Why We Are Leaving Spotify | The Joe Budden Podcast

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[@KerryannePatricia]

Dave Chappelle turned down 50 million Becuase integrity meant more to him than the money. Today he Is one of the Highest paid comedians. Hold on to your integrity guys, it will pay off!

[@ebo7310]

Exactly

[@Grimmes12]

Easier said than done when all you have is $20 to your name like he said, and all because he spent it all like a SIMP. He needs to stop b*tch*ng so much and take the red pill and go MGTOW so he can be in a better situation to negotiate. Dave wasnt simping until he was down to his last $20 like Joe.

[@KerryannePatricia]

Isaiah Kyuga I actually have done the same Isaiah, Twice. I had high earnings with one company and they hired an Italian person to do my job at a lower salary, then tried to force me into another position in that company, which would have caused me to have unstable earnings. I took my severance and talents to a whole new company. At the new company, I held the highest earnings on my teams for several years and led them out of financial loss and into profit for back to back to back to back years. When I wasn’t being treated right or fairly, I threatened to leave unless things changed, and they did. However my situation is completely different than that of Joe Budden and the guys over there. Joe is used to seeing an industry profit off of the creativity and hard work of people of colour. An industry who only sees people of colour as numbers and/or monolithic. These businesses abuse their positions by putting people of colour into bullshit contracts and then use that money to line their own pockets or line the pockets of people who share the same image as them. What Joe is doing is bringing awareness for others coming after him(them) to know their worth and to be PAID according to their worth, and according to what they bring to the table. The two MUST match. Especially since, the Joe Budden Podcast has been around BEFORE their deal with Spotify. Spotify did not erect the Joe Bubben Podcast. Also the biggest issue here is that the earnings Spotify was making from the Joe Budden Podcast was bringing other podcasts to Spotify. Joe Budden should be compensated for the acquisitions of those podcasts. His brand gave Spotify that leverage and power. The ridiculous part is that these companies think these tactics still work in 2020. Anyone still getting in 360 deals or anything that resembles that, clearly is NOT paying attention. There has been too much exposure about this and it baffles me that business still offer this to talent. If the Joe Budden Podcast is the number one podcast on Spotify two years in a row, week after week, then the earnings and stock shares should reflect that. Spotify offering a Rolex watch rather than stock earnings to these grown ass men is not only an insult, its a con’ artist tactic. It’s like offering your kid candy if they would just keep quiet, after taking that kids piggy bank money. It’s ridiculous. If I built a product, that I was earning a living off of and someone came along and said, “I’ll give you a bigger platform and here’s what I’ll pay you for the first two years” and during those two years, my product was number one week after week, the smartest thing for me to do is investigate what those earnings are and to be sure I renegotiate my contract to be in line with those new earnings and potential earnings going forward. If that person who gave me that platform keeps moving the goal line for me to earn more and also becomes less trust worthy, why would i or anyone for that matter, want to remain in business with someone they cannot trust?? The money is not worth the stress, especially if it’s a product that I , created. I will take my business elsewhere. Companies and Brands do this all of the time. I pray from this situation, people will learn to pay attention to their business, their earnings, never sell themselves short, and not be con by big business.

[@biobelewilliam-west1310]

Michael Francis Tapia hello my MGTOW brother

[@KerryannePatricia]

@〔TFGG〕 how about you learn how to articulate yourself properly and don't address anyone unless you have something credible and pleasant to say. You sound like you lack education.

[@McNastee]

I've never listened to the podcast on Spotify all the content from the Joe Budden podcast I get has always been on youtube. I wonder how many others are like me.

[@IronGazille]

Me too, but Spotify is rolling out video too now. Something to do with Joe Rogan IIRC

[@SonofSamhein]

My sentiments exactly, brother...not ONE TIME, have I gone to Spotify...

[@Mkultra1186]

Never listened on Spotify. What for? Why would I? I’m right here on KZbin everyday. I only go to Spotify for music. KZbin needs to do a deal with JBP. Or Tidal... but Tidal doesn’t have enough subscribers nor do they have a free account option which would limit viewership.

[@LboogieEntertainmentTv]

same here

[@ReRefromtheBurg]

McDonald's Big Mac definitely me

[@miaemanuelle792]

Man all this time Rory and Mal sitting there not knowing at all what's going on and just nodding along. That's crazzzzy 😳

[@witchdoctor813]

🤣🤣

[@fkafranco]

they acted like Parks whole episode 😭

[@KWU_369]

Spotify offered them a pizza party for being number one for two years.

[@NoDDinOuTMeLoDy]

More then they deserve their own numbers were going down maybe ppl got tired of the cringe jokes and lack of difference in opinions

[@NoDDinOuTMeLoDy]

Or maybe the ppl got tired of Mals holier then thou act like he thinks he is the coolest dude in the world

[@changingtheculture6111]

Smart guy lol

[@Ravaun1]

@ Chuck E Cheese's, but snuck the pizzas in thru the back from the pizza spot down the street doing the one topping large for $7bucks pick up only.

[@russelljames5631]

LeftyManolo their own numbers were going down?

[@Weaverbeats]

spotify thinking an amy schumer podcast would blow up is nuts

[@jackmcklaine7405]

Factz

[@urgavecommunist]

i wish i could take your comment blow it up, put it on a billboard and place it outside spotify HQ. can i put this on my twitter. it really resonates with me lmao

[@SuchANatural]

@Eli Empire bingo

[@ebo7310]

@Eli Empire Period.

[@SuperDanny1016]

Fr lol

[@amcopeland1310]

Anybody double back after the blowup?

[@williamyoung3174]

Me indeed lol. Junt is crazy

[@mykelc205]

When Jimi Hendrix died, his estate wrote 250k checks to his 2 band mates. They took it. Since then, 8 tracks,records, cds, blurays and streaming have all came to be and they don't see a dime. Know your worth.

[@Hurricane9146]

Do you know how to calculate for inflation? That’s over a million back then. Not to mention it wouldn’t be commonplace for bands to own much. Not that hard to figure out that it was a good deal for them. They were the band. Not Jimi.

[@Soldierofgod96]

I get your point but that was in 1970 not many people had knowledge about the music busness like today. Also 250k was good money in those days

[@bigazTV]

La Pulga 250k was worth way more back then.. shit was cheap too don’t forget that. So he was super rich

[@__brianturnerbodybuildingt9988]

@@bigazTV Hell yeah everything was cheaper You could buy a house and a car lol

[@Sskytzo]

“Everything was cheaper then so that was a lot of money.” Y’all are correct. 250k back then may have secured a nice life for them. Having pieces of that catalog could’ve taken care of generations after them though. Were they stupid for taking the deal? Not at all. That being said, a pretty picture can be created from a small piece of an even more beautiful painting.

[@FlareBP]

REST IN POWER CHADWICK BOSEMAN

[@navnavnav99]

just reminded me to end my spotify subscription

[@SuperSouthchick]

my 3 month trial just ended lol

[@PrettyBadMoufTV]

Spotify dont pay creators our worth in general - he doing the right thing

[@Hurricane9146]

TANI RENEE our??? Who tf are you

[@Jesterisim]

Hurricane9146 indie artists are a thing lol

[@KWU_369]

@@Jesterisim His slick a$$ comment got me curious to check out her channel and watch a video

[@yeahthismilk]

Why do the system keep betting against Joe he always win in the long run. Just work with him and be fair he's a visionary.

[@saucyfaces]

I agree. His capability is undeniable at this point.

[@NelsonAmadeus]

Listen man I just wanna pay homage cause most people wont appreciate how powerful this is until you're gone... this energy is greater than any protest or hashtag... this is power... if everybody had this same spirit inside them in every industry they operated in, we would quickly return back into our rightful position in the ways of our ancestors... this entire society is built off our backs... from the labor that financed & built the infrastructure... to our ancestral teachings & artifacts that were stolen by these current nations in power... to the inventions & the raw talent that gets monetized for billions and trillions... to our ancestral homelands that get pillaged by the world powers for resources & raw materials still till this day while the natives suffer and have to flee to foreign nations for opportunity .... to our music that gets monetized for trillions... also the brain drain caused by our best & brightest going to work in these companies where they get monetized and underpaid.... combine all these things & you'll quickly realize why we struggle as a collective... you're a revolutionary bro... you're a legend.... you're gonna live forever... I'm 24 and this is motivation... the young brothers are watching... we laying low in the cut gathering knowledge and resources.... keep fighting the good fight bro... its much appreciated

[@caracasaltavista]

Pure facts!!!

[@tevinvezina1766]

Whose music is raking in trillions of dollars lol??

[@kjayy3924]

Tevin Vezina he’s saying people’s talents aka hip hop in general bringing in billions , trillions is a stretch but could very well be true

[@NelsonAmadeus]

​@@tevinvezina1766 not debating an empty page with no profile picture.... its alot of fake pages popping up on social media recently trying to spread confusion and false information.. Google is your friend & Amazon has endless literature. Peace. Also if you skipped over the brain drain, robbery of ancestral artifacts, effects of colonization, exploitation of black talent (physical, academic, and creative) - just to focus on music revenue? yeah you trollin. haha.

[@NelsonAmadeus]

@36 Freeze not debating an empty page with no profile picture.... its alot of fake pages popping up on social media recently trying to spread confusion and false information.. Google is your friend & Amazon has endless literature. Peace. Also if you skipped over the brain drain, robbery of ancestral artifacts, effects of colonization, exploitation of black talent (physical, academic, and creative) - just to focus on music revenue? yeah you trollin. haha.

[@RideDaBeatTVPodcast]

The Joe Budden show going to win on any streaming platform. Love it

[@reesha2787]

💯

[@vipy4309]

Spotify is going to be hurting when they see this podcast at the top top.

[@mediamainenetwork]

Hell yea

[@sticky9501]

"How about Queens? There's a lot of Greeks there." Rory remains undefeated

[@RENZEENO]

This feels like deja vu....

[@tiffanymeriwether7687]

Rory and Mal quiet. Kinda proves that the pod belongs to Joe. U can see they seem uncomfortable with Joe speaking.

[@jaseallenson316]

Its ironic how joes says we can all look at a house from the outside and say its beautiful, but we dont know until we go inside the house. Well joe, its clear why you refused to let rory and mal inside the house. Clown

[@Overthoughts]

Came to count how many times he says “we”. I’m guessing by we he meant himself and Ian. 🌚

[@derrick1347]

Top 10 segment of the whole podcast 9 figures comin soon.

[@aldomedina7999]

Fucking facts !! And retaining ips

[@SirWafflees]

Listen love Joe's podcast. But I don't see how he can even command 9 figures for just one podcast.Joe Rogan has a much bigger name and platform.

[@darrellanderson7445]

poetmm no they offered 8... 1st it was 7 figures now 8. If they offered 9 I’m sure he’d sign but he also not giving up his teams rights as well. He/they deserve 9 tho. I’m sure their bringing in a billion. Give him/them 10 percent.

[@aldomedina7999]

@@darrellanderson7445 facts!. I'm sure they have tons of concepts that he can produce for a good contract . They even joked about parks having his own cooking show I'd imagine with rem and chairsey . Rory and baisly sounds like another one , mal reviews could be another basically like aks shows , pull up , pod , live shows another . Like Joe said he's a walking proof of concept that's worth 9digits for sure

[@chuteball]

@ no way in hell they offered him 100M pluss

[@loupz4047]

“Our households were in shambles no wonder Cyn left” 😂😂😂😂 JOE always gotta go too far at least 4 times every episode😂

[@SuzieQ2221]

So true lok

[@RhettReisman]

Joe dropping out of school at 15 is better at business than most people with an MBA

[@TrinidadSuperman]

To be fair joe got scammed and failed a bunch of times but sometimes that needs to happen for you to become a sage

[@RhettReisman]

@@TrinidadSuperman People with MBAs fail a bunch too. Failure is necessary. I think people who drop out of school respect credentialing and degrees too much. There's a lot of dumb people out here with MBAs

[@ItachiUchiha-lr3yr]

No he's not good at business, thats why he was a rapper. That's the point he's making, he's finally starting to learn the tricks & trying to share it with people.

[@Grimmes12]

@@ItachiUchiha-lr3yr preach!

[@capitalisticsociety30]

If Joe would have went to school he would have known how to make a good business deal based off streams and sells etc before being scammed by the industry. It took him 20 years of getting f-cked over before he got here. Compared to a 2 to 4 year business program he could have done online -

[@loupz4047]

I never really cared where this podcast ranked. We just want the energy and laughter we get every episode. Spotify really had the nerve to know what YOUR audience would do?😂 where ever yall go thats where WE’RE gona go

[@sweetnupe61911]

I'm an attorney but this isn't legal advice; just an observation. I think JBP has it right - they are in the pillaging business and they're unsure of how long the gravy train will last. They've diversified since onboarding his podcast 2 years ago and financed other deals in the content/listenership direction they chose which cater to the masses -- while JBP would be considered an "urban" niche listener/viewership. Within 6 months of outperforming the contract, they attempted to open negotiations on an extension but realized he wasn't a pushover by summarily rejecting the offer. My Professional Responsibility professor in law school referred to this as the "Sweet Pimp." They then began a string of broken promises, moving the goalposts on bonuses, and pushy behavior to keep the gravy train going for the duration of the contract, even enlisting BS to cold call for them to resume podcasting during the pandemic when his father was gravely ill from COVID-19. Again, my professor referred to this as the "Gorilla Pimp." When you are used to devaluing and underestimating a certain segment of the population, certain implicit biases come into play, including the propensity for low-balling and lack of equity sharing. Clearly, JBP believes they have brought in 9 figures or at least $100 million by virtue of their continuous #1 ratings, not to mention Time Spent Listening (TSL) and audience/customer experience (SAI). However, they are playing hardball, withholding important performance data with the old "my dog ate my homework" excuse, and attempting to force JB to negotiate in the blind. He therefore has to extrapolate to determine his value -- at the very least 10x what they offer. I applaud the team for sticking together and betting on themselves. Contract with multiple DSPs and maintain ownership and creative control of your brand and content.

[@mr.djenkins3022]

They didn’t want to cash y’all out because they don’t respect your audience in part. I could be 100 wrong, just my suspension

[@SyphaUno]

you not wrong

[@jackmcklaine7405]

Obviously since they thought Amy Schumer pod would blow

[@jmart5302]

This is why we love this podcast. As real as it fkn gets!!!

[@Coodae]

You ever mess with a channel so much that you like the video as soon as you click on it. Me too. Waddup...

[@KASLEX]

Every time Joe says "2 years ago" I say" A friend of mine"....🤣

[@heatspitta]

Lmao u wild

[@PlannerGirlLifestyle]

🤣🤣🤣

[@victorkenarsy3024]

I do it all the time.

[@KWU_369]

Asked me to say some MC rhymes So I said this rhyme I'm about to say The rhyme was Def a-then it went this way

[@tubevagabond]

The dope thing about this, is he's telling independent folks to know your worth. Then on top of that, making sure that his crew around him, flourish along with him. And I only mention that because I'm listening to this thinking the same way he's watching out for the JBP Boys. He tried to do w/ AK as well. Continue feeding the soil

[@chikaa578]

Joe, Master P told you about this in "A Seat at the Table".

[@donniedufrane9995]

PreeeeeeACH!!!!🤙🏾

[@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D]

He specifically mentioned that

[@chikaa578]

@@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D I missed that part. Seems like he's taking it into consideration now.

[@chikaa578]

@JBcoolbreez Master P shares a story about turning down $1M early in his career in Solange's seminal album, "A Seat at the Table". I am not suggesting I know more than Joe because I haven't made my millions. I am sure Joe knew they were undervaluing his podcast, but alas, black people are put into that same position at every socioeconomic level. It's expensive to be broke.

[@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D]

c He always was. The reason he went to Spotify was to learn and to get the analytics/data. They lied to him. This happens all the time, unfortunately. But he honored his contract

[@Bossesroundhere]

Proud of yall fr. This is a power move. • Know your worth • Demand your value • Remain in abundance Yall been pioneering & trailblazing, and have continued pushing the culture forward. Keep growing. Thank you for sharing game.

[@keshiamccray2173]

I canceled my premium Spotify a couple of months ago. Heard they don't treat black women right. It was a wrap for me after hearing that info. I believe everything Joe is saying. Glad Joe knows his worth. He's giving us free game!

[@FutureBillionaire1111]

I'm telling you it's true! I work at 4 world trade and I see how they're worked,

[@SharronDenice]

Other than Dame Dash I haven’t seen many talking about how the industry works down to the details. TLC/Left Eye dropped info on points on a CD but those days are over. First time I started listening, this is the first show I’ve listened to, this is good content.

[@Logic1611]

Business man knowledge and game. This segment right here is day one legendary.

[@KontryBoy706]

Charlamange just sit back and learn something...

[@Hurricane9146]

Seriously? Char worth a lot more then joe Buddens

[@mexdaman7945]

Hurricane9146 that’s why he saying sit back and learn something. Joe is going to come out of this with a 250 millions dollar deal

[@KontryBoy706]

Hurricane9146 charlamagne has been basically hating on Joe ever since he agreed to do Complex. He said Joe would ruin it. After Joe left that show look at all the things he has accomplished. CTG was apart of some of those things... while still hating. Soon as Joe left Complex, here comes charlamange saying, “see I told you he would ruin it”. When Joe’s podcast went #1, CTG was hating on the breakfast club while his podcast brilliant idiots wasn’t as popular. People started saying Joe was basically replacing CTG in certain aspects. Now, Joe is leaving Spotify and who’s the first to give their opinion/hate on it?... Charlamagne. Today they talked about Joe on the breakfast club. Watch how Joe levels up once again because he knows his worth. Why does CTG continue to hate from afar? If he’s so good where he is, why is he always hating? Besides all that, CTG didn’t even listen to this whole segment before he made his comments in the first place. It’s clear he didn’t even know the points Joe clearly discussed

[@wtroupe64wt]

He sold his soul to keep his career and joe didn’t

[@wtroupe64wt]

KontryBoy706 big facts!!!!!

[@tricky1094]

Im a 50 year old white guy from the uk who loves this podcast many of my friends do to know your value my friend:)

[@americantroy77]

They don’t value the black audience

[@blackarabofficial]

Nah they do my brother so much so they won’t pay the black entertainers their dues.

[@jamilafever8110]

Until it's gone.

[@Ozem_Israel]

@@blackarabofficial that's over a lot of heads, people need to open they eyes and they will see that the whole planet is influenced by a people that don't even know who they are themselves. And just why is that?

[@blackarabofficial]

Borninvincibl3 FPV you ain’t wrong I tell you that it’s sad but we gotta remember our power but I think the damage done is almost irreversible as sad as I aim to say it, it’s pandemic level

[@saud8329]

Joe B. reportedly asked for 250 million. You guys are deluded if you think hes even worth half of that when the biggest podcast joe rogan got 100 million. Joe budden signed a shitty deal and hes not throwing a fit that spotify isnt giving him more than what the contract specified

[@jennymarms]

Im supporting Joe wherever he goes 🙌🏽 I’ve been listening to this podcast weekly for the last 3 years, and it makes me happy that it ain’t going anywhere! 💯

[@darnelldarden9429]

This whole time rory and Mal had no idea what that Spotify deal was that’s why Joe never wanted to mention the numbers

[@ald5818]

What's Rory deleting at 1:28:45??

[@mosettyson]

“this is all poker and monopoly”

[@Ju5Tice718]

2 years ago promises is all I heard. Wait a minute.. Lemme finish..

[@zanderceo91]

So...basically your point is the value of a regular Spotify music stream shouldn’t equal a regular premium podcast stream. Agree 100% big homie. Advertising CPM jumps 2-3x for vids over ten mins. Makes sense. They need a different metric system to reflect podcasting consumption behavior. Shittt..I feel that.

[@Will-em6ee]

I would imagine they already have the metrics if Joe is able to easily show them through negotiations. The issue for Spotify is they can't possibly afford what the JBP is worth on today's current market. If they were to admit that the metrics that Joe (and the rest of the industry ) are using to calculate value generated are accurate, then this would be so obvious that their earlier shitty offer would be shown to be as disrespectful as it actually is. Spotify is fucked for a multitude of reasons but the largest being the one he mentions at the end in that they have no hardware and no way to generate revenue outside of streaming and ads.

[@jindiggs]

To all of our young youth, learn and learn from these words. These talks you might not have in the future, they are worth gold.

[@breyourself5274]

Joe : “used watches for everybody” lmfao.

[@hugrad95]

Spotify thought Joe was going to take new rapper deal lol.....Sign ya life on the X....

[@PrettyBadMoufTV]

I dont listen on spotify anyway lol i like the video 💪🏽

[@carbondated21]

Wherever JBP go, we go. Appreciate yall standing for something. We got yall 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@sanmann0]

Hope Tidal is listening would love to have this podcast on my subscription.

[@1samb]

Speaking of Kanye west's - Diamond from Sierra Leon. One of Jay's line in that song fit this scenario. "i'm not a businessman, i'm a business man, so let me do my business damm!"

[@newvibes3033]

My brother I’ve never heard of you before. I learned of you when your name was mentioned in a podcast. I must say I learned more in just a few minutes than any other podcast I’ve ever heard. God Bless You Bro great Job.

[@cfox6549]

This episode going to be history I feel it

[@mandralliance]

If you can't see the knowledge Budden is dropping...Maaaan!! You are sleeping on him. Blessings Joey, always been a fan, you always been 100. This is next level knowledge!!!

[@watchyoutubeaccount1]

Its cause Spotify can't control you like they control everyone else. JBP has too niche of an audience and Spotify and Joe don't know how to amplify it to the next level. That's why Spotify isn't going to give Joe a crazy deal like how they did for Joe Rogen. Joe Rogen has a wider range of audiences and topics they talk about. Spotify just isn't the right platform/partner for you Joe Budden. The way you think is very much from an entrepreneur side but unfortunately, you are not the owner of Spotify, you are not the podcast gatekeeper. You have to play by their rules. Thanks for always entertaining us and keeping it real. Much respect.

[@dryxbee]

It’s mad disrespectful. I’m with Joe. How are you not going to give your number 1 podcast their bonus after beating dumb charts, they don’t get their vacation? They don’t get their watches that Spotify offered to get them. They called joe when his dad was dying asking why they haven’t been making podcast. If I’m Spotify I’m flying these guys where they want, talk where they want. Give them their platform. Mad Respect to The Joe Budden Podcast. Shout out to my dudes out here sticking to their worth and knowing what they’re worth.

[@viv8976]

900% above projection.

[@kingblazebeats]

Wherever Joe goes I go. I only got Spotify because of you.

[@ChrisDodges123]

11:21 That snap back to reality was ill 😂😂😂😂😂

[@amirr9147]

Support Joe Budden Podcast!

[@DRek903]

Stand in this moment Joe! This is part of that systemic problem that’s got to change.

[@dadon6601]

Amen!

[@justicexholiday]

I was in a bubble of accepting less than what I deserve at a corporation I educated myself got licensed as a barber and now I'm my own boss. I'm good and the head is great, all young men should take steps to empower themselves independently.

[@sticky9501]

"Have you seen the new G Shock?" LOOOOOL

[@frenchieeva5332]

If you listen closely at 6:08 you can here Spotify staff beeping at joe to stop talking about this topic 😂😂💀

[@ebonynsweet]

He had to first prove his brand in a new market. He will definitely get a $20 to $40 million dollar deal he’s next time around.

[@darrellanderson7445]

Is that annually or over a few years? Just wondering

[@kid_dynamite0872]

Has to be annually. I’m guessing 300 to 500 mil for 5 years or something like that. They just getting started, the amount of revenue they make is going make is going be crazy with a major brand or label behind them.

[@TheNumbasign2]

Never

[@vuyol1853]

Im sitting here rewatching this in July 2021 and just 3 minutes into it im sitting here wondering "How did it get so messy with Joe and these two gents", they seemed so tight and genuine with each other.

[@starworldempire]

The problem is Rory and Mal didn’t help you expand the audience. They don’t contribute to the show at all, Joe would still get the same views by his self

[@KalleyX]

Joe Budden is a different type of genius. I can't even put a title on it.

[@Kash7_]

Welp Spotify ✌🏾JBP I’m rocking with y’all PERIOD

[@bizzle1273]

SupaFact$$$... I only downloaded Spotify to Listen to “THE JOE BUDDEN PODCAST” Talk that $hit🔥🔥🔥

[@joshpark4890]

I didn't even know this was on spotify i only watch this on YT

[@thesovereignwoman]

Same

[@DigitalPlacebo]

Yo Joe. I'm an on and off a listener. This has got to be one of your best shows in my opinion because it shows how to think like a boss. God bless on your next steps. Boss Moves.

[@russie.russell]

Also if anyone else remembers Joe constantly saying...."I'm trying to figure out how the data works" on various eps? B

[@MACHOx3_theRealestateGamecat]

Joe shinning out in this game man... Unlocking n showing his genius 👏 👌 🙌🙌💪

[@jamesblanks4747]

Mal got that look Jayz had in the photo when Dame was talking shit in them basketball jerseys...

[@krayzee9231]

I followed from complex, I’m jumping ship with you. Btw Joe really played the whole situation from complex to now perfectly - respect the brand (desus and mero voice)

[@michaelfraser4597]

Real talk!!!! Mind yo Business, no shucking and Jivin NO MO!!

[@KairoK]

And I watched all of it

[@MrBreisMusic]

I can't believe we were given this inside scoop whilst Joe was still under his contract. So many lessons for us as creatives and entrepreneurs. Arise & Shine people, it's time to know your worth...and then add tax!

[@MrBreisMusic]

Mr. Marshall I agree with you about building our own platforms however there is also the art of negotiation, Ray Charles for example was a genius at this. Some know how to make the matrix work for them while others will create their own world. Both are welcome. Let’s not forget that Joe turned down a few offers before accepting Spotify’s. He knew he was worth more than the seemingly big offers at the time and it paid off. This is happening all over again. They will always low ball us, but we don’t always have to accept it. And it’s not about comparing himself to mainstream podcasts, he says so himself. It’s about knowing what you’re worth and what you bring them. He seems to know enough about analytics and the business of podcasts to broker a better deal where his worth is acknowledged. Let’s watch this space.

[@rafi4241]

I’ve notice the Apple logo isn’t hidden anymore signs that they are moving to Apple Music

[@platinum7990]

That would be a good move. Apple has the bag for them too. Apple Musics biggest competition was spotify. This will be a great deal for both parties

[@rafi4241]

KingShazzi facto

[@raquel7202]

I’m here after Rory and Mal are gone. 👋🏾

[@jonlamontagne]

What are Joe's thoughts on what Joyner is doing right now with ADHD I know the times we are living in makes it hard for Joyner to live off his come up without being able to do shows but just the independent route?

[@Polycodone]

Always thought Joe should have his own network. I hope that is what's next. He's perfect for that

[@kdot8246]

"Talent" is synonymous with product but they can't call a person a product

[@portlyjohnson6194]

At 23:10, now multiply that by a 1000 you have resentment.

[@mysticalroamer]

Joe should start his own pod company. Any company really but it seems he found something he’s passionate about. With great people surrounding him.

[@ChrisDodges123]

1:20:43 BILL SIMMONS IMPERSONATION 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@anthonychavez255]

How much extra money did Spotify give Simmons just to ignore Joe’s pops being sick Complete Fuxkery

[@Bigg420Smoke]

Joe is the embodiment of freedom of speech ✊🏽

[@AJRAOfficial]

JOE BUDDEN YOU LEGEND I DON'T WANT YOU TO PASS BEFORE SEEING AND SMELLING YOUR FLOWERS THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK MAL RORY PARKS SAVONE EVERYONE THAT HELPED CAMERA CREW SOUND ENGINEER EVERYONE! !!!!

[@RENZEENO]

I fully support Joe budden and his choices but I'm just really worried about Rory mal and the team.... They could of became millionaires over night.... Having a 360 deal may not have been such a big problem for them... Are they going to see that kind of money any other way anytime soon or ever now? But Joe made the decision for them I'm guessing? I really wonder how they're feeling right now cos I'd be really depressed man. I would of took the deal man if I was in their position but Joe is a celeb so he may be worth more than that deal so I understand his position. Its a sticky one shhtttillll

[@DariusMylik]

Joe Budden such an under appreciated part of hip hop and black culture/business. This segment is the example of that. So much game given!

[@iloveeeroro]

"....everybody isn't coming to feed the soil, some are just looking to take the fruit!" ok joe! come through with the word 👏🏾

[@KWU_369]

Capitalism is unsustainable in its purest form. It is possible to take so much that all that's left is despair.

[@scarlet8078]

@@KWU_369 Educate yourself. No system is perfect, but capitalism has produced the most prosperous, privileged & egalitarian nations in history. Joe & JBP crew are direct beneficiaries of our system & indeed are examples of the American Dream, showing that Inspiration + Perspiration = Success

[@jojosteel3399]

@@scarlet8078 Mothers dying in the cold show that it's outlived it's usefulness at this point

[@CyberAscendant]

*pick the fruit

[@KWU_369]

@@scarlet8078 I am aware of the benefits of capitalism but I also know that pushing for less regulation and attempting to get closer to pure capitalism with weakened social programs is unsustainable. Everyone in the world wants to live like Americans but the planet doesn't have the resources or capability for our excess. It's not profitable to forsee the negative societal effects of a business and do different.

[@ElleBoogie_]

Say what you want about Joe, but I appreciate the fact that he understands his value & has no problem sharing that with the public. He's leading by example and giving us the game. Much respect. 🙏🏿

[@Bossrah]

But he doesnt understand his value... that's the problem

[@Hurricane9146]

Another naive person who can’t see the bigger picture. Every deal Joe does he ends up ruining because he thinks he’s worth more. EVERY deal

[@AirmanJack89]

Bossrah how when they offer better deals?

[@AirmanJack89]

Hurricane9146 he didn’t ruin the deal. The deal is almost done. Nothing has been broken or destroyed. He’s playing it out then leaving

[@johnwayne-vs7ub]

@@Hurricane9146 it was a two year deal, he literally said he completed his deal. Tell me how he ruined a deal he just completed /honored...

[@littleteme78]

"My education is limited. My knowledge is not " - Joe Budden Education and knowledge comes from life experiences not just the classroom.

[@andresciahooten9598]

That’s so true

[@Mr.Kang24.8]

U tink u can decipher this for the people in the back?🧐😅😅

[@Dannystateofmind]

This is important for all content creators & entrepreneurs!!! Can’t give in to the first big check you get offered!! Gotta know your worth & trust your gut! Thank you Joe & the boys for the insight & work, the fans can’t thank y’all enough

[@Hurricane9146]

But he thinks he worth more then he is.

[@MarcPlaysDrums]

Facts.

[@welcometothefamily_us]

@@Hurricane9146 And has a right to feel such

[@mumble97]

@@welcometothefamily_us He could also be wrong. It's a gamble he's taking hopefully it pans out.

[@jonlamontagne]

As I tell everyone negotiating anything be it a house, car, or a job. Say the offer you are comfortable with and walk away. The person who speaks last in a negotiation loses! I am not dealing with numbers that Joe is talking about here but that doesn't change my message in it being correct! Spotify loses if Joe never says a number back and walks to another platform or even creates his own. Money should not be decided on emotion only on calculation and careful consideration. Spotify saying $50 Mill to Joe means he is worth more than that on his own in an open market!

[@ReppinCTandATL]

This segment is worth listening to multiple times! Free game!

[@shanebrown3906]

About a million dollars worth of game

[@THEMADVILLAIN.]

Shane Brown lol see what you did there

[@danielleelizabeth9860]

Just about to say. My second time listening and im finally getting it

[@avrgegmer1396]

This is why I love JB and something I’ve learned over my time at my current workplace. I also know about putting your foot down when people try to lowball you. I also got to learn how people move once you recognize your worth. I’ve made many enemies in high places because of me not selling my self short. They won’t touch me because I know I’m worth more and for the time it’s a mutual I do my thing and you do yours but if it ever came to them wanting to get me out they would in a heart beat. The great thing though is I’ve already recognize I can do more outside than we’re I currently am and regardless I will thrive. Sometimes you have to see how unfair the game is to those that play fairly, meanwhile those that learn it, get their weight in gold, know your worth Kings and Queens!

[@nigel5895]

Third run now.

[@TrinidadSuperman]

This a segment is damn near a whole episode 😂😂

[@tsugrad13]

I had to check the time and title, I was so confused! 🤣

[@DrewsR6]

Getn then 7 episodes knocked out in a week😂

[@callmejo6]

Lmaoooooo I swear it is ... but imma still watch it

[@9493waltbabyluv]

JBP Lite

[@kendrickjamone6608]

I seen this first....... but the fish has died

[@floridaman7]

I pay for spotify for music.. I only listen to this show from youtube. Idk why but i like the video to go with it.

[@Cameron_F]

I also like video. Spotify is implementing video when Rogan launches.

[@missincognito2666]

Same

[@LadyJ1020]

We like the video bc it feels like we are in the living room with the guys/team.

[@arsniv24]

Video always adds engagement with presenters

[@tadah21]

They launched video already higher learning podcast has video with several others on ringer no comment section.

[@kjayy3924]

All y’all need is the people fellas , this was free game y’all put on display , everything isn’t about the money , we gon support y’all in whatever journey this pod takes next !!

[@CharlieBrown247]

It's about passive participation in all the money coming in 💪🏾

[@sheltonshort7052]

Right.. create an exclusive app. We'll follow, I promise.

[@dantedlane2]

@@sheltonshort7052 no you wont,that's why the NBA players will cut this protest quick ,and get back to playing number 1 China runs nba ,and like podcast or music,we as a group goes as a froup,tidal is afloat but getting ran over cause the industry wants to kill it off and push the more lucrative,competitive business to control the market,this is stronger then your support

[@saucyfaces]

🙏🏽

[@adrielmilitano5442]

This video aged weird... lol

[@mimi2613]

I remember when Joe started on Periscope all by himself in his living room getting bitched at by his neighbors for being so loud. Lol

[@prop4g4nd423]

I just figure it out. They were using Joes podcast to pay for the other acquisitions. It's what venture capital does.

[@kazquillo]

genuinely curious . . could you explain a bit more about this

[@enriquedominguez7926]

🤯🤯🤯

[@teth-adam]

@@kazquillo essentially the ad revenue generated from one popular podcast is used to make other desirable acquisitions, that's what he's saying. Not sure if it's accurate but that's what he's saying.

[@capitalisticsociety30]

BlaqAdam Yeah but he left out the part about how they paid Joe Rogan A BILLION DOLLARS but wouldn’t give JOE BUDDEN a quarter of that -

[@teth-adam]

CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY A BILLION?? 😂😂 obviously you're exaggerating but we really don't know what they offered Joe. From what he said it was more than he had ever seen in his lifetime.

[@Dannystateofmind]

This is important for all content creators & entrepreneurs!!! Can’t give in to the first big check you get offered!! Gotta know your worth & trust your gut! Thank you Joe & the boys for the insight & work, the fans can’t thank y’all enough

[@Dannystateofmind]

Krulos ive been watching joe building his online brand since 09-10 on youtube & blog tv. Sure he was a rapper but there weren’t many rappers vlogging/streaming online like that back then & he eventually built his pod up to what it is today....i dont see why he all any of yall shit 😂

[@kameronsmith5585]

@Mr. Marshall They are not on Spotify. He is talking about how they are number 1 on Spotify, not all podcasts. Second how are you gonna tell him how much his brand is worth? You’re on the outside looking in.

[@terezrel3619]

💯