Easy and Cheap Awning Setup On a 4Runner

[@jeroenthijssen4719]

The suction cup is really a new thing to me. Thanks for posting! I have another solution fro the poles however i use the poles you use for painting with a roller $7 each. just put a pencil in the top hole and the grommit.

[@thechampagneroom1]

Good call on the noise level of the tarps. That is something you don't relies until it wakes you up at night.

[@rayc76knoxville]

Genius! Just got a 4Runner and looking for some adventure. Your solution isn't just economical; it's also very efficient for saving space. Thank you for sharing - God Bless.

[@ramiroarellanojr.4852]

I think it's a great idea, I just bought a 4runner and I will definitely use your idea. Good Job!

[@elderhiker7787]

Yep. My suction cups arrived yesterday and now I’m ready to go. Thanks for the tips. This is a super idea, is very flexible, and inexpensive. What’s not to like?

[@martytimour2572]

Hi Jay, great video. Thanks for sharing. As a suggestion for your suction cups, you might consider attaching them to your windshield and rear window. The cups are not likely to damage the glass and if they leave a little mess, that should clean off easily with glass cleaner. Just an idea.

[@meljane8339]

But, like Jay Wanders Out said, it would then rub the top of the door on the tarp, spilling rain when it does. ... Maybe a modification to that concept, like an offset cone or a tube around the sup cup leash, would mediate excellently. There is this wrap stuff called "Body Guard" that is supposed to protect the paint of scratches and micro-dings, adhering that might be a more permanent application for protecting attachment points on the body, ...or applying extra wax, or a silicone-based protectant?

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

Just got a new Honda Pilot and was pondering my awning options. The suction cups a brilliant! I might give this setup a whirl. Thx!

[@JayWandersOut]

Thanks. It won't hold up to as strong a winds as the mounted ones but it works quite well for me. When it's mildy windy I always park with the other side into the wind.

[@ReeWrayOutdoors]

@@JayWandersOut got all the parts in a few day ago and did a test setup. Seems very stable to me! Oh, even though that brown/silver tarp doesn't seem to be available on homedepot.com, I did find it in my local store. Very well made and low cost. Thanks again!

[@tanakax25]

Over a year ago I came across your video about wide hiking shoes awhile ago and now I'm wearing the Asics Gel Venture 9s now. Decent so far, maybe got a half size too big and still might try some Atlras soon. And now I recently found myself thinking "I want a roof rack awning but I wouldn't use it often enough to justify a dedicated roll out" and I had a similar idea as you using a tarp, poles, and lines. Crazy to see you pop up in my search for examples of that on KZbin! It's kinda nuts, I feel like you're an alternate version of myself living a few years in the future 😅

[@dood1954]

Bought the parts as shown, have used it several times. Works great! Easy on the wallet too. Thanks for the heads up.

[@JayWandersOut]

You're welcome! I still use the same system and used it a couple of weeks ago for some rain.

[@FeelsOnWheels]

Very nice video..thanks for informing about the quality and size of tarp..I mistakingly purchased 10x12 feet tarp which I could not fix on my car..suction cups is a best idea indeed👍

[@mcake1234]

Great idea suction cups. Thank you.

[@davedunn2239]

Hi Jay. Great setup. Got everything bought and set it up today. It was perfect. Thanks so much!!!

[@TonyCuti-xw5vg]

Nice Jay gotta link other that tarp from home depot for the other parts

[@murphtahoe1]

Looks like a great inexpensive set-up!

[@theresedignard4267]

Great set up. At dog shows we use shade cloth. Would work great with your set up. I like this suction cup idea. I was using cow gutt magnets. ;)

[@theresedignard4267]

Hey, aren’t you out on the trail? I am binging on your camp adventures and tips. Safe trekking.

[@jackiealvarez4958]

Thanks for sharing your ideas

[@josephjackson5330]

Hi you could buy some dark gray fablon , cut yourself two patches out to place where you're going to use your pads .to remove fablon use a hair dryer then wd40 to resolve any sticky residue.

[@SarasotaTim]

Nice setup brother! thanks for the video I watched it several times I seem to see a lot of bad reviews about those suction cups where they don’t hold? I have a factory rack I was hoping I could just tie it to that. Also on a sidenote what kind of lift do you have on that bad boy. I’ve got a stock 2021 SR 😎

[@JayWandersOut]

I suspect some of the bad reviewers forgot to remove the thin plastic film from them. With the film it will stick but maybe 10% of power. Right now I have Bilstein shocks in front and back. The front also has a 3" front spacer and the rear have OME 2896, the 660lbs one. I don't intend to do any serious rock crawling so I didn't need the articulation so the spacers will work. The rear coils I needed because of all the weight of everything in back. With the lift I was able to get 285 70R17 Cooper Discoverer XLT tires on which only occasionally rubs in the front if I'm turning while going up or down.

[@SarasotaTim]

@@JayWandersOut thanks for the get back… yeah she’s bad ass for sure. I wish I didn’t have the low front end and it was lifted a little for looks alone but damn any and all lifts are so expensive. Your junk is tits and so is the color. Check my video conquering Hills revenge in a stock 2021 4runner SR5 on KZbin. 🤙 Today I was in Walmart and was looking at tarps to do the awning but didn’t buy it. After your remarks about people not removing the film from the cups I’ll order them and give this a try. Thanks for answering my comment. 😎

[@jettereq272]

Thanks for sharing. smart, easy, economical.

[@JayWandersOut]

Thanks. It's been working for me so I was happy to share.

[@jayceewedmak9524]

Thank you 😊

[@Sugbuanon87]

thanks for sharing. where did you buy those suction cups & does ir come with hooks? thanks.

[@Everywheresydney]

리뷰 잘봤습니다.. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@elgoogsucks9005]

Thanks for sharing.

[@Bandolero456]

What are you using for your wireless mic in this video? The sound is just excellent.

[@JayWandersOut]

I used a PowerDeWise lavalier mic which came with a huge extension cable. It wasn't easy at times since I kept almost tripping over it but it gives one consistent audio levels than a boom mic and isn't as expensive as a wireless. amzn.to/2EEwqLd

[@e_thegod5303]

I looked at the reviews for the suction cups and why do some have adhesive and yours don't ?? that deterred me from buying them.

[@JayWandersOut]

I wouldn't want any type of adhesive though. If it works out for you though that's good. Just never drop any of those though otherwise it will be rock central.

[@eto2352]

What model Thule box is that? Do you like it?

[@JayWandersOut]

It's a Thule Force XT Sport. The bigger one would definitely have been more ideal but I needed roof top space for the solar panel. One thing I learned is that the bottom is very uneven so it holds soft things very well like extra clothes, my backpacking gear, miscellaneous bags, blankets, and sleeping bag. Hard items use up more space because of that uneven bottom. I'll probably put a blanket below my folding kayak to fill up the gaps.

[@eto2352]

@@JayWandersOut Thanks Jay! I had not considered the internal corrugation on the floor taking up space. All the cargo containers look so massively tall but that one seems to look alright on yours. I think yours or the L, slightly wider, might do the trick for me. Thanks!

[@smithgov]

Watched about 10 videos before this one but all seemed awkward. Your idea is the one I am going with! Simple and when you take the tarp down all the ugly hardware is gone. Thank you and well done!

[@zman92630]

You captured exactly what I had envisioned in my mind. Pulling the trigger and saying NO to expensive awnings! Thanks Jay

[@ruizpaul642]

I'm glad I saw this video. I'm going to go this route rather than getting a real awning . I like how the put away is really simple thanks for the video

[@Rasher1974]

Add a small patch of clear adhesive film to each area for suction cup to protect paintwork, when you want to remove same use a hairdryer to remove, works fine, great video.

[@chalion8399]

This seems like a good idea, since I was worried about that too. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@FOZ23]

Great idea.. ppf is pretty cheap

[@SidneyKo]

When you use the poles with the pointy end through the grommet, use the caps to keep them in place. Just in case you get that upward wind. Super simple, great video.

[@JayWandersOut]

Yep, I've been placing the cap on most times largely in case the poles fell towards the car that cap would protect the car.

[@rayngrace]

Adjustable bungee cords is what I found works for holding the tarp, anchored on the roof rack. Thanks

[@jonagreyphoto]

Amazing! I was deep down a KZbin hole checking out DIY awning ideas and none I saw had the suction cup idea I was thinking of! So much more simpler than drilling, mounting, etc a heavy, long ass bar on the roof racks. I’ll try this out, thank you!

[@JayWandersOut]

I like that when not using it nothing is visible. The more it looks like a normal car the easier it is to stealth camp in a pinch.

[@SarasotaTim]

I have a 5th Gen 4Runner too and I just purchased the Green Elephant telescoping poles to set up a awning also. Don’t have the suction cups however. I’ll try to work around that and use the basket rack itself but may end up buying them too. When the awning is set up it changes the whole feel of camping vs parked out in the middle of nowhere with just your vehicle doesn’t it. 😎🤙

[@gunznknives]

The suction cups are a great idea. You should know that on a super windy day, those plastic hooks can start to bounce and beat the metal, causing a dent on the roof. Think about wrapping foam or cloth around the clips. I had a plastic bungee hook tiedown hooked onto a tarp on my truck. The buffeting wind made the hook bounce so hard on the tailgate it left a dent. But I was driving at the time. Just something to consider.

[@arkreynoldsa]

Nice job. I watched many videos on awnings but none applied completely with my need for an awning that didn't have to be permanent. I didn't want to drill holes into my van and your idea of using the suction cups was a great solution! Thanks!

[@GF-pc5bt]

I like it. You are well spoken and easy to listen to. Good job buddy !

[@Paradisegirl58]

I use painter poles put from Walmart and added screws at the top to attach the grommets. Poles are about $12 a piece

[@ayietoledo3444]

pics? tnx

[@Oneklickmedia]

Excellent, got less than a week for camping and I was thinking alternative hack so this helps!

[@ljaysperspective1775]

I used to detail cars for a living and i worked at a large dealership at one point in addition to small shops along the way. I say that because of the suction cups. They will not provoke any issues or harm ur clear coat in any way,.Just wash ur suv and perhaps hand wax the areas were the suction cups are being applied just to keep up with the paint. Considering oxidation (Oxidation creates an ugly faded burnt apearance on the surface of the paint) will always effect the 3- tops on a car, hood, roof and trunk lid as they are the most exposed to the elements, on an SUV it will obviously effect only 2- areas hood and roof. It's so vital if u luv ur car to clean or treat the surface, this will also help the suction cups attach and hold better and slide less under stress should the wind pick up. Enjoyed ur vid another good economical diy project. Good stuff thx for sharing👍

[@JayWandersOut]

Thanks for the info! Very good information indeed. I really have to clean my car more especially like you said in the key places.

[@ljaysperspective1775]

@@JayWandersOut definitely whether you intend to keep or sell ur car its worth doing. It will maintain the value of ur car and it will continue looking good. Take care Jay.👍

[@FOZ23]

You can also just use a single suction cup on the sun roof glass and then put a zip tie on roof rail. It will be a little janky but it will get the job done.

[@dragan3290]

Exactly what I needed to see as I'm planning on using this setup for working in my engine bay in the sun. You make it look easy. Top job. Cheers from Australia subbed and liked 👍

[@michwenz8413]

The suction cups are a good idea. Someone suggested fishing magnets (really strong magnets with eye bolts threaded into it) because I don’t have a roof rack. But I worry about them scratching, or my not being strong enough to get them off haha. Also someone else said harbor freight has telescoping painters poles for $8 but I’m not sure if the threading will fit in the grommet. Definitely worth looking in to though because they could be easily modified. I think I’m going to go off the back of my Jeep and have the sides go to the ground so I have a sort of privacy tunnel since I’m going solo. Lots of great ideas in the comments sections passing on here. Safe travels 🚗🏕

[@chrisgraham2904]

The painter poles usually have a plastic threaded fitting to screw into the paint roller handle. On the one's I purchased the plastic threaded tip was about 2-1/2" long solid plastic swagged into the aluminum pole shaft. I just drilled the end of the plastic fitting and inserted a pin made from a 3/8" diameter framing nail. Has worked great for about 15 camping events so far.

[@ronaldrose7593]

Hello Jay, that was a great set up. Thank you for sharing. All the best to you. Stay healthy. 🤗

[@rolandandSamm11]

Nice, easy. Affordable set up!. Level 100

[@Playitagaindian]

I used this method and LOVE it!!! Thank you so much for this tutorial. 👍🏻

[@nomadicana]

If your poles are long enough, I wonder if you could also attach suction cups to the feet of your poles and have the bottom of your pole attach to the side of the vehicle rather than the ground (like some electric awnings on RVs). That could be useful in certain terrain or if there were some obstacle to pole or line placement.

[@JayWandersOut]

That's some nice out of the box thinking! True, there have been times I'd be in a bush trying to stake down an end.... I guess if I bring the pole bases down parallel to the tarp and still stake out the guy lines to stretch out the front it could work well. Before sleeping I could also lower the poles to create a lower front end to let water run off. I'll have to play with that idea someday! I think my only concern would be the strength of the suction cups but it could work. I may also get 2 more suction cups and use a tiny segment of 550 chord to reinforce the other 2. Thanks for the idea!

[@the_original_skytiger]

You didn't say where you got the freaking suction cups.

[@JayWandersOut]

Amazon. I have links on the description below the video.

[@nchia]

Friggin’… BRILLIANT! I’d probably use it once or twice a year, so this is perfect. I watched a few DIY awning videos too, and can imagine them going 🙄. 🤣

[@MarmaladeOutdoors]

Jay thank you so much for making this video and being so clear and detailed. I will be buying all throng things from your links for my suv. Clicked on the tarp and right away it said it’s unavailable. Do you want to find a new link that works or would I find it by going into Home Depot? I want you to get the commission though. Haven’t checked the other two links there but hope those come up

[@JayWandersOut]

Thanks! That link for the tarp wasn't an affiliate link. For my car a 6x8 worked perfectly, usually with the 6' side against the car. You would have to adjust depending on the length of your car. Fortunately there are a variety of sizes of cheap tarps at Home Depot so you can see what size works for you. I do really like the silver on one side though since I seem to use it more for shade than for rain. I was trying to figure out a way to use 2 suction cups on each end for additional support maybe with a piece of shock chord connecting to the tarp to absorb wind better... I'll give it a try someday.

[@BadlukBikerChick]

Thank you!! I was going to buy an awning but this is cheaper and actually a better solution. Packs away better and more options on size. Rock on! 🤘

[@ChesterLeeArmstrong]

😂I am giving it a shot on my Toyota sienna awd BUSGUS with a fairly wide inno top carrier . Wi have to figure out where to stick the suction cn. I will figure it out. This set up should be fine for light duty keeping cooler or shaded. Thank for the video and suggedtions.

[@karenalbrecht3480]

Horrible add before your video!!!!!! Jim Crow 2.0???? This is TERRIBLE and FALSE.

[@rogerholland98]

This was a very helpful video for me! It answered all my questions and gave me a great way to make an inexpensive, but high-quality awning for my van. Thank you so much for sharing this!

[@christophervela5447]

I made a diy rod for our tarp....went through all that and few months back saw these similar cups on Amazon.. I use 3 suction cups and two extendable poles like yours.... They work nicely

[@zalkona5051]

I think a little chunk of sliced in half pool noodle under the suction cup hardware can offer some protection from the wind banging it against your paint and causing damage. The suction cups are great but are a bit hard to get off.

[@TinyLiving]

Well, you've gone & done it...made a subscriber outta me! Sweet set up! Thanks!

[@MichaelMartinNfldtoTexas]

This, to me, is the most practical set up I've seen. I'm going to order the same materials for mine.

[@sandrahdzgarcia2002]

This is perfect!

[@laughingboy9598]

Actually I would of covered the cargotop by bungee/ rope from other end as it gi es me additional.height from car door side& slope poles to run water off - this set up wouldnt.be.no.need for the.suction.cups although I do love them

[@maurocorrea1421]

Brilhante ideia, aqui no Brasil, não tinha nada parecido, vou hoje mesmo fazer igual, ganhou mais um seguidor.

[@hussamsawalmeh5311]

I just bought a new SUV ,Would the suction cups affect or damage the paint?,, pkease help

[@janemack1933]

That’s a beauty! Excellent idea - makes you wonder why such things cost so much! Good job, young man! 👏👏👏👏👏

[@JayWandersOut]

I guess to be fair those expensive ones will hold up to much stronger wind but I heard the UV eventually always does a number on the outer bags and I didn't have a good safe way to mount one to my roof rails. I do think many people get the big awnings though to make themselves stand out and look the part.

[@curtbrackenrich7883]

Really good and clear presentation, and I love the suction cups. I have a smooth fiberglass topper with no racks, and I've been struggling to figure out a way to attach a tarp to it. Suction cups are the perfect solution.

[@jasoncreed6396]

Love the awsome instructive narrative Jay,super great quality video

[@BigDukeX]

Nice, Jay. Everything there looks durable and functional. I like this solution. 👊😎

[@bonniewhite9180]

We’re told that in the comments below you’ve listed the name of these and where to get them. I didn’t catch it perhaps you could bring the packages up so we can see them and maybe take a screenshot very good idea I love it thanks

[@SarasotaTim]

You got a BIG lift on your 4Runner didn’t you. You got room for 33’s 😂

[@JayWandersOut]

About 2.5" front and 3" back. Nowadays I do have 33s, the Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT LT285 70R17 I believe.

[@WorthyBuzz]

Best review of the pros and cons of tarp! No noisy blue stuff keeping ME up all night! Thank you!

[@nj4x4fever2]

Thank you for posting this video. I am a hammock camper and I made myself a nice bug screen cover for my hammock called a fronkey style bug net. so I got to thinking how hard would it be to make a bug screen porch for an awning. Go to your local Walmart and look for mainstays brand sheer curtains, each pack of curtains cost about $4 and there are two panels in a pack. I suggest you buy the tallest set of these curtains. You will need about 4 packs total to create a nice protected screen porch from mosquitoes and other flying bugs. I hope this info helps. I am currently building my rear hatchback screened in area that I can attach with magnets. Your suction cup idea is a game changer for me because I did not want to mount an extension pole on my roof rack. I just bought 2 sets of the suction cups a total of 4. Make sure if anyone tries this method and to remove the plastic sheet on the suction cups. There is a plastic sheet to protect the cups from debris. They have to be removed or you will not get good suction.

[@JayWandersOut]

Good ideas. I've also encountered a problem where in Bighorn National Forest all these tiny green bugs kept landing on my bug screen so they'd get in when I pack things up. I have concentrated permethrin with me so I made a solution then soaked all the netting. Now no bugs ever sit on the netting for more than a second or so. Permethrin is magic. I've always treated my hiking clothes with it but I'll treat my netting regularly from now on. You're so right about the protective film on the suction cups. I hope everybody remembers to do that.

[@bangersandmags6729]

Have you tried attaching the suction cups to the back of the roof rack caps?

[@redensign9975]

👍

[@chriscorros3298]

thank you for sharing! worked flawlessly for me. I just started overlanding and I am slowly building my gear. eventually I will buy an ARB 2500 awning but for now I will settle for this set up. I showed your link to a couple of my friends and we did our awning this way. We had a bunch of people inquiring about your set up. thank you

[@JayWandersOut]

Nice, Chris! I've continued looking at ARB awnings but without installing a new roof rack it seems like most attachment methods aren't suitable for off roading. I'll probably just stick with this for a while to come since it all stows away out of sight. I only use it when it's going to rain or it's sunny anyway so it's convenient to have. It's also convenient because you can set it up on either side as you need at a particular time. I'm glad this helped you and your friends out!

[@joe2531007]

I just loved the suction cup tie downs. Solved a big problem for me. Many thanks for the idea.

[@joeworden825]

I'd use a retractable clothesline. You only need one pole to extend it and a tarp to create some cover.

[@sarawilder9463]

I did this on my Chevy Equinox and it worked perfectly! Even as a solo female, I had it set up in no time, and it stayed secure and tight the whole weekend. Thank you for such a well done video!

[@goldenglowladore3842]

Hi. What suction cups did you use? Did they work well? In wind?

[@sarawilder9463]

@goldenglowladore3842 They work perfectly for this purpose and hold up in windy areas.

[@chrisgraham2904]

The lever activated suction cups work the same as the handles used to carry large sheets of glass when installing windows. Very strong and very dependable as long as the surface your adhering to is smooth and clean.

[@brilang71]

I had Tristan's concept (@SUV RVing) on my old Ford Escape. Going to look into these suction cups for my new (to me) Jeep Cherokee.

[@spuds54321]

Havin trouble getting the suction cups to stay Jay = / Every time I try to tighten a line, the opposite side pops off. Don't believe I'm over tightening/exerting either. Also making sure to use flat surfaces. Any thoughts?

[@amilcarmayen5198]

Finally, a real budget friendly and good looking DIY awning. Thanks man!

[@CheaperJeeperTV]

I like your simplified version more than my own. Nice job. Cheers.

[@nancymcneill872]

Just saw your video 7/28/21. Rocked my world! On mt 3rd ---and LAST---incarnation of awning setup for my honda element. Suction cups are easy to switch from back to side of the car as sun moves here in the desert, making repositioning 1. Possible 2. Pretty easy. Many thanks

[@JayWandersOut]

Yep, I've moved it to the other side a few times just for sun.

[@nj4x4fever2]

Thanks for the info on permethrin. I use it on my hiking pants. That’s a great idea putting it on the screen. I have the extension poles and the suction cups. I found a nice tent footprint which is water repellent and has grommets in the corners. I’ll be using it for the tarp. I’ll try and get a video out. With links to all the parts and send people to your video link for getting me interested in tarp awning setup with suction cups. My Current suv is a Kia Soul which will be upgraded next year. Take care Brother.

[@JayWandersOut]

Permethrin is magic for me! I soak all sorts of clothes in it and even keep a collapsible bucket in my car partly for that purpose.

[@christophertanger605]

Thanks for sharing this awesome idea Jay! I will be wind testing it within the next 2 weeks haha! Safe Travels.

[@JayWandersOut]

It's not the best for strong winds or gusty situations I'll say that much. I'm thinking of trying something with shock chord to help absorb gusts and not pop the suction cups off.

[@jesib7526]

What brand of guy wire? Are you still happy with it?

[@Melohhdee]

I am impressed! Thank you! Plz let us know if you start to have problems with the suction cups and what you decided on

[@LiL13izzy7]

This is pretty cool. Nice solution, thanks for sharing!

[@toannguyen214dallas]

Get fishing car magnet 140lb is just as good

[@kevinbates5760]

Great vid!!! I was looking at a knockoff ARB for upcoming trip but I'm doing this now. I have everything but suction cups. Thanks again!!

[@lauram.9313]

This was exactly how I saw it in my head- thank you! - you put it on video so I could show my husband the idea. But the use of suction cups made it even better!

[@99jeepxjguy97]

Outstanding! Thank you! Solid, but not permanently attached. And can be placed just about anywhere.

[@JayWandersOut]

Yep. On a sunny warm day near the Grand Tetons I set the tarp up on the other side to shade the car side from sun. I also set the poles all the way down which helped it resist some decent winds. I have also set it up with the shorter side against the car for a longer reach for the tarp to get more shade.

[@lissaestes7017]

Excellent video! Thank you!

[@Leftism11]

Great video, thank you for all of the detail. Exactly what I was looking for to prepare for a camping trip out on BLM land.

[@rsus2012]

Hi can you tell me the brand of the suction cups please

[@Eyepod24]

Nice work man. I have a similar setup but use adjustable steel poles for some added durability. Hit me up if u ever come wheeling in so cal.

[@pinebearclub]

Thanks for the info! I’ve been scratching my head on how to do this kind of set up and suction cups are the answer! Just ordered the exact ones on Amazon, thank you again! Bryan from Vancouver

[@CanadianChick1000]

Also from Vancouver - have you tried them yet? I’m wondering how they stand up in the wet!

[@doglord2070]

Sorry about your tarp bro. Thanks for the video

[@LAchamps]

Hi Bro, cool video! Btw, where did you get those pants? Looks comfortable and can't find any where I live. Thanks!

[@JayWandersOut]

Thanks. The pants are 5.11 tactical pro pants. amzn.to/3n27piW They're water repellant to a degree so I like to wear them in winter since snow and water drip right off. Very comfy and durable.

[@ME-qq3gr]

I have actually seen cheap awnings for sale that attach with suction caps. Thanks for the video.

[@carriesuyon]

Thanks for this Jay! I really like your solution with the suction cups and am going to use it for my Eurovan. The rainy winters of the PNW can't keep ME indoors!

[@bonniematthews2500]

Great set up!! Another option for telescoping poles is shower rod pole with a drilled hook in it for your tie loops

[@chrisgraham2904]

Home Depot or any hardware stores sell a telescoping paint roller pole for rolling ceilings which extends to 8 feet and cost about $15 each.

[@keitarasell2075]

Very cool thanks from New Zealand

[@1216Rocker]

Great idea with the suction cups. I’m going to tinker around and find a different support system than the guidelines though. I camp mostly in the desert and finding places to sink stakes effectively is always a pain.

[@elementgypsy]

Maybe use sand bags, stuff sacks with sand, rocks attach line to them