JKLIVE | Lawyers weigh in on the State of politics

ELECTION 2022: PRE-SEASON EDITION
“It is disrespectful and a breach of state security for a deputy president to visit a president of another state without informing the president” - Proff Makau Mutua - Fmr Dean, School of law
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[@moseswafula7733]

Grand Mullah is smart enough not to mess with his pay check..

[@mwendapoleee]

Because in the end nothing happens,its business as usual!

[@ibrahimabdihussein1597]

For the first time I have seen Grand Mullah on the defensive zone. He knows more than he's willing to admit. Prof Makau is such an intellectual character

[@AliIbrahim-lv5cq]

Me after coming back from America, president Kenyadaa🤣

[@edquest5764]

If I was president and I wanted my deputy to succeed me , I would do exactly what president doing, Whether by design or default DP has become or is becoming more and more appealing to the masses than he was immediately after elections in in 2017 ......... Smart people ........ It is working

[@mahatmustafa7041]

i like this bench & these two gentle men

[@Lau-jm1rj]

Love the duo always

[@benitahngativah1239]

There's too much conjecture in this plenary. Also, who's moderating who 😂

[@teshlyfunpack1805]

Grand Mullah is avoiding every question

[@williamkirima8295]

Ruto said he was going to learn about bottom up from Uganda. Weeh!

[@sammymaingi2081]

Student of international relations come and hear this , history of the state,state relations and state security

[@kevinopata262]

Where the remaining part of the interview

[@johnmureithi4688]

prof. is very articulate

[@aliibren9524]

Ahmednasir is not sincere and his very hypocritical on comments

[@shirleymaina1663]

This discussion I agree with Prof not GM. He is just pledging loyalty to a renegade DP.

[@jamesmugambi9574]

Grand Mula you're genuine and intelligent. Koodo my brother. We trust you. You performed soo well.

[@jamesmugambi9574]

In a relationship, not always the weak side ( a woman) who's wrong. DP Ruto will always emerge victorious. Why do you classify DP as a corrupt man? Which Court has prouved DP as a thief? Stop your liars to continue propagating condamning the DP Ruto as wrongdoer. Ruto is the best trusted 5th Kenyan president. We love him soo much.

[@nicktsysmba7811]

@@jamesmugambi9574 my friend Mr Ruto can not be prosecuted now neither the president because of immunity. You think Ruto wants to be president so as to help Kenya? You are dead wrong. Basically it is to protect what he has amassed over the 10yrs. If he fails to be president, watch my words, he will be a dead meat.

[@phoebewanjiru1955]

This mutua is talking on propaganda. Does he know museveni is uhuru friend. Can prof. Mutua should bring out facts and not gossip

[@gatemijr9208]

@@jamesmugambi9574 You can't possibly look at life in this country since 2013 and call Ruto the "best trusted". It has been hell under his coalition's rule. He is simply popular;not deserving. His popularity is a result of his power to deceive and hoodwink Kenyans;just as it was in 2013 and 2017.

[@gatemijr9208]

@@nicktsysmba7811 Just as it was in 2013. The ICC case was the only reason a Uhuruto partnership existed. If they missed the Presidency they would probably be convicts now. That's why they needed it so bad that elections were rigged.

[@ithewakui4839]

Disrespect? Respecting anyone isn't a legal or constitutional requirement, you do that out of will. Respect is not given, it is earned!

[@gilbob]

Ruto stink of scandal from here to Nandi .... now Professor Makau you are killing it

[@franciskaranja5085]

How will that stop Ruto from been elected president next year

[@johnndirangu1053]

How on earth is he a professor, he is reasoning like a class 3 kid

[@mosesgachari4743]

2022@Ruto vs Raila are the Horses Waiting for Deputy Prezzo,s to Selected💯👍👋👋👋👋👋

[@StoryTime4AllKids]

How did he become a prof

[@jamesmugambi9574]

J K, you're a great journalist in Kenya, we like your intervantion.

[@mwanikiantony4384]

Seems like Ahmed and Mutua are good friends ....both are fearing to attack .....we know them

[@rasheemfagazman3550]

I think this relationship had a moment of one thinking that the other was gaining more spotlight than he was yet it was supposed to be his show, leading to the handshake with other ones political nemesis as a way of showing might this is how this relationship went down

[@njokinyagahh1537]

So prof in other words u are telling us the reason why ur candidate is trying to go deep in the state is to win 2022 and not what he has been telling the people "building bridges" the end game is 2022

[@kelvinbahati5325]

tough brains,,this man is really a professor

[@sensetalk9170]

this is just two elders appearing in suits on TV. not perceived debate.

[@anthonyngotho8051]

Some of these precedents are dangerous for future vice presidents..

[@shillahoduor3229]

Grand Mulla something si wrong ... how do you say kikuyus are the most learned ? I think you should do your proper research. And also regarding stolen elections!!!!

[@mosesatule7631]

Grand Mullah played it safe.

[@mwendapoleee]

Because he knows his limits and he is responsible not to put things out there without proof.I think the idea of tying the 2 principals together was not a good idea!Because Ruto can now do what he wants and Uhuru can only play dirty!

[@mirajtv3785]

Grand.. what about tha case of the " Priti Patel forced to resign over unofficial meeting with Israelis" I think is same case with DP Ruto

[@georgeochieng3303]

I like the brain of Prof who sees far away

[@brickklayer6543]

Grand mullah is just in the wrong place always second guessing himself, contradictory statements constantly as a lawmaker, he spoke like a rookie. This dude smoked him & the dude who sent him 😭

[@ahmedaden3419]

You are a sadly wrong

[@jeps.e4305]

I don't understand Uhuru's support which Makau Mutua is talking about... Uhuru himself can't even convince his own people to vote Raila... Never in history.

[@george1528]

Uhuru has not even started the campaign

[@jeps.e4305]

@@george1528 ...is he vying for anything?

[@george1528]

@@jeps.e4305 just chill, it's too early

[@carladede3013]

But he has the resources to do so

[@careful4847]

Even Uhuru himself won't get a MP seat in Gatundu if he vs kuria goes to the ballot.

[@gilleanomungo4381]

Someone knows something here

[@jamesngigi8948]

Ahmednassir is a confident lawyer ...I like him

[@seiiism]

Grand mullah has already secured his job in representing WSR in the supreme court next year.

[@samuelochieng71]

After WSR being elected

[@jim12306]

You’re only speculating especially you Jeff and mutua, . how do you know he didn’t ask permission from Uhuru???

[@nicktsysmba7811]

If he did have the president’s permission , who will contradict or object a president’s directive in a day light like it was? Your guess is as good as mine.

[@teddyonyango9815]

If he had permission we would not be talking about him being stopped but what he was going to do

[@jamesbamboo3488]

These interviews are always set

[@blackhibiscus1876]

I’m feeling the same.

[@Tysonesta]

Professor is a very smart intellectual 👊🏿

[@johnmureithi4688]

grand mullah is holding brief for wsr

[@andrixmwema8064]

G. Mula I like your arguements

[@ibrahimathman2679]

This shows how the government is insecure

[@kipchorngwonektiroto457]

Prof Makau once called me "Dampass". I never expected a man of his stature to call me such! In fact, he emailed me the "Dampas word" It is so sick to hear him here now!

[@humbulanimulaudzi7185]

Tell u what you did for him to call you that.

[@wayando]

But the real question is ... Are you a "Dampass"?

[@carladede3013]

Grand mullah does not want to disclose information here but prof makau is staying true to himself 👌👌👌

[@helenmaeke1033]

Really..a dreamer just like most " proffs"

[@alikokani3781]

Coalition candidates based with regional numbers give possible clout one is likely to gunner

[@patrickojola3824]

GM body language and response shows he’s has nothing to defend

[@michaelotieno6524]

Wow the sooner Rutos guys accept that Kenyatta is the problem the better for them blaming 3rd parties is delusional.

[@simonstechschool7929]

Me: president Uhuru, DP William Ruto, President Museveni. Prof Makau Mutua: Mr. Kenyatta, Mr. Ruto, Mr. Museveni 🤣🤣🤣

[@siromuzi78]

Grand Muller is always devoid of facts. He gets witless & defensive

[@moseswafula7733]

From 1986 not 1996

[@franciskenyeru6837]

The truth is no member of a cabinet anywhere in the world, ìn any country can travel and in particular meet senior cabinet officials including the head of state of foreign states/nations without informing and being cleared by his president or something. In fact no individual can advance an individual agenda with a foreign government while he's still serving in government. Those who have studied foreign policy and international relations particularly public international law like myself know this as a fact.

[@chebondennis2094]

Summary!!! Prof: Simply because you don't have evidence that something does exist does not mean you have evidence of something that doesn't exist. Grand Mullah: Well, what I'm saying is that there are known knowns and that there are known unknowns. But there are also unknown unknowns; things we don't know that we don't know.

[@lamiltongeorge3834]

(Black swan moments)

[@wayando]

😂😂😂 ... So many words ...

[@OBmusic1]

Whether the president is fed up with deputy or not why should that matter when it comes to who will succeed him. It is still wanting who decides. Hello??

[@OBmusic1]

I mean wanjiku,

[@andrewb5998]

Mutua the grandiose, intelligence demands no dominance when put your points across. Allow your colleague time and stop arrogu

[@maryachieng1019]

Mullah defending a person who is doing business in Uganda ,and in Kenya the same person is dishing wheelbarrows to Kenyans, how will I put wheelbarrow on top of the table? I need school fees,clothing, food etc,not wheelbarrow men.

[@hillaryogutu6935]

Ahmed was off in this.

[@kalungawanje9741]

GM is been too simplistic. DP not flying is not simply an aircraft taking off/or not.

[@briankerage7618]

Proff is really firing shots at Grand mullah😂

[@g00.41]

To me the Grand Mullah appears not to have developed the sixth sense. He seems incapable to disentangle his mind from the evidence of the senses to see the invisible forces at work in Kenya. Ruto has never & is not clean. His frequent visits to Uganda & to tell us that he learning anything of value from Museveni is cow dunk. If that is the kind of person he borrows leadership style from to lead Kenya, then we see the making of another dictator in Africa. It beats me that learned lawyers like the grand mullah can not see the so so so obvious. Very disappointed.

[@festusogwankwa9626]

Prof you have killed me🤣🤣 Ruto sticks scandals from Nairobi to Nandi...

[@Random-troy.]

Who's the moderator here🤣🤣. Jeff is just watching

[@carladede3013]

Prof makau is speaking the truth but he is struggling to explain but the grand mullah is being cheeky with his points

[@carladede3013]

Prof makau thank you for telling muller institutions are not run by themselves they are run by individual and those individuals should have integrity👍

[@highhigh7476]

Prof that is stories tellers give us reason

[@janennamdi4193]

Grand Mulla is being very careful not to say something wrong in the eyes of Ruto

[@bethshebaatieno2034]

Hapa ni race ya sungura na mzee Kobe, let's wait the last whistle. As a kenyan i will celebrate with whoever wins.hizi zingine ni kelele za chura.

[@moshe669]

I like this Mzee Kobe Sungura manenos,finally we know what happened at the end of the race (Mzee Kobe).

[@Msemaukwelikweli]

These guys are talking as if they know whether Ruto seek permission or not, this is sad

[@ggman6939]

Sad 4 what it's just stupid politics with some ministers drunk with power, but soon they will be out.

[@blessedman4734]

Mr. Mutua is a foreigner... how is he allowed to discuss Kenyan affairs?

[@vince459]

Read 2010 constitution a bout dual citizenship.

[@karimosman5866]

Safe game

[@jamesngigi8948]

Stop blaming no 2 for mistakes of no 1

[@robinsimba3673]

Its out in the streets thats where the loot is and he was going for refill 💵💴

[@ibrahimbundi8770]

GM is biased and already taken sides. Jeff,the debate cannot be balanced.

[@bourbonclassic4025]

hapo GM amechoma. today he is clearly hiding something.

[@dreamawakeproduction]

Proff is really a dodger.

[@lightuponlights3089]

Mullar direct and simple

[@johnobby6603]

😂😂this guys though

[@jim12306]

Makio bana, who told you Ruto is learning alone, Ruto is building strong movement of coalition that will shock pundits!!

[@DigitalMedEd]

Lol it’s running

[@jim12306]

@@DigitalMedEd you’re right! Typo tu na wewe, am sure you can read between the lines !!🤣🤣

[@carladede3013]

Are you seriously believing that he went to Uganda to conduct business in a span of two weeks

[@lucyfrancis1121]

How can museveni help Ruto to win election?

[@simonmuriithi9402]

Someone is openly avoiding something here.The debate didn’t yield much sense to the common mwananchi who suffers when the state is shrouded by mysterious accusations and counterproductive results.

[@calvinayayo6982]

Ds

[@Abu-Hamza254]

How can he ask for a permission when the relationship is long gone!

[@JOHNOOKO.]

MR.Ruto is still the deputy president

[@davemongare755]

This so called grand mullah has sooo much hidden facts. He nows everything what goes on in kenya but he don't want to say. Supposed this man is the corrupt element we don't want in kenya

[@carladede3013]

Agreed

[@altheboss5722]

at 7.48 makau says ruto and uhuru "are literally joined at the hip" really makau? is it that you feel like you are talking to children or you just dont know any better?

[@jacksonoyako526]

as per the constitution...i thought u should know

[@franciskaranja5085]

It's 😢 ssd

[@dreolwa7419]

Grand Mulla and Proff show clearly the difference between a corrupt lawyer and one with Integrity . Period !

[@joymaggy3295]

If Mutua is the description of Integrity then we need to redefine that word

[@NehemiahRotich]

Sit down 🤣

[@jasperoduor6111]

Grand mulla should stop taking part in such discussions when it's obvious on whose side heis.Its called intellectual dishonesty .what happened to Grand mulla we used to know .

[@mosbeijackson9759]

Isn't it obvious whose side Makau is?

[@dubemedia7870]

Actually the debate is for twosome with two opposite views and hence political sides as far as this show is concerned. We can clearly see which side proff Makau is

[@monsieurdicksonouma1820]

Grand Muller has no content is this matter at hand to be honest!!!

[@cabdallayare4554]

When will Ahmednassir learn English?

[@yakubmohamed8720]

Probably when you unlearn it

[@robertdullo8359]

So GM is this overrated?Lol

[@niominiomi3334]

Kenyans like talking too much😶did Ruto get ulcers because of not going to Uganda?

[@jameskaiguara7366]

Igo and self centred is killing mutua.

[@uselessbitch7859]

Election is never won in Kenya. Jk pliz disband this toddler debate that is fostered by the so called GM.

[@kennedynjenga492]

Grand mulla was not been honest

[@uselessbitch7859]

I feel grand Muller has nothing to add into this debate, he's ever emotional when Ruto is discussed.

[@katongoleharuna1368]

Because you're an idiot. He's not your level.

[@mohamednoor4290]

President muzeveni is one of the best and is pan African president muzeveni is African eye con don't igiliya yeye huyo mutu ya mana sana yiyi mutatuwe shinda senu na zerekali inajuwa kwa nini macho zerekali inaonambali mbali na hayo tusingiliye president muzeveni tutatuwe shinda zetu tuwaje kugiliya rais wa inchi ngine na kitu zerekali imefanya nisawa piya wanajuwa yale yiyi hamujui

[@willisoduor1897]

Abdi Nasir is not sinsere with his answers am sure his secretary in his office can't leave the office and travel with out his permission stop fooling Kenyans.

[@alicewambugu5934]

He's the head of corrupt lawyers and they know very well who they are.

[@willybett253]

"How will an aeroplane that did not fly off affect 2022 elections?"🤣I can listen to Grandmuller all day long

[@lucyfrancis1121]

It is very easy to say all manner of things mutua.

[@rashadinho8887]

So Mr Makau has become the HOST of the show🤔

[@dennisbundi8695]

jeff your reducing ths show to propaganda

[@aliibren9524]

Kkkk look them in the eye kibaki stole election from Odinga

[@robertn2817]

Even Odinga people stole the elections...there were reports of ballot stuffing in rift valley, nyanza and western-kriegler report.

[@johnngenga4057]

Grand maller brave 👍