Joe Calzaghe vs Mario Veit (2nd fight) / Джо Кальзаге - Марио Файт (2-й бой)

[@alidaygo619]

joe Calzaghe is one of the most underrated fighters ever

[@mizofan]

+alidaygo619 Certainly- as shown, by among other things 1) Hopkins being champ 6 years after Cazlaghe beat him, 2) Kessler (in unbeaten prime before Calzaghe beat him) beating prime Froch after an injury kept him out of the ring, 3) Veit, whom Calzaghe stopped twice though at that time Veit otherwise got to a 48-0 record and was the first of only 2 men to beat current light heavy champ Brahmer, 4) his demolition of unbeaten Lacy regarded as mong the very best p4p boxers at the time 5) his overcoming hand trouble and 6) his unbeaten record.

[@alidaygo619]

mizofan Yes bruh Calzaghe was the man

[@alexbarros8550]

He was a beast

[@sheruffa6032]

Underrated? certainly from certain television commentators,their inadequacy can be traced on youtube,,someone in particular was embarrassing,but those who practiced boxing, including coaches, have never underestimated Joe, who was a force of nature!

[@checkandbalance2903]

Dear god your ridiculous.. Jeff Lacy was a prospect and not a P4P fighter lmao. He had 21 fights and hadn’t even fought at world class level yet... P4P best ?!?! Dear god talk about revisionism. Mario Viet has no real opponents. The Hopkins won was good but Hopkins lost 5 fights at LHW so he was a pretty beatable fighter. Calzaghe was cleverly managed. Good but not great. Funny how you leave out how Andre Ward destroyed Kessler with ease

[@willrichards7695]

I love people commenting about how joe calzaghe never beat anyone of anyone stature/past their prime. Question - why are you wasting your time watching this and commenting? Watch boxers you love to watch.

[@checkandbalance2903]

Because people like to defend the sport of boxing by calling out fighters who tried to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes. This was a typical Calzaghe opponent. A padded record but not at all dangerous

[@sheruffa6032]

​@@checkandbalance2903 The truth is that you are envious, you are present in every Calzaghe video, you cannot understand how it is possible for a boxer like Calzaghe despite not having the body of Brewer, Veit, Eubank, Manners, Lacy, Reid, of Mitchell, etc., he has outclassed them all, here escape the physical laws try to exorcise Calzaghe denying his successes, but I am sorry for you Calzaghe has existed and has won world belts, holding them among other things for a long time, all without being born in the USA, and will be remembered as one of the best boxers in his class, an unbeaten boxer, a great-speed boxer, an incredible endurance, one of the best defense ever seen in boxing, an exciting, boxer incredibly spectacular, these results obtained through a father who improvised as a coach and gave his son on the roof of the world, always remaining close to them, I would not like to prolong the comm ento, I tell you that in my little experience after having probably seen 250 or 300 boxing matches both of a master and a professional level, I can tell you serenely and without fear of being denied that boxers like Calzaghe are born once every 30 or 40 years, this former coaches and former boxers said, and I fully share their opinion, Calzaghe was number one, and even today he would serenely dominate his category, so you should accept this fact, his career is documented, there are no tricks it deceives was simply an extraordinary boxer you like it or not!

[@checkandbalance2903]

Again you make a claim and provide ZERO evidence. I’m asking you to name one famous trainer or fighter who called Calzaghe a once every 40 year fighter ?? You can’t because this exists only in your fantasy. You are a Calzaghe super fan and that’s fine. You mention Mitchel Brewer, Lacy veit ?? These are B and C class fighters !!! Who cares that Calzaghe out classed them ?? Those fighters were outclassed by many other average fighters. Your not an educated boxing fan... you are a Joe Calzaghe fan. Your blowing his accomplishments and talent out of proportion. Weather you like it or not.

[@checkandbalance2903]

Well ?? I’m still waiting for you link to a fighter or coach who said Calzaghe is a once every 40 years fighter !?!? Truth is Box Rec does not even put Calzaghe in its top 100 list. HE IS NOT LISTED IN THE TOP 100 ... you have a fantasy you invented in your own mind

[@checkandbalance2903]

Manuel I am STILL waiting for you proof any coach or boxer ever said Calzaghe was a once in 40 years fighter ??? Can you please substantiate your claim... Seriously.., make the fighter or the coach that said this. I’m sick of you Calzaghe suckers making these insane untrue claims

[@leesandle68]

Fight of the year in my opinion.

[@bobbybishop6413]

A good fight. Veit at least took it to Joe, as long as he could keep up for.

[@raider101416]

Oh look a German gets to fight for the title in Germany, what a surprise.

[@mizofan]

Apart from his 2 stoppages by Calzaghe, Veit's record then was 48-0, and he was the first of only 2 men to beat current light heavy champ Brahmer. He was no mug but Calzaghe destroyed him twice easily.

[@heavenhelp1982]

I've got to ask, why are you trying so hard to defend Mario Veit? Talking about him being "48-0 apart from the losses to Calzaghe" and so on. That would be like saying Brian Nielsen was a great fighter because he went 49-0 before Dicky Ryan (a bum) took him down in fight #50. Outside of Denmark, no one cares about Brian Nielsen, same as no one cares about Mario Veit outside of Germany. Do you know why? Because they were nothing but fringe contenders (in the case of Nielsen, barely a fringe contender at Heavyweight!). You talk about Veit beating Brähmer but that was disputed, it wasn't a clean victory. The lad was a protected boxer, it's not uncommon. His management team looked after him until Calzaghe smashed it Calzaghe was a genuine talent, I thought he was legit, but it's hard to defend most of his title opponents. I would be kind and give credit for the wins against: Chris Eubank (still dangerous at that time), Charles Brewer (ex-IBF champion and still tough, at that time), Byron Mitchell (ex-WBA champion), Robin Reid (ex-WBC champ), Richie Woodhall (ex-WBC champ), Jeff Lacy (undefeated IBF champ at the time), Sakio Bika (future world champ), Mikkel Kessler (39-0 and WBC/WBA champ at the time) and Bernard Hopkins. I feel that Roy Jones Jr was finished by the time Joe fought him. Overall, I think Calzaghe has at least 9 good wins in his title run but the likes of Veit, Thornberry and Pudwill are awful, really! Typical WBO mandatory opponents. Since 1988, the WBO has been notorious for having some awful fighters in their rankings. Did you know that the WBO title is the most-vacated world title in boxing history?

[@checkandbalance2903]

Dude stop making excuses for this rather weak opponent. Viet never faced ANY good opponents. Brahmer was a mug. I love how people do acrobatics to try to say a pathetic opponent really was good..

[@Myndir]

@@heavenhelp1982 Awful? He was an EBU champ and a WBO interim champ. He beat Brewer right before the bout. Veit was not very good, but he was an ok contender.

[@zrx12gs650g]

Solid performance by Joe. Mario needs to leave his wife at home. Sheesh.

[@linusolsson4525]

Mario looks taller, thicker and broader than Calzaghe... :O How come so many of his opponents seem stronger than him at first glance. It kind of increases your sympathy for him doesn't it :)

[@sheruffa6032]

the Italian now explains the trick: you have to treat your citizen like shit, make him feel a waste, don't even give him work and minimum wages, nor rights, castrate his pleasure, once this is done the rest comes over time.you must also tell your citizens that it is not worth investing even a euro in them, this is the basic job, so you want to go away and seek fortune abroad for those who have the strength and to take drugs for those who do not have it 'has! Two ways that still bring money to those who know how to exploit the results. Sympathy?

[@willrichards32]

@@sheruffa6032what? Lol

[@SurfingBullDog]

First time I saw the ref ignore the corners towel. I knew that refs are not obligated to stop the fight when the corner throws the towel, but never actually saw one reject it.

[@spannerintheworks1190]

First I seen was Graham Earl and Michael Katsidas, when Micky Vann rejected it, great fight mind, recommend it.

[@mariogalli9505]

Joe Calzaghe, tra le tante cose che ha fatto, ha "suonato" uno che si chiama Mario, quindi giù il cappello, grande Joe 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

[@sheruffa6032]

Sapevo che avrebbe vinto, ma ciò che impressionava di lui era il come,ogni gara tirava fuori qualcosa di sorprendente,in questo match è in una forma straordinaria,sembra addirittura che le due braccia non fossero sufficienti a contenere la voglia,l'impeto che aveva dentro,sono certo che se si fosse trasferito negli USA da piccolo a quest'ora sarebbe stato oltre che più forte ancora più tecnico,impressionante comunqu,pugili come lui forse nascono ogni 30 anni, forse!

[@mariogalli9505]

@@sheruffa6032 ma sai magari lavorare troppo sulla tecnica ne avrebbe limitato naturalezza e istinto.. Ma son solo teorie.. Come dici tu: ogni 30 anni, forse

[@billiejoeroberts1364]

Calzaghe always wanted better fighters but they ducked him so it was through no fault of his own but many boxing fans deni that fact as did the boxers he wanted to fight and roy jones is only 3 yrs older so both were old as for hopkins he was an untidy and racist fighter always hugging his opponents aswell as always complaining to the reff just to get a breather Hopkins was a shit fighter and calzaghe did beat him on points.

[@MaxwellMoore-d1u]

Looking Back it was a Golden Time, Welsh/ Italian, British Boxing.

[@mattmacolan1388]

Viet went on to win the WBC intercontinental title, and finished a respectable 49-4-0

[@mizofan]

+Matt MaColan He was 48-0 apart from his losses to Calzaghe, till his last 2 fights and was the first of only 2 fighter to have beaten current light heavy champ Brahmer.

[@checkandbalance2903]

Dude are you really trying to argue Mario Viet was some kind of great fighter ??? Please..stop. You Calzaghe nut jobs are all the same you’ll twist reality to make his pathetic opponents look good.

[@NPA1001]

Veit was a very good fighter.. but Joe was a on different level to all Super Middleweights of that era.

[@secretbillionaire463]

Why didn't he fight in America early on his career?

[@spannerintheworks1190]

He was meant to Hopkins earlier in his career, but bhop pulled out of negotiations, demanding more money.

[@marcperrett662]

Mario is an excellent fighter in his own right ,,but joe was master of the space in the middle ,certainly mario matched him for reach and was taller,,nice fight well done guys

[@davidevans7959]

The commentator Steve Holdsworth, superb bloke...

[@AnaamSings]

GOAT

[@sheruffa6032]

Noo don't write it otherwise you will make Froch and his fans angry!

[@stringfever0151]

OMG, The holdin and running by veit.

[@strtoneill]

Joe, best boxer, fighter ever. Why do British commentators always try to do him down? Made weight, fought all, dodged nobody, best in the world, Joex

[@pissedoff-is1mt]

What a slap!

[@seanchris6019]

Can we just appreciate the fact that if this had been Roy Jones jr Vs Mario Veit then Veit like many of Roys opponents would have been hyped up as a 45-1 Monster! 6"2 Unstoppable great white hope!!!! but since it's calzaghe he fought him not Jones it don't matter...... i honestly believe James Toney is the only great fighter Jones beat in his prime..... and many many American Domestic level fighters of Veits standards (Virgil hill, Montell Griffin)

[@checkandbalance2903]

I think Calzaghe fought pathetic competition.. but I’m not a hypocrite and I agree Roy Jones did a bum of the month club after beating Toney. These guys were ALL pulling the wool over the boxing public’s eyes. They made money fighting bums because ignorant fans watched it and bought the hype of invincible fighters.

[@mudassirali3055]

Mike mccallum and Toney and going two weight class and dominating a heavyweight are enough is to prove his the best in the world the rest were average champs still good but it’s the way he beat them, RJ a once in a generation boxer

[@checkandbalance2903]

The agree Roy in his prime makes ATG easy. And the best of his generation (mid 90s to early 2000s). Jones was on the serious downslide by 2005. Joe Calzaghes win over him was meNingless and the only thing it proved is what a cherry picking coward Calzaghe was. Joe can anyone rate Calzaghes win when 6 months later Roy was KOd by Danny Green ?!?!

[@spannerintheworks1190]

I honestly think that this guy was a guinea pig sent by beyer and ottke's teams, as soon as they seen how easily he was despatched, they got cold feet.

[@Dm.Harding]

Кальзаге отличный боксер, к сожалению не так известный, как некоторые в хлам побитые им бездари

[@hernadiistiawan]

Gazlghe boxing all skill n the Best

[@gezzarandom]

To think the WBO made Calzaghe cancel a fight in Belfast against Brian Magee for this. Not saying Magee would've won, but it would've been a better fight.

[@philipketchell8369]

He looks like he's slapping Him, not all punches.

[@yulizalboyon]

Good luck jo

[@jacobroberts630]

Veit should have learned how to hold

[@joachimmekel5486]

🎉

[@93stormer]

Veit's record looked impressive on paper, but a look at his opponents showed he had never really fought a top notch opponent, much less looked good against one. He was nowhere near ready for an opponent of this caliber. Beating up low level opposition might boost your confidence, but it doesn't get you ready for a real fight.

[@mizofan]

+93stormer He was no mug, beat Braemer, light heavyweight champ, and did have an excellent record.

[@agt155]

+Rob Smith Wouldn't call stepping up to 175 and beating P4P champ Hopkins as dissapointing. If anything Calzaghe had a dissapointing middle to his career, should maybe have gone to the US a couple years before he did.

[@mizofan]

+agt155 Hopkins chickened out of fighting Joe years before. He knew very well the risk outweighed the reward cos Americans in their arrogant ignorance underestimated Joe.

[@charlescarter2072]

93stormer braemer

[@checkandbalance2903]

It’s arrogant and ignorant to believe this has anything to do with “Americans”. Most Americans do t even follow boxing much less care about the negotiations between two NON BOX OFFICE fighters. Hopkins never was a star in America and was known as a boring fighter. Calzaghedegended the lightly regarded WBO against a parade of NOBODIES in the UK. The states has Mayweather and guys like Pac-Man tearing it up against other prime fighters so why the hellwould anyone give a flying fuck about Joe Calzaghe lol. Sounds like UK boxing fans are bitter and feel inferior to their big brother Americans and are desperate to be noticed 🤣

[@MaxwellMoore-d1u]

It always got to me that statement who exactly underrated him ..Yanks ? Witch Yank beat him?

[@Geoffdam123]

The commentator is annoying.

[@willrichards32]

This commentator is pretty bad.

[@checkandbalance2903]

I would have liked to see Calzaghe agaibst better opponents. He could have been an all time great..but I can’t rate him because 40 out of 46 fights were against truly aweful opponents

[@MrHistorian123]

You can't fight better opponents if they duck you because they are scared of fighting you. Calzaghe beat everyone he managed to get to fight him. He deserves to be ranked as one of the all time greats.

[@checkandbalance2903]

MrHistorian no sir he can’t be one of the all time greats. Regardless of who’s fault it is or who ducked who we don’t have examples of Calzaghe fighting prime world class fighters. I doubt anyone was scared to fight Calzaghe. Frank Warren spilled the beans on Calzaghe. Showtime called him “no show Joe” and he faked hand injuries to pull out of fights. He said flat out he wanted nothing to do with Jones in a 2000 interview and called Jones washed up in his own autobiography in2007.. then he fights him in 2008 after he’d been KOd twice and easily beaten by Tarver. He fought Hopkins when Hopkins was 43... and he nearly lost. Hopkins was dropping fights post 40 . Chad Dawson beat him, Pascal got a draw. He was still good but no longer an invisible fighter. If Chad Dawson can beat him what is so special about Calzaghe getting dropped and taking a SD ??? REGARDLESS of the excuses in 46 fights, Hopkins and Kessler were his only two true tested world class opponents who weren’t on bad down slides. Your not an all time great under those conditions

[@checkandbalance2903]

Here is the top 100 list from boxing Rec. quite correctly Calzaghe isn’t in the top 100 and he doesn’t ev n make the honerable mention list either. boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=211403 Not sure how delusional you have to be to think he’s the GOAT when boxing analysts don’t even put him in the top 100

[@reessoft9416]

Check"...when boxing analysts don’t even put him in the top 100"What boxing analysts ?BoxRec is a fan site founded by John Sheppard, a man who once thought boxing was "barbaric".According to Wikipedia"The website (BoxRec) is updated by volunteer editors from many countries around the world"

[@EdgeStormcrow]

Calzaghe fought mostly tomato cans. Not a top fighter. Good jab and footwork though.

[@mizofan]

+EdgeStormcrow He was a great fighter. Top class hand-speed, stamina, will, chin, work-rate, had to overcome bad trouble with his hands. Jimmy Wilde was the best from Wales.

[@EdgeStormcrow]

+mizofan he was top class for sure, but didn't fight quality opponents to be called great, look at his opponents in boxrec record :(.

[@agt155]

+EdgeStormcrow Bernard Hopkins, Kessler, Eubank, Lacy.......

[@EdgeStormcrow]

+agt155 he did have 3 decent opponents.. quite late into their career, but 3 good fights yes

[@agt155]

EdgeStormcrow So you think Bernard Hopkins was merely decent?

[@patrickdoyle9369]

But weather Joe Calzaghe likes it or not he was born in England not Wales, he is from Italian decent, which makes him British NOT WELSH. Nore is he Italian.. His passport is British not Welsh. If i moved from England to China to live it does not make me Chinees, I will still be English.

[@christianvogt7435]

german boxer all IBF titles! nobody of them tries the callenge of usa boxers of wbo or wbc title! veit was an exception! first fight in usa vs. joe c. over in first round! at least he tried the other german "champs" didn´t fight the real champs in usa of wbf, wbo, wbc!