Joachim Meyer Longsword: Schneiden

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[@Michael_Lammer]

Thanks for the video. How do you account for Meyer (also) acting in the context of civlian Fechtschule. His fellow craftsmen most certainly did not want to have their hands truly cut or even severely beaten by a fechtschwert/feder. Doing the Schneiden with the foible against the fingers would often (as you also said) lead to a quck snapping action though, which can mess up fingers quite easily. I am curious about your thoughts :)

[@tidewaterfightingarts]

You bring up an interesting point. I do think Meyer, and likely many of his fellow craftsmen, would have had hand protection depending on the context. This is especially true given that we know he petitioned to hold tournaments, where I imagine many fencers would have had hand protection. And I think we see that in the manual--when he talks about schneiden, he's not always indicating it would be a fight ender. And I would argue that without hand protection, schneiden would almost always be a fight ender. But he says over and over again throughout the manuals pursue with a schneiden until you have another opening to attack. However, I also think it's likely that many people would not have had hand protection.

[@controllerfreak3596]

@@tidewaterfightingarts there are records of people complaining about fencers using long cuffed gloves in fechtschule because it protected their arms.

[@tidewaterfightingarts]

@@controllerfreak3596 Thanks for that info!

[@controllerfreak3596]

In Meyer's time you would not ever want to damage somebody's hands. Whether in a fechtschule or honor duel context, the reason being that the Bergs were relatively small, and just because you had beef with someone, that doesn't mean you want to break the hands of the best tailor in town and put them out of work forever. that would absolutely cause extreme conflict between guilds. schneiden is about controlling the arms and hands as you say, but not damaging them. and even in prior time periods, Hendedrucken, the more aggressive version of schneiden was considered dishonorable even when used on the battlefield.