operating like a business, not a looting vehicle that it was..once that happened, suddenly the past rot was forgotten, and pravin became the bad guy

[@adolfmudau9956]

I love Bela bill for the Language issue big time 😂😂😂

[@kgomotsomaepa7846]

illegal immigrant children won't need documents for schools and you can't deport parents of a child in school? The worst people who will affected are Black South Africans' kids who will be squashed like sardines in classrooms, you'll see after the futsek makgowa euphoria wears off.

[@jeffpillay777]

Very Fair JJ

[@mkhumbuzibiko5706]

Thank you JJ Tabane truth well spoken mhlekazi

[@agenech1239]

Thanks Pro

[@siyabongandela6622]

I like ur truth uncle JJ

[@rickbrentletoit7987]

Well said sir👌

[@sahngcobo]

Very well put

[@IvanJacobs-y8r]

TRUELY SAID ,

[@shane-uk7on]

Well done, JJ doors are still opened in the ANC

[@WillamShauke]

U will remember him because your starmach is full .we never have free Dom . Is not possible to have freedom of speech with empty starmach

[@MlokothoLanga8]

Personally, yiu were very fair and balanced approach the matter

[@TimWhite-xq3pk]

Black Africans generally speak English as a home language. Mother tongue education is also not something new. In fact James Henderson (Lovedale's third principal) was advocating it in the 1930s. So JJ get your historical facts straight instead of perpetuating myths!!

[@SpokoSpoko-x5s]

With the crooks on top, who'll look for the crooks beneath?

[@dimphophysio8589]

Indeed, he was only human . You cannot be perfect

[@JonathanMokaba]

True at least JJ makes sense unlike his friend Oom Trevor

[@naze1266]

How many schools did anc govt build over 30yrs. Now small black kids must travel every day in grandfather's bakkie to other areas that dont have a black language. Who is to blame? not the DA

[@normanzwane1985]

if the ANC had tried to build infrastructure at the same rate as the NATS did after 1948, they'd had fractured on who of them would get the lion's share. Their own greed was their biggest undoing.

[@sandilemntungwa1538]

It's a big lie Eskom,SAA was not failing all those institutions mentioned began to fail after Pravin took over.

[@obakengkgopa6655]

Please drop the music in this segment.

[@junior.jonase]

Truth does not kill. Be blunt as you are JJ. I like how you are. PG stood against corruption. He was a corruption buster. However, his role in SOEs was indeed a mess.

[@keagsinthemix]

Jj is the best hands down

[@Nongwadla]

Jonnas Gwanga in the background, thats nice 😊

[@alexhlatshwayo3222]

JJ The fundamental question for me,is whether what he did as Minister of Trade and Industry,was deliberate or not?There is a difference between making a mistake and doing wrong deliberately, for reasons best known only to you.

[@musajohannessithole8970]

Pravin may have participated in the struggle, but he did not belive in the original ideologies of the ANC. They played a role in stalling RDP and introduced GEAR which dismally failed. Anyone going back to the critics of GEAR when it was introduced, will realize that high inequality, high unemployment, high interest rates, abject poverty, financially orientated state, rampant corruption, and collapse of State Institutions are the consequences of GEAR. SAn masses who rendered the Appartheid regime ungovernable, those who matched, those who were beaten and shot at, are the ones who played critical role iin the struggle. The role of some leaders are exaggerated.

[@gerritkruger4014]

Klomp twak. Geen feite, verwysings om enige van die stellings te staaf nie. Kannie glo ENCA laat hierdie toe om as nuus uitgesaai te word nie.

[@masekoromeo7919]

PROF yamasimba what did you do in the liberation struggle of Mzansi?

[@normanzwane1985]

Wena @masekoromeo7919 uzogcina ngokuba u Pro ebholeni lasestradeni only. Nobody became a Prof because of their role in the struggle for liberation.

[@caesar3909]

The media freedom in South Africa is insane & we take it for granted😂😂 In most parts of the world you cannot criticize & speak against government like this without going missing...I agree with JJ, South Africa has not had a President since Thabo Mbeki.

[@hermanhashe]

For me mbeki is nothing but a selfish pompous individual. Under his watch 3000 people died from aids. He don't care. He also wanted to overstay his Wellcome as ANC leader.

[@tutotutot5193]

wena you are still colonised....you need to apologise to your grandmother to remove the curse. His questions are still true today.

[@kungawombabala9314]

300000 my brother

[@leratomangena514]

Mbeki has never infected anyone with Aids.

[@kennethlahoud3632]

None of them care they only for themselves and what they can take from the citizens of SA

[@HarriSingh-om1rj]

I think we are all forgetting that PG took over Public Enterprise after it was hollowed, looted and pilfered by Zuma and his cronies.

[@keagsinthemix]

Mbeki’s wife is a Billionaire

[@TsekoMofokeng-v2o]

ANC messed up. Not long go,they wanted to introduce language called Sehwahili foreign language. I was shocked. Our African languages are dying under ANC government. Why celebrate heritage day then?

[@tmanjivo]

Yeah Gordhan fought that former Eskom CEO for exposing corruption at the state owned company and I believe it was him who said " let other people eat". As much as he fought state capture but he ended up being corrupt or immoral, tried to sell SAA but refused to divulged details of the sale to the public until the transaction was strapped

[@siphilangayematsenjwa2171]

SARS under Moyane was thriving more than Gordhan with a 1trillion rand collection and clean audits.

[@Aluande]

Moyane?????

[@lee7973]

The ground work was already done...Moyane was a rogue😂

[@sheepstone2648]

This kind of Journalism is Nice. It's like let me get it off my chest. Cool? Cool.

[@frederickngwenya4082]

If you talk about equality of all of our languages then afrikaans wins. English must remain the medium of instructions even in parliament to prevent the unnecessary drama that we are witnessing

[@sibsmabura8935]

I actually would have been surprised if PG did not have detractors. Nobody is a Saint in this world. Even Mandela was criticised by some quarters after he passed on to prove that he was a human being and he made mistakes along the way. So PG was just a human being like the rest of us who are still waiting for our D Day. MHSRIP💔

[@dilochetty9332]

im not buying this bela thing .. my question is, why always wanting to take away something that works when others you are in charge of dont work? same with nhi, cannot fix public hospitals but what to take over the private ones.. if som1 works hard and can afford pvt care, what is the problem? government should be using our tax money to get public hospitals to function lik pvt hospitals.. their are schools in kzn which use zulu as main language. their are schools in eastern cape that use xhosa.. so are they also goin to be forced to change ? its nonsensical and does not solve any problem.. if you dont speak afrikaans, go to a school which u are comfortable with.. we dont see english speakers or afrikaans speakers fighting to go to zulu speaking schools.. how come? JJ, the focus should be on changing those poor schools into the same standard as the afrikaans schools.. u cannot blame them for governments failures.. governments hav taken our tax money for 30 years..please show us the success stories when it comes to schools and hospitals in past 30 years? by now we should have had no poor hospitals.. who do u blame for the looting ? are afrikaaners or som1 to blame?

[@parismashile6081]

8THE GOOD THAT MEN DO LIVES AFTER THEM; THE EVIL IS OFT INTERRED WITH THEIR BONES.

[@ayandazulu8014]

LoL UKZN medical school confirmed that PG didn’t have a degree in medicine 🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@ZodwaMfuphi-bf3sg]

of course but he was a pharmacist by profession

[@saneledlamini4210]

I like your analysis bcs it realistic n I think the sad truth is politicians shade each other whenever one drops the ball n that what Pravin did n for that he became a face of privatization however as for ANC's renewal,it will be futile if the Phala Phala man is still the head as this remain the biggest scandal that is clouding the ANC.

[@PONTSHOSEEMANE-r1v]

He had his own state capture going on on his side.

[@cheryllinlouw51]

Jj is back on enca

[@bhekanibheki5341]

He never left, he was on leave.

[@stanleynkosikamthembu168]

Can one or two actions sully, despoil, erase, devalue the heroic legacy of a struggle hero? And I ask this question not restricted to the South African context but internationally. in my view I believe a single action can belittle the legacy of a political liberator. Secondly, is it fair to separate the legacy of a struggle hero from that of a public servant after 'victory'?

[@bubelevakalisa7313]

When Pravin Gordhan's UDF participation is narrated by the myth makers, one could be forgiven to believe that Gordhan is actually the resurrected Archie Gumede - founder-member (from the then Natal) of the UDF, and subsequently that party's president. There seems to be this concerted zeal to over-inflate his UDF years, artificially raising his activism to the highest levels of valour. In the military, they would say this was "stolen valour" by the narrators on his behalf. JJ is correct to separate Gordhan's record as an activist from that of him as a politician. As an activist, however, as admirable that activism was, he must not be fashioned into something akin to what someone like Archie Gumede was in the UDF!

[@renierchristiaan9348]

They have no rank class or standing in this dimension or the next.

[@normankhumalo5603]

JJ Tabane my friend you tried but on this one you've drawn a blank. We're talking here about a person who was a public figure. You cannot dictate how people must feel about Pravin Sorry.

[@tshabalala7]

He’s expressing his feelings wtf

[@MotlokwaThwii]

It's JJ's rant. His own views and opinions. Not a dictatorship on how people must feel. You're the one drawing blanks.

[@thandimasilela8947]

U are expressing your feelings and you want us to buy your story

[@la-juanpersens7313]

Nope he is expressing his personal opinion on the life of Pravin both the positive and the negative.

[@normanzwane1985]

Just in case you did not get the memo: the worst haters of PG are cadres who he thwarted from getting their 'pound of flesh' of the fiscus. Till their dying days PG stands no better than all Capitalists combined. We are sort of catching up with the ANC.

[@ManofsteelZA]

"Rants" is not the appropriate description

[@boitumelodilapiso2294]

2 to 3 take everything beautiful about him ,now we remember bad things about him ,he destroyed our BlackChild at SAA

[@eneamotaung1493]

JJ Rants! Everyone in this c SA is free to have their own opinions an you are saying that yourself. Everyone has a good and a bad side. If people see different things in them. Don't critic fhe person but their activities as long as they character especially when they are consciously knowing it. Enea Motaung. S Johannesburg. Gauteng Province.

[@musagumede4823]

" the DA must go away !" LOL

[@MBReader410]

The SOEs were already broken.

[@brianrudd8021]

I totally disagree with the comments that this gentleman is making about Pravin Gordan in this particular space,obviously in all his genuine endeavours to rid us of the element of corruption there would be agents who's original aim was always to make it look like he was a sell out ,but unfortunately for them he's legacy proves them so ashamedly wrong.