Joe Rogan - Weed & Mental Illness | JRE Pot Debate

[@butholelord9822]

I feel like a lot of mental problems are related to social media instead of cannabis

[@BluBlu111]

Now take it from me hardcore pot user for 26 years.... crazy on it and crazy off if it....and the Chronic use has made me depressed and brain damaged.

[@xNinjamodx]

@@BluBlu111 Kudos to you for keeping it a stack. I been smoking since I was 18. Everyday. I'm 24 now and even I can see a decline.

[@rondaronda4564]

I don't smoke but seeing it from the outside people that smoke without social media are normal compared to social media zealots those people are cray cray

[@BluBlu111]

@@rondaronda4564 it catches up with everyone. There's thousands upon thousands of people's testimonials on zoom everyday and every night that will tell you the truth about it. It makes everyone paranoid and if they say it doesn't they're either lying or in denial.

[@rondaronda4564]

@@BluBlu111 I believe it! I smoked a few times and I felt like I was not in control of my own opinions those people that smoke need to feel accepted by other people rather than being true to what they believe in because they are scared of society, which I don't blame them.

[@Z_Co95]

The dude states it’s not medicine because of the psychotic side effects. Well shit explain adderall. SSRI’s, Xanax? Those drugs made me see the darkest places in my mind. Weed is the only thing that helps me feel normal

[@dtm934]

Anecdotal claim.

[@CloroxBleach-69420]

💯💯💯💯

[@briank1263]

Definitely benzos are the worst. I've been tapering for over a year and I am still feeling withdrawal after only 2 weeks without it. I'm also using cannabis and it is helping me through the anxiety. Sometimes it can heighten my anxiety but I know it is just the withdrawal and it is going to be ok. You have to taper on these powerful drugs as to not die from withdrawal. I'm thankful for CBD and THC.

[@Z_Co95]

Brian Keough tell me about it man. I went to rehab due to these satanic pills. Been clean for 16 months. It takes time and I still struggle but it gets way better just trust the process

[@briank1263]

@@Z_Co95 thanks for your support! I appreciate that.

[@jessem8928]

Joe should light up a giant joint during this debate.

[@ninjamortyC420]

Same...

[@NigelThornbery]

seanthabawn wooahh you're so cool.

[@kiralevenson1706]

Yes!

[@realcane9908]

He really missed a huge comedic opportunity. He coulda took a puff and just said “seems good to me” instead of debating with professionals. He just wants to justify using so much weed and being too lazy to make his own platform. Literally the biggest podcast on earth and you went to Spotify? Wasted talent, is what joe is.

[@joneRueben]

@@realcane9908 you would too for 100 mill lol

[@HeadCase55]

Weed absolutely ruined my life for a few years. It affects everyone differently and should be treated as such. People that say it has no negative effects are wrong, and people that say it has no health benefits are wrong.

[@mytube650]

I think it’s a small percentage of us that have serious issues with pot. Most people can take or leave it. Others can take a lot of it without much issue. I got started at 13 and got the psychosis they are talking about. The friends I was using with did not.

[@ejczuebezogae2261]

Whats happened with you? I have right now problem with my mind becouse of weed and I don't know what to do.

[@HeadCase55]

@@ejczuebezogae2261 I'm doing much better. I haven't smoked in 4 years. I did get major anxiety and depression that I still struggle with but learning to cope. I would say stop immediately. If you arent getting better after quitting or can't quit (you should be able to) then I would consider counseling which I did for about 3 years

[@mytube650]

@@ejczuebezogae2261 I go to 12 step meetings and practice Buddhism, I also did my fare share of counseling. There’s a lot to be said for exercising but the real issue was that I lost my ability to connect with people and build friendships/relationships outside of smoking pot. The 12 step meetings give me a great place to work on this because everyone there understands.

[@HeadCase55]

@@mytube650 I'll have to look into that because I also lost the ability to connect to people without smoking

[@landonpuffer4857]

As someone who suffers from PTSD, MDD and Psychosis, I have a 100% benefit from Cannabis. I have been able to get off of antidepressants and all medications because of Canabis. Never did cannabis my whole 28 years until now and can say I am not going to stop because IT WORKS

[@mcozy333]

THC is a tri cyclic terpene ... same exact thing prescribed by psychiatrists

[@landonpuffer4857]

@@edward6425 I recommend you speak to the pharmacist to help determine what’s best for you. For myself, sativa strains sometimes backfire & cause more anxiety. Indica helps more but I always aim for the strains designed to relax rather than energize. Dosage is huge for me too. Apparently I’m a light weight for a fit 230lbs guy. I aim for 5-10 mg & rarely go over 20.

[@tonyengardio8413]

When I blaze up I don't think about suicide I think about Domino's Pizza

[@My_Alchemical_Romance]

Tony Engardio right!

[@johnaranjo2059]

Gotta be stoned to enjoy dominos lol

[@Theproof12]

Lol yep

[@tomodachimusic1891]

Tony Engardio yessir. Although, I do get close to killing myself due to the 120-160 minute wait time

[@GH29111]

and then order one

[@diegofeelax4907]

I’m 17 I been depressed for about a good year or two and for the first year I probably smoked like 3 times and soon I became tired of living and I disliked my life tbh I was so sad I started to lose my appetite and lost 20 pounds within two months and I finally tried to get some help and got therapy, months later of therapy I was still feeling the same way like it didn’t help at all, and I finally took things into my own hands and I decided to dabble with smoking pot, the first few months of smoking it was great, it would help me think more clearly allowing me to think about things from a different perspective help me think basically. As well as helping me see things for the way they are good or bad, and helped me realize how good life actually is. As well as helping me with my appetite as well and came back to a healthier weight for my body. I think it has been very beneficial for me but at the same time I can not abuse it because then I soon lose all the benefits from it.

[@kc201310]

Also try vaping cbd it seriously helped me so much

[@RyanT301]

Exactly, it makes everything more fun and interesting it’s crazy

[@fiber04]

healthy approach

[@michaelsanchez8519]

Hope you’re feeling better 👍

[@BigBodyBiggolo]

Switching strains and between CBD and THC and using edibles can help that problem, also just cause you build a tolerance and dont get high doesnt mean it stops working against depression. Hope youre still doing good

[@louiseottosson1401]

Let me just give Joe Rogan much credit for opening for such debates in his podcast and making them most often really open and cool, even when his guests gets overexcited he manage to bring the discussion back to when it was a calm, profound discussion. In this one it is obvious that he tries to make the discussion as "not irritable" as possible and he's really good at it. At the same time he manage to puch his guests to a point where they feel questioned. Which is exactly what you want as a listener, he really succeed in giving the listener something to think och reflect about after listening to it.

[@ericb7937]

Would be nice if he continued these sort of debates with 2 people at the same time

[@yiannisindichakis5329]

My friend had a lethal type of cancer and chose to use cannabis for a comfort and mental acuity and it was so good for him. I think it helped him live a longer and better life at home until hospitalization was absolutely necessary. I think he made a good choice, and that it does have good and reasonable therapeutic properties.

[@stretchlindsay3547]

Agree. G'Day from western australia

[@dey4588]

Apoptosis!!! Eating cannabis extends human lifespans! Also find the book killing cancer with spices. Allicin-crushed raw garlic, curcumin, cinnamon, black seed oil, there are others; science can be found in pubme,gov. 🖖

[@onztufan828]

Agreed! Gday from Melbourne

[@berrios181]

As a 45 year old woman with MS, cannabis is the only thing that helps my nerve pain and also helps me sleep. I am the definition of a functional stoner. With cannabis, I can get up and go to work and be a responsible, tax paying adult. The worst thing I've done on weed is raid the fridge or order door dash.

[@kokosovatycinka]

I feel ya

[@orwellianreptilian2914]

ive smoked weed throughout my life (mostly 17-30), though not much anymore. only once has it ever helped me with pain and it wore off as soon as my tolerance went up (a couple or few days). i think the "weed relieves pain" thing is mostly bunk. maybe im wrong but ive never heard anything about weed actually acting on the nervous system. ive been hearing this since 2000 when it was medical only in california (when i was a recreational medical patient). and i know for a fact that if ANYTHING helps any kind of pain... theres no way that marijuana is the "only" thing that does it... what youre experiencing is psychological, which is often what much of pain sensation is... pain can be increased by acknowledgment of it and decreased by dismissal, to a greater extent than most people realize. and focusing on it develops neurological connections that perceive it. this is true for everything that you do, including "feeling" pain. now youre going to say "no, you dont understand, ive tried everything" and im going to say, "weed can help with pain by distracting you from it, the reason you "feel" the need to be on psychoactive chemicals all day long is because youre masking something psychological that causes you to dwell in it or havent learned how to dismiss the pain." them im going to say, "so long as youre doing what you need to do and not harming others, i have no problem with what you do." but dont fool yourself into thinking that weed is magical or that you have no other options.

[@jamessamuel6187]

My uncle got told if his doctor back in the 90s to try it for his ms and it was the only thing that worked for him to get a sleep that was in Scotland and it's still illegal over here not even for medical use

[@hipduh]

@@orwellianreptilian2914 You should understand that everyone is different my guy, also if you smoke consistently for a long time you almost get a tolerance cap if that makes sense. After I smoked a lot (16-18) ever since then even when I haven't smoked for a year my tolerance goes right back up after a few days just like you said it does for you " it wore off as soon as my tolerance went up (a couple or few days)." I'm not saying weed has some magical power or anything like that what I'm saying is you gotta think about it from other peoples perspective like if A grandpa with Parkinsons disease used cannabis or even CBD it would help then a lot more than it would help you or I since we've used it so much, kinda like having your first cigarette verses your 100th

[@orwellianreptilian2914]

@@hipduh Don't "logic" with me, kid. That "everybody's different" thing doesn't work here. This is how it literally is. If you have a more technical explanation, I'm willing to hear it... But you don't. Because it doesn't exist. All you have is "well, what if puppies and moonbeams?!" And how long do you think it's going to take grandpa to get to his 100th joint? Marijuana isn't something that you can use everyday for long periods and maintain relative efficacy like Vicodin or Adderall, used for their intended purpose. And there's a reason for that... Because marijuana is psychotropic. It can affect the perception of pain and THAT can very widely between people. And if THAT works... Then the issue that it resolves, to whatever extent it does, is psychological. To explain that properly would require a lot more effort than I'm willing to apply at the moment. But to summarize, attention to any particular thing, literally anything, will develop neurological structures responsible for perceiving and interacting with that thing. Unfortunately, it's more difficult to undo once it has been developed and most people are not either aware and or objective "enough" to do it effectively. Just reiterate, if it wasn't clear in my initial comment, my point was, "in this case and context (pain), if weed can do it, then there's a more effective strategy."

[@pbjake15]

I wish every debate was this chill. You can feel them trying to understand each other and I love it.

[@bobbyjohnson5637]

Sarcasm

[@jeffharris7777]

You have to have 3 men to have a debate this chill.

[@hew195050]

Cause they're not politicians

[@emtfirebb]

Lol two of them smoked before the debate 🤣

[@ssjbroly8735]

@@emtfirebb LMFAO

[@camkraw893]

Trying to have a logical and factual debate with a former magazine writer/crime thriller novelist who's wife is a doctor, is like trying to have a logical and factual debate with a former magazine writer/crime thriller novelist who's wife is a doctor.

[@jd8600crti]

Campbell Krawitz underrated comment

[@MajesticDre]

A "doctor"

[@tuck6464]

Not as bad as trying to have a logical/ factual debate/ semi-intelligent conversation with with a habitual pothead. On the other hand ,light a joint and they'll agree with anything you want them to,as long as you're passing it their way.

[@jd8600crti]

Tuck 646 mother of god your punctuation looks like it was done by a preschooler.

[@tuck6464]

@@jd8600crti ';!?#"""*,.✓{ That hurts!!!, I worked so hard on the the spelling!

[@qasimkhan-bf9ys]

Weed isn’t for everyone it effects people differently

[@SunGrowsJ]

Yea cus it depends on your mental state and how you View marijuana everybody goes through specific stuff etc

[@jesseramirez9205]

@@SunGrowsJ it affects everyone's neurological circuit, no matter who takes it. Moderation is always the second best option after abstinence.

[@Jonathan-jk7of]

I still remember an evening where I was planning on suicide and the next day I smoked pot and when it kicked in I started thinking about suicide again just to reflect on my thinking and this time the idea of suicide seemed so dumb all I was thinking about was how can I miss out on a beautiful experience like this, my experience with mj has been always peaceful, loving and appreciating my surroundings + motivating for some reason after that experience I quit thinking about suicide and I thank weed for that it saved me one way or the other.

[@mink33]

I love you stranger. This world will be more beautiful with you here. Glad weed put you into a better place for you not to do such a horrible thing. Had a friend who had depression committed suicide and it fucking hurts.

[@lethalfumes]

It always clears my mind when I’m going through a rough patch in life

[@miavatarful]

It depends on what strain you smoke. Each strain has vastly different effects from eachother

[@era3149]

Happens toooo often man

[@gianfrancofronzi8368]

This is what I would like people to see, maybe it's not for everyone, but it hasn't made things worse, if anything it might cause procrastination , but that might be what the citation needed at the time ? Nothing like giving some time to something that is important.

[@danielzarate4102]

I have a close friend that turned to cannabis at a time in her life when she was contemplating suicide and it saved her. Cannabis alleviated her severe depression and saved her life.

[@mcozy333]

Yeah, the come down from cannabis can be an issue for people treating depresion ... mention eating more essential fatty acids to her ... omega three ... that one closely resembles cannabis type metabolism and eating more omega three means more cannabinoids in the persons cells. more cannabinoids means less depression as cannabinoids enliven cells and make lipid signalling therein

[@yeti2237]

Hmm I guess that's subjective and anecdotal evidence based on how your friend felt.

[@Crucial47]

@@yeti2237 isnt a lot of medicine like that

[@SuperAussieOi]

I can honestly say as a daily pot smoker for 10 years and just recently decided to quit, it is definitely addictive and can become destructive if your not able to use moderately. There are withdrawals also such as not being able to sleep, having nightmares and becoming bored and irritated very easily which leads most to go back to smoking. I also have anxiety and depression which I was already prone to having I believe weed brought that out in me way more. The withdrawals sound Very mild but it’s still a thing people should know especially if you have an addictive personality. I also feel a lot more clear headed and in touch with reality which I didn’t want to believe because I love weed but if it’s doing more harm than good u gotta stop or you’re never going to get ahead in life. Just my opinion and it differs from person to person but I know many people who would be doing way better if they quit weed but know one wants to accept that there life could be better without it. Took me 10 years to finally accept it.

[@ocirhdz5]

[e-mail] can you email me

[@monarrez1234]

The thing is what dictates what the common definition of a happy life is? Its just so intricate

[@bestoffriends3281]

R u still a nonsmoker?

[@SuperAussieOi]

@@bestoffriends3281 yep haven’t had anything for over 3 years. Best decision I ever made.

[@Freddie4x]

I have anxiety and depression also ADHD too and i get irritated sometimes and i also have adhd but id rather smoke weed THAN take my ADHD meds… thats jus my personal opinion…i like that weed can be used to help me with my anxiety and depression and adhd but also i like that i can smoke it with someone whose perfectly fine lmfao its koo …also i dont perfer meds because it doesn’t feel the same weedd doesn’t give me any bad feelings only good feelings and i love that i can jus smoke whenever like theres no certain dosage and what not 😂

[@Jaret.Parker]

I never had depression till I started smoking pot. It progressively got worse too. I’m finally sober and my mental health is the best it’s been since I was a young kid. I’m my case the negative effects of thc outweighed the positive and that’s why I quit.

[@ocirhdz5]

Nice bro

[@Hxncho21]

nah u didn’t realize u was depressed till weed calmed u down nd u stopped nd thought bout yo life then it hit u

[@Peakfreud]

@@Hxncho21 How in the Hell can you psychoanalyze some one over social media.. ? That is an amazing skill & talent. You're up there with Jesus, Dali Lama, Nostradamus, Budda & Freud .. You could make money if you registered with Web M.D if you already haven't.

[@alphawavesready6639]

How much did u smoke before u stopped ?

[@kye4578]

@@alphawavesready6639 I share a similar experience to this guy and was smoking multiple times a day, at that point it’s not good if you or family members have a history of depression or anxiety

[@BigManJev]

I guess it’s entirely dependent on the individual. I was in a deep deep deep depression when I started smoking pot. After a 7 year relationship end. I wasn’t suicidal but maybe as close to it as you can be. And since I started smoking I’ve continuously been getting better (not because of the pot), I use it for sleep, anxiety, but I don’t really look at it as a huge deal. Guess everyone’s different. If you already have a mental illness then maybe it’s not the best thing for you to use

[@kaywire6099]

I think one of the biggest factors is how much pot each individual consumes. As a teenager who is at the point of smoking daily, it can definitely have negative effects on your mental health when you use it too much.

[@Americasorola]

Yesssss, I suffer from clinical depression now from smoking weed daily!

[@aidencashy6727]

@@Americasorola smoking weed does NOT CAUSE mental illness. It may exasperate illnesses but that is down to the discretion of the user. Stop spreading misinformation.

[@jadamarie2205]

You been able to quit ?

[@kaywire6099]

@@jadamarie2205 Fortunately yes

[@jadamarie2205]

@@kaywire6099 what worked for you ?if you dont mind me asking

[@a661992]

“Cannabis doesn’t work as a medicine” 2 years later and 35 states with MMJ

[@BobbyBundlez]

ya def not cuz its a money grab or anything

[@danram0617]

@@BobbyBundlez not a money grab I benefit medically from it In Florida. ✌🏼

[@manicjupiterflute]

Well, when you are a politician and you've literally moved all jobs either overseas or non-existent anymore, the only way the government can get money from people is if they legalize drugs. Actually, legalization of drugs in America represents the downfall of American family values and it represents the collapsing of society and the economy as a whole. And isn't it just so convenient that drugs are being legalized while everyone has depression or some sort of mental disorder? Because we are all going to need something to get us high in these times.

[@danram0617]

@@manicjupiterflute I need weed as a medication for chemotherapy so I hope it’s at least legal in the medical field

[@danram0617]

@@manicjupiterflute and we have been trying to make weed legal for the longest time it’s not just now.

[@BluBlu111]

I'm 45 and smoked since 19 pretty hardcore...now I have social anxiety and depression and panic disorder and I still use it and I'm getting worse...hope that helps out the youngsters.

[@BluBlu111]

@matt yeah I tried quitting for about 28 days then I ripped on The vape pen for about 3 days and now I'm back on day three of nothing and my anger and irritability has caused my bad attitude to get kicked out of a couple stores. I'm scared of my fits of rage because it makes me unpredictable. Stay away from pot kids don't ever start because now I think I am permanently brain damaged.

[@BluBlu111]

@matt thanks man likewise

[@tyberious3023]

@@BluBlu111 Tf are you smoking lmao

[@BluBlu111]

@@tyberious3023 live resin cartridges vape pen 🤣

[@tyberious3023]

@@BluBlu111 Be careful where you get that stuff man make sure its real, I've been smoking weed bout 6 years and it hasn't effected me really at all. It's pretty much a basic alternative to alcohol in my eyes

[@sunny-sq6ci]

i think potheads will always try to rationalize away using. same goes for alcoholics. i used to smoke for over 10yrs and i know it made my depression worse.

[@schuylerlake5744]

damn, maybe thats you and many others, not necessarily the majority, but maybe youre entirely right. it also could have been marijuana was acting as a medication for your depression. you were gone from your depression for so long and coming back to it made it seem worse. i dont know, just speculating.

[@treyglodis536]

sun cho yeah it’s funny how they say nothing is wrong with weed, ever at all. Ever.

[@dawg2-c3f]

@@schuylerlake5744Lake people's lives are more complex than watches, who knows we don't know any variables in his life, but there is one consistency I have seen in dogmatic statements like cho's; the rationalization tends to be black and white not grays.

[@AriesKittyKat85]

Bullshit

[@pjindy2427]

sun cho or some people can use marijuana responsibly and in moderation with literally no negative effects on their lives. I don’t understand why some people are hell bent on telling other people how wrong it is to take a couple hits after work to relax or sleep better. Everyone is different and it’s frustrating when people act like their personal experiences are everyone else’s experiences. If it doesn’t work for you don’t use it. Simple as that.

[@will8953]

Social media is the reason why these young people are so depressed, trying to live up to the ways of this materialistic world

[@shantahsieh432]

Nice movie. However, it is worth reaching for oils from Weedborn.

[@CodyWojcik123]

Always had anger issues even when i was little. Broke my hand on a chair when i was like 10. Started smoking weed at like 16. Anger issues have been a thing of the past for me. Not to mention being a natural insomniac my whole life. Without weed i wouldnt be a very pleasent human

[@vcdc5400]

I wouldn't advise it in Teens.

[@Spartan-Of-Truth]

Same! Cannabis lowers my inflammation major for a 31 year old trainer who has autoimmune disorder.

[@alhfgsp]

​@@vcdc5400 Agreed. The brain should be fully developed or close to it before intoxicants can safely be casually indulged in.

[@th0mathy]

Totally has nothing to do with growing up and developing your brain lmao

[@lemonkid2543]

@@Spartan-Of-Truththis might be dumb but if you use weed for Inflammation does it numb the pain or actually get rid of the inflammation

[@draculawolfman1502]

Anectodatally: Cannabis has saved my life.

[@mauriciobarriga6049]

Dracula Wolfman, Anecdotally, I know of three people, whose lives have been ruined by cannabis.

[@draculawolfman1502]

I'm sorry to hear that. If it was really the effects of the plant and not some underlying issue or legal issues that's not something I hear often among the many people I know who partake. I can only really speak for myself and not anecdotes of others.

[@jontimmy3075]

Come back in 2, 5 years time or more and lets see how it all works out. Cannabis works short term not long take my word for it, it'll exacerbate issues in the long-that's my personal experience with it.

[@mitchell4379]

Jon Lg a lot of it just deals on who takes it, how often, and what terpenes and flavonoids are in the strains. It really depends on the person. Personally it’s been very helpful, but we’re all different and cannabis effects us all differently so we can’t really speak for anyone else except for ourselves

[@draculawolfman1502]

@@mitchell4379 Totally. So much of what's thought of when it comes to cannabis is equivalent to only thinking about drinking as college students doing keg stands and beer bongs. Bongs and smoking blunt after blunt, doing dabs all day every day, isn't a great idea. It's fine if a person wants to do that, but it's likely to have some severe consequences before long. Same as if you binge drink all the time. Cannabis used as utility doesn't look anything like that, in my experience. It's not about getting utterly blazed af. Pizza is fucking great, but if you eat that shit all day, every day it's going to kill you sooner than later. Same with cannabis.

[@markjones2349]

Weed has worked wonders for my anxiety, depression, and job burnout and I sleep like an angel. I'm in a great mood everyday now because of using lightly the night before.

[@bear5945]

That's the thing you feel more rested and energized the next day, as long as you don't go too crazy

[@MK12FILMS]

Hell yeah man I’m glad to read this

[@Drazerblade]

'My wife's a doctor'. Nice try Ben shapiro!

[@rh81454]

Lol

[@alexkanehbosm4082]

Psychologists are NOT doctors

[@Preacher_.]

😂😂😂Aww fuck im dyin'!!

[@stephaniemcafee3604]

His wife is a psychiatrist, which is a doctor..

[@calebledbetter3224]

We praying for you pavel

[@amibel2454]

Been suffering with weed addiction since I was 18/19 23 now and looking back weed increased my depression and anxiety long run because it made me less productive and clouded my decision making, I missed out on a lot of opportunities to smoke weed instead and that’s the sad reality. Weed addiction can not only decrease ur life success but also increase ur mental illness. I’ve experienced it first hand.

[@jurachi1180]

Addiction is never good. If you feel like you can’t go without it it’s not good. You have to have self discipline.

[@ilovehotmoms5804]

I feel like that’s less weed and more you had an addiction and it’s easy to blame weed, but in reality that was you making those decisions, regardless of smoking weed or not.

[@lukester2903]

Anxiety and depression isn't a mental illness it's what happens when youre lazy and don't fucking do anything

[@gregberry7647]

Good for you. Do you take any medications ? My self, I've had the opposite experience. I've been using it daily for the last 30 years, 65 yo now. I think it has helped me immensely. But we all different. Maybe I have a mental illness that cannabis helps. Maybe I'm an addict and I prefere cannabis as my choice.

[@emtfirebb]

I'm a retired Soldier with PTSD, Anxiety and high blood pressure. I started using cannabis at night right before bed like a medicine. I use enough to get relaxed and go to sleep. I am like a new person. I have energy during the day. I slept really well the night before. My blood pressure is back to normal without any meds. It's my opinion that DOCTORS enjoy pushing too many pharmaceutical medicines down the throats of people. Almost all of my friends that are Soldiers with PTSD issues that were prescribed psych drugs have went down the rabbit hole. Some are heavy drug users on the street, homeless. A few are in prison, These are the people that Doctors are "helping". I call complete bullshit on these Doctors. I am a medic, I have worked with "doctors" all my life. 90 % of their research is just copy and paste. 🙄

[@theintrospectre208]

Video stimulation affects the brain in similar ways as drugs and the amount of video stimulation has ramped up exponentially. Internet is also driving people insane.

[@bubblerings]

We are all on Screens all the time, and big TVs are really big and Cheap, now.

[@timschaefer8857]

Im autistic and it does benifit me. Just my EXP.

[@markbellas6250]

Learning in 2008 that I can work hard my whole life, make all of the right moves, and still have everything taken away from me was pretty eye opening

[@gianfrancofronzi8368]

I have been doing Cannabis for 50 years, and I have witnessed all of its effects on me and other people. There are people that just can't handle cannabis , they simply can't handle the stone. So cannabis is not for everyone. But to me it has an effect that is life changing and I believe that cannabis has had a hand in human evolution. Instead of looking for reasons to promote your own view of something that you know nothing about. Let me describe a personal view that cannabis gives me. When I don't have a complete view of any parts of life. I am human and I believe all people are the same. We , when we have our ability to be thoughtful, we end up banging on the same door, over and over we can't see any other way but that one door, and that door doesn't have the answers For me a couple of puffs of my pipe and suddenly, there are many doors. Doors with answers all types of views through many doors. Taking me away from that one door that I just can't stop knocking on. Which would you say a benefit like that is worth? Priceless Now like I have said it's not for anyone, but for me it is a guide and a relief. You can't just stop us people that are getting a very beneficial reaction from cannabis ? Be real. Your agenda is your agenda, don't believe that it's not something that could just be ignored .

[@gregberry7647]

Man, you are me. Priceless, life saving, gold.

[@pancakelover151]

This guy is actually bringing some legit truth, weed if abused can have severe negative impact on peoples lives. Too bad most of JR audience are stubborn potheads that won't take any criticism to their "medicine". Coming from a former chronic user that faced the darkside of this drug

[@mike4real935]

Yep i agree they dont realise that for some people it can really be a negative thing i smoked for over 10 years and towards the last few years my mental state got worse and worse its definately not for everyone but that being said i know people who have smoked for the same period of time as i did with no negative side effects it all depends on the individual

[@billythekidder7182]

Well you automatically lose credibility in any argument when you state your opinion with such condescending tone to the people you are talking to/about. Maybe you’re just too weak for their “medicine”. It’s not for everyone.

[@pancakelover151]

@@billythekidder7182 lol right you are so strong managing your medicine that you feel the need to discredit others that are struggling/sharing their bad experience with it. Such a Chad alpha male here 😂 Look i think some people can manage it but from my experience most really can't and are in serious denial about the downside on their life from it

[@nicos.2414]

weed is not for you if you have week self esteem. Because of the paranoia you get after smoking. If you already have trouble talking to people its gonna be a lot more difficult when youre high af

[@potatorekt7046]

@@pancakelover151 Well they are mostly reckless idiots who would excessively abuse everything that they can get their hands on, if you made water like weed, they’d drown themselves and blame water.

[@strainsofthebay407]

And i'm just here as a "weedtuber" watching this debate as I hit my vape lol

[@landonic81]

Vape is terrible dude.

[@Paulyprod]

Nick how? dry herb is better, safer, gets u higher, and saves bud

[@thanosdarkseid8695]

@@Paulyprod vaping is actually bad idiot research fuck face sheep!

[@strainsofthebay407]

@MrRoleModel I'm assuming they think i'm vaping concentrate.. Love vaping my bud! Although the occasional bong rip is also welcomed haha

[@HiimFieldy]

I'm smoking a doobie as we speak

[@717studioww]

From my own subjective experience, I lived a generally happy life until I started smoking weed. I had a love/hate relationship with it. I loved the physical feeling of it as well as the psychological feeling of escaping reality and just feeling different than normal. But I also developed a lot of depression, anxiety and eventually suicidal thoughts, all of which I had never really experienced before marijuana. On top of that, after about a year I started having a lot of delusional and psychotic thoughts and had really bad weed dissociation. I’ve never been in such a low place. Thankfully I was able to beat the addiction and am now much happier but I think people should be more educated on the very real potential negative side effects of this drug. I’m not saying it’s like that for everyone because I know many people who really benefit from it but for me it was the worst experience of my life. All I’m saying is that weed is NOT for everyone.

[@haroldi.6450]

Yes exactly my experience too! Cant blame the weed doe I have parts pf my life i have to work on weed helped me see that

[@angusgallagher6130]

@@Qwuiet how long have you been smoking for now?

[@Qwuiet]

@@angusgallagher6130 I am sober now lol. I realize it makes me even more nervous when stressful events happen to me, even though it does make having fun more fun. I am not good at explaining it. I guess it intensifies all emotions. I learned to appreciate the calmness when sober. I Live and learn. Everybody is diffferent.

[@chad8813]

I was the same bro apart from I didn't get delusional or psychotic. Just very lazy, negative, depressed, self loathing, zero confidence, no motivation or anything of the sort. However not a single one of my friends experienced this. I don't think weed itself is bad but some people shouldn't use it regularly

[@717studioww]

@@haroldi.6450 i agree with to an extent. It definitely made me realize things that needed to change and maybe my mind wasn’t as strong as some people’s, but I also think that not everyone’s brain chemistry is the same and that can play a huge part

[@sauceboss3901]

I don’t hate him but the anti weed dudes main point is old, improper studies.

[@nick3006]

There is a lot of truth in it I watched this vid a month ago and though he was a dumbass until it hit me

[@joeblough4605]

I must say that these two guys are great and very respectful debators. It's such a rare skill these days. They both are deserving of respect and a good listen. Thanks.

[@6GEARPINNED]

im gay and i smoked pots now i am not gay anymores god bless

[@fmone7878]

😂😂

[@Mandoingwell]

Great stuff! Love listing to different perspectives when everyone is respectful

[@cynthiamayes8631]

Started smoking at 26. Now at 70, I still smoke daily. No problems. Better mental health than most.

[@Magaville]

Alcohol raises blood pressure

[@johnmertens3907]

Google

[@souradeepbhattacharya5503]

Last 10min was brilliant, that anti-weed guy got grilled from all sides with data and intelligent arguments! Well done Joe, we get to hear from both side and we can decide for ourselves. I'm trying to have this kinda conversations in my country India, i do inhale small amount to weed per week and it helped me a lot with my mental health and helped me creatively with my job.

[@kingtubbatele1352]

What are the laws around weed like in your country

[@souradeepbhattacharya5503]

@@kingtubbatele1352 There are productions of weed, many of the states banned it after stupid US "War on Drugs" move but there are hundreds of people doing rallies and having social media campaigns to legalize weed and put taxes on it, like me. The moderate and open minded states will surely legalize it but the don't know about North India because they're kinda cut off the world and have strict so called "VALUES".

[@givenchymamajama3859]

Keep fighting 🤟

[@souradeepbhattacharya5503]

@@givenchymamajama3859Thank you.

[@givenchymamajama3859]

@@souradeepbhattacharya5503 you should document those rallies and events that go on in your country and post on KZbin that’d be cool. Could make some good content!

[@magpiemoreno6304]

Before I started dialysis, I researched marijuana and the patients who would use it for the side affects of dialysis. I was in law enforcement, so I was skeptical about the medical use. I’ve used marijuana since and still after a kidney transplant. It has helped throughout the process and still currently. Some of the anti-rejection medicine causes nausea, which vanishes when I use Marijuana, and it promotes my appetite soon after. I was 160lbs on dialysis, and now a healthy 200lbs.

[@mcozy333]

cannabis supports the persons endocannabinoid system in such a way , it seems magical, miraculous etc ... the actives in the plant that are medical for us are non selective lipid metabolites ... Selectivity is KEY as to how effective they are at supporting how our cells function, not forcing our cells into selective types of metabolism etc.... if you look at most things that are for pain etc... they are COX blockers ... cannabis' phytocannabinoids support COX/ LOX function and do not harm the liver, kidneys etc ... phytocanabinoids too instantly bind to bile acids when ingested that then help us to metabolize things ... like activating the enzymes in cells that start the process of bio-degrading lipids into biochemicals . just mentioning this as you post made me think of a few things I've learned about the plant ... smoking it too destroys most of the medical application acquired via other non smoke methods ... for quick relief like smoking can proved a clean air path dry herb vaporizer can be used with a heat range of around 350F up to 440 F ... no smoke toxins that way and actually delivers more acidic type phytocananbinoids ( THC-a/ CBD-a ) that are another level of medical benefit ... eating it raw is too another level altogether . Cannabinoid science / endocannabinoid system / lipid signaling / phytocannabinoids/ endocananbinoids . ECS is the largest physiological system in our bodies not taught in med school ... we have a long way to go

[@EBEASTmOd]

Weed like anything else I feel is okay in moderation. I love to smoke but I do feel the effects of being lethargic and sometimes anxiety. I can understand where people think you shouldn’t smoke but that can be the other way around. Plenty of people have problems with smoking, drinking, gambling, even eating.

[@jbainbridge22]

Alex Bernson is clearly not all there on one hand he says "We need to do proper medical studies" and then quotes studies done unprofessionally as if it's solid facts and dismisses and solid studies brought up by A FREAKING DOCTOR . Alex wants to be negative just to create buzz for his stupid book which is clearly biased AF. He keeps only telling the negative side. His views are very terrible and his fact checking and omitting of facts is offensive.

[@Dennis0is0Mr1Swag]

Thank you! From what I got out of this, both Joe and Doc want to discuss the middle ground of the benefits and discuss the negatives. Alex threw out a random 10 to 20 thousand death number in the beginning of the podcast. And denies that cbd/marijuana can't be medicine bc the FDC says its not. Then Alex states it needs more testing for things he doesn't accept. But brings up loose correlation to things that support his viewpoints

[@jbainbridge22]

@@Dennis0is0Mr1Swag I am so confused by his nonsense and he keeps bringing up his wife like fuck let her write it then lol.

[@Dennis0is0Mr1Swag]

@@jbainbridge22 Yeah, I may have read into it a bit much. I only got an hour into the full podcast but shortly after the 2nd/3rd time Alex brought up his wife, Doc brought up how social media makes people compare people to one another. I read that as a potential in-between the lines of "Dude you keep bringing up your medical professional of a wife to back up your statements against me, a doctor. Chill man my education does not invalidate your talking points. My experience as a well read person who works with patients taking proper dosages does". Its probably a stretch but if you re watch it there was a in between "who's more credible" pissing match that happened before that.

[@jbainbridge22]

@@Dennis0is0Mr1Swag Alex seems like someone who just wants to rile people up to sell his crappy book :P

[@Dennis0is0Mr1Swag]

@@jbainbridge22 Yeah, I appreciate that the Doc read the book and research/contacted the sources before hand to test legitimacy before the podcast. All Alex could rebuttal was only one of the 16 members came forward on social media, why not the others? As if their silence invalidates the one and validates his stance.

[@lorr7524]

Since 2008 there has been an epidemic of Doctors prescribing horrible meds for pain and depression that leads to serious mental health- not eeed

[@EvanAndHell]

“My wife’s a forensic psychiatrist” literally working for pharmaceutical companies within the criminal justice system. Of course he’s against weed.

[@Burnt_clutch89]

And literally as much a doctor as a chiropractor

[@aryashatraw2821]

That doesn't imply any "of course" he's this or that. Intelligent people who work within any system advocate for changes all the time. He has nothing to gain or lose by being for or against cannabis. Moreover, a forensic psychiatrist isn't employed by a pharmaceutical company and the criminal justice system does operate businesses let alone any pharmaceutical ones. You don't sound intelligent with your crazy conspiracy talk. You just sound like an internet clown.

[@Somebodysomewheresometime]

I’ve been smoking like 30 years. Ive only quit for pregnancy or breastfeeding. Im 46 now. My mother had schizophrenia and I could see me getting into some weird psychosis in the last part of my usage as well as upset stomach after I smoked. The amount of money wasted, brain cells burned up, opportunities not taken, tar in my lungs, laziness, depression.. it’s a vicious cycle. I know it has messed up my chemical and mental balance.. and for what exactly?

[@marinagaray9219]

I dont think its just weed though, I think that an illness like schizophrenia is very easily unmasked by mind altering recreational drugs/legal psychotropic medicine

[@RMT192]

For some people, and we don't know why, marijuana causes severe and lasting anxiety and psychotic issues. People have to be very careful and start extremely low and pull the ripchord before it's too late

[@rokanza2293]

The problem is when you start being dependant on marijuana whilst having anxiety for example,and you are not sure is it because of marijuana AKA should you stop using it or is it just 'there' naturally so if you smoke a little bit it won't do you any damage...But generally I would recommend not to touch it if they are going through any psychic problems,not to mention more serious stuff such as depression,anxiety or even worse,schizophrenia.

[@jotahsbopas8569]

Trust me I know you mean after smoking for so long I do get anxiety from time to time and trust me it gets annoying but you have to find ways to cope with it and improve on it each day by going to therapy working out eating healthy pretty much having a good health that can help with it .

[@TheHypoparody]

Alcohol absolutely has a negative impact upon our lungs. It ends up in our lungs, which is why we give breathalyzers to measure BAC. It’s apparent that this guy seems to be going out of his way to down play the negative effects of alcohol while also down playing the positive effects of marijuana. Marijuana can alleviate depression, anxiety, increase appetite amongst cancer patients, treat epilepsy, decrease physical pain, has cancer fighting properties, is an anti inflammatory, can greatly help sleep disorders, and then there’s the potential effects of what it can do to consciousness and personality. It can have a significant positive effect upon personality disorders, which are otherwise extremely difficult to treat. The ability to allow a narcissist to have deep selfless moments can be more transfiguring than any psychotropic. But nah, marijuana has no medicinal benefits. Now, Xanax! There’s a good drug!

[@SpaceKittyPrincess]

Couldn't have said it better myself!!

[@JosephWheeler14]

It's a miracle for my ADHD. I've never had mental clarity and peace like I do when I smoke. The mental health benefits of cannabis are completely undervalued.

[@realcane9908]

what about the people without mental illnesses that turn into burn-outs after a couple of years with the sticky-icky?

[@Bond58]

Preach brother, preach

[@JosephWheeler14]

@@realcane9908 they can just as easily do so on alcohol or an easily prescribed opiate

[@VictorS93]

In my experience (from 13 - 24) 95% of my long term stoner friends eventually quit because of paranoia and mental issues (I'm now 30), I don't care what studies show and what pharmaceutical giants say to make a buck, weed ruins your life long term.

[@alexutzcel]

ah, the old "my wife's a doctor" card! Joe should have a show with all these guys, it would be hilarious!

[@TerryNails]

What's funny is that my wife actually is a doctor and it does actually work very well. My mother who is 96 years old broke her back about 15 years ago and has had back problems that they tried to treat with opiates and the only thing that has taken away her pain completely is CBD..👈

[@BourbonnaisParkour]

Joe was really calm and patient with his question dodging.

[@ycazawilliams2535]

I graduated high school last year and when I was there most people I knew that excessively smoked weed or drank did it because of something lacking in their life such as a trauma or family issues. I rarely think that directly the consumption of those things was the cause. Only case that this can happen is overuse or abuse of it.

[@Bane92]

Been smoking weed for 10 years. I can answer all your questions. P.S. I’m 50/50 on being for/against it.

[@SnowWhite-dr6xh]

Well I made up my mind years ago - pot is best used not when used yet. But first see a pot doctor.

[@X3nophiliac]

why do you use weed? medical or recreational?

[@karljonson3287]

Why are you 50/50? Did you have any problems?

If you don't like pot then don't smoke it but there is absolutely no reason that using pot should be illegal. It is the prohibition and legal sanctions that have destroyed literally millions of lives and forces descent everyday people into a life of second class citizenship. Nobody has ever died because of being under the influence of pot. Even driving, studies have shown pot makes you slow down and be more careful and nobody in history has gotten stoned and beaten his wife. I have smoked pot and been around people who smoke pot for decades and I know from experience, vast experience, that the arguments used to outlaw pot are just plain bullshit.

[@druberry6570]

Only 4 years and I’m 50/50 also, used to try to take big bong rips to impress friends, yeah not anymore just be smart and moderate

[@ScriptedJ]

It’s social media that’s causing more depression, it’s not weed🤦🏾 this dude is ridiculous,

[@nathanaeldiprose1605]

Of course you're going to see stats showing a bunch of depressed people have used drugs... If you're feeling that low you will try things to escape the pain. The drug taking is 'mostly' a secondary step and you have to look at the root cause, which is highly likely these days to involve social media, especially in the young.

[@Obem2115]

I drank edibles drink an hour ago. Made some food, ate and went to youtube. I wrote "joe rogan weed" and started watching this episode. I now got high watching two people talk about is weed a medicine or not.

[@UNCLESAM..GANC..]

Does this guy not realize that pot is legal in Canada for recreational use...

[@krismyles5007]

Used to love to smoke but now im like a 2 puffs a day guy. Seems to give me anxiety when i smoke alot.

[@KittyStrikesBack]

Kris Myles you’re probably smoking sativa then

[@Bane92]

Same bro. After smoking for 10 yrs it’s just not the same. Sometimes I don’t even smoke for weeks.

[@jess_1853]

After smoking for years it's like it turned on me. I can't smoke much anymore.

[@osufan77]

Everyone's physiology is different and changes throughout your life. Some people develop allergies as kids and others not until they're in their 50's sometimes. I've smoked every single day since the middle of 1998 and it does nothing but help me chill out, enjoy jazz, nature, a night out. It's been a boon for me. But I know I'm not everyone. That's why education, and yeah, a little experimentation, will determine whether or not it's for someone or not.

[@duckydarkstar38]

Baby lungs and weak minds

[@lotsoflee]

Joe was getting pissed until he found out the number was only 4

[@TotalOneEighty]

Hahahhahaha yes

[@super_sketchy_time7993]

I'm a psychopath and let me tell you, cannabis does make me fucking bonkers if I don't have it yes. Buuuttt while using I no longer feel harmful, or criminal or schizophrenic in it all! I have serious mental illness and I have chose to keep my illness a lie up until I was older. Cannabis helps me prioritize my goals because I also have ADHD. It helps me focus as well especially with a hyper active disorder included with psychopathy. Without cannabis I'd still be a criminal incarcerated... It has helped me with cognition and educating myself properly! Like Elon says, we need more love and less hate 🤙

[@mcozy333]

with actual lipid research we have found that metabolizing the lipids/terpenes of the cannabis plant helps to support how cells in our body maintain homeostasis response ... we've even found an entirely unknown physiological system in man while doing lipid research into cannabis plant metabolism ... the endocannabinoid system . the lipids in the plant while being metabolically active in our body creates more cellular plasticity which equates to learning/ adaptation and making of new cells ( neurogenesis)

[@super_sketchy_time7993]

@@mcozy333 may I ask how you know this!? I can hardly find any information on the topic that is not b.s... lol

[@mcozy333]

@@super_sketchy_time7993 Well, I an present my findings, there are so many research articles of endocannabinoid system and its function etc... as to cannabis plant' impact on the system the actives in there ( phytocannabinoids) are non selective lipid metabolites that bio-mimic endocananbinoids . this gets very complex very quickly .. Tetrahydrocannabinol ( THC) bio-mimics N archidonoylethanolamine ( Anandamide/ AEA) ... Cannabidiol ( CBD) bio-mimics 2 arachidonoylglycerol ( 2 AG) .. phytocannabinoids/ endocannabinoids keep in mind that the plant cannabinoids are lipid /terpenes ( C-21 terpenophenolics/ meroterpinoids) which means lipids with terpene back bone. that determines how we metabolize them ... phytocannabinoids as already structured cannabinoids are free flow/ free form cannabinoids ... we make endocannabinoids via cleaving phospholipids from the cell bi-layer that are there from an accumulation of essential fatty acids ( omega three/ omega six) consumed regularly in diets . people who lack those suffer from Severe endocannabinoid deficiencies ... look on store shelves, it is loaded with nothing but omega six which when consumed in such amounts leads to over oxidation in our bodies ./ cells etc... omega three is anti oxidants and reduces inflammation and fixes deficiencies in the cells ... phytocannabinoids take the omega three pathways in the cells and are anti oxidant compounds and help to restore the cellular pathways that are otherwise being deficient in there signaling based on to much omega six/ nine etc.... short and sweet, start eating omega three as much as possible from good sources such as small fish with less mercury in them etc.... you can find it in pl;ant algae too such as chlorella and spirulina but that form is not as digestible as small fish that eat the algae and that then have omega three in them from that digested form.

[@mcozy333]

@@super_sketchy_time7993 youtube deleted my post again with links .. not sure how to direct you to the research here on this sensor board

[@super_sketchy_time7993]

@@mcozy333 sir what is your name, I would like to connect via social media or even through a text message! My name is Keeyinn Castro 👋 My Facebook page has a guy being sucked up into space and my back wallpaper is a weed advertisement 😅

[@bobbycigarillo]

For the record though, 1 in 100,000 is not a small number in America where the population is 330 Million people. Thats roughly 3,500 young girls committing suicide which is a fckn lot of people and shouldn't be overlooked in this debate. Especially since it doubled to 5 per 100,000 that number is increased to 5,000 young girls committed suicide, thats not a small number AT ALL.

[@hartbridges2306]

Bottom line is weed effects everyone differently, can relieve or induce anxiety depending on ones genes, environment, and health. I learned the hard way it’s not for me, but my roommates light up everyday. Nothing wrong with them, they’re GPA is higher and they still have social lives. I’ve made my peace with it and smoke once a month with them if that.

[@slimshady12345ish]

I was a hardcore stoner for many years starting from an early age then all of a sudden one day i had a panic attack from out of nowhere and i have never felt the same! That was the start of my weed psychosis which i learnt about afterwards. I gave it up for a while but go through phases of smoking it everyday few months and not at all for a few. I am now at a point where i will have few drags off each joint passed round with friends where as i use to smoke on my own fattys. I absolutely love getting high best feeling there is and i miss that feeling but i have come to terms with what has happened. I could start smoking again and feel fine for a while but my mood swings and paranoia increases the longer i smoke so have mde that conscious decision to pretty much stop completely for good but will partake in a few pulls when with friends or at the end of the night when the drinking stops. It works for some people but those who have mental illness running through their family or have any sort of mental issues need to be careful and stop it before it could be too late! But i do love you Mary Jane even if you do fuck with my head and love being passed around my homies.

[@Z_Co95]

I’m someone who struggles with panic attacks in general. I’ve noticed when I smoke I can change my thoughts easier which gets rid of the panic. It’s crazy how it affects everyone different

[@matthewbielawski6688]

Learn self control buddy

[@Z_Co95]

Matthew Bielawski when it comes to people who have that addiction trait self control is extremely difficult. Not saying it’s impossible but it’s very difficult.

[@michaelperszon8507]

Alex "So I wanna push back" Berrenson

[@davids8aff]

Michael "Also too" Hart

[@yianhinsaechao7898]

BEST PODCAST ON KZbin...... joe talks about GREAT INFO..... about everything .........

[@idreesk7826]

I didn't watch this full video but I can talk from my own experience. I truly believe there is a domino effect with weed. It makes you lazy and eat like crap.If you are a highly motivated person normally who is consistently busy then weed is not for you. I was a top athlete and put on 20 lbs of fat while gaining intense anxiety/depression until I stopped smoking. Now I feel unstoppable again after stopping. If you are someone who just likes to get their job done and basic tasks/errands then weed should give you a net positive effect.

[@GreetingsWithFire]

To each there own 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Crucial47]

Weed isn't for everyone it should be treated as a medicine

[@malakinolasco3471]

Idk man weed is pretty prominent in body building and other sports so idk that that’s really true

[@aidencashy6727]

Not at all true. Truth is, you’re a lazy piece of shit. Weed amplifies that in you and you can’t stand it. Thanks for spreading misinformation though. People like you keep it from being legalised. You disgust me.

[@idreesk7826]

@@aidencashy6727 lol I make more money than you, did better in sports than you, probably accomplished more than you ever will and I also smoked tons of weed. I can tell you from my experience. maybe cut back on the weed for getting irritated so easily from someone else's opinion.

[@justnicki]

😂😂 the leaflet in my antidepressants lists suicidal thoughts, depression and anxiety as some of the top side effects. Weed sure doesn't work for everybody but it works for me 👌🏼

[@FLUIDITY_O]

I struggled with severe gastroperesis for years… essentially to the point of not being able to eat for days at a time because of my food being regurgitated nearly every time I attempted to eat. Beginning THC improved my condition to the point I went from 6’ 5” 143lbs to 180lbs in just a few months and in the form of mostly healthy muscle weight rather than just fat. To say that it cannot be used as a medicine is just false and not true by any stretch of the imagination. It’s not for everyone sure but for the people that need it it’s essential.

[@kknumber20]

I smoked for about 15 years with no discernible problems from it, then my usage went up during the Covid lockdown because I didn’t have to go to work and the new strains are so psychoactive that I had a psychotic break and ever since then I can’t smoke because it makes me schizophrenic for months after just one smoke. I miss it for the good old days but it’s very dangerous even for people in their thirties.

[@aidencashy6727]

No no no. It doesn’t MAKE you “schizophrenic”. Cannabis has uncovered mental problems you already had. Weed isn’t for everyone, you’re a fine example of that. Don’t blame weed for your head being screwed up.

[@roguedoge2479]

Because people are smoking 27% THC flower w/ anxiety terps with zero experimentation or research. Mixing in CBD mitigates negative long-term effects of cannabis but nobody knows this because nobody reads.

[@MrCrabguy]

I think that weed gives you a sort of ”weed hangover”. Its subtle but if you’ve been sober for a while relative to how you’ve been smoking you can tell that your thinking becomes clearer again. If you only smoke on weekends, and not on sunday, I think its fine.

[@anonymous203020]

I think they’re both right. Weed can exacerbate mental illness and is not good for some people based on their brain chemistry. It can work wonders and significantly improve quality of life for other people

[@persona-wo8bi]

Exactly! And it's harmful to only over emphasize one side of the argument. It only further increases the need to create an extreme counterpart like the role Alex plays here. Which frankly does the whole conversation a diservice because then "pro" enthusiasts become even more defensive.

[@Drek-hm2iv]

I smoke 24/7 ! It helps take the mental pain away or it help me get deeper into my depression or whatever feeling I’m feeling but bottom line it give my life some taste and color and without it my life feels tasteless and bland. I will say I learned to not get the munchies when I’m high so I lost weight which actually contributed to my weight loss goal. Another thing is it helped me become way more patient and respectful to others and I found a really good friend who out smokes me all the time.

[@Digital_PeterGriffin]

I’m gonna be real with you man, smoking 24/7 is only going to make your depression worse, as it triggers the release of dopamine and other neurochemicals and the more often you do it the lower your levels are and the shittier you feel. This is true with any substance that makes you feel good. It happened with me

[@d3csy]

personally i’d say it’s a better idea to cut down a lilll but tahts upto u bro it’s ur life. but personally i find when i smoke all the time everyday i get more depressed i try to only smoke socially or if i’m unable to sleep or an extra stressed

[@vFerno]

Weed 24 7 is horrible smoking everyday is destroying ur dopamine cells

[@xxlixaraa]

Treat it as a help to motivate you to do other things that get you dopamine, then you can decrease as you need to decrease dependency.

[@simonzhang3D]

I didnt help ypu shit, it just lets you escape and forget about your problems instead of beeing sober and actually facing them like a healthy adult should do. Your problems will come back and they back even stronger the longer you run away from them, i promise you that. Ye you can smoke endlessly to never facing the problems but that makes you a slave to that plant .... and it that rly the way you want to live?

[@thecosmicdoorway]

There’s a case study that says cannabis is beneficial to those who’ve suffered from Encephalitis.

[@moazadi8973]

I’ve been lab ratting myself with high THC for the last year and a half, and I can say that I no longer take my ADHD amphetamine medication, or my anxiety/depression pills. I found out with Microdosing mushrooms, or just having a larger dose once in a while, gets me out of my negative loop, and the cannabis really gets me going energy wise - I was vaping with carts for the last seven months, so I was able to really trained myself with high THC. I found that, the cannabinoid CBC was really able to help me tone down and focus the THC better. I’m as happy as a clam.😎 works for me!

[@tannerpost9154]

As a fellow ADHDer, this is almost on par with what I use weed for.

[@davidgarvin7823]

This guy clearly fell victim to confirmation bias. He misinterpreted the results and only published info that fit his bias. As cannabis psychosis, is say yes it can happen but drawing a correlation between the cannabis use against someone's state of mind continuing to naturally deteriorate would be hard to confirm. He says something about people who use marijuana are 3 times more likely to be depressed and twice as likely to commit suicide. Again, to say cannabis is the cause is reckless because people may have already been depressed and suicidal and so they started using cannabis. It's entirely plausible that their state of mind naturally deteriorated over time. The cannabis may have helped or prolonged the suicide even but to correlate the two without a proper double blind study is irresponsible. Correlation does not equal causation.

[@GearGasms]

I agree with you 1000%

[@ljs185]

but just because it cant be proved with the studies done right now doesnt mean it cant be true. So he hypothesises there may be a link, he is allowed this position

[@QuestionYourWorld]

@@ljs185 he is allowed to hold the position but his case tries to assert his position as fact or the only truth. That's where he fails.

[@NigelThornbery]

David Garvin maybe you have fallen for confirmation bias over the last 20 years of pro marijuana, cherry picked studies.

[@carolsmith5689]

@@NigelThornbery nah

[@chrisdiaz6154]

Don’t forget you can get depersonalization or derealization from weed you don’t need to be predisposed to scizo to get it

[@zacbrady6215]

Chris Diaz I think a lot of these problems are to do with the potency of thc nowadays , if cbd was raised and the lowered I think a lot of the mental effects would go away

[@loridrblake9770]

That's the fun part. But then it wears off. Which is cool bcz you can self medicate, prn, ie as needed

[@thebadhack1049]

This was a great discussion. Good points on both sides. I think cannabis use can worsen underlying mental health issues the same way any psychoactive drug can.

[@nicholasicetrain1382]

Bipolar disorder plus weed makes someone go into psychosis. First hand experiences from multiple people.

[@kerryeddie995]

As someone in NZ who has now been medically treated with CBD for 12 months to treat PTSD, anxiety and depression it has stopped my suicidal episodes and has helped me regulate my somatic pain disorder. It has personally changed my life. Many of my other pharma medications do have negative effects, so the argument that a medicine can't be called one when it has negative effects on the patient is completely false. They are called side effects and they are listed on every single pill bottle you are prescribed. He may be researching the wider facts but he is ignoring the building blocks of this issue. It is medicine.

[@brandonanthonyk]

My sister is type 1 bipolar. She smoked a bit of weed this morning after not having smoked it for months and had a complete psychotic breakdown/episode. She was hallucinating and hearing things and after 4-5 hours, she didn't remember anything that had happened. It was the scariest and weirdest thing I've ever seen and I've never seen her behave that way in my life. I didnt even know marijuana could do that. I quit smoking it about 2 years ago, (smoked since I was 13, am now 25) just because I wanted to live a sober lifestyle. I am pro legalization. But the research needs to be done on the connection/effect with cannibis on mentally ill people and/or if it causes mental illness. Because after this morning, I certainly believe that if you are mentally ill in any way, I would not chance smoking weed. The things my sister were saying were completely bizarre. It was the scariest/weirdest expierience I've had in my entire life. She was so sad and confused when I was telling her that none of what she was seeing/hearing was real. And her eyes, oh my god! It's like I could see into her soul. I can't describe it. I was asking her if she took anything else and if I could see the weed and she was being completely honest and somewhat robotic in everything I was asking her. (If she's using drugs, she always lies about it, even though I can tell if she's high) That was another strange thing about this. All of this was completely surreal for me. I told her I would talk with her tomorrow, because she called me after I dropped her off back home (after she started being normal again), and she completely was clueless as to what happened and that she thinks she blacked out and didnt know why or what happened? It's a sad thing. And something I didn't even know that was possible from smoking weed. I am at a loss with what to do about this.

[@Stoicsaiyan]

@gametimedivine does it matter ? You can get pure weed from anywhere….. you can get it from your homie or plug ect and still get full spectrum REAL HIGH. I support weed legalization but sometimes these pro legalization people are Kinda stupid, when there’s a study that shows the negative sides of weed there always making bullshit excuses saying “they didn’t study it right” or “look at big pharma spreading lies” when the very own researchers of most of those study support weed legalization.

[@hdz6894]

I take weed for depression, bipolar. I’m fine My parents found out, quit weed, takes SSRI for over a year, tried at least 4 kinds, one even costs $1000 a month. And guess what? All the SSRI made me gain over 70 pounds, swollen feet, blur vision(like I can’t see for over 30 mins every morning) one made me sleep 23 hrs a day. Yes sure, listen to the “doctor” who’s seen me for 3 days and force me to quit weed. Edit: swollen feet like I had to take my shoe laces off

[@hoochie1839]

i have bipolar too and use it for the same, but marijuana can actually cause manic episodes in some patients and it can be pretty risky. i’m not trying to fight your point at all i’m sorry if it came off mean i just wanna lyk.

[@hdz6894]

@@hoochie1839 you know what, I think you’re very right lmao. Some weed fucks my brain up, put me into a maniac episode but it’s manageable. So idk, I agree with you but the same time some weed just let’s me relax and calm down for the day, like a beer for ppl but I don’t like alcohol.

[@hoochie1839]

@@hdz6894 I have completely the same experience. i have to stick to cbd mixed indicas a lot to remain calm these days.

[@Buonocore49]

Im smoking gross resin while watching this

[@fabfarm3729]

Deepintothemurkywatersoftheunderworld hahah wish I had resin left ya smoke🤙

[@davidenko2468]

woooooow bet you are high as fuck

[@sillybastard79]

Been there. Sympathies and the guarantee of future green bounty

[@SuperAussieOi]

That’s called addiction my friend, dw I’ve been there but fuck smoking that awful tasting shit lol

[@chill2025]

wooooooooooooooo! far from stylin and profilin'!

[@tomwaitsfornoone1182]

being pro weed, but against any derogatory narrative you're not helping anyone.

[@salvadorreyes1337]

I personally know two people who have schizophrenia due to cannabis. One happens to be my sister. They offered her to smoke for her first time in high school and it ruined her life. They did extensive blood tests, urine tests, etc, they only founf THC present. At the time nobody wanted to say it was the THC, i think because we live in an area that heavily uses pot in California. Now im happy theyre coming out with more studies.

[@jacobeestrickland8235]

I wish joe would have asked if Alex would rather: Have his son on Xanax, Zoloft, or Weed.

[@Dennis0is0Mr1Swag]

Alex 'weed increase schizophrenia' Doc 'actually there's no correlation as the number is the same' Alex 'well actually we don't know bc of the amount of undiagnosed people' Okay but wouldn't the known amount increase somewhat if there is a correlation?? Also if you knew it was unknown Alex why make that case that marijuana affects it negatively?

[@DennisMoore664]

Alex failed miserably in this "debate". He was coming from a point of trying to prove his agenda that not only is there no medical use for marijuana but that using it will do more harm than good. No substance should be used by everyone, but marijuana is one of the least dangerous substances to use in it's natural form - concentrating it may cause more problems for more people as the dosage of THC increases, but that's true of most things. Just don't be stupid. I'll go with my personal experience and the thousands of years of use of this plant as part of our natural pharmacopoeia.

[@MFDOOM4635]

Amarant Coral so guessing you’ve also got an agenda against weed

[@tuck6464]

@Amarant Coral Don't know how to tell you this,but you can bet your ass your stuttering/ attention span challenged bro doctor is a habitual user/ would be reformed addict. Would you send your family to this physian ?

[@jd8600crti]

Tuck 646 I don’t know how to tell you this but you have the punctuation and grammar skills of a troglodyte. Also, it’s “stuttering” not “studdering”.

[@tuck6464]

@@jd8600crti My best guess is the shit you're smoking,has you hallucinating.

[@firedude750]

I'm a 22 year old male, and after suffering from serious acne for the past 2 years, I have come to a conclusion that weed was a serious factor in my cystic acne. After quitting weed, my acne slowly reduced and I no longer get cystic acne. My theory is that weed throws my hormones out of wack, perhaps increasing my testosterone, as I can see my hair thinning as well. I use to smoke a joint every night. Now after quitting for 4 weeks, drinking plenty of water, and cutting dairy out my diet, my acne is going away. Hopefully this helps someone

[@mr.orangeaide5260]

fair. like ive cut down on a lot of weed but yeah i'd bet a hundred that drinking water is what helped the acne. dehydration causes like 8- percent of peoples problems

[@Viktor007]

Have you tried vaping ?

[@firedude750]

@@Viktor007 I use to smoke cigarettes in highschool, but I have never vaped

[@ThanasisVydouras]

it actually decreases testosterone dramatically

[@tudiecampagna5793]

I'm sorry to disagree, but, smoking pot makes me happy! It never depresses me! And it does help the pain amazingly!

[@AR-gu2no]

Social media is what’s causing mental problems

[@jimmyroberts4857]

thee are other reasons as well though

[@blackphillip2264]

I been smoking since I was 15. I do wish I waited until I was 25, however, I can’t say I’m schizo and I can’t say it doesn’t help mental issues I deal with from childhood trauma.

[@austinholmes9952]

helps mine everyone is different

[@subliminalcriminal777]

IV smoked since 15 too sn smoked as much as I could get hold of by the time I was 16 was smoking about a ounce a week . It's all situational if you have bad things going on you'll be depressed if your happy go lucky you'll be fine ,an think no one is ever happy 24/7 being sad or depressed is natural an up to the individual to find the own way out .some people freak out but that's bout it ,you just remind those characters no one has ever died from pot .stop it

[@dilciaenid57]

Same thing I was just thinking. I started at 15 as well and now wish I could have waited until my brain was grown lol we did t know shit about shit then!

[@EwokFX]

I'm a big cannabis advocate, smoked for 4years daily, after 2years I started getting mad anxiety. Only thing that helped was smoking BUT the day I quit (4months ago) it took me just a week to completely lose my anxiety. The only way I can explain this is that smoking (even when you're not high anymore) narrows your mind and thoughts, u think more 'simple' (not always sometimes it widens your mind) but when you smoke you'll be able to predict things less good making you uncomfortable about situations causing anxiety. So yeah smoke moderately and you'll probably be fine. (just my perspective on it, it's most definitely very different for anyone no one responds to drugs the same way).

[@yootoob1001001]

Good point on that not everyone is going to have the same experience, as well is an individual person can have different experiences from time to time too.

[@EwokFX]

@@yootoob1001001 amazing you commented on this cause I forgot ever posting this, might be interesting but 3 years later I'm back to smoking daily for around 2 years without any anxiety. Weed is an amazing drug when used correctly but can f with your mind when used incorrectly/ at a (to) young age

[@aliciacostanza2834]

Cannabis has less side effects than prescription. Meds so this guy is dead wrong.

[@toreeadams9873]

All things in moderation people. Usually the best general rule to follow in every facet of life

[@imkolip0ki387]

Weed keeps me focused on my goals. I smoke and then workout, stretch, prepare and eat nutritious foods. Some times i just dance for an hour or two.

[@OhZookla]

The amount of time that dude in the blue shirt said “you know” actually hurt me

[@ZaZa-kp9gt]

This guys is not for real. He did misquote it as all studies point to adolescent cannabis use as causing mental issues like depression. Dr Hart is 100% correct. This guy has cherry picked information to make his point not a fair representation of the facts.