Joe Rogan & Michael Bisping debate if Volkanovski should get immediate rematch vs. Topuria | UFC 298

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After Ilia Topuria knocked out Alexander Volkanovski to become the new UFC featherweight champion, Joe Rogan and Michael Bisping debate if Volk should consider taking time off or go for an immediate rematch.
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@devynbennett8446
@devynbennett8446 6 ай бұрын
He needs to rest.
@emg00
@emg00 6 ай бұрын
Its over
@niix0173
@niix0173 6 ай бұрын
Na he’s done. He’s old and he looked slow.
@NewDesignVinylGraphics
@NewDesignVinylGraphics 6 ай бұрын
Crazy how much can change in a year or two. Look at masvidal usman 1 vs usman 2. It's like 2 diff fighters. Volk was not the same fighter from a year ago tonight. He's definitely not ever going to be the same again
@TheWorldisaLIE2
@TheWorldisaLIE2 6 ай бұрын
yes, permanent rest with retirement.
@KeshHere
@KeshHere 6 ай бұрын
Let him retire and not become the next Tony
@southside6093
@southside6093 6 ай бұрын
*Absolutely not, let this man’s brain heal. Two back to back brutal KO’s at 35 years old. Congrats to Ilia he’s a beast and I knew dude was gonna hoist the strap one day.*
@GoodStuff1992
@GoodStuff1992 6 ай бұрын
give it a week, they will be lobbying for his rematch
@slaktheking69
@slaktheking69 6 ай бұрын
@@GoodStuff1992give it to volk I wanna see he get knocked tf out again
@fgc1850
@fgc1850 6 ай бұрын
Islam vs topuria
@Gaz_1
@Gaz_1 6 ай бұрын
He's done for!
@Northwest425
@Northwest425 6 ай бұрын
​@@fgc1850islam will win
@Vempss
@Vempss 6 ай бұрын
Couldn't believe when he was saying he'll ko volk all week. One punch, out cold.
@slaktheking69
@slaktheking69 6 ай бұрын
Believe it boy
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 6 ай бұрын
Easy to see. Worse thing happen to volk is topuria walked down josh and took no damage. Knew he would walk down volk. Swi ging until it happen. Volk no chance
@RandomCitizen014
@RandomCitizen014 6 ай бұрын
At 35 coming from a KO just a couple months ago, it was gonna be difficult. Once you’re that age and you’ve taken so many hits your chin is just not the same.
@ChuckwaldMartin
@ChuckwaldMartin 6 ай бұрын
@@RandomCitizen014 his chin was never gonna survive that no matter if he hadn't fought for 4 months or 4 years
@TroubleOnTheWaters
@TroubleOnTheWaters 6 ай бұрын
@@ChuckwaldMartin yeah I really hope that whole age thing isn’t gonna become a big narrative here. There aren’t many 145ers who aren’t sleeping if they get hit with that shot.
@moceo974
@moceo974 6 ай бұрын
Hope Alex doesn’t end up like Tony Ferguson, take some rest champ!
@jackreacher2095
@jackreacher2095 6 ай бұрын
@@mightnmagic3095Tony is nowhere near Volk and never has been
@dinkin_flicka14
@dinkin_flicka14 6 ай бұрын
Alex became a champion and has defended the belt multiple times but i get what you're saying. Age is definitely not on his side
@Davidp9767
@Davidp9767 6 ай бұрын
​@@jackreacher2095 Listen buddy, prime tony Ferguson would DESTROY volk. And I'm a volk fan but prime tony Ferguson would DESTROY him 😂
@Sean-ek8wc
@Sean-ek8wc 6 ай бұрын
I agree lads as Tony Ferguson fought Justin at age 37 for an interim belt For the second time if you go by age Ferguson at 35 had not been submitted or knocked out and not having the chance to unify the first interim 😢
@jaineelparmar7392
@jaineelparmar7392 6 ай бұрын
​@@Davidp9767Who did prime Tony beat to conclude that he would destroy Volk? His best wins were Dos Anjos, Pettis and Kevin Lee.
@RandomCitizen014
@RandomCitizen014 6 ай бұрын
His team should definitely tell him to take time off. At 35 recovering from back to back ko’s is extremely difficult. He is no doubt the GOAT at featherweight, but he shouldn’t put his health at risk. Nothing to prove at this point, man has done it all.
@carlito6038
@carlito6038 6 ай бұрын
no doubt? have you heard of mighty mouse?
@petar2253
@petar2253 6 ай бұрын
​@@carlito6038Different weight classes he even wrote in his comment or do you not know this?
@gsmoove9315
@gsmoove9315 6 ай бұрын
I think after tonight, it is settled that Jose Aldo is still the FW GOAT
@yaakw
@yaakw 6 ай бұрын
He’s done.
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 6 ай бұрын
@carlito6038 , mighty mouse is flyweight and his fights were so irrelevant and boring they traded him with Ben Askren. Now suddenly people act like mighty mouse was Goat 🤣
@DeusEx.Machina
@DeusEx.Machina 6 ай бұрын
Man, that KO was out of nowhere. He was not really rocked before, so its only right to conclude that his brain is going to start shutting off whenever he gets rocked from now on.
@idontcaresapo8233
@idontcaresapo8233 6 ай бұрын
He’s done. As a volk fan I wish he retires and doesn’t become the next Tony Ferguson. He’s 35 and two brutal knockouts is not joke. He had a great career now he should do something else
@explorer9692
@explorer9692 6 ай бұрын
I blame Makhachev, not even joking
@RandomCitizen014
@RandomCitizen014 6 ай бұрын
He shouldn’t have taken the Islam fight with 11 days notice, that messed him up. Once you get KO’d at that age the chin is never the same
@GTari-ob6bj
@GTari-ob6bj 6 ай бұрын
@@explorer9692 i blame the dude that thought fighting 4 months after a brutal KO against a KO artist is a great idea.
@bicmitchum1368
@bicmitchum1368 6 ай бұрын
Usually the trend personally I think he just got caught , we seen fighters come back from brutal k.os , Mike bisping being one of them , need to see another fight (after he takes time off of course)
@michaelhood2109
@michaelhood2109 6 ай бұрын
I've been saying it for awhile, we really need to calm down with all these immediate rematches.
@Default-420s
@Default-420s 6 ай бұрын
There's no Country for old men
@KG-ii2yx
@KG-ii2yx 6 ай бұрын
Sir?
@johnpaul4301
@johnpaul4301 6 ай бұрын
And Ilia is a spaniard like Javier
@johnnyhammersticks88
@johnnyhammersticks88 6 ай бұрын
Yeah there is. France.
@nikhil8650
@nikhil8650 6 ай бұрын
​@@johnpaul4301literally
@purplevincent4454
@purplevincent4454 6 ай бұрын
@@johnpaul4301 that punch has been traveling 27 years to get there.
@infrared6973
@infrared6973 6 ай бұрын
That punch didnt even look like it was even 50% of his power insane knockout
@gerardbonggo5401
@gerardbonggo5401 6 ай бұрын
Yup. And his reset for his foot position to set up his 3rd punch after the 1-2 is so fast .
@user-pb3zn5rc8k
@user-pb3zn5rc8k 6 ай бұрын
sometimes the unexpected hurts the most, full power or not
@azhiiochakre6990
@azhiiochakre6990 6 ай бұрын
​@@user-pb3zn5rc8kMike Tyson said it best.. It's the punch you don't see coming that knocks you out...Ilia is a master of covering his finishing punch with his other combos...
@bicmitchum1368
@bicmitchum1368 6 ай бұрын
He sets his feet perfectly. Always in position for full power shots, well timed and placed plus power
@Santiago.Ag11
@Santiago.Ag11 6 ай бұрын
Also, Volkanovski let his guard down for a brief moment when he reached for the collar tie in an attempt to land uppercuts in the clinch; that brief moment was all Topuria needed.
@maxkelly6664
@maxkelly6664 6 ай бұрын
He’s my favourite fighter of all time. But he needs a huge break or if not that a retirement. He’ll remain my favourite fighter though, not just his skills but his personality is why I like him
@Sotodelic
@Sotodelic 6 ай бұрын
Volk sucks, he always left it to the judges to get the win. He is a point fighter. I am glad hes era is over, he was a 5 round decision fighter. His biggest career highlight was his first decision loss agaist Islam.
@moistman3110
@moistman3110 6 ай бұрын
​@@Sotodelicdid you not watch the Yair fight? Either way, Volk winning decisions isn't his fault, he just doesn't have heavy hands. Are you going to tell me that Strickland is a boring fighter too? Volk always brings the fight, and imo usually has very exciting fights, he's just not a big KO threat. I never got the feeling that he's intentionally just playing for points (though everyone does that to some extent). To each his own I guess.
@shermanpeh21
@shermanpeh21 6 ай бұрын
That looping right catches everybody. What power at FW.
@jmz2144
@jmz2144 6 ай бұрын
If he gets his opponent squared against the fence, their chin becomes a pad
@fvgc454ss
@fvgc454ss 6 ай бұрын
Wasn't even looping. Just extremely fast
@Gm-ok1zb
@Gm-ok1zb 6 ай бұрын
i genuinely believe his power would hold up strong at 170
@kiptinobvious1622
@kiptinobvious1622 6 ай бұрын
@@fvgc454ss Most of his shots were looping . Like half as much as Liddel's would loop, but he's an extreme example.
@JackSmith-te6kj
@JackSmith-te6kj 6 ай бұрын
If he ko’s max next that will be crazy
@abhijitbhattacharjee7138
@abhijitbhattacharjee7138 6 ай бұрын
Let's see where Max will be after the Gaethje fight
@ThisOffendsMeTV
@ThisOffendsMeTV 6 ай бұрын
@@abhijitbhattacharjee7138hospital
@fooball24H
@fooball24H 6 ай бұрын
Max? Washed out garbage lmao.😂😂😂😂
@jamesfranco9961
@jamesfranco9961 6 ай бұрын
@@abhijitbhattacharjee7138Max needs to pull out of that fight.
@calebpark665
@calebpark665 6 ай бұрын
@@fooball24H How is he washed up? He’s won every fight ever since that lost to Volk
@BeerusNZ
@BeerusNZ 6 ай бұрын
As a Volk fan illia proved me wrong and I ate my words it sucks seeing Volk go out like that for the second time but man illia is young and hungry and has vicious hands (Respect to you illia as the new champ 💪) respect lad
@loojherr8650
@loojherr8650 6 ай бұрын
Haha at least you ate it up. Tell your man to retire, he's done
@BeerusNZ
@BeerusNZ 6 ай бұрын
@@loojherr8650 😂😂 Volk definitely needs to take time away and have a break with his family he deserves it as for future plans maybe you can ask him about it😂💪
@Dieaboutitt__
@Dieaboutitt__ 6 ай бұрын
Respect brother happy to see real mma fans
@brandonamezquita4501
@brandonamezquita4501 6 ай бұрын
Some guy doubted me and said he would be back to rub it in my face after Volk won and that I wouldn't dare comment back. It has been a day and he hasn't returned. 😂
@shellshocked8674
@shellshocked8674 6 ай бұрын
​@@brandonamezquita4501😂 share the link of the vid if possible
@abhijitbhattacharjee7138
@abhijitbhattacharjee7138 6 ай бұрын
Give Movsar the match,let Volko heal for a year and see if he can beat Ilia in a rematch...
@sanjarkhodjimatov6801
@sanjarkhodjimatov6801 6 ай бұрын
Topuria won't let him survive to get another win by decision
@sanjarkhodjimatov6801
@sanjarkhodjimatov6801 6 ай бұрын
@@eujoseafonso that would make more sense
@jmz2144
@jmz2144 6 ай бұрын
​@@eujoseafonsothe Spanish back and forth will be insane
@juanpabloortega8096
@juanpabloortega8096 6 ай бұрын
@@eujoseafonsoYair and Ortega are mid af, would rather watch him vs undefeated Evloev
@kenmoraes6843
@kenmoraes6843 6 ай бұрын
I feel like Yair and Brian would get outclassed by Illia. It should be Ilia vs Movsar. Both undefeated.
@Kvngz
@Kvngz 6 ай бұрын
This was what usman was saying that if a champ who has dominanted for a long time gets KOs, its always hard to be that same guy he once was and that's true, ilia would dominant for a long time tbh he's different and has insane KO Power
@SirDavayeJones
@SirDavayeJones 6 ай бұрын
How is it a "debate" when they both agree and say the same thing 🤔
@ozkflx
@ozkflx 6 ай бұрын
He should. But in a year. He needs to heal.
@GTari-ob6bj
@GTari-ob6bj 6 ай бұрын
what's worse than a 35 year old fighter coming off a brutal KO? a 36 year old fighter that got KOed twice in a row..volk should retire..
@heyitsinferno
@heyitsinferno 6 ай бұрын
That's it for Volk. When you've lost 3 of your last 4 and in that fashion you gotta retire. The headkick by Islam rocked him really bad but since the fight was on 11 days notice and Volk was still the Featherweight Champ there was still confidence for this fight. In this fight he went well with the kicks and distance and then Topuria just exploded when he had Alex against the cage with nowhere to go. He had a great run, arguably one of the best to do it in the division (Beating Illia would have sealed it) but the decision to take the fight second fight with Islam was a huge mistake, as well as this one just three months later.
@chesssterling101
@chesssterling101 6 ай бұрын
He already sealed he was the greatest 45er. Beating topuria wouldve just been another win
@heyitsinferno
@heyitsinferno 6 ай бұрын
@@chesssterling101 I am biased but I do agree with you that Volkanovski is the GOAT for 145, but a lot of people still have Aldo as the best. The win against Topuria would have sealed it in my eyes.
@dinkin_flicka14
@dinkin_flicka14 6 ай бұрын
He can give it one last go and that only if he feels like needs more financial security but if he's doing well in that department, he should retire and still be one of the GOATs of his division
@jamesmills5165
@jamesmills5165 6 ай бұрын
Lost 3 of your last 4, Volk was robbed in that first fight w Islam. He got caught two fights in a row, def needs time off but deserves the rematch.
@MrAllen1994
@MrAllen1994 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesmills5165Volk was never robbed in the 1st fight vs Islam. If there was no knockdown in the end it would hv been 4-1 Islam!
@puakeriwinterburn
@puakeriwinterburn 6 ай бұрын
He should if he wants but he should also have the option to return when he wants and then be granted the title shot whenever he chooses to return , he needs a rest, he was competing at the top of 2 weight divisions , the ufc should return the favour and give the man options
@Syonaga_Auron777
@Syonaga_Auron777 6 ай бұрын
It's Alex fault he wants to take this fight in short time! He has mental issues where he has to keep fighting, keep training, just like what Ferguson going through..
@michaelhill6451
@michaelhill6451 6 ай бұрын
We’ve seen this many times before…Chuck Liddell, Wanderlei Silva, etc., If you get your clock cleaned good once, it’s often much easier for it to happen again.
@drewcliff82
@drewcliff82 6 ай бұрын
I do think he should get a rematch without fighting anyone first but after some significant time off first. Let Ilia get 1 or 2 in during that time.
@Santiago.Ag11
@Santiago.Ag11 6 ай бұрын
Being 35 at 145 lbs is old; he'd have more time if he were 185 Lbs or heavier. Sadly, lighter-weight divisions aren't well suited for middle-aged fighters.
@jylETZ
@jylETZ 6 ай бұрын
Volkanovski deserves a rematch. His achievements and dominance should be heavily considered. However he needs to recover from his last two knockouts first before being scheduled to fight again.
@MrBlackstarHD
@MrBlackstarHD 6 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but you’re delusional if you think he can beat Topuria it’s gonna be the same outcome every single time nobody wants to see a rematch
@PaulLipka
@PaulLipka 6 ай бұрын
​@MrBlackstarHD he looked fine the entire fight, likely winning the first round. Really hard to make accurate assessments when it's an early knockout like this. Anybody with knockout power can catch someone, but at the end of the day, if he wants a rematch, he deserves it.
@RenzaissanceTV
@RenzaissanceTV 6 ай бұрын
Not win your last 2 losses have come by KO bud
@RenzaissanceTV
@RenzaissanceTV 6 ай бұрын
@@PaulLipka None of what he was doing in the 1st affected Topuria doe, You could make the argument Topuria was just closing the gap, and waiting for his moments, everytime Ilia pressed Volk, Volk would fall back to the cage, whereas when Volk pressured ilia just wasn’t phased at all
@PaulLipka
@PaulLipka 6 ай бұрын
@RenzaissanceTV I don't disagree with that; I'm just saying he looked fine until the knockout. Everyone knew going in that Iia's knockout power was the thing to lookout for, and if he avoids getting trapped against the cage and taking that hook, who knows how the fight goes. Maybe a knockout happens everytime they fight, but after being the champ for as long as he was, he deserves a rematch. If Topuria wins again, then there's nothing more to talk about. And the Islam knockout isn't even worth talking about; Islam is the #1 pound for pound fighter on earth, bigger, and Volk took the fight on short notice. The fact he made the first fight as close as he did is remarkably impressive.
@liamQin
@liamQin 6 ай бұрын
Rematch or not doesn’t matter, nothing changes Volk’s one of the greatest in FW. Nobody is invincible as long as he keeps fighting at the top.
@shaanchaudhry5719
@shaanchaudhry5719 6 ай бұрын
Volk should not get an immediate rematch. He got knocked tf out and I don’t think the UFC will want it either.
@Doeboyfresh20
@Doeboyfresh20 6 ай бұрын
He needs to rest. And when he comes back, he should get his rematch. If izzy can get an immediate shot at DDP for some reason even though he doesn't deserve it Volk can get his rematch when he's ready and rested.
@NewDesignVinylGraphics
@NewDesignVinylGraphics 6 ай бұрын
Din Thomas brought up a good point, volk loses by ko tonight he could fall off a cliff. I think volk is done, he'll never be the same, crazy just a year ago he was the best fighter on earth
@Gaffo23
@Gaffo23 6 ай бұрын
He should rest but if anyone has earned an immediate rematch it’s him so he can do what he feels is best who are we to question him
@foreva_89
@foreva_89 6 ай бұрын
That was a crazy knockout like he dropped him with one punch🤯
@punchToad
@punchToad 6 ай бұрын
Anyone know the first song in the clip?
@TimelineBeats
@TimelineBeats 6 ай бұрын
Man he was doing a great job managing distance up until that moment ...
@999titu
@999titu 6 ай бұрын
If you want him to retire after 3 consecutive kos , then yes he should force for immediate rematch
@sswildlifevideos
@sswildlifevideos 6 ай бұрын
Definitely a change of guard with Usman & Volk's respective reigns ending. I guess couldn't happen to more deserving fighters in Edwards & Topuria but definitely feels a tad sad. Coincidentally, it seems like the end of both Volk's and Usman's reigns were triggered by headkicks.
@KTS365
@KTS365 6 ай бұрын
He needs to retire, it’s over
@itsVEED
@itsVEED 6 ай бұрын
shut up he just needs a break
@slaktheking69
@slaktheking69 6 ай бұрын
@@itsVEEDhe got a break lol On his chin
@LeeroyHad
@LeeroyHad 6 ай бұрын
Loses for the first time in this weight division and now he needs to retire ? Make sense please
@fxseb7
@fxseb7 6 ай бұрын
@@LeeroyHad two consecutive kos. This one nastier than the previous one. I’m afraid Volk’s chin is gone.
@fooball24H
@fooball24H 6 ай бұрын
@@LeeroyHad2 brutal KOS back to back, he isnt and will never be the same man lmao. Retire now.😂😂😂😂😂
@xeno7830
@xeno7830 6 ай бұрын
Perfect shot… idk if his chin his gone cuz even if it didn’t look powerful, it was on the money. He should take a tune up in a year and stay active while he still can
@Ktmfan450
@Ktmfan450 6 ай бұрын
He doesn't need the money Rematch or nothing
@Brianpeckin
@Brianpeckin 6 ай бұрын
Answer is no, not after you get rocked like that and I'm tired of everyone gets rematches so quick. I like volk but still
@user-nv2wt4hi8t
@user-nv2wt4hi8t 6 ай бұрын
5 defences my guy. 5. Not 1 or 2. Had he not lost to brutal KO again, he would without question deserve it.
@Brianpeckin
@Brianpeckin 6 ай бұрын
@@user-nv2wt4hi8t losing two of the last 3 fights, and getting knocked out in two of those 3. Going up doesn't matter you still lost. Doesn't stop how amazing he is but doesn't deserve a rematch not yet.
@AcidGlow
@AcidGlow 6 ай бұрын
*No* because the match ended in a KO and it was fast. If the fight dragged on to the very end and if it was a close win, then you could say that. But IMO, he got flatlined quick. 👀
@evilkhamzat
@evilkhamzat 6 ай бұрын
If you don’t do the rematch then you do Movsar vs Volk for the number 1 contender and let the winner of Yair vs Ortega fight Ilia.
@sergioflores9246
@sergioflores9246 6 ай бұрын
People seriously underrate basic boxing fundamentals. Boxing is the most cerebral of all the fighting styles and teaches you throw proper punches which a lot of people underrate and even seasoned non boxing strikers cant do as well
@user-ny8ti7jn9x
@user-ny8ti7jn9x 6 ай бұрын
I think volk should call it and retire honestly
@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913
@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 6 ай бұрын
Vamoooos Ilia!! Campeón del mundo!
@Hunter-iz2ub
@Hunter-iz2ub 6 ай бұрын
Islam mackhachev has shortened his life by head kicking him. Now he understands what Islam mackhachev is !!! After that, it will be difficult for Alexander to win against any other fighter.
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 6 ай бұрын
Volk fans gave Volk false confidence by acting like 1st round KO is related to short notice. 2nd or 3rd maybe after he gets tired maybe when its short notice since he didn't have camp, but 1st round KO has nothing to do with short notice.
@jmz2144
@jmz2144 6 ай бұрын
​@@timurjack8773then why didn't Islam do it in the previous fight when Volk had a full camp?
@fvgc454ss
@fvgc454ss 6 ай бұрын
Go watch that punch in slomo. Anyone in the division is getting koed from that
@Hunter-iz2ub
@Hunter-iz2ub 6 ай бұрын
@@jmz2144Islam first reduced the average life expectancy in his head, so he can't do it now. And he can do no better in the future
@Hunter-iz2ub
@Hunter-iz2ub 6 ай бұрын
@@fvgc454ss I know volk the first match was good with Islam. But after the head kick in the next match volk is finished. And he will not be able to stand up against any good player. Challenge me 1 million dollar????
@EclairTw
@EclairTw 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. Volk vs Pereira UFC 300.
@MrNinjaStorm192
@MrNinjaStorm192 6 ай бұрын
Everyone celebrating this and of course this was going to happen those punches were nothing the problem is Volk has brain concussions and he needs to rest let ilia enjoy for a while then come back with everything because Islam was the real problem here with that kick . Everyone who thinks differently is just a hater hope Volk is ok congrats to Topuria and let the rematch be real
@akarespi
@akarespi 6 ай бұрын
I swear I was only one who knew this guy was winning, I love volk but u don’t comeback from loosing 2 times and 1 of em beeking head kicked. Hate to say it his time is up.
@Brianpeckin
@Brianpeckin 6 ай бұрын
No you weren't if was literally a pick him fight lol even the betting had it close🤦 I had ilia being champ after yair vs volk you not special
@JamieReynolds89
@JamieReynolds89 6 ай бұрын
Are you on crack? It was literally 50/50 fight with like 60\40 in favour of Volk. “I sWEAr I wAS ThE OnlY ONe WhO KnEW ThIs GuY WaS WinNinG” What an absolute f melt 😂and you didn’t KNOW…. but you chose correctly.
@TroubleOnTheWaters
@TroubleOnTheWaters 6 ай бұрын
I'm not gonna say Volk's time is up, but man I knew this was gonna happen. Not like this, but Ilia is too powerful and too smart to "get schooled" like everyone said he would. Win possibly by clear UD over 5 rounds, yes probably. A Jai Herbert repeat KO? Didn't see that at all
@akarespi
@akarespi 6 ай бұрын
@@Brianpeckin 😥 sorry dude didn’t mean to pull ur strings so much buddy
@akarespi
@akarespi 6 ай бұрын
@@TroubleOnTheWaters me neither I knew he would take it but not folding him up
@dwvids7204
@dwvids7204 6 ай бұрын
Well, that was the friendliest debate I've ever seen! 😂
@benon9434
@benon9434 6 ай бұрын
He needs to rest, give him a rematch when he fully recovers, and when tuporia has defended the title at least once.
@alejandrosocas-diaz844
@alejandrosocas-diaz844 6 ай бұрын
sure, but give him 6 months to recover, like yall did with izzy
@activeunsub
@activeunsub 6 ай бұрын
Some time is needed for Volk but not too long bc the time that's good for his chin isn't good for his overall abilities. Extended inactivity when you're relatively older isn't good for your timing, speed, gas tank, etc. Henry was proof of this on that same night, for instance he now only has one round gas tank. 6 months for Volk.
@thegoldensnitch6312
@thegoldensnitch6312 6 ай бұрын
I’d rather see him retire. Nothing more to prove. Why damage your brand by risking more losses. He’s a fan favorite and great analyst, surely theres a spot on a broadcast booth?
@beanie5507
@beanie5507 6 ай бұрын
Where's the debate? All I seen was three guys agreeing with each other lol
@JasTheKariol
@JasTheKariol 6 ай бұрын
He did not prepare enough for Machazev, and he did not heal enough for Topuria. 2 mistakes that cost him his mental health, title, and future career.
@dinkin_flicka14
@dinkin_flicka14 6 ай бұрын
100% and his coach Eugene actually advised Volk not to take that short notice fight against Islam but Volk took that fight from a financial POV and I'm pretty sure Eugene would have advised Volk, not to take this Topuria fight quickly after a bad KO
@wstew
@wstew 6 ай бұрын
Well he was trying to chase for two belt. He can’t hold up his div just because he wants to be a double champ. Same as jones. If he wants to fight stipe, he should just relinquish the belt.
@petermisberg732
@petermisberg732 6 ай бұрын
Bro pls call him islam, the disrespect by saying machazev 😂
@gcoffey223
@gcoffey223 6 ай бұрын
Once you get KO'd, it's easier to get KO'd again
@tsveno72
@tsveno72 6 ай бұрын
That’s not a debate. That’s an agreement between the gentlemen that Alex needs a break.
@jermihoneycutt
@jermihoneycutt 6 ай бұрын
What’s the song in the background?
@yxngyam
@yxngyam 5 ай бұрын
Idk
@unknownspectator7356
@unknownspectator7356 6 ай бұрын
That K.O was so cold, my screen froze.
@olivereckman9961
@olivereckman9961 6 ай бұрын
He deservers one but need to rest. Take a year
@idontcaresapo8233
@idontcaresapo8233 6 ай бұрын
He’ll be 36 almost 37 nahhh bro he’s prime is over and after two knockouts hes never gonna be the same. If he comes back he’s gonna get beaten again like tony
@shafqatishan437
@shafqatishan437 6 ай бұрын
At least 6 months off
@olivereckman9961
@olivereckman9961 6 ай бұрын
@@idontcaresapo8233 calm down bud
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 6 ай бұрын
@@idontcaresapo8233 Casual.
@idontcaresapo8233
@idontcaresapo8233 6 ай бұрын
@@madgavin7568 you?
@tyrellthompson1228
@tyrellthompson1228 6 ай бұрын
For the most part you only get a rematch when it’s a close decision not when you get slept
@alexrobushi7043
@alexrobushi7043 6 ай бұрын
Immediate rematch no rematch in general yes. Take off until August/sept and see how things are looking
@Ak47ArtillerySquad
@Ak47ArtillerySquad 6 ай бұрын
Volk should just become a ufc announcer
@Xformat01
@Xformat01 6 ай бұрын
Those were the two biggest noses to ever compete in the UFC together. Lb 4 lb . . . straight up. Rematch for sure.
@bobbymudda
@bobbymudda 6 ай бұрын
ESPN need to learn the definition of "debate".
@kenmoraes6843
@kenmoraes6843 6 ай бұрын
Let's see how his reign goes. If Illia can beat Max, rematch Alex, Movsar, and Arnold then Illia will also be the greatest featherweight.
@TheChadChamp
@TheChadChamp 6 ай бұрын
He definitely deserves a rematch but not immediately. End of the year, like VERY end at the soonest.
@captaindeadpool2655
@captaindeadpool2655 6 ай бұрын
He shouldn't be in another camp until at least 5-6 months. Even then I think he should be fighting in October at earliest.
@bluelinescinema3419
@bluelinescinema3419 6 ай бұрын
He should fight next year now man its heartbreaking to see him loosing 2 in a row
@captaindeadpool2655
@captaindeadpool2655 6 ай бұрын
@@bluelinescinema3419 At 35 he can't afford an entire year off. He either takes the 8ish months until next fight or retire.
@Dyliz4fz
@Dyliz4fz 6 ай бұрын
I didn't see a debate here..
@bobbylopesjr431
@bobbylopesjr431 6 ай бұрын
What a guy.
@ThisMusicIsToogood
@ThisMusicIsToogood 6 ай бұрын
Wasn’t much of a debate, they both just agreed with each other, that’s not a debate.
@mikecastro7117
@mikecastro7117 6 ай бұрын
Volkanovski must hire a volcanologist to determine when to erupt at the right time or whether he should stay dormant!🌋🌋🌋
@indridcold1206
@indridcold1206 6 ай бұрын
He needs to take at least a year off if he wants to stay active then he should stay active in other CKB fighters camps. Its tricky because of his age he can't really take more than a year off but he needs at least that to fully heal imo.
@PortoPaul
@PortoPaul 6 ай бұрын
Volkanovski's next fight should be for the title, But Topuria should have 2-3 more in the meantime
@Naksu..
@Naksu.. 6 ай бұрын
Let the brAin heal... Makhachev made a hole in Volk head.. topuria went in just to find what's wrong with him..... Volk stop acting being old .. old is just an age... The problem is you're weak in the head and in the heart...
@VladimirMiyazaki
@VladimirMiyazaki 5 ай бұрын
Alexander Volkanovski should not do any sparring, grappling and wrestling before the month of November. Sure he can do pad works, strenght & conditioning and cardio. Volkanovski has already solidify himself as one of the best featherweight therefore instead of rematch he should bulk up permanently for 155lbs division & stay there.
@LJ7000
@LJ7000 6 ай бұрын
He won't be able to avoid that shot again, imo. Time catches up and the brute fact is Topuria just has the beat on him now.
@devildickdeep
@devildickdeep 6 ай бұрын
Volkanovski for sure gets a title shot but, not a rematch. Two back to back KO’s is brutal.
@jimjrdedes8609
@jimjrdedes8609 6 ай бұрын
15 months lay off possible then move up to another division maybe Volkanovski can fight in lightweight division this is what he needs to campaign next bcoz he is not getting younger anymore and cutting weight make him vulnerable maybe he could start from zero in another division to test himself if he cn still go further...
@Tehownilator
@Tehownilator 6 ай бұрын
Does the mental aspect of it really go away with time? And even the physical aspect; is that gonna heal with a year or so off as opposed to 6 months? It seems like from what we’ve seen with other guys, once the chin goes it doesn’t ever come back. And you can make the case that it’s mostly mental, because you’re triggered deep down to the fear of the ko and that leaves you blind in places to where you can get clipped without seeing it coming. But then you just end up back at step one, and I don’t think more time off - especially for these great fighters who are trigger happy sort of people when they’re at their best - will do any good for these guys. I think we just don’t wanna see him come back trying to right the wrongs and get kod again; but more time probably doesn’t help.
@joemckim1183
@joemckim1183 6 ай бұрын
I don't if that qualifies as a debate, they both had the same opinion. The correct opinion but a debate is people arguing different view points.
@SimbolicProductions
@SimbolicProductions 6 ай бұрын
I disagree completely. We are getting wayyy too concerned with concussion protocols and CTE, etc. very little evidence that CTE has lasting consequences and you can’t test for it. Volk would be good to go in April imo. He deserves a rematch
@Mahhhdeee
@Mahhhdeee 6 ай бұрын
He deserves the rematch but after his long deserved break. Say beginning next year? That way it gives Ilia a fight somewhere else before the rematch
@jderrickson4597
@jderrickson4597 6 ай бұрын
Age isnt the end all, be all... Glover Teixeira is testament to that..
@punchafewbills
@punchafewbills 6 ай бұрын
Where was the debate?
@nashcabana-main9546
@nashcabana-main9546 6 ай бұрын
Well if i was Volk, No don't retire yet, you got a lot more. He should take some time off and heal up. Already got knocked out twice in a row. He's 35 and should have waited after his last fight when he got knocked out. Then get the rematch after.
@tayotosin5792
@tayotosin5792 6 ай бұрын
Obviously he didn't recover mentally from the first one. The fact that he always wants to fight is more reason he should take time off...do something entirely out of fighting.
@diogenestheshadow-banned2322
@diogenestheshadow-banned2322 6 ай бұрын
Undefeated in that weight class until just now, defended 6 times (I think).. I don't like the way he's looking, but it should be up to Volk if there is an immediate rematch. That's how it's always been.
@willallan77
@willallan77 6 ай бұрын
I'm a massive VOLK fan but I would say no... Dominant loss.... recoup and back in the line...recover mentally and rebuild.
@princeronrang9816
@princeronrang9816 6 ай бұрын
People were saying something else before the fight, but the truth is bitter
@RustinChole
@RustinChole 6 ай бұрын
They weren’t “arguing” tho. Guess you got me slipping again.
@ironic_iron8770
@ironic_iron8770 6 ай бұрын
I agree, some time off should be good for him.
@nonoahhh
@nonoahhh 6 ай бұрын
Head injury in your 30s is something else from your prior ages. Recovery and rest is much needed. The competitor in Alex got him to the fight but you can see on his face by mid late first like the task became sizable and dangerous. KO would come shortly after
@josepharmand6117
@josepharmand6117 6 ай бұрын
Ilia is a little bit like Pereira (but with wrestling/bjj cred). He has that lights-out power. And it will be tough to beat him because he only needs to get through once in the whole fight. Whereas his opponent must be 'on' for the whole fight...no lapses at all. But if anyone in the FW division can go 25 minutes with no lapses, it's Volk.
@RMILLSMMA
@RMILLSMMA 6 ай бұрын
I think when he's ready he should be given the opportunity. But I don't think Volk should be anywhere near head trauma for 12 months. Fighting 15 weeks after getting put to sleep was just not a great idea.
@djmurray9888
@djmurray9888 6 ай бұрын
Let’s let the noble warrior rest a little and give him a shot in like a year
@stuart4860
@stuart4860 6 ай бұрын
of course he does, if he wants to.............hes a great
@chavenord
@chavenord 6 ай бұрын
No rematch period. A rematch should be reserved for close, competitive fights like the first Volk--Makhachev fight. If you are clearly outclassed and knocked the F out a rematch is pointless.
@SuperFacecloth
@SuperFacecloth 6 ай бұрын
He absolutely must rest. His life and his health isn't a business. His family should be his number consideration. Family first. He needs to be the pound for pound best husband and best father first and then think about fighting again.
@theJoefamilychannel
@theJoefamilychannel 6 ай бұрын
Volk needs to take some time off and let his brain properly heal.
@ChristianC-gy1ym
@ChristianC-gy1ym 6 ай бұрын
Would like to see Topuria Paddy super fight.
@christhegoat3565
@christhegoat3565 6 ай бұрын
Bro, after two brutal ko losses Volk should retire I really don’t want to see him end up like Tony Ferguson
@ZulfikarNS
@ZulfikarNS 6 ай бұрын
Take rest for 8 months AT LEAST, and THEN train for a 3 month fight camp.
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