SOMA - Full Ending + Credits + Epilogue

[@Adamaeus88]

When you see the shot of the satellite hovering over the now desolate Earth and realize somewhere down there, deep below the surface of the sea in unfathomable depths, poor little Simon is sitting there in complete darkness, alone.

[@def14molester58]

Actually, if he was smart enough he would be able to understand the new form of his existence and the fact that he was immortal, his body wasn't of organic form any longer, so I guess all he would require was the electricity, the problem is the consciousness, what’d u do if you were an immortal diving suit with human consciousness? And again IMHO plenty of options, but first things first, he’d probably adapt and take the reality, and MB he could try to repair Catherine's omnitool and put her consciousness into another diving suit lol some romantic relationships maybe (seeing 2 immortal diving suits making love is seeing of exceptional quality I must say), or she’d probably hate her existence and hate him, and she’d prefer to die (in terms of dying - termination of the “session” of consciousness by simply turning it off and erasing from a device). I think Catherine used Simon anyway because she needed to justify her own existence and in terms of saving remnants of humanity was an inspiring act of heroism.

[@DetonatressM]

@@def14molester58 She's been fried due to getting angry and overloading the omnitool, but he can still climb the Omega gun to the Omega platform (someone did that before him) and from there he can try to dive back into the sea and go to other places (if he survives the fall).

[@SuperGeronimo999]

Makes me wonder how we will die... chance is, we will kill ourselves in nuclear war one day. But Earth will die when the Sun expands and burns it up. You would get fried in that boiling ocean.

[@joshuajoaquin5099]

@@SuperGeronimo999 will take super long so it doesn't matter for us today

[@ddted2448]

If I remember correctly Simon's body has a battery. He'll die, eventually.

[@richardhunter3441]

God the way he says "please don't leave me alone" is so heart breaking

[@PianoGuitarAndSongs]

It was deserving since the way he treated her like wtf 😒

[@kevinmillerwaynejr5852]

@@PianoGuitarAndSongs Uh no nobody can blame the way he was reacting like tf u smoking? Lmao

[@JadieMae23]

@@kevinmillerwaynejr5852 tf was HE smoking? Catherine never lied lmao Simon knew how this junk worked

[@dunkyking6310]

@@JadieMae23 actually, if I recall correctly, Catherine tried hiding the truth by sedating the second Simon, but she was too late

[@dudewitdagoggles8756]

I wouldn't wish this on anyone

[@evilemperordude]

"They're not us!" Funny coming from a copy of a copy.

[@AliAsif303]

But sad at the same time you know.

evilemperordude "I'm sorry you feel that way, Simon. I'm proud of what we did. Make sure something of the hundreds of thounsands years of human history survived-- that something lives on."

Really?

You sure?

[@Nimbus3690]

He means that they aren't that specific copy since that copy did all the work

[@Nitro852]

Simon and Cathrine will now live on in VR-Chat forever ♡

[@kaiserdarkangel]

Because they are real.....

[@lasajnae9626]

Bruh

[@MisterJohnDoe]

Well, there goes the mood.

[@dex3625]

the worst possible place they could've gotten into

[@MultiLimpet]

Until hard drive failure

[@bickflick]

Probably one of, if not the most heart-tugging and thought provoking games I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing.

[@mesmer3780]

There was no "coin toss." It was a lie to give Simon false hope and keep him going. A lie with good-ish intentions... But poor Simon 2 and 3 were never getting on the Ark.

[@vitalixy3578]

Actually, she explained it to him multiple times. Its Simon that refused to understand and accept the reality of the situation. He knew it the moment he learned about him dying in 2015, he knew it when he saw his copy sitting in the chair. He just couldn't accept it. Catherine wasn't making him false promises, Simon was making himself false promises.

[@fo1354]

well the weird thing is that the Simon you play as continued into the high-pressure suit. sure its for gameplay reasons. but it also might've been true that the copy gained the consciousness of the old human. and the old version was now just a copy. But it is impossible to say

[@russian_knight]

@@vitalixy3578 can't really blame him

[@BasileosHerodou]

@@vitalixy3578 For some of the last humans alive he definitely wasnt the smartest.

[@BasileosHerodou]

@@vitalixy3578 For some of the last humans alive he definitely wasnt the smartest.

[@jimjellyjinjamjimbo]

The idea of the last of humanity living as ones and zeroes on a satellite floating through space is dreadful.

[@Gustav_Kuriga]

That could be all you are. This could all be a simulation. Does that make it any less real to you?

[@AnonD38]

What if we all are already nothing but programs in a simulation, what difference would it make? We continue living.

[@masonhidari]

again with this retarded "We might be living in a simulation" . with that logic , god is real and we either go to hell or heaven after we die

[@SuperCaptainFail]

Some room temp IQs in the replies

[@masonhidari]

@@SuperCaptainFailwhich ones?

[@AintPopular]

Super underrated game. Frictional are getting an award from me for best horror and storytelling games

[@MemerDad]

Definitely

[@barnaszeder224]

They all died when the comet oblitierated the surface they were living on borrowed time those who survived down on Pathos II. The idea of scanning yoir conscience and putting it in a virtual reality is giving some level of comfort to those who don't believe in reincarnation or passing on to a higher dimensions once you served your purpose in this reality.

[@amr19932012]

please retry please retry please retry please retry please retry please retry ,,,

[@sentinel8534]

Failure...

[@samhicks97]

Real talk, This game changes you. 8/10/2021 Edit: The way i said "the game changes you' seemed vague. in more clearer terms the game gave you another vast perspective on how you view the world around you, just some clarification.

[@wanderer-xr5pz]

You're not lying

[@edwardharriss1463]

Oh it sure does

[@antonio-onism9814]

True...

[@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841]

True. this game ending truly are haunting me

[@WikiZeruel]

Played this game for the first time man Im empty what a game

[@alexvalin9085]

I think if i were Simon 3, I would just leave and climb up the barrel of the space gun, try to find a piece of furniture to float on, and just set out to the sea and hope I find land. Explore the rest of the world of the apocalypse with however long my battery gave me.

[@yeyien2320]

I m agree when we see the earth there are nothing !!!!

[@MegaHaydoss]

It'd definitely be better than spending X amount of years trapped in the dark depths of the ocean, that's for sure!

[@Tenderofyggdrasil]

You'd find omega station, a girl did that, the woman who ran the omega space gun climbed it and reached the the omega station and died there from ash and smog within the day. Simon would live but why would you want to see everything gone except you. Bodies, fallen society, flames, it would make your reality so much more painful.

[@MisterPikol]

@@Tenderofyggdrasil which character did that ? I don't recall that

[@Tenderofyggdrasil]

@@MisterPikol can't remember her name. Look up "Soma To Climb a Mountain"

[@CarParts08382]

Simon 4's new perspective went from 02:32 to 07:28. It gives you a small sense of what Catherine went through a multitude of times throughout the game's story.

[@GunplayerTV]

When i made it to the end of the Game, i was still sad about Simon left back on Earth.

[@212th]

Yeah. 5,000 meters below sea level. With nothing but monsters and corpses. Personally, I'd rather die than live a fake life in the ark. I'd go insane.

[@Wolfshifter]

+GunplayersAnimePlace If you let the WAU live earlier, he commits suicide by going back to kill it in the epilogue.

[@Wolfshifter]

+Cridone I watched the Krillin Plays version with that ending. After watching all the different endings, it's possible he edited it that way and I think it's a better ending. No need to be a dick and call people liars.

[@Wolfshifter]

+Cridone "I'm not calling you a liar! I'm saying I'm going to call you a liar." Lol. I know what you meant. I'm just giving you a hard time. Look up Krillin Plays Soma Finale and skip to the end. You can see it yourself.

[@verikan4241]

+Wolfshifter Saw the video of that guy Krillin, ended up with headaches thanks to his stupid screaming, It's pretty obvious that it was edited.

[@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3]

As much as I love this ending, I think the biggest failure of it is having us stay in the Simon who launches the Ark first. They should have had the player get sent onto the Ark first, just like we did with the Omicron version and then after that sequence we're thrown back into the previous Simon and get that scene of him getting angry, and then back into the Omicron Simon for a final gut punch that the original copy we start the adventure out as was left behind.

[@rageinducer2455]

Bruh......this ending ain't depressing enough for ya?

[@MinnoqWV]

I agree.

[@Fab1us]

You know you can kill the Omicron copy of Simon?

[@AnonD38]

But that's the point. The ending isn't meant to be depressing, it's a happy end for the line of beings who refer to themselves as "Simon".

[@freshcarrot2253]

@@AnonD38 it's meant to be both uplifting and depressing. While the copy that gets sent to the Ark is as real as the original, the original never loses its realness. And in the case of Simon 2, that is the worst outcome

At the end I can see South America, Africa and Europe devastated.

[@TheoTungsten]

Those look more like Australia and the Americas to me.

[@frozencryst]

Probably the most depressing ending in video games history. The way Simon said don’t leave me alone in a secluded place is heart-wrenching. What a thoughtful storytelling!

[@AnonD38]

A new instance of him gets to live the life he wanted. I'd say that's the best result he could have realistically achieved.

[@Suthek]

@@AnonD38 Well, for him personally it's worthless beyond the accomplishment.

[@AnonD38]

@@Suthek He has secured his own life in a new form. I‘d say that’s the pinnacle of accomplishment.

[@Suthek]

@@AnonD38 No he hasn't. His life is going on down in the complex, just as the original's life went on in the 20th/21st century. Sure, he has added two new lives to the ark before launching it (launching it is the accomplishment here, IMO), and one of them has his memories and personality, but it's no more connected to him than any other of the consciousnesses in there he never met.

[@AnonD38]

@@Suthek The individual calling himself Simon might have died, but the idea of Simon lives on in his descendants, which in this case are new instances of the individual calling himself Simon. One such instance has helped another instance reach the dream of a peaceful life among the stars. The instance is gone, but Simon remains. Why be sad that your life ends? Be happy that your existence continues in another form. I think that clinging to life as an individual to the point that you envy another instance of yourself is the pinnacle of selfishness. I would gladly give my life if it means another me gets to live the life I always wanted.

[@nathang9868]

The scene, the music, the little probe just in front of the destroyed unhabitable Earth, the blue Sun... All of this almost made me cry, i can't stop thinking about the human-made structures left on Earth, a huge company below the sea level, two robots who are still thinking and talking in a place wich looks like a hell, and horribles monsters without a capacity to think like a human. Everything was fine, before the January, 14th of 2104, Earth was beautiful and all human were happy and conscious of a *real* life... All this mess, all this depressing history, all of this fucking suffering is because of a comet. A frickin little object from space destroyed all life. This is just unbelievable. Frictional Games just did an wonderful, a magic, an awesome work. Congtratulations to them.

[@antonio-onism9814]

Couldn't agree more. What terrified me in SOMA more than anything in any other game ever was that feeling of wanting to come back home... can you just imagine the mental impact that thought could have on you if it came in this situation? In other games at least there's a place you can call home, people who you can call friends, even if extremely far away.. at least they exist somewhere. But in SOMA, there's nothing... no one... nowhere...

[@SamuelBlack84]

It happened on our world, too, with the dinosaurs It might happen to us someday And the universe will never know we were here

[@1990patricio]

ARK Catherine telling you "Well we did" like she knew what happen to them down there and she knows Simon didnt realise.

[@jorgecabezas1966]

She is the only one who is ware of that, and she didn't tell him that. She is really a cold person

[@Neo2Rus]

@@jorgecabezas1966 But she did, again and again over course of the game. Just like when you found Catherine dead body, when you copied conscience to another model and more so.

[@che3se1495]

@@Neo2Rus Yeah, everyone's acting like Catherine tricked Simon, but she's explained it so many times. In fact, Catherine thinks Simon DOES understand, as shown by how frustrated she gets with the Simon that is left behind not understanding AGAIN after she's explained it several times! Simon is just a fuckin' idiot.

[@foobarbazbaa5598]

Agreed, I think she just gave up trying to explain, knowing it'd just make him mad again. Simon can't handle the reality of it so he keeps shutting his eyes, and she lets him.

[@toastee5421]

didn't he realise when he switched Power Suits?

[@simondg42]

And after years.... It's still one of the when not the most heartbreaking ends in history.... Imagine you are there... being alone in this world... unbelievable sad....

[@skatetrooper5285]

Well start to find survivors from then on out...

[@Mob69420]

@@skatetrooper5285 thing is, no one survived other than Pathos-II

[@shem7146]

@@Mob69420 there was no hard evidence there's no one left

[@Mob69420]

@@shem7146 dude, the storms, the surface burning, every natural disaster occurred at once.

[@Mob69420]

The impact triggered firestorms in many areas on Earth with the Iberian Peninsula being severely affected. It ejected enormous amounts of dust and debris into the atmosphere, making it thick and difficult to operate in. Massive tsunamis inundated the coastlines of the Earth's continents. The impact rendered the surface of the Earth completely barren, killing all surface-dwelling life.

[@perplexedmoth]

TRIVIA: Cut & paste operation in computers work such that the bits on the disk are "copied" to a new destination, and then the original bits are "marked as deleted". So in practice there is never such a thing as "transfer" of data. It is always copied. There is no such thing as the real simon, or the real catherine. Every copy is as real as the original. It's just digital bits, or patterns of carbon hydrogen oxygen nitrogen atoms constituing cells. There is no magic ingredient which makes them real or fake.

[@DetonatressM]

One thing can be transferred though: electricity. But there's probably no way to track a portion of it. Also, teleportation via turning matter into light and then beaming it and reassembling it would keep every part of the original there, but we probably have no way of keeping track of it in order to reassemble all of the components back in the exact order they were previously.

[@perplexedmoth]

@@DetonatressM Not sure if you are familiar with electron drift velocity, but the speed of actual electrons moving through circuitry or wire is only a few meters per hour. However the effect of trillions of electrons pushing each other forward creates the transfer of "information". So in practice the field vectors we call electrons move slower in space than an ant.

[@DetonatressM]

@@perplexedmoth Even if we can keep track of the electrons taken from a person's matter, can we transform all the matter into electrons and put all of their energy there? There's always a loss of something (energy and matter) from a system every time a process is done, so even if keeping track of everything, it would be difficult to make sure you don't add/subtract from the original bunch, and impossible to confirm if the end result is the same consciousness or a copy of it in the absence of the base consciousness.

[@VineFynn]

The only way is if you could ship of Theseus the person's brain while they were alive.

[@SamuelBlack84]

All that we're made up of is atoms and chemicals that believe they're alive Are we really sentient? Or, is it just an illusion?

[@darkAlert2517]

4:38 Amazing music!

[@endurance_pilot]

The sadest thing is, when you see the Satellite you realize the complete humanity is gone forever and only exists in VR. And this is not the meaning of living in my opinion 😔

[@mesmer3780]

I agree. Humanity is extinct. "Mind transfer" and the ARK was a bedtime story humanity told it's self to cope with it's final fade into the dark...

[@mattstorm360]

@@mesmer3780 Maybe it doesn't matter. It doesn't have to matter. Humanity is gone, nothing can be done about it. Antjie Coetzee climbed the barrel of the rail gun all the way up to the Omega platform, where she died alone with a book and bottle of whiskey. Good way to go in a hopeless world if you ask me. The Ark is just a longer book and a bigger bottle.

[@BasileosHerodou]

@@mattstorm360 Who tf is Antjie Coetzee

[@Kniroid]

I mean, if the simulation is virtually indistinguishable from the actual experience of existing, isnt that pretty much the same thing?

[@yooooo8600]

@WungusBill Damn, when you put it like that you're right. I can't really remember whether I left it alive or not, but I probably killed it because it's scary lol

[@yuutokasane3332]

Now that I think about it...Catherine lost all three coin tosses.

[@thegeth4293]

Its not a coin toss, thay was always a bad analogy. Its just a copy, like copying a word document from your hard drive to a flash drive and adding to it. The scan turns a snapshot of your brain into essentially a computer file.

[@sunnylam9902]

@@thegeth4293 The meaning of the coin toss that Catherine speaks of applies to when Simon is born, not when he uploads himself; The Simon who launched the ARK lost the toss the moment his consciousness woke up underwater. The Simon who woke up on the ARK won. Whether it can really be called winning is another question.

[@thegeth4293]

@@sunnylam9902 the simon that launched the ark didnt wake up, he was already awake. Coin toss implies theres a chance dive suit simon can become ark simon when theres not. Its a new instance of simon being created

[@perplexedmoth]

I never liked the coin toss analogy either. Although more superficially it only refers to the fact that one is in a better situation than the other, and hence the winner and the loser of a coin toss. But nothing more than that. There's no chance factor in it, so coin toss is meaningless. It is a deterministic process, one is copied, and now you have two. No coins are tossed, nor needed. Copies don't have an extrinsic existence to them which makes it as if one could have won the coin toss. Then again, one is in a better situation, and the other is not. And somehow one was "lucky".

[@jarskil8862]

There is no coin toss; your old conciousness will always stay in your old body aswell. Its not transferring mind, its copying.

[@evilnet1]

Catherine opening her arms in the end when Simon arrives was so heart warming.

Simon: "Catherine? Please don't leave me alone. Catherine -- Catherine?!"

[@SurvivalHorror82]

This is exactly the message that i have in my ps card...So sad, the most tragic moment of the ending for me too.

@@SurvivalHorror82 Yeah.

[@AfroMan187]

The deterioration of Simon's mental state when he realizes he is completely alone, forever, on a desolate rock is harrowing. The despearation, the fear, the rage, all of it all at once, the voice actor did a good job of making you feel it, the weight of it all...

[@vylbird8014]

Well, if he can pull himself out of his anger, it's not /completely/ hopeless. He may be able to reboot the omnitool. He could walk the barrel to the surface and get a radio going to see if there might be some survivors elsewhere, or establish a connection to the ark. Or try to brave the wildlife and backtrack to the more intact parts of the facility, seek out the less-crazed mockingbirds and help them come to terms with their situation so they can work together on making a few repairs - potentially they could survive for years.

[@SamuelBlack84]

At least Simon has the luxury of ceasing to exist at the end of the game For the rest of us, there are no end credits

[@thenorthwoodsproject]

Best Bitter-sweet ending ever.

[@BakedBanana]

oh, it's been over 5 years since I finished this game and the ending still sticks to me. Such a masterful ending.

[@xLoxLoLex]

I actually replay it from time to time. That's how much I love this game. I even search for new playthroughs of people that haven't played it or knew about it at all to see a new reaction to the game and it's amazing

[@DaParalyzer]

@@xLoxLoLex I watched the original trailers back in 2015 and even the live action videos and I never finished SOMA until today XD. I was a huge Amnesia fan but I was a little kid and didnt have a pc and did not want spoilers so I avoided soma for aw hile

[@betwingmusic]

That was hell of a climatic ending!

[@hb712]

The music of this game is slept on. They went full blade runner and I’m glad they did.

[@brian-us6vw]

Each copy or clone dies off a little each time. The robots even programmed to not see themselves as robots. How sad.

[@Rinzeki02]

They were not programmed, it’s their minds that couldn’t comprehend what they’ve become

[@brian-us6vw]

@@Rinzeki02 Even if that's true it is mostly because the robots are simply robots and they are limited to their own circuitry + processing power. It's like forcing a modern PC to be human. I am pretty sure not all of the original self is copied and some of the process power is limited to what machine is copied on.

[@vylbird8014]

The robot transfers were mostly defective because they were carried out by the WAU. It is programmed to preserve human life at all costs, regardless of mental health, and uploaded any scanned humans it found into inappropriate bodies without any adaptation process. Only two of them came out with sanity intact - Simon because he ended up in a body close enough to human that he could adjust slowly, and Catherine because was already an engineer with a specialisation in neural scanning and simulation and so better able to understand her situation.

[@99baking]

If Catherine had been able to, I feel like she would have had Simon #3 die the moment the "transfer" completed, in the way that that one scientist described. That way, only Simon #4 would experience the continuity of life, and Simon #3 would have died believing he was safe

[@djgrizzly9353]

Soma did the unthinkable and tell us the truth. And that is that not every story has a happy ending

[@rikardevans5431]

well in a way i think the end is a happy one, the real simon never experienced the horrors of phatos and a copy of simon got inside the ark.

[@AnonD38]

Simon (or at least an instance of him) together with Catherine (or at least an instance of her) and rest of humanity (or at least an instance of them) get to live the next thousand years in digital bliss, until the inevitable shut down of the satellite and the final actual death of humanity. It's a happy end.

[@philhuntsman7588]

white person ass comment

[@SamuelBlack84]

Life doesn't have a happy ending

[@AmbersweetCakes]

Bittersweet

[@HiCZoK]

The audiovisual combination of desolate earth, satelite, incredible soundtrack... the feeling that they are all actually dead....

[@AnonD38]

You don't really die until you are forgotten. As long as the satellite exists humanity isn't dead.

[@edwardharriss1463]

I always prefer to watch the ending at night, it's so much more immersive that way

[@masteredd23]

This games ending was incredible. I have never been so speechless and torn apart after finishing any other game, book or movie. Frictional games have truly created a piece of art that is way to underrated. Worst of all is that nobody I'm telling about this game and the ending will ever have the same emotions/feelings that I had, since they didn't experience the game itself. Crawling through the depths of the ocean and escaping from horrible structure-gel powered corpses only to save a copy of yourself and the last remaining bits of humanity onto a satellite that probably will get destroyed sooner or later... I still get goosebumps when I see the satellite scene or hear the beatiful melancholic ending theme by Mikko Tarmia.

[@antonio-onism9814]

I know, I totally agree! And this game really is so underrated. It definitely deserves a lot more attention.

[@KG-ck9hb]

Why doesn't Simon climb the omega space gun? I mean it's certainly possible due to that one worker that climbed it to see the devastated earth one more time and died upon reaching the surface due to the toxic gasses. Simon is a robot so he won't die from reAching the surface.

[@BauliusTorvoltos]

Because he isnt a robot as people think. Each of simons clones at PATHOS-II are simply a dead corpse with a cortex chip jammed into it's skull and stuffed into a suit. That dead body can take damage and wear down. Bear in mind that simon still acts as if he has a living body, clearly feeling exhausted while running around and such because he cannot really come to terms with his whole being a brain on a chip deal. Also that gun is really, really long.

[@joshuacarpenter7447]

@@BauliusTorvoltos I want to kind of feel like that was just for gameplay purposes because a dead body wouldn't be pumping any blood or produce anything that would have gotten the muscles and such to respond so that he was able to run and so on. In the case of Simon 3 though, he's not just a body..he also has the structure gel holding it together.

[@bartosz9144]

both ending are bad. Being stuck underwater with crazy robots or stuck in simulation with only 1 person. I would like to see ending when you save those people and put them on Ark

[@joshuacarpenter7447]

@@bartosz9144 There was more than one person on the Ark rofl..

[@bartosz9144]

@@joshuacarpenter7447 wow really how do you know? cause i might miss something :)

[@ShadowKNighT788]

Nothing makes me cry more than this ending

[@markosimunic4770]

And thus they live happily in a VR program in the satelite........until one wire fails because.....equipment does not last forever and requires maintenance.

[@milesbbop9563]

Pretty sure if they can copy consciousness, they probably have the wiring part figured out at this point.

[@shanechannel7066]

Simon and Catherine have been traveling together for what seems like days, correct? But since Catherine is a brain scan, and every time she's plugged in n' out of a computer, time jumps forward abruptly like a movie skipping scenes. From her perspective is only been a few hours between the moment Simon found her and their ending argument.

[@SuppressedSoldat]

You know damn well for a fact that ending would of hit more if they had shown the ark segment first and just when you thought it was a happy ending they cut to the original two just after the upload+launch and are left with the ark floating above the decimated world.

[@RPGfreak23]

it would have sucked sooo much but i truly feel the after credits on the ark should have been left out. The ending alone is super heart wrenching and impactful and would have meant so much more not to get to see the fruit of your labor like simon didnt

[@JG-xt7yg]

I like having the ark scene, because in reality simon did make it on the ark a different simon but simon nonetheless. I liked how it showed how everything seems to have worked out but there is always that thought of another simon down there alone and afraid. It reminds you what you did to your old body (depending on if you killed it or not).

[@endurance_pilot]

@@JG-xt7yg perfect 👍

[@unwantedscrub]

I'm glad I got to see Earth

[@GamingSpoiler]

For those who watched the Matrix, which I assume most of you did, then it's about people unaware of living in a hypothetical world, a simulation, yet the only thing that made them move on, is the fact that they didn't know. Now I think about it, what if I were in their place? sure, at the beginning anything would seem better than the hell I used to live in, under sea settlements, being chased by a rogue A.I. but then what? at some point I would start getting sick of an alternate reality that I know doesn't exist, at some point I'll wish if I can - just for a moment - take a look at the real world, I might even start asking myself: "what if things are better now?" but the one thing that would kill me is the fact that I will never know. Soon, I'll lose the capability of continuing, and as time goes by, I'll go crazy... But hey, maybe it's just me

[@perplexedmoth]

@@bena7869 Except people believe a sack of meat and electrons bouncing around in it is more meaningful, and they think this is real.

[@antonio-onism9814]

I would wanna go home. This is why this game is so horrifying, just think about it, in most if not all other games, there is your home, even if far far away, it still exists. But in SOMA... there's nothing left. Even if you were to find a way back to the past, there would be no point since you'd already know how it's all going to end... and only thing left for do is to remain where you are, surrounded by death and black ocean.

[@andrewkang7157]

I think they must of embraced each other at the end

[@الطفلالشجاعالاناقة]

To be accurate, in the game when simon transplant his mind to the other body, the first one was passing out . So simon turn off life source out of him . So thats mean in the end after Catherine left him behind , she knew he will pass out and eventually die. That is logical thinking according to the arm condition. So you can say simon part of him died in earth but part of him still kicking in the ark.

[@PurgPurg]

I don’t exactly know what you’re saying, but unfortunately, that’s not really true. The “coin toss” thing was a convenient and comforting lie. In reality, all you’re doing is making an exact clone of yourself to “carry on your legacy” but the original version of your consciousness is going to stay in that body, and it’s going to die.

[@JOXCY]

I remember playing this game in university five years ago. I was pretty much locked away in my room for a week straight playing it to the ending, I was so immersed. The story was so impactful, and the ending has never left me.

[@madara657]

This is why i didn`t kill Simon 2. Now Simon 3 still has a buddy

[@PlayNiceFolks]

Damnit, I'd read a book about that.

[@r1ko.9]

Yes, but they can't meet. 3rd Simon is at the bottom of the ocean under enormous pressure. The elevator he used to descend into the Abyss no longer works, it broke down after the descent, and the suit of the 2nd Simon will simply be torn to shreds when descending into the abyss. Besides, the 2nd Simon will never be able to get out of that room, because he does not have an omni-tool

[@UmBelenense]

Strong emotions may lead the system to shut down The same happens to her

[@milesbbop9563]

I think the system was slowly breaking down anyway after the launch.

[@safe-keeper1042]

I still think the 'bad ending' should have been shown last.

[@simondg42]

One of the saddest ending ever... Simon must life in this bullshit world. ...ALONE... and this music... Omg.. My heart is bleeding...😭

[@gamecrystal4253]

That normal

[@1FameL]

One of the best endings in the industry.

[@taco10lex]

i like to think somehow 3rd simon was able to make it to 2nd simon and they could be friends in a way so they dont have to be alone...

[@strv81]

Now they can both suffer except none of them can leave the place they are

Simon: "Catherine! I can't believe we actually made it."

[@PriusPrime]

Amazing

[@jreeve1979]

it doesnt matter how many times i rewatch this or hear this haunting melody, it makes me feel such a sadness that this is more than what happened to simon, but the end of mankind, just 1s and 0s floating through space till eventually something goes wrong with the ARK and the last remnants of humanity just suddenly end

[@PleePlo]

Played this game recently (I know I’m late), 10/10 game. Really gets you thinking.

[@MrAnarmlessman]

if this was reality; I’m not a fan of the ark concept. It is trading one abyss for another.

[@PlayNiceFolks]

A lesser of..blah blah.

[@PlayNiceFolks]

A perpetual Dyson sphere sounds nice. But we are doomed to die on this planet. The elements that are used to make the most basic of technologies .. they're gone in about a hundred years... that's assuming current production levels, forget about what happens when the "third world" wants two ipads three cars and ten air conditioning units". 40% of Earth's trees are gone. Soon, humans will be gone. We could have used this globe as a stepping stone. Instead, it's a coffin.

[@tristanglock4925]

as someone with engineering experience this scene takes on an additional sad note. That being that at beast the arc has a mean service life of about 25yrs that being how long it will take before the solar panels fail and the arc is little more than a big hunk of metal.

[@99baking]

This takes place a decent bit into the future, I would imagine they had much more adaptive materials considering the existence of structure gel. Catherine said the ark was designed to potentially last thousands of years, and within the simulation that time could be stretched out even further

[@hawkeyenextgen7117]

“I don’t care what form I take, as long as I get to carry on.” There’s something powerful about that answer

[@milesbbop9563]

It's another you. You are preserving what originally existed without it being the existing YOU.

[@dontdoitpls4237]

it's unfortunate that this game isn't nearly as popular as the amnesia series. it is, by far and away, the most thought-provoking psychological horror games i've ever played. fuck the monsters and the chases. the real horror is what sets onto you after you finish the game. the thoughts of the meaning of humanity, how feeble of a species we are and yet how much we can accomplish. it's incredibly. it's truly amazing how open-ended the end of the game is, too, your thoughts on it are solely based on your own perspective about things such as life, meaning of humanity, sorrow, or perhaps even carelessness and so on. considering the recent trend of horror games, it'd be a huge shame if frictional games ever shut down or stopped making em - they're pretty much the only ones nowadays who still know how to make a good horror game without throwing jumpscares at you.

[@MilesMods]

The rest of the games are obnoxious with jumps scares. Soma i think was an amazing accident.

[@dontdoitpls4237]

@@MilesMods are you talking about the rest of frictional games' games? amnesia had a few moments, but overall they absolutely do not adhere to the industry "standard". i mean, take penumbra and outlast for example. two entirely different executions on the horror genre

[@aaronfieldman3957]

How do we know we're not inside an ARK already, drifting across space?

[@gamecrystal4253]

Because of 2020 this world is not a Paradise

[@aliwill802]

That’s the thing One is where they are safe in the Ark because it’s continuing But his ignorance doesn’t acknowledge that when he is loaded on to it he is another copy. He doesn’t want to know of what was left behind. Himself in the depths of the sea.

[@DGneoseeker1]

Well, if we are, the simulation sucks.

[@vinylaccord2742]

What does it mean to be Human

[@paulziakovic8536]

To be a robot is like being pushed by the god under the sea (WAU the true responsible for Pathos = sadness) to meet the one up in the sky (Helios, the Sun) in order to artificially forget sadness. To have a consciousness is to know it. To be human (= purely subjective) is either to embrace it or fight it depending on your political convictions.

[@thebutchernassa8384]

42

[@aranerem5569]

It is heartbreaking. That ending, being trapped down there in that darkness

[@J_C_CH]

The real question is: what is the point of the survey? Nobody in the real world is ever going to analyse it.

[@TheNintenfan64]

Exactly. That’s what makes it sadder.

[@AvalancheGameArt]

I think it is to prove you wrong in the end, i mean, the first time around i answered negatively, because the idea sucked, but then, it went differently.

[@jarskil8862]

They started this mind transfer program before everyone was dead. Atkeast some humans were planned to stay alive on Earth during Launch of the Ark. But everyone died

[@percivalconcord9209]

This could be an episode of Black Mirror.

[@jackbronston5731]

The episode of "White Christmas" pretty much already covered this territory.

[@chrisconstanti9283]

@@jackbronston5731 I got Playtest vibes from this.

[@Lost_In_Peace]

@@jackbronston5731 I thought I was the only one who thought about that episode when playing this game.

[@VirusL4D]

@@jackbronston5731White Christmas is my favorite episode. That and „Shut up and dance“

[@rieJW]

After the whole hellscape Simon was put through, the ending where he wakes up in the Ark was incredibly cathartic. I remember just being in awe and basking in the environment for a long while. Such a phenomenal game

[@seanchrisregner3044]

This is so mind bending

[@GreenituIjo]

*gets hit by a space debree* and that's it!

[@covancide]

When I completed that last survey from my point of view (not Simon's) I noticed the results came worse than the first time I did it lol. 🤧🤧

[@fr1zl]

This game is very prophetic as to where i believe we are headed.

[@leahmsiscorner3341]

Catherine done and complete simon done without the word complete and simon says

[@justthispc669]

I felt so empty after completing the game, especially after he begged Catherine not to leave him alone. I remember just sitting back in my chair for the rest of the credits thinking: "Holy shit.."

[@cellulanus]

The reason I don't destroy the WAU is because it's the true legacy of humanity. Something that will grow, change, and live on. The satellite is no legacy, it's just a gravestone.

[@danny8284]

but won’t it revive sarah’s corpse? it will keep her body alive despite the fact that she wanted to die

[@misty_radio4958]

The wau wont survive either its stated in the game it will also only last another decade at most until it too fails

[@zzz-tu8ft]

I wonder how the ending would be overall if it was switched. The first ending showing Simon on the Ark, then the credits, then after the credits showing the Simon who was left behind. I feel like maybe it would be a bit sadder? Idk

[@SnacxAttac]

Catherine is evil! She did lie to Simon. When he said "we need to get on the ark first" Catherine said we need to launch first. Which is bs because they could have copied and then launched. But Catherine knew that when Simon figured out he was not going on the Ark he may have refused to launch at all. (Btw I like Catherine)

[@Vityvikt0r]

If she had told Simon the truth, probably he would've never launched the ARK. They never had the chance to *personally* get in the ARK, only their copies, and at least they managed to get them inside, so we can see the After-credits scene.

[@perplexedmoth]

What's the big deal and fuss when they themselves were copies.

[@angelfuturejob]

You can’t argue with ignorance

[@mop9507]

okay. 2 years old. i think catherine did the right thing. she gave whatever was left of humanity a chance to live on the ARK. good of the many outweighs the good of the few, right?

[@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841]

This game is Masterpiece in term of story

[@top5trending599]

I totally Agree With You!!

[@wisdomleader85]

Has no one bothered to select "accept death" in the post-credit survey to find out what would happen or do our choices even matter at that point?

[@danny8284]

i was wondering that too, i haven't seen anything about it

[@leonelsandoval6952]

If you accept death in the survey, nothing happens. I already tried it.

[@jarskil8862]

It just sends message to PATHOS-II that says that you are feeling unwell. But everyone is dead down there so nothing happens.

[@thegeth4293]

The one thing that always bothered me is the stupid coin flip analogy. Its a copy and paste, like copying some java code from one computer to another and running it. 2 exist in the same state they did when copied and both are free to be edited independently

[@sunnylam9902]

The meaning of the coin toss that Catherine speaks of applies to when Simon is born, not when he uploads himself; The Simon who launched the ARK lost the toss the moment his consciousness woke up underwater. The Simon who woke up on the ARK won. Whether it can really be called winning is another question.

[@turneraustin1561]

the coin toss analogy was a lie to make Simon feel like he had a chance of being on the ark. Simon 3 never would be on the ark because it works as a copy-paste instead of a cut-paste. It would be an entirely different Simon on the ark, one who benefited from the previous simon's hard work

[@wr2571]

Catherine died after the scan, so she known what Simon are still on Phi and Simon in the «Ark» just a copy of antecedent Simon, but she did not said anything about that to Simon in the «Ark».(sorry for my English)

[@rocitizen]

Moral of the story: Don't let Elon Musk buy NASA

[@FaLaTiCi]

Epic ending !

[@UmarNizan]

WHY DIDNT SAITAMA PUNCH THE METEOR

[@AshrunMod]

I have a thought that if something bad happen to that satellite. The Ark, Simon and Catherine, everything will vanish just like that. Simon and Chaterine enjoying their time together and suddenly it just turned into pitch black and emptiness like wow. It freak me out just to feel about it.

[@StoFumato]

poor cate cant teach to a guy how a copy works...

[@zoltanperei4789]

And Carl is still waiting for help. :/

[@MrChaosOK]

No, he's either dead due to power loss or fried due to flipping that one switch.

[@Honse18]

@@MrChaosOK how about that robot on the other place

[@SicariusCZ]

one of the most fantastic and cruel ends of all games what I played

[@planetkc]

Stellaris has a planet easter egg that you can find the digital copies of an extinct species on a supercomputer and you have choices that you can pick.

[@gottalight3574]

I didn't liked the ending in the first playthrough, now it probably has to be one, if not, the best ending in any videogame ever

[@enpi969]

Terrifying perspective. This makes u to love every moment of being alive, being with ur most closet people around: parents, husband, wife, kids etc. One day you will die and they all be gone too. So cherish that moment of “now”...

[@stlkr]

Haunting. Beautiful. Terrifying. Philosophical. That's what this game is.

[@generalesdeath5836]

Hilarious but stupid and messed up if the ARK satellite blew up at the end.

[@DetonatressM]

Or fell into the sun.

[@antonio-onism9814]

Yup. Entire humanity including your families, friends and everyone you know dying in agonising death... very funny.

[@Nekusa]

@@antonio-onism9814 they probably wouldn't even know.

[@sabrinacosta5667]

Plottwist :Another meteor hits the arc But really i cant help but feeling sad and disturbed by this ending and the fact that one day it can be turn into reality make it more emocional Also is kinda a reality in 2017 a few people simulate a the brain of a worm on a lego robot

[@DGneoseeker1]

That would have made for an interesting alternate ending. ~Ark gets wiped out by meteor~ ~Curb your enthusiasm theme starts playing~

[@joshpingley1961]

Awesome ending to this game ! This just goes to show that a good ending may also have let downs and the character simon is faced with the harsh reality of his situation in the end.

[@jugglingbeast]

This game is a Masterclass in voice acting.

[@PuppetierMaster]

See the fun part is this "Simon" thinks its the Human one, when Simon is long dead and the artificial embedded memories remain. Ironic in a way, Simon is long dead and his lasting effect on Humanity is the last real thing left of him. Very humbling when you think about it, your memory materializes to a programmed machine that saves Humanity.

[@doublebloggers6661]

This ending is one of the most debatable ones wether it’s a really happy ending because now they escaped from earth or simply depressing because now humanity just lives in a fictional world and aren’t even real, just some minds in a computer.

[@cr4yv3n]

But they KNOW they are in a simulation. And pretty sure a limited one. Nothing they do inside matters and they KNOW it

[@cr4yv3n]

@WungusBill but you KNOW your actions don't matter. Catherine is a psychopath but Simon 4 KNOWS his existence is a program.

[@squirleyspitmonkey3926]

They're not even really minds. It's just a bunch of digital processes processing in a computer. It's like setting your sims on auto, and they take care of their own needs. That's all it is.

[@cr4yv3n]

@WungusBill true but if said brain lacks stimulation it goes insane. Think of Truman show...forever, with no escape.

[@TheGimbishGlob]

@@cr4yv3n I know this comment was made 2 years ago but does being fake really matter if you feel fulfillment at all, if you’re happy does being in a computer really matter?

[@harunh_arts]

When I play this game, I understand and accept my fate and have no problem killing the copy. But I have to comfort my wife when she plays this game, it hits her hard.

[@generalesdeath5836]

I can’t empathize with or relate to Simon’s lack of logic and comprehension when he freaks out. But that’s a result of making him a character, rather than having a “silent protagonist”; something necessary in this game due to how its story works.

[@JG-xt7yg]

Hes angry and afraid. Hes not thinking rationally hes too panicked.

[@Infinitydev-lh2bo]

Would anybody think “logically”? You’re a reanimated cyborg corpse living on a dead planet all alone. Who in the hell would be like “yeah a bunch of us get to live in space...I’m here...COOL OMG!”

[@ishachan]

The brain damage at the beginning of the game might have something to do with it.

[@sentinel8534]

@@JG-xt7yg I think if I were Simon, I would have died from stress overcharge. Plus the part at Theta in that waking nightmare... all the dead, all the tragedies... and no humanity left to fight for...

[@davelo3506]

Does the Simon on the ark ever think about the Simon deep below who went through horrors just to bring him peace that he will never find?

[@Sebek031]

Nahhhh he believes that he is him. That his mind was transferred not copied into the Ark. Catherine won't tell him for his sake.

[@davelo3506]

@@Sebek031 thanks for explaining I was confused