American Jewry Can Be Saved by Israel w/ Elliott Abrams | Think Twice

[@le832]

My father’s side is Jewish, but I was never raised in the culture although I was exposed to some holiday traditions. But never encouraged. My grandfather even spoke Yiddish. But typical of many NY Jews, my father was an atheist, socialist, and had a bit of that self-hate. I’ve had some Jewish friends but I have not really been part of any Jewish community. Despite that, especially since Oct 7, I have a deep caring for Israel and her people. And now I am a staunch supporter of Israel! I voted for Trump!

[@TzvookT]

Yep, there's hope for American Jews ... some hope ... *we Israelis tend to see you as "lost" to the Collective suicide Progressiveness cult* good to know some escape ...

[@shafsteryellow]

😂😂

[@joshuanewman2982]

bh

[@SHH0000000]

Thank u!!!! This was amazing to hear. Lots of love from Israel.

[@dimarks444]

My family was similar, My father was in WWII so we were always Zionists but not observant because of things he went through-PTS. He was an atheist too. I was violently shoved against the school lockers and had rocks thrown at me for having killed Christ-I could go on. But the point is that I always thought to myself, I can go to Israel. I can go to Israel. I still feel that way. They actually underestimate Jews like us. They think we aren’t loyal to Israel but you can be fiercely loyal without belonging to a temple, going to Israel, all of those things. I very much want to go to Israel. It upsets me that they dismiss people like us. We are not JINOs.

[@realityDoubleCheck-ss5xt]

My family and I voted for Trump. There was ,actually , no other choice for someone with at least little ability to think

[@lanagrossman489]

I wish and you talk about US. Russian speaking Jews who came from USSR. Unfortunately we are not religious, but we belong to Reform Temple, kids went to Jewish camp. We are Jews, we are not Russian or Ukrainian!! Russian speaking Jews in all this states we are in many thousands!! AND WE VOTED OVER 75 percent voted for Trump and republicans!! You unfortunately did not say anything that in Democratic states if you admit that you voted for Republicans and professors YOU LOSE THE JOB, you get ostracized. We Russian speaking Jews very much care about Israel and another what BOTHER US A LOT THE DEMOCRATS AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH!! We came here for many reasons and one of them big one it is freedom of speech!! I could write forever because what he said particularly is right, but has nothing to do with us Russian speaking Jews. We have no issue to switch. Democrats are antisemites and anti Israel and no way we would vote for them. Leftist Jews are just “ strange “ jews or actually immoral seeing that Kamala supports antisemitism and they still voted for Kamala. I would love to talk to you and give you more honest outlook!!

[@hpyrkh3]

Same here. Also Russian. Also voting republican. I think, we are a little bit like Cubans, who don’t believe “leftist pretty talk” because we know what is behind it. Also, it is frustrating to be dismissed by the non Russian American Jewish community. “What do these backward Soviet Jews know about American life”. I wish they gave a little credit to what we experienced in the Soviet Union. Far left and far right had been equally lethal for the Jews, but far left is hiding its antisemitism better.

[@kekesam4957]

I share your political views totally! However, some Russian-speaking Jews in US joined the dems, thinking they continue being liberals. Idolizing the West with its freedom, they can't believe Western press can lie the same way as Pravda did. To me, it was a shocking experience. But look at the Russian Jewish intelligencia, who used to be dissidents in Soviet Union. They are teaching in universities, and praising Kamala. They care about Ukraine, but not so much about Israel. It's very sad that we have sellouts or idiots (can't see another reason) among us.

[@Sam-rp8uh]

100% agree

[@inessafrank9258]

100%

[@joankahn]

Totally understand your point about freedom of speech! Russian Jews are not naive suckers!

[@yevgenyzlotchenko6275]

Most of Jews from Soviet Union not involved in Jewish life but strongly support Israel and Republicans. Our life experience help us to understand in which directions our country is moving and we strongly oppose it. Some children of baby boomers were breinwashed in universities, but we are trying to fix it with grandkids...

[@le832]

@@yevgenyzlotchenko6275 I’m 65 and grew up around mostly liberal NYC Jews and most are now the ones posting anti-Trump stuff on FB. I honestly feel sorry for them. I first met Russian Jews when I was in Chicago and I hate to admit it was a new experience. They actually observed shabbat and sabbath. I had never met Jews like that LOL 😂! I had so much respect. One lady was a violin teacher. She was so nice!

[@billcurtis5668]

I live in LA. Russian Jews and Iranian Jews are a big % of the Jewish community. They are not very religious,but are strong supporters of Israel and against aniti semetisim.

[@davidbarr8698]

Here in Australia, the jews are not as assimilated as the U.S.A.

[@haleysalz1770]

That’s right! And we had a poll where 70% of Aussie Jews supported Trump

[@JackKosherDog]

Jews not loving Israel is very upsetting for me, as someone who has an extraordinarily strong Jewish identity. My Shabbat candles are already ready for Shabbat. I listen to scriptures and read them everyday. Multiple chapters! I love our Father's word so much. I attend services and celebrate all holidays and holy days, and often several times during the holiday. But here's the deal: I'm supposedly not ethnically Jewish. Regardless I love the Jewish people with all my heart. And it's none of my business how they feel about me. But not to be able to see Israel for what it is, is a terminal blindness. God open their eyes. Who the Jews vote for politically is close to irrelevant. The numbers are too small. Who the Jews vote for, spiritually, is a life and death question. I can understand that not every single person agrees that one has to vote a certain way in order to help Israel. There is plenty of confusion, for people who take drugs. And I'm not just talking illegal ones. Antidepressants, anti-anxiety, and other "helpers," have confused this generation almost beyond repair. Jewish people who partake in these legal psychotropic drugs, are probably in the majority of those who don't vote for the existential survival of Israel. Anyone who thinks I'm silly, needs to stop their drugs today. I guarantee they will vote differently in 2 years.

[@le832]

@@JackKosherDog My father’s side is Jewish but never raised in the faith and I’m not religious, never been to Israel, nor have I ever stepped in a synagogue yet I genuinely support Israel and the Jewish people!

[@gavinlevy1693]

I voted for Trump and I am a strong Republican. Wake up Jewish brothers and sisters!

[@yehudabendavid1]

The majority of Jews in America have largely forgotten what their own history and religion is. The majority have been fellow travelers of the Democrat party having sworn loyalty to the DEI and CRT and have little knowledge of Israel or the practice of Judaism. These American Jews are reenacting what has happened before the present situation. Throughout Jewish history, there have been those Jews who continued to practice and those Jews who assimilated within the existing culture.

[@Chemistrygreenleaf]

One of the problems about state subsidized schools is that there will be 10 muslim schools for every Jewish school.

[@bftime1]

With regard to the Pew survey. I am a Jewish baby boomer and most of my Jewish boomer friends have grandchildren who are not following Judaism. The interfaith marriage rate among the unorthodox e is now 80% however in the PEW study it determined that many of these children have been raised as Jews. Not true! the question "are you raising your children as Jews" the answer in these interfaith spouses is "yes". But the question is a poor question because most answer without demonstrating "how are they being raised as Jews". I would follow up with a question" Do you have a Christmas Tree and celebrate Christmas. Any Jewish parent who says "yes" then disqualify their answer that they are raising their children as Jews! Percentages would be much less!

[@anna-tn8mg]

Sadly, you're correct. It is the same with their assertion that they are pro-Israel. Many sadly, are close to "Jews for peace" charmers. I once had a conversation with a young and wealthy medical specialist. I got angry and said: "You're not Jewish." He: "Look at my name - we are Jewish." Yes, this is a way to convince someone that he is Jewish. Sure, just like his assertion that he is pro-Israel, right before he ordered me (2nd gen. - father lost family) to serve ... the poor, poor, poor Palestinians.

[@everythingandmore5537]

One can be Jewish Christian.

[@juliam248]

I don't agree with you. I am of Soviet ancestry, and my husband is a Catholic. We're raising our kids Jewish (preschool at the shul, Shabat services, Jewish holiday celebrations). My husband does put up a Christmas tree, but due to my Soviet upbringing, I don't see it as a religious thing since I grew up with a New Year's tree in the USSR. It doesn't make me or my kids any less Jewish.

[@anna-tn8mg]

@@juliam248 Well, due to your Soviet upbringing you might not able to know how Jewish your kids are, just like you unable to see the difference between upbringing and "ancestry." You don't see a Christmas tree as a religious thing, but it doesn't mean that it isn't. There is reality and your "seeing" might mean much less than you think. How many other things "you don't see as?"

[@juliam248]

@anna-tn8mg how are my kids not Jewish? Their mother is Jewish (me), they are recognized as Jews by our shul, rabbi, and the congregation, do not exclusively practice any other religion, and they self- identify as Jews. That fulfills the requirement for them to be considered Jewish by any standard. If you think that only orthodox Jews are actually Jewish, maybe you are the one who can't "see."

[@haleysalz1770]

The reform movement is a big issue

[@anna-tn8mg]

yes

[@RachelJ-ki6nt]

My reform temple didn’t indoctrinate me, but I also lived out more in the country, and not in a very Jewish area. Are reform temples in heavily Jewish areas indoctrinating Jews with self hate/leftist views? I could totally see that. Maybe we need new leadership in our temples…

[@haleysalz1770]

@ 100%. It’s not individual temples but more the movement itself

[@anna-tn8mg]

Years ago, I met an interesting guy and he told me the following story. He was active in the Reform movement work on a new platform in the 1970s (Reform Judaism for Social Justice." The draft was ready and he started to edit. Something there made him uncomfortable: "Something was wrong." He reread. The same feeling. He started to think. And it hit him. One word was missing in the entire text. It was "God." He left Reform Judaism the same day.

[@haleysalz1770]

@ good man! The reform movement isn’t Judaism- it’s leftism : the new religion

[@barbaraweinstein2938]

Such a bright man Thank you

[@CraigSNZ]

Praise God, and his blessings!! I can understand the problems, after so many years. I call myself, My Husband's gentile bride. Grafted into israel, through my jewish husband. I am teaching myself Hebrew, and strongly support, Israel. We are saving for another trip whan the war is over, to help rebuild war damaged homes , etc

[@Hadassah-q4z]

Taiwanese American Jew here. Voted for President Trump 3 times. I fully support Israel and Bibi. Having grew up in Taiwan, I do not share many “ social ideologies “ with American born Jews who were raised by Marx ideologies parents and textbooks. Education matters, sources of early childhood knowledge matters, knowledge of world history of migration and wars matters.

[@everythingandmore5537]

Do you believe Palestinians should be expelled from the river to the sea? Or do you support the Law Of Return which is for Jews only be extended to non-jews.

[@anna-tn8mg]

@@everythingandmore5537 Hi Hamas

[@joankahn]

@@everythingandmore5537 These questions have nothing to do with what SHE talked about!

[@le832]

@@everythingandmore5537 It’s Palestinian Arabs who wanted to expel Jews “from the river to the sea”. I support the Law of Return for Jews because Jews need it with all the antisemitism in the world. Israel is the only place that a Jew can be a majority and not feel they have to hide. Many countries, btw, have citizenship by descent: Italy, Ireland, Poland, Hungary, Austria, Germany. Also non-Jews can become Israeli citizens or permanent residents. Israel does take in non-Jewish immigrants. Although not common, some Palestinians have gained asylum in Israel: a gay man bc Palestinians persecute and murder LGBTQ, and a few who have voluntarily converted to Judaism or married Israeli citizens. Hamas terrorist leader Haniyeh’s sisters married Bedouin Israeli men and became Israeli citizens. Yep they are enjoying Israeli citizenship today! Unlike Saudi Arabia where you must be Muslim to be a citizen. Do you support Saudi Arabia?????

[@everythingandmore5537]

@joankahn these are the questions that US Jews wrestle with but Israeli Jews don't.

[@rosaravich5783]

Thank you for the program, I enjoyed the topic. Here I'm in Northern Virginia, USA. I'm from the former USSR Jew, culturally Jewish. I have a hard time to find like minded Jewish community. There are many Synagogues around in the area but It's not for me. Still looking for community of secular Jews. Rosa

[@anna-tn8mg]

Well, there is a problem. Frankly, only the culturally Soviet with "Jewish blood," would be the right community. Frankly, how much anything Jewish is in your "culture" in 2024? Unless you're in the early stage of emigration when psychological needs dominate, you might do better by going beyond "culture" and start studying JEWISH history and yes, read the Hebrew Bible. You might find or create a community that would make more sense than the "cultural" one.

[@jennyv5901]

Здравствуйте, Роза. Я бы посоветовала найти Хабад , и там уже найти русскоговорящих евреев, которые, вполне возможно, как и вы не религиозные , но хотят быть причастными. Хабад замечательно умеет привлекать людей всех степеней религиозности , ненавязчтво дать место всем , при этом будучи абсолютно неоспоримо ортодоксальным.

[@rosaravich5783]

​@@anna-tn8mg Thank you for your suggestions! Just to make clear: I immigrated to the USA from Germany in 1976. Studying the bible is a capital idea which I'm considering. Best.

[@rosaravich5783]

​@@jennyv5901Jenny, thank you for your suggestion of Habad. There is a newly formed near me. They are very welcoming according to reviews. My dilemma: how I could go to the Shabbat services without praying? Rosa

[@RachelJ-ki6nt]

You can’t rely on exit polls at all. Most Jews probably did mail in voting. And many Jews that probably vote democrat automatically maybe didn’t vote…if they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Kamala over these issues, but also won’t vote trump. So it would be the percentage of Jews that actually voted who voted for Kamala, not the percentage of Jews overall that voted for her. It could be only like 20 % of total Jews that actually voted democrat. You would need to asm every American Jew how they voted and if they voted, not through exit polls.

[@carrolcornish6273]

What about all of us Messianic Jews, we support Trump and Israel with all we have. Myself and many have Jewish blood, we were not raised Jewish but now follow Torah to the best of our ability & availability. Been in Israel 5 times and volunteered with the IDF. Israel is my home whether welcomed or not.

[@joankahn]

Some people may disagree with you theologically but that doesn't mean that they don't appreciate you!

[@le832]

@@carrolcornish6273 I have Jewish ancestry through my father and I appreciate all who support Israel. I watch TBN, do you? Yair Pinto is great! A dedicated Israeli and Messianic Jew.

[@carrolcornish6273]

@ Yes, I watch Yair, JNS and many others, I see more and more messianic Jews than ever before and they seem very accepted in Israel. The Goy messianics not so much but soon I hope. Thank you for your reply.

[@keepussafeUSA]

Continued from my other comment below- even though I raised my daughter Jewish and deeply care about Israel, I worry about my daughter getting discriminated against in the workplace or not getting a fellowship. Sometimes I want her to hide her Jewishness and not wear a Star of David ring or post pictures of her wedding under the chuppah on Facebook. I also think life will be easier for future grandchildren if they are raised Christian here in America, though it would also make me sad. Even though her husband is Christian, I think she wants to raise her future children Jewish. I have a very conflicted feeling because I want her life and their life to be happier in this increasingly hostile environment. I want my grandkids to be safe. Personally, since Oct 7, I have felt different and depressed. When I pass a college aged kid, I think they are posting Free Palestine stuff or I will see an actress on TV who I used to like but don’t anymore because they supported P and bashed Trump. I lie in bed at night and worry about whether the hostages are too cold or too hot. When I have a good meal, I think about them being underfed and hungry. It just feels sad being Jewish. I also defend Israel daily by responding to anti Zionist posts too and what people and kids post is deeply disturbing.

[@joankahn]

Living with ideals and believing in SOMETHING is a great thing. Thank God our Israeli kids had to give years of their life in service to a cause greater than themselves! I totally relate to many of the things you said. When something is easier it is not necessarily better! Let your daughter trust her instincts. Life will not always be more comfortable but it will be more fulfilling!

[@jennyv5901]

Excellent conversation .

[@RobertPentangelo]

Is there such a thing as World Jewry?

[@le832]

Yes

[@gunzel5126]

Yes, according to Protocols of the Elders of Zion. But not according to us Jews. If you believe in World Jewry, do you also believe in World Islam?

[@le832]

@ “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion[b][c] is a fabricated text purporting to detail a Jewish plot for global domination. Largely plagiarized from several earlier sources, it was first published in Imperial Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. It played a key part in popularizing belief in an international Jewish conspiracy.”

[@le832]

@ “World Jewry refers to all people who practice and believe in Judaism, wherever they live in the world. Jews consider themselves to be an am olam, a global people spread across the world. This idea is rooted in the Bible, such as in Isaiah 11:12, and is also repeated in Jewish liturgy.”

[@le832]

@@gunzel5126 I posted info but it was deleted. Google World Jewry…has nothing to do with that elders of zion nonsense!

[@lloydgush]

It can't. But it can save the west.

[@davidmorrison-io4co]

There should be a similar birthright program for Evangelicals. Their support is critical and we should develop it.

[@keepussafeUSA]

I disagree with sending Jewish kids to Jewish schools because: 1. It deprives Christian kids of getting to know Jewish kids 2. Jewish parents won’t be at school board meetings fighting anti Israel indoctrination where it exists. I think that Jewish summer camps are a great idea. Perhaps Jewish parents that don’t work, or retired grandparents that are energetic could be volunteers at these camps to help bring down the cost. I

[@AhmadGolshan-kb7rp]

Elliot Abrams! 🙏🙏

[@andrearabinovitch7186]

The intermarriage rate for secular Jews under 40 is huge. Maybe 75%. If this isn’t discussed immediately in the interview, the less valid it will be. Waiting….

[@andrearabinovitch7186]

My son has lead close to 20 Birthright trips. There has been no accurate analysis of the long term influence this program has had on the young people who participate. But according to he says of the kids whom he maintains a connection to, it seems pretty unpromising. Most see it as a free trip, a great time with a good bit of meaning thrown in. But once back to the states, it becomes just another fun youthful adventure. Sorry to say, the general demographic numbers for Jews in America speak for themselves. I’m not buying your suggestions, as well meaning as they are. Aliyah remains the only concrete answer, because in Israel Jews marry Jews whether they are secular or religious. With all the problems here in Israel, we are the ones creating Jewish history. America is a beautiful country -Jews should love it and show appreciation to it, but it will eventually swallow most of us up.

[@havahhope6516]

Higher.

[@havahhope6516]

I mean the intermarriage rate of secular jews is higher than 75%

[@joankahn]

@@andrearabinovitch7186 True for some , indeed

[@dimarks444]

You are wrong. If you talk to the boomer generation, we all had parents deeply affected by WWII. Even in an interfaith family, there was deep PTSD even if no relative that they knew of killed in the camps. The Christian partner knew not to bring it up. No religion but Jewish culture and respect because there was acknowledgement that Christians had killed us. You are all wrong. Plus a person can become observant in adulthood.

[@GyllenkroksAve]

Minute 51:37 , according to sikh sources, the duke of Wellington was of lubana heritage. Lubanas / labana/ lavana are indo-scythians originally specialised in trading salt. As such they developed skills in transporting bulk goods by land and sea, and also martial/military skills in order to protect their cargo. Jews were not the only traders in Europe with contacts in Asia! The difference is religion and assimilation over generations

[@ellencohen5085]

Please don’t forget to mention how outstanding Brandeis University and Yeshiva University are.

[@anna-tn8mg]

Brandeis? You must be kidding.

[@ellencohen5085]

I mean Brandeis is an alternative to the Ivy League schools that are allowing antisemitism to run rampant

[@anna-tn8mg]

@@ellencohen5085 Ah, I misunderstood. And yes, there is a problem with Yeshiva U. Several years ago, I spent some time on the Jerusalem Post site. There was a huge problem there with regular contributors, but at certain moment a new problem showed up - young blondes - either students or staff - who were penning op-eds or comments ordering Jews to serve the Palestinians and friends and pushing similar wisdom. Clearly illiterate and braindead.

[@zjzr08]

I think for "evangelicals" in general I think the younger generation tend to be less likely religious too similar to how younger Jews are now and assimilate more to a "secular" world which sadly is not good to "strong Israel" at the moment -- it is their choice sure but it is sad if American Jews don't hang on their ethnicity, because they will be a people who wouldn't have planted their foot in a homeland to establish their roots and embrace their original nationhood IMO.

[@raeli731]

I think it’s important also to acknowledge that some of us Jews were becoming assimilated but this war (and the hate that followed) only strengthened our sense of identity. 💙🤍

[@joankahn]

Interesting but always sad when anti-Semitism brings us back, or makes us closer to our roots, rather than celebrating our amazing heritage and history.

[@davidmorrison-io4co]

​@@joankahns

[@walwala78]

I totally disagree with your conclusion and find it simplistic. More secular Jews often go to Israel too. We often feel very torn between the Republican support for Israel vs the other issues that affect us every day that are more supported by democrats. More Orthodox Jews don’t have this problem because they are more conservative politically anyways.

[@gunzel5126]

The survey was data driven, not anecdotal

[@anna-tn8mg]

To do what there? To lecture Jews? Or to subvert Israel?

[@walwala78]

Then I question your survey design or your assumptions

[@anna-tn8mg]

@@walwala78 Yes, JStreet and other charmers go to Israel too. The Israelis have trouble surviving their "visits."

[@petersanmiguel1468]

Seek salvation from the Jewish Messiah: John 1:1-14 John 3:16 Romans 10:9

[@TzvookT]

@petersanmiguel1468 If you want a little respect to yourself or your religion, please show respect in Hebrew/Jewish/Israeli related videos and don't do your missionary manipulations here ... For us Jews it's an insult that you try to do your missionary manipulations here ...

[@Nudnik1]

No where in Hebrew scripture sources does G-d say he would send a man God idol human sacrifice calvary to die for others sins . Nonsense

[@Nudnik1]

​@@TzvookTthey are everywhere now messianic christian fraudulent movement also . Sickening

[@padredemishijos12]

@@TzvookTtoo sensitive.

[@padredemishijos12]

@@Nudnik1 That part was redacted from the Torah.