Joe Rogan ( @PowerfulJRE ) talks about Kyokushin Karate

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[@andrenoujaim5656]

Kyokushin is an adaptive style. Take any students who started in Kyokushin, they can easily learn, succeed and adapt to doing Kickboxing, Boxing, and Grappling. Thank you for the acknowledgment, Joe Rogan.

[@oliversacks3837]

@@MartinhoRamos1990 GSP said that his takedown success in MMA is based on Kyokushin timing.

[@diodelvino3048]

same with American Kempo/Kenpo, Stephen thompson has kept alot of fundamentals but improved his style of it even more with Kickboxing

[@user-hj6qx7zb9t]

@@MartinhoRamos1990 old karate includes grappling. And moders styles like kudo is combo b/w kyo and judo

[@nationofisrael12tribes81]

Mix it with Kempo.

[@zukairshebaz7348]

Is it true, that Kyokushin conditions your body and legs to tank hits easier?

[@joe1940]

Andy Hug was a Kyokushin practitioner. He was one of the greatest kickboxing champions ever, IMHO.

[@safouane.7841]

Andy was the best at his time. Such a loss really.

[@TheDavid2222]

Andy Hug is my favorite martial artist. Thanks for mentioning him.

[@TariqAli-dn8xt]

Andy hug the best K1 Grand prix champion 96

[@Mateus2234]

Francisco Filho too, and he fighted against A Hug in K1 and Kyokushin Worlds

[@bisonmma-kickboxing2511]

💯💯

[@xxPanteraxxx]

The Dutch style of Kickboxing was heavily influenced by Kyokushin.

[@KidJames81]

Dutch style is influenced by Kyokushin and Muay Thai

[@at3396]

Kickboxing came from a kyokushin practitioner who lost to a muay thai fighter.

[@MCJohn-117]

@@at3396 Sanda > muay thai

[@stuart4860]

stay casual.......

[@Anas-io3zf]

@@KidJames81 western boxing also

[@CastroEulis145]

Dolph Lundgren also has multple degrees in engineering and chemistry or some shit. Thats what really impresses me about the guy. Black belt in kyokushin kai is impressive enough, but throw in science based college degrees as well.

[@RanjitSingh-em7lx]

I know right Plus he is a good actor as well. In the Aquaman film he plays an elder statesman role with great gravitas.

[@mortalkomment8028]

Kyokushin is beautiful and brutal. Admiration to anyone mastering it! Respect even to those who have learned a little from it.

[@gentlemandudley7761]

I am a 7th kyu blue belt right now and boy I gotta tell you. It's a challenge every day.

[@Leprutz]

I am just starting now. 37 years old... but I am striving to get my Black belt.

[@gentlemandudley7761]

@@Leprutz OSU! Keep it up!

[@Leprutz]

@@gentlemandudley7761 thanks a lot. I am try8ng to Hardenberg my ody qhen I am alone... any good Tips for that?

[@gentlemandudley7761]

@@Leprutz do a few knuckle push-ups during your workout. You can also find a makiwara online. It doesn't have to be those ones that stand up on their own you can also get one of those mounted ones. Bag work always helps. You can always request from one of your training partners (preferably an instructor) to do hard body training with you. Don't Go full blast on each other. Just keep it controlled. All of these are great options so choose any number of them that you like to do. Don't try to go all black belt city on your first go. Just ease yourself into it and watch the improvements happen.

[@manuelnunez8802]

LOVE this clip. Joe Rogan definitely throws down some knowledge. Kyokushin dudes are BADASS. You get some dude who's a LEGIT Kyokushin Black Belt AND he has a Judo Black Belt??? Stay AWAY from that dude!!!!!

[@equinoxx1604]

Kyokushin is the bodybuilding of martial arts. A good martial art in building a martial foundation and building the body

[@fightfannerd2078]

kyokushin karate is hardcore the training is also crazy they break stones with their hands

[@nvanguy6868]

I trained and fought in kyokushin, now im doing muay thai and i find most of the guys training have really soft bodies and legs compared to the kyokushin fightersp

[@infestchristopher1457]

Great combination

[@koraegi]

You're going to hit like a truck jesus

[@nvanguy6868]

Thanks, its a totally different game the good boxers kick the shit out of me but im slowly getting a better head defense and boxing When it comes to kicks and kicking range i can hang w anyone in my gym

[@mortalkomment8028]

@Owl Longbow Certainly not to Thais. They're like stone.

[@aaronmarshall5958]

Which do you recommend kyokushin or muay thai?

[@MUSTANGRD]

Apart from being Karate champion, he was a marine, he has both an engineers and chemical engineers degree, he was a bouncer, an action movie star both in a negative and a lead roles! wow

[@stuart4860]

that has fk all to do with it.........

[@f-a4survivalmilitaryshovel791]

He won life

[@threepowerchords]

I did martial arts for a number of years including Kyokushin - I did Kyokushin for two years. I loved it but I used to come home with bruises all over - It's the toughest martial art style I have ever practiced, hands down. There's nothing that even comes close to it

[@mortalkomment8028]

Try Muay Thai. Both are brutal but MT has much better hands - if you use gloves. Kyokushin body punches are killing, though.

[@yancarloreyes6724]

Really? Nothing? Nothing comes to mind?

[@technochemservices2855]

@@mortalkomment8028 nah! Not tough as kyokushin

[@kepinto1010]

@@mortalkomment8028I’ve done Muay Thai consistently for 3 years my Shotokan karate schools tops it by far with Conditioning and techniques

[@madspetersen1708]

Dolph Lundgren holds a 4. Dan Black belt. European champion 1980-81. Has a master as a civil Engineering in chemistry.

[@rollotomassi6374]

OSU…!!!! I trained in Oyama style for 15 years, it is the real dangerous deal…..no buying a black belt here, after your katas, 10 or 12…..your black belt promotion consists 4 or 5 students going up and 50 plus fighters to free fight with …….with a minimum of 14 two minute free fights, after three or four you are still on the mat and as tired as you’ve ever been…..and they bring in new fresh fighters to spar with…..like boot camp there is no getting out of it, and no quitting……Oyama Karate is full contact bare hands, bare feet traditional Japanese style karate….OSU !

[@perfecto25]

Ive trained kyokushin for over 10 yrs (Oyama), its def a hard style but it worth it, you learn to take a beating w/o losing composure. I had guys in my class with 20-30 lbs over my weight, doing mawashi geris to the thighs, holy moly that hurts haha, legs are purple the next day.

[@rollotomassi6374]

OSU….!!! from the Birmingham Dojo ! Bring that knee up to block for those dangerous mawashi geris……😀and OSU !

[@sallhame]

Kyokushinkai as we called it back in the day was extremely tough training. I wonder how may many martial artists today have done 5000 kicks in 1.5 hours?

[@gentlemandudley7761]

Osu from the Los Angeles Little Tokyo dojo!

[@musashiblade1512]

I just joined the World Oyama Nashville dojo. Osu

[@danmark7352]

The best kyokushin training is the one where you have to crawl home after training.

[@robertfry7022]

Trained many years in Kyokushin . great style .

[@bluesummerstaylor3987]

You want to see a bad ass Kyokushin guy? Mike fucking Bernardo. The way guys looked when he landed that knock out blow was truly as hell terrifying and awe inducing. R.I.P Mike Bernardo.

[@tonybreward8678]

Dolph was Sweden’s equivalent of a navy seal , He has iq of 160. He’s also a nice guy my old instructor used to go to their dojo to prepare for tournaments,

[@pulse4503]

according to Seagal, Dolph aint a real martial artist

[@osseous42]

​@@pulse4503 😄

[@Vegitobluuuuu]

I trained for kyokushin and our tournaments consisted of breaking a big piece of wood from a tree with your legs. And breaking bricks 🧱 and ice 🧊 with your hands. Osu 🥋

[@babyfacenate835]

My dad trained with Mas Oyama a few months before he died. I have big respect for kyokushin.

[@user-zm4vk4jh6j]

Do you even know what osu means... smh

[@babyfacenate835]

@@user-zm4vk4jh6j my father told me it can mean many things it doesn't have to mean one thing. I haven't done it but I'm going to a gym Sunday to start training. No need to hate man

[@babyfacenate835]

@@user-zm4vk4jh6j for example like hello or thank you

[@brennansnowdon9299]

That's awesome I used to do that in Goju Ryu love karate right now I'm doing boxing to help my hands gonna join a kyokushin dojo after lockdown

[@retostocker531]

Hi...im a former Kyokushin Karateka (former cause i havent practiced FOR YEARS) from SWITZERLAND...Joe praises people like e.hoost and d.lundgren (and righfully so) but as far as i know he NEVER mentioned a felow countryman of mine....whos name was Andy Hug...i URGE any fan of the striking martial arts to give that name a youtube search...i SINCERELY doubt you be unimpressed or even disapointed..thanks and bye

[@catalinionescu173]

I trained Kyokushin when I was a teenager and also participated in tournaments. I have such great memories, but I can't believe I used to live them. The level of effort, stamina, power, resistance, speed and technique required to be just a decent fighter is breathtaking. Now, many years after I quitted, I cannot believe that I was capable of practicing Kyokushin at competitive level. I'm still into sports and I still put in a lot of effort, but thinking about having one Kyokushin training like I used to is simply intimidating. I remember we used to have 4-5 training sessions per day during training camps. Basically, anytime we wouldn't sleep or eat, we trained. The exams for belt degrees were hell: 3-4 hours of physical exercises, throwing legs and punches and almost tournament level sparring. My legs and abs were made of steel back then because besides physical exercises, we literally hardened ourselves by letting sparring partners to throw powerful legs and punches without blocking or avoiding them. Although I appreciate the level of training I had thanks to Kyokushin, I think that the most important thing is what I learned in terms of self-awareness, respect, ambition and being realistic, because this lessons will never die. We were training with the saying "Train until you cannot do it anymore and then, do one more rep". I applied this saying in everything I did in life afterwards. I could write a book describing all the lessons I learned, all the emotions I felt, all the sweat, tears and blood I put in trainings, about everything I lived during that time. I miss being a Kyokushin karateka and I will always be thankful for what I learned. Even writing this comment brings back so much memories...OSU!

[@leppodavies8606]

I reached 3rd Dan in kyokushin until I decided to stop martial arts in general. Always had a great time and it was a fantastic outlet. I have a lot of fond memories.

[@williampeckham9838]

I tried it once and loved it. The conditioning is no joke. I struggled to walk out of my first lesson but loved it. I tried the advanced class first and I could handle it due to experience in other martial arts, but I was missing all the katas and drills, etc. I was gonna continue but unfortunately it was to far from my house.

[@tacticalshortshorts1979]

Fun fact about Mas Oyama, who founded Kyokushin Karate, he was known for wrestling bulls and breaking their horns off with a knife hand

[@joshuabrant3487]

please do not promote that bs story lol

[@dadaimon8140]

@@joshuabrant3487 there's a video of him fighting a horned animal he also trained on the mountains which made his body stronger than the average man during that time

[@eliasaquinomijares4072]

@@joshuabrant3487 u fucking dumbs there’s a video of it dumbass

[@realamericannegro977]

He is the only reason people respect this terrible style. He is great but the style aint. If he didnt cut of bull's horns with a knife hand people would likely see this style as a waste of time and egotistical. You will be surprised at how "tough" they act until wind blows past their faces (based off what I dealt with when I trained with them in my area). Without face contact there is no real toughness.

[@eliasaquinomijares4072]

@@realamericannegro977 don’t forget shinken shobou Kyokushin where they allowed knee and face punches to the head but with mma gloves

[@ramonlong1079]

Osu!.. yes Mas Oyama invented the greatest full contact style.I went to Green belt ..then oue Sensi died in an automobile wreck..I loved the style because i did in a fight just what i was taught..one hit..done..

[@jaykecraig6708]

I dont care what anyone says kyokushin is the best strength conditioning martial art to begin with and to use as a base to all other martial.arts ive done 25 plus of varieties of fight sports muay thai boxing judo bbj tkd and kyokushin has been the most brutal on my body knuckles shins and everywhere else kyokushin is the only one of these that taught me how to throw a punch with massive power without telegraphing any movement OSU

[@yawayawa946]

I'd say wrestling is the best base to begin with but kyokushin comes a close second. Wrestling and kyokushin had similar gruelling training except the wrestling replace kata with weight cutting. GSP uses both and he is one of the goat.

[@kalemene8901]

OSU!

[@NinjaKumaReacts]

He was a student of Hanshi Taylor here in Sydney while he worked as a Bouncer at Kings Cross while studying at University. He became National Champion and also an International Fighter. People would pull out of tournaments because he was soo big and strong. Hanshi passed away last week. Osu.

[@lebogangseabi525]

When you just say Osu. Some of us already know what's up.

[@thebrownbaldy]

Joe "(insert name) is a bad mofo" Rogan. But frfr, this story is true that Dolph nearly killed Stallone in 1985 while shooting Rocky 4. Scary stuff

[@Therabithole]

He shouldn't have accepted hitting Stallone, he could had killed him.

[@RickBach-hy8ch]

THANK YOU JOE YOUR A GENIUS WARRIOR GOD BLESS YOUR HELP TO HUMANITY ON THIS SHOW 🙏 ❤

[@joshuapacia6316]

Bruce Lee had read many Mas Oyama's karate books during his lifetime. Bruce Lee was probably influenced by the old Kyokushin training methods that he saw from the books in order to push his body into insane features. Anyway, Kyokushin is one of the best based for Jeet Kune Do to help the martial artists become complete fighter.

[@edp.1917]

Osu!

[@Imersaototalnoingles]

Glaube Feitosa was one of the best ever!

[@ronniewilson142]

I struggle to kick high so tuck up kyokushin cos i could base more kicks to the legs. Ended up loving it.

[@slipperydoorknob2173]

Fun Fact: the Japanese dude that Lundgren fought in The Punisher movie was Kenji Yamaki, he ended up winning the 1995 IKO1 World Open Tournament by beating Kazumi Hajime, a fucking badass Kyokushin karateka.

[@MegaLmae]

He still attends the karate tournaments. I saw his pictures with the winners.

[@not1iota229]

I remmember seeing Dolph when I was a kid from when him and my dad trained together doing Kyokushin at sydney uni there was a video on youtube that must have been removed with them both in the same team. We went to see He Man movie because of Dolph.

[@alaincisera]

I trained under hanshi john taylor in the 90's, that man was a powerhouse he had about 700 fights zero losses.

[@salzx5196]

I have a blackbelt in kyokoshin and mas oyama is the master of this style of martial arts it is well known he broke a bull's skull with the palm of his hand best fighting style may sound basic but is the most effective in a street fight punches to the body kicks to the legs and back heel kicks not the most flashy but the most effective

[@gangstaman2069]

But everybody forgets that knee strikes are also very powerful weapon in kyokushin.Most kyokushin fighters don't practice knee kicks after the 70's and early 80's cause the rules were watered-down.Seido kai kan has old kyokushin rules as some other kyokushin off shoots as well

[@tonybreward8678]

You have a black belt in a style that you cannot even spell , Kancho masutatsu Oyama broke the horns off bulls . No self respecting black belt would ever spell it wrong.

[@swordleo]

@@tonybreward8678 maybe english in not his first language

[@tonybreward8678]

@@swordleo 😂😂 Kyokushinkai is Japanese

[@pagangwynne3627]

@@swordleo Doesn't matter. Sosai (Mas Oyama) insisted that Kyokushin be taught in Japanese worldwide so that any Kyokushin karateka can go into any Kyokushin dojo anywhere in the world and still understand whats going on and be able to train. So your language of birth has nothing to do with it.

[@jfd4755]

Andy hug was the bad ass

[@nelsonzambrano5788]

Joe Rogan definitely knows his history...

[@rcnal22]

I started in Kyokushin. Now I’m in shotokan. Completely different systems.

[@roninmusashimiayamoto241]

He incorporates boxing into his style before he joined the yakuza he was know as Choi p,dal

[@georgehartas5039]

dolphins was 1977 full contact australian heavyweight champion, after he won the european championships as a green belt, he is currently a third 3rd dan

[@dartharaneus67]

His name is Dolph Lundgren, not Dolphins. Damn you, Google Translate! LOL

[@MichaelThomasOflaherty]

Dolph Lundgren is from Sweden and He's a national champion for Kyokushin Kaikan Karate

[@dartharaneus67]

2:20 -> I don't know if you implied practitioner or founder, when you mentionned Mas Oyama, but Masutatsu "Mas" Oyama was in fact the founder of Kyokushin Karate.

[@el_chico1313]

do a podcast on andy hug, he was at a time the best paid kickboxer in the world

[@Docinaplane]

Mas Oyama was the originator of Kyokushin Kai.

[@jacobfoster9185]

Dolph is also a certified genius

[@johnman8647]

Don't forget Dolphs multiple PHD's.

[@ShihanTomCallahan]

OSU! I have been hit by Dolph and he indeed hits like a truck

[@skullleader220]

Yes, Mas Oyama is Kyokushin

[@bearstriker1695]

I wonder if Rocky being on an insane cut made this even harder Also gsp did kyokushin

[@STBRetired1]

Nothing shows great intelligence like saying "motherfucker" at least three times per sentence. His high school and his mother must be so proud.

[@pelado9293]

Don't be a pussy, Larusso

[@kesenaememere8520]

@@pelado9293 lol karate kid reference

[@bxgaucho4762]

Kyokushin+Judo = street effective combo!

[@winstong7438]

cool

[@ch-sqpopay9949]

i am so curious what Rogan Thinks about Andy Hug....

[@vadrekfeg3318]

Osu from Romania !

[@eboymorales3047]

i've been sparred a kyokushin fighter, my brain shuts down for a few seconds when he threw a jab at me and his kicks was lightning fast and i can't check it..

[@MegaLmae]

Kyokushin is a full contact sport

[@darkythecrazyninja5228]

Mr Hanayama Necessary measures reasons why I burnt 🔥 it 🥵 Clever timing Proportions & adapt evolve

[@Venture85]

I want to become a 2dan in Kyokushin karate so I can become a badass

[@mat7802]

My sensei is a black belt 3rd dan in kyokushin karate, she is a fucking tank and she almost knocked me out cold with a single kick once, and shes also one of the sweetest and most passive girls i know, so it wont necesarily make you a badass lol

[@Charismaniac]

Stallone got hit by Earnie Shavers. The guy was supposed to play Clubber Lang but after hitting Sly for real, like he demanded to be hit, the part went to Mr T.

[@SenseiNWDA]

Semmy Schiltt, Bas Rutten, and many, many more trained in Kyokushin.

[@jamesjohnson427]

Dolf also an engineer

[@angelomenil8800]

2:00

[@pwidner70]

Get Dolph Lundgren on the podcast Joe!

[@ghosteyes2708]

I think what Oyama should have done, was to develop the sparring in 2 different ways: Normal kyokushin sparring with no gloves and no punches to the face, and a bit later, starting maybe from blue belt, both normal sparring and sparing with gloves and punches to the face. Kyokushin is so close to perfection and the no punches to the face thing ruins it a bit.

[@virgiljjacas1229]

But I thought that Kyokushin training is what really matters.

[@gentlemandudley7761]

OSU!

[@Patriot1389]

Osu from Serbia

[@masterjim69]

Kyokushin is considered the strongest karate. Founded by Mas Oyama, it has beaten other karate styles, tae kwon do (which is really a sport derived from tang soo do, which was Chuck Norris' base style), and one of the few styles to beat muay thai. It employs "iron body" training like Shaolin kung fu, which has also beaten tae kwon do and muay thai. Oyama was the one that started full contact, criticizing karate back then as being a dance. Kyokushin is also one of Michael Jai White and Sonny Chiba's style. Chiba studied kyokushin and goju-ryu under Oyama, and shorinji kempo under Doshin So. He also had a gymnastics background and almost went to the Olympics. Check out the Oyama Trilogy films made by Chiba. Karate Bull Fighter, Karate Bear Fighter, and Karate for Life. They're in Japanese with English subtitles on DVD. Another film made in Korean and Japanese called Fighter in the Wind, about the life of Oyama, a Korean born Japanese has very realistic fight scenes, choreographed by the Kyokushin Association.

[@claire4212]

Correct me if I’m wrong. I would love to know more about these. Didn’t Mas Oyama trained under 3 karate masters? If so then isn’t Kyokushin Karate influenced by the karate that he learned? What’s the differences between Kyokushin Karate and the “normal” karate?

[@masterjim69]

@@claire4212 Yes. Oyama was influenced by Korean Kempo, Goju-Ryu, and Shotokan styles. He would go up in the mountains and train, punching and kicking trees, practice barefoot in the snow, and meditating under icy cold waterfalls. He conditioned his body to take punishment. He returned to the land in Japan and challenged other karate schools and won. He then becamed famous by introducing the "Kyokushin Way".

[@claire4212]

@@masterjim69 that sounds like Shaolin Kungfu training…

[@claire4212]

@@masterjim69 also Kempo seems to originated in China and then spread to Japan

[@masterjim69]

Yes. Very similar. Oyama started the full contact bare knuckle tournaments.

[@seanmayo206]

Joe used to be on the other side of the screen

[@ymd2516]

So Sly was put in the ICU by Dolph Lundgren, knocked out by Antonio Tarver and had his neck broken by Steve Austin Also kyokushin is legit like

[@sjcobra84]

196cm tall and can break your face.

[@Dan.50]

Kyokushin was created in the 60's by Mas Oyama to try and make karate work.

[@CharlesBetancourt-iq9oe]

Kyokushins badass. But what you don't realize, Mr. Rogan, is that you just complimented kungfu. See the video " Yi Quan vs Karate" you'll know what I mean. There's also video " teikiken( the Japanese word for Yi Quan) vs. Karate" Where the weight classifications are quite even and the matches are too. Mas Oyama incorporated Yi Quan into kyokusjin for this reason. Thank you for complimenting kungfu.😊😊😊

[@Lcky-gu2gi]

And Casuals think Kyokushin is a joke lol I dare them to try it once im sure Kyokushin will more than welcome u to a free class

[@onetwo9719]

It’s not a joke but in terms of creating a fighter it is lacking, the conditioning is no joke but the traditional techniques could be improved.If you pair it with boxing it can work really well

[@Lcky-gu2gi]

@@onetwo9719 I agree thats why we crosstrain in boxing too

[@ZAKU73]

Kyokushin for life. Osu!

[@arthurwatts1680]

Anyone who has ever seen Dolph Lundgren in the flesh - as opposed to through the lens of a camera on set - will know that you're looking at a Viking. Even if he had never done anything more than weights and western boxing, I'm confident that Dolph would have put many of the big-name action stars from the 70s and 80s on their butts. I also suspect that he was a lot better educated than many of those gigantic egos, even if he was never going to set the acting world on fire. I'm not going to draw any comparisons to Bruce Lee - Dolph was just a kid when Lee died - but it's worth noting that Lee cited his most dangerous potential opponent as a 'big, strong guy with high tolerance to pain who just keeps coming' and that was Dolph Lundgren in the late 70s. One of the last people you would ask to hit you ;)

[@davidverdugo6266]

Also the fact dolph is 6'6 200 something pounds shredded someone that big and in shape is dangerous off the bat.

[@andrewadams3111]

We wrestle in America. Ain't hard to submit people if your a beast on top.

[@magharninja1811]

Kyokushin is crossfit of martial arts

[@mat7802]

What

[@Tungsten-le1wy]

THIS IS NOT AN OPINION, TO LEARN HOW TO DEFEND PUNCHES TO THE FACE YOU NEED TO TRAIN PUNCHES TO THE FACE

[@all.things.boosted]

Put in the ring with a boxer! Please!!!!!

[@mider9996]

GSP is shotokan no? Bas Rutten is Kyokushin

[@SpaceMarine500]

Lyoto Machida is shotokan. GSP is kyokushin.

[@mider9996]

@@SpaceMarine500 I don't think so

[@SpaceMarine500]

@@mider9996 Check it out yourself

[@mider9996]

@@SpaceMarine500 yeah...i did, I know for a fact Bas does kyokishin

[@SpaceMarine500]

@@mider9996 Yes he did but I'm talking about GSP.

[@stuart4860]

way to many casuals in here commenting

[@sakuratwister870]

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[@superbongergo4662]

joe rogan has great martial arts knowledge? and didn't know mas oyama invented kyokushin. kinda embarassing

[@Tungsten-le1wy]

in kyokushin it's imposible to develop good boxing fundamentals. the training and competition is too unrealistic and ridículous, if you put a kyoukushin black belt that only do kyokushin in a boxing ring against someone with 6 months of boxing training the kyokushinn will get destroyed, kyokushin is just a waste of time,

[@all.things.boosted]

Opposite is also true so what's ur damn point

[@Johnnythefirst]

This is mostly true, unless the boxer gets to eat a couple of heavy low kicks first. They are very complimentary styles to train though.

[@Tungsten-le1wy]

kyokushin is just TKD WT with lowkicks lol... a useless martial art without punches to the face, but a tkd guy understands that he can't defend punches to the face because he never trains it, instead kyokushin practitioners are arrogant and think they can defend and throw punches to the face without ever training it.

[@DKYtut]

Tons of kyukushin fighters in history have transitioned to kickboxing (well kickboxing comes from kyukushin..) and mma succesfully , they will train sparring with head target when they transition to the other sports , that's just common sense. The best kickboxers in the lighter weight classes have always and currently still, are dominated by Japanese kickboxers with kyukushin background, you cleary don't know what you're talking about. Out of the top 10 pound for pound kickboxers currently 4 are Japanese, and currently the best pound for pound kickboxer, and arguably the best kickboxer the past 20 years Tenshin Nasukawa started from Kyokushin.

[@Tungsten-le1wy]

@@DKYtut the fighters that you named needed to train alot of muay thai and kickboxing to be able to fight outside of kyokushin because in karate kyokushin you don't learn how to throw and defend punches to the face, AND THIS IS NOT AN OPINION, TO LEARN HOW TO DEFEND PUNCHES TO THE FACE YOU NEED TO TRAIN PUNCHES TO THE FACE.

[@DKYtut]

@@Tungsten-le1wy Kyokushin karateka are known to have tough trainings, and it's their training mentality that give them the advantage to succefully transition into other arts. There are plenty of ways to train head target like target training, bagwork etc, unless they fight against a boxer in boxing rules (which won't happen anyway) it doesn't matter, majority of fighters nowadays crosstrain anyways. It's still one of the most viable standup bases along with kickboxing , muay thai and Sanda.

[@Wongwongwong10000]

Kyokushin is hardcore. They break you down physically they train extremely hard. Everyone who trains in Kyokushin can fight. Can take many kicks to the body, they are mentally tough. Most MMA Kyokushin fighters are legends GSP and Bas Rutten. You put any Taekwondo fighter in with Kyokushin you better keep your hands up. You can’t compare Kyokushin with other styles because even the hybrids Kyokushin styles are hardcore like Seidokaikan. If you aren’t disciplined and mentally tough for the training you will quit because your body will be broken. I loved taking Kyokushin it toughens you up.