JKLIVE | "I am part of this mess," CS Moses Kuria on the call for National Dialogue

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[@barrackotieno590]

I have hated this guy with a passion, but today he's talking a lot of sense..These politicians act damn and rectless when they want to fool us..I didn't know this guy can articulate issues with some sense of maturity..

[@DamonJones-hq9xn]

very true they act stupid to stupid people but now they can see kenyans are woke so they have to show how woke they are too

[@user-ki9fb6dn8t]

I like him he's not a coward like some.

[@cmg8683]

He has always been a straight forward guy You didn’t know him now you do

[@sobrejazz3919]

For the first time this guy utters some sense

[@ChachaSteven]

I just realized Kuria kumbe got brains😂

[@nancyhunja915]

I must commend Moses Kuria for explaining things so clearly and for what he has done.

[@user-jr8vw9vr6z]

Politicians have a very sweet tongue. Trust them at your own peril.

[@ericshalimba6509]

They even don't need advisors. CSs should be technocrats not politicians who need advisors again!

[@patrickmaina9753]

But we have a country to protect

[@user-cs5bs8xd8r]

Aki

[@user-cs5bs8xd8r]

We don't need IMF and others

[@user-cs5bs8xd8r]

Where is free education? free healthcare na NHIF tunatolea some few greedy individuals?

[@sigeirobert3701]

And 16 hours later Moses Kuria had lost his job as a Cabinet Secretary.

[@Leongreenkiprotich]

bahahahaha

[@chriscao9828]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@themartins9650]

he knew he is part of the mess😂😂😂

[@eleven-in5qw]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😂😂😂😂😂

[@FM-ir2nq]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Fanyzer.kenya.786]

We want the court to investigate all accounts of Cs ministies and answer Kenyans how they get that money which gives them ignorant towards citizens,

[@evansnyakundi2240]

The problem is corruption and accountability. Poor management.

[@cadmelmisiani9050]

"After today's exciting events, you're either part of the action or you're missing out. Otherwise, the empty drums will finally be silenced."

[@user-kv7ej3df1m]

Let this people bring our money back that they stolen

[@SophiaPatriciaLifeCoach]

Wakina Nani?

[@r_simiyu8239]

One allowance only (travel) of a CS is 50m per year. Thats Enough to pay 800 interns 25k p/m. Kenyans we dont have a wage bill problem, but greed.

[@hussainomar1729]

If we want Ruto to leave office it has to be done legally through parliament vote of no confidence Bringing down Government through force is a recipe for destruction like Somalia, Sudan Yemen and etc. Force this Government to make necessary changes and vote them out in the next election and vote for people who have clean past history

[@Animalsandwildlife.7527]

We never said we want Ruto to leave office. We want him to act: disband EACC, take CDF from mps, fire incompetent CSs and PSs, Reduce wastage and corruption. Focus on job creation instead of false promises daily. Let's manufacture our own fertilizers and edible oils to create jobs and cut on imports.

[@VincentManyonge]

They knew what they doing was wrong and they didn't want to change,huu ni mwaka wa kuforce 💪

[@benbo7042]

You must be a clown to think the way you think. The SAHEL countries kicked out their PUPPET presidents and they are bringing developments to their countries. One of these countries has one of the best economies in Africa so far.

[@cleo4782]

So how will you have this done without engaging him through open discussions...i.e dialogue..🤔

[@bobmacoti4130]

This is what we want bro but the President is adamant on taking action😢​@@Animalsandwildlife.7527

[@evacyrus942]

Loved the show. Moses Kuria has a great mind

[@amosnjonjo9237]

Mr Kuria you are absolutely correct. We have enough examples of countries surrounding us that have been unstable at one point or another and the consequences should be well known to us. Let's not take peace for granted. Action as a result of Dialogue can only be better.

[@ngwiravincent]

Spot on. Kenyans take peace for granted. One day you will regret this. If you have a problem with the government please sit down and discuss...

[@ministerkenn1793]

Nothing of that sort,we can't be slaves on our country by politicians. Better we build kenya a fresh

[@Nuru.Gizani]

💯 💯 💯

[@ericmuthiani1676]

​@@ministerkenn1793go do that in your home

[@optimus_cruz]

Man the education level of the said countries quoted can't even be compared to us. We are doing a high precious surgery on this country. We have done such a surgery before and it got us independence 1963, the second got us multipartism. It's not our first rodeo as a country.

[@SophiaPatriciaLifeCoach]

Great interview Jeff with CS Kuria💯👏👊

[@ernestngatia7250]

This guy has flashes of wisdom mixed with serious moments of madness. The problem is lack of consistency and inability to control his anger.

[@jacksonkitunga2464]

A two headed snake 😮

[@ShalomAfrica-bychaim]

😂😂😂😂

[@josephgitau8072]

Hypocrisy. Now this is the time you are realizing after we had to lose lives

[@samwelkariuki3114]

This guy is talking sense,

[@SophiaPatriciaLifeCoach]

👊

[@otiendejacobhilary4264]

They will choose their friends to dialogue, that's where they get it wrong

[@simonkinyua4991]

If ruto has to leave office, let him do legally.

[@georgeopiyo609]

Legally by rigging through Jose Camargo 😢😂

[@jamesmbugua1881]

​@@georgeopiyo609it was an excuse after losing the election.Sometimes people must learn to accept the reality & congratulate the winner.

[@NGACHI100]

Stop the shenanigans of Ruto needs to go the legal way. Ruto must go now!!!.... There is no need to observe law as Ruto never respects the law so he should not be treated to the law.

[@Nuru.Gizani]

​@jamesmbugua1881 💯 💯 💯.....

[@shiru-dn2ji]

Resign! Why is he holding on power.

[@gracekamauthequeen6862]

All media has to suspend any debate or Intervew with this poeple....we want action and we dont want to repeat ourselves,not words ..wanajuvuna and they have been in this government's for decades....WE ARE BUNNING INTERVEWS...PERIOD

[@DrSting-vp3hd]

While you are on the spaces the freaking all time ranting the same things over and over again.....😅

[@dandee7414]

Just switch off the Tv...why are you watching them

[@Patoh254Somie]

Switch off ur television madam

[@florencemuthoimuthoni5816]

Gen z ❤❤❤❤ you are a kenyan saviour...david to Israel our alpha children will live a good life

[@ChachaSteven]

Just realised Kuria Kumbe got brains

[@BenardKanamba]

What brain do they apply its wested.

[@mikalmodi4535]

Give the devil his dues...he's always so smart upstairs..

[@ewaweru]

This former CS is so bright. What happens that things go so wrong.😢

[@michaelmuthoni7008]

Constitution 2010 brought all this mess ,from 210mps to 390mps,47 Gvnrs ed deputies ,69senators,

[@kennethkosgei98]

My point too.. It's the source of all this.. Many irrelevant posts

[@johnnjoroge8260]

That has always been my position. The budget clocked 1T in the financial year 2012/2013 for the first time in history when the 2010 constitution was fully implemented. 10 yrs down the line, the budget is now 4 times

[@michaelmuthoni7008]

True​@@kennethkosgei98

[@kushlekitumo695]

Kenya has missed the moment of them to put Kenya 🇰🇪 in the world

[@danielkihobe3518]

We don't need this kind of reasoning in screens! They know what we want but argue like kinds. Keep them off screens for us.

[@gracekamauthequeen6862]

I second you...All.medias has to suspend all interviews

[@Afro-Funk-withFroKatai.-ld8ti]

Ppl have to talk. How old are you? Don't be petty.

[@johealingtouch6683]

And yet you reason like the kid you are , naivety will destroy some of you , in any place for one to dwell dialogue must exist the sooner you get that the better.

[@nacymostfavoured6334]

Let him speak, let everyone play his part as a citizen to sort the issues at hand . It's every Kenyan problem. Play your part too instead of discrediting others.

[@reginagatundu2726]

​@johealingtouch6683 Dialogue with them means compromising with will not be good for the country. It's clear from how they are talking.Debts have always been there but first time we are hearing struggle to pay, free education has been there since Kibaki time it's the first time we are hearing complains.They simply need money to loot!!!

[@fredricklemiso6191]

Moses kuria change my thinking abaut, thanks to gən z revolutions

[@davidgachoka]

Kuria,it's shameful that as an aclaimed professional,it has taken you this long to realize that the government which you are part of is an unnecessary burden to Kenyans!

[@user-kq4ht7by4x]

I liken him to a staggering drunk man who says the truth under the guise of being drunk

[@sabasabinibinsaba356]

DIALOGUE MY FOOT GET THIS POLITICIAN OUT

[@themartins9650]

And so they did

[@lynx9797]

I think you just want to know the leaders of Gen Zs, thats why you need them in person 🤔

[@kwontec]

So they can delete them

[@jamesodhiambo3032]

He got a point. 🎉

[@bvacrosecompany8331]

Sometimes he talks sense if he chooses to!

[@dawitkingsley4223]

Shame shame shame!

[@nacymostfavoured6334]

Shame on every Kenyan including yourself.

[@Nuru.Gizani]

By thexway this is the first Kenyans yo admit that he is part of the mess..A lot of us are also corrupt,including nepotism, bribery,ma connections...corruption is deep rooted. Nchi ya kitu kidogo....

[@PhilipKirui-fl5xz]

Very articulate Kuria.

[@joemulwa1694]

Little did he know he would have zero advisors 😂

[@AMAKURUYABBC]

Everything can't be perfect but Ruto is hero of Kenya

[@cujo7758]

Kuria one side you say you agree with the GenZ and there policies then you say you want them to dialogue. As a government cabinet member just implement what you say you agree with. No need for them to repeat themselves.

[@StephenMumbwani]

you can never solve the problame without dialogue. say MPs salary. its fixed with law to suport so without dialogue you will burn all houses but still will recive the salaries but in a dialogue we agree on a fomular to revers the law

[@DORCASSMARTKASTAR]

Woow kuria is a very brilliant guy..

[@janekarumba1700]

Kuria beside his loose mouth he is great guy with great vision

[@BabaNia2006]

Cut your salary by 50% and then you can talk!

[@injendimwivandamukolwe3094]

The only time I have heard Moses kuria talk sense. I thought he had no academic long journey.

[@Animalsandwildlife.7527]

He was told what to say by advisors.

[@franmdleleni6520]

He is talking the opposite of his boss who still doesn't get it saying it is foreign forces that are influencing protests.

[@gabiesanchez8943]

He was a career senior bank executive in Dubai and Saudi Arabia for decades before he came back to pursue politics. He is very smart.

[@Agro_nomad]

Why do you invite these people...Jeff you are part of the problem

[@mithamowaithaka2796]

He's a boomer citizen tv have been so lenient with him his stayed elapsed with kibaki

[@tridabalira5992]

To shame them publicly and teach us your neighbours . Uganda and Tanzania we are still sleeping.

[@beatboredomanytime]

Don't be so rigid. To what end do we need to go to the streets. Give dialogue a chance.

[@Agro_nomad]

@@beatboredomanytime ok...but remember what they say about craziness..doing the same things over and over and expecting different results..😃

[@dankuriathecoach6970]

I think Jeff is losing his edge,he allows opportunities to ask great questions..I could be wrong

[@samwelmohochi8364]

The youth question is a blessing and not a problem.

[@lameckondieki4756]

The goal is to make a cultured nation. And the secret is in giving. 1.Give more power to the ordinary people including the youth, give EACC much authority in investigations and prosecutions, give proven corporate leaders strategic positions in govt. Give KSG powers to recall for training and create a KPI driven work culture that is followed to the core. Give ksg and psc powers to use Aptitude tests, periodic evaluations and reviews to form basis for promotions, appointments and recruitments. 2. Make the gen z respect you. Put them on a pedestal at your own peril. 3. Stand up to outside fiscal and economic manipulation. 4. Leverage on what we have. Eg. I have not heard KTDA increase the price of exported tea after Moody whinnings. 5. Covertly influence African mineral costs to rise dramatically, esp those that are majorly produced in Africa. If foreign influence is not tamed, we wont do much progress..

[@ericntabo2734]

Exactly sir, well spoken

[@sharonjames2041]

😢Ur Stealing From De Public Purse 😢💔Everything is POLITICAL 😢❤

[@ericwarugongo5863]

The solution is 'punguza mzigo bill' of 2019

[@rogersmunyangaji9246]

Moses Kuria is a very articulate man, very intelligent and lively. Keep going my man!

[@user-cs5bs8xd8r]

Mlambistic😂😂😂

[@cosmos6935]

Moses Kuria ananyamba points hio ni ukweli, shida ni ati kui-implement kwa hii government ndo tisho kwake, i mean ameguzia most of what the public wants!

[@raphie9706]

Interns are being given 25000 with all deductions and then we are told to start businesses, to hell the political class

[@sellasiaedmond]

25k???

[@raphie9706]

@@sellasiaedmond Yea, and you should live in Nairobi

[@ambrosewambiya6197]

Hon 3 million of us need a meeting to dialogue about Kenya, we need elders to be frank to each other. The problem of Kenya is full capitalism system survival for the fittest at the expense of the majority. Ambrose Ofafa Wambiya

[@chalyjohns8676]

Unfortunately you knew this fact long before it is felt in the public domain

[@franmdleleni6520]

At least he is realising and talking about it. Unlike his boss who now says it is foreign forces who are behind the recent protests.

[@jamjazz8]

Since KANU went down we've been patiently waiting for a change, Dr WSR said it's time.. no more talking, dissolve your government and some non performing structures ,, no blood will be shed.. Walk the talk and KANU is REGROUPING🎉🎉🎉

[@arapchichim7395]

It's my first time, hearing this guy talking sense.

[@jamesngunjiri1215]

We are woching this old political cards thy go home because it become plying game for long time.

[@kevinekai7621]

Please JKL ask him of the edible oil scandle,who were responsible and what actions as been taken upon them,what was his part in the whole thing?????

[@kennedygachie]

The time for dialogue is way over. This government has been chest-pumping to its citizens when we called them for a dialogue. Now, what we need is a new face of governance. Dissolve the cabinet!

[@francismwendantoburi6942]

You made us to go crazy!!!

[@DaviesRioba]

Let the president capitalize on Gen z and act. I wish the dialogue can be as follows: 1. Priority list on actions 2. Success indicators 3. Timelines of actions 4. Reporting frequency on actions 5 . Consequences on failure Etc Be factual and avoid rhetoric conversations from political class.

[@DaulaRooney]

The problem with our governments is greediness even the taxes being increased is to go to pple pockets. Kuria speaks truth if kk government wants can fix this mess alone. End corruption unnecessary wastage kwanza county governments ndo wezi kabisa.

[@Wambusammy]

If Kalonzo refuses to jump into the dialogue train, how is he not principled?

[@billymankenya]

Half of our taxes is used to pay salaries. Very unfair

[@johnbigwera9957]

What is all this about dialogue when the Ge-zs have given out a list of what they the government to do?

[@JVal_1402]

OPULENCE, CORRUPTION....LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY

[@tdunde]

These guys are all incompetent! They can't govern now they want help from the opposition and the public.

[@richardnyangao7326]

You are the incompetent one. Kuria has really talked some facts.

[@tdunde]

@@richardnyangao7326 Exactly! Talked, but done nothing worth talking about! Incompetent as they come! He is still talking about Kalonzo being in or out of the government. The writing is on the wall! They need to act or go home! They are destroying a beautiful country!

[@johealingtouch6683]

Be open minded , show us how competent you are by showing up for reasonable dialogue , tell us your demands with soberness of understanding that Time wasn't built in one day .

[@jacintawaruimbo5321]

Do you realise by cutting ministries that goes with hundreds of unemployment for the same Genzs please ladies and gentlemen let go pole pole Rome was not built in ONE day

[@anthonymaina2215]

Talk for yuaselof…

[@munyuakiarie9736]

We need him greeted literally not hypothetically... Don't brag before you drag?!

[@petergatheru1544]

Wise words from moses there

[@isaacvtv547]

That's why you don't have to talk to much if you don't know what's tomorrow is going to be

[@HUMBLEBEASTTT]

I feel sorry for the people that work under this guy

[@Inagole4233]

May God bless the MEDIA because they are the eyes of the public,,PLEACE I HAVE A REQUEST,,Bring some to tell us HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING RETIRED MPS AND FORMER PRESIDENTS IN RETIREMENT,,is this moral .?

[@antoinette6484]

Sorry! WHAT!!! If thats the case then the logical thing to do is wage cuts and nonsensical offices cuts on all of YOU!? Right!

[@ndegedoreen6003]

Well said hope people learn something from this even a mad man can say something and trigger your thoughts

[@dorcusmukaya9285]

By the way the government can operate with the Ps ‘s only we see Kama kuna extra money saved from this years budget

[@joycegitao9040]

Wisdom is profitable to direct! Come let us reason together!

[@wilbykimkim3519]

Why does kuria keep on talking of talking yet the talks don’t bare fruits. They know what Kenya needs ! End corruption- simply go home

[@nancymuturi9920]

Great brains if only everything can be put into consideration

[@kushlekitumo695]

If you could please provide the way forward to us to complete this issue is only when you get paid 70k par month

[@geoffreyokello5034]

IS THIS MOSE KURIA TALKING???? What a transformation!!!!!!

[@peterotsyula634]

Though ì don't like this Gov't but dialogue is far better than war

[@patrickmaina9753]

Even me I don't like it but as a genz let us not burn out country

[@jabezjedidiah1429]

We have been at war and it will persist until leaders do their mandate and are responsible and accountable. No child birth without pain. Kenya must deliver its greatness and potentials.

[@margaretmuchemi5698]

Kuria is a good leader if he good polish his ranguage.

[@gafu]

Arrived 11th July. The "Miracle" . Already happened 💀💀sacked

[@robertkimani2420]

These people wanatuchezea akili we don't want such leaders

[@vinniexer]

They are the ones that brought emotions now when we are emotional they want us to talk🤣🤣

[@dorcusmukaya9285]

We need to see how the government is paying the ‘national debt’ we can’t believe them avail debt payment details to the auditor general for the public scrutiny

[@okutebettina2509]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 please moses we need on the streets and tell us all the secret

[@Vydez254]

😂 this aged like fine wine.

[@roselynekwamboka6869]

And where is free education,don't foolish us outside here there is no free education 😊

[@thesilentechoes]

Did he ever think the same before Gen Z went to the streets? 😢😢😢. Playing safe

[@mwashibenard2280]

Why are these selfish dirty politicians afraid of losing their bread while a bigger percentage of Kenyans go without food. These thieves pay themselves bigger even more than their counterparts in rich countries

[@raphie9706]

Kuria should stop visiting TV stations and talk of things we can't substantiate. We have been PSC intern for 1 year and can't even think about it

[@JVal_1402]

OPEN OPULENCE, CORRUPTION,NEPOTISM IN THE PRESIDENCY AND GOVERNMENT, TRIBALISM, SHAREHOLDING ....this hurts ,it bleeds

[@mkunjufu]

He tried to hold it together for a few minutes then his incompetence and sycophancy came out strong😂😂😂

[@peterbavu1055]

🇰🇪Ruto is now realizing Kenyans can again hire him or fire him in 2027. There is no need to keep an opulent, inefficient & greedy cabinet

[@anthonywachira9857]

This is a thing that came with Kibaki where MPs exponentially increased thier pay and allowances , another issue is the model of the government that was wrongly adopted without a clear mandate

[@Black-Ivr.]

And now less than a day later he is jobless🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@patrickgachau1092]

Jeff you are too soft with kuria and Duale.

[@okothvictor8094]

Little did he know the shock was to fall on them less than 24 hrs later.

[@mercyndulu1025]

😂😂 the next day 😮 he was standing at the gate

[@wacukageorge]

I see why he’s always sympathetic with Odinga