Is Chivalry Corny? | The Joe Budden Podcast

[@Just_King_4ever]

Chivalry is only corny to corny people. I was taught to be a gentleman to women. I also grew up and learned that you can't be chivalrous to just "any" woman. To put it simply. Some men don't raise their sons to be gentleman. Some women don't raise their daughters to accept it when it comes. Both sides have work to do. IMO. 🤷🏾‍♂️💯💪🏾

[@shawnorjiakor]

Love this breakdown

[@nhlba3301]

Facts! ✅

[@ThePrometheus617]

AMEN

[@shannondolphin4962]

🎯

[@blackmcbain3145]

Facts bruh. What joe think he was doing dating these lowlifes with low info and low attention minds.

[@beastmode40205]

The topic of being/not being chivalrous will redirect to the golden rule. Treat others the way you would wanna be treated. Now if EVERYONE lived by that, then yes there'd be no reason not to be chivalrous. But the modern woman generally speaking has entitlement issues, and you can't have entitlement issues without either having an ego or a bitter spirit. And if you're ruled by either of those, then giving chivalrous energy to that is only enabling that behavior. How is that conducive to a good relationship of any kind? A man isn't entitled to sex, and a woman isn't entitled to a psychological/spiritual punching bag.

[@Hfgv281]

The original golden rule is flawed. It should be "treat others as they want to be treated".

[@DJAUDIO1]

It's not dead, but the fact that people you are always being compared to past experiences is what ruins it 100%. There is a balance. Keep it all off social media.

[@JSchmiz01]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@Franko2Timez]

That's how you keep yourself safe and not gullible. Never forget the past.

[@megamarcx84]

What Joe and a lot of men whom have been popular with women for a while are too privileged to understand is how chivalry has been wholly taken advantage of by the average woman. They don't tend to respond positively or respectfully to chivalry unless it serves their purposes in a selfish way.

[@bbbbBEOTCH]

U mean they caught on to the fact every1 tryin to fk em 🤣

[@DenesiaWilliams1888]

Chivalry is not corny. Any woman that has a problem with chivalry is the problem and is the wrong one for you to exhaust your efforts on... I love it

[@jamesbrookins1115]

When you have a moment with a woman that you know that damn, I'll do everything for her and she can be the one. Just do it

[@mybizness247]

😂😂😂 Joe's face while they were talking about the curb 😂

[@AntyeStudios]

LMAO I died the way he said "YO WTF ARE YALL DOING?!?"

[@edsondepina8430]

Ayooooooooo Joe face

[@jlavelle24]

Yes it's dead and women killed it.

[@goldy7051]

💯

[@UnBR0k3enAngel]

I don't even think about it tbh. I usually just hold doors and shit because I do it as a job. Always weird when women get so surprised by it, but it is what it is.

[@ALPHAVILLAINS]

💯"Chivalry" Is Corny Because Men Do It to impress woman. When A Man Does Things For His OWN Reasons, He wont be corny bro -AV

[@PhillyCelebTV]

Chivalry should just be a part of a man’s character period, under every circumstance

[@Fade2BlackSS]

Facts

[@Gino565]

And it should be reciprocated. Shouldn’t it?

[@PhillyCelebTV]

@@Gino565 for sure

[@Dwyanerose]

“Chivalry is dead, and wahmen killed it” -Dave chappelle

[@BlackTrunksPodcast]

The answer to modern dating is to not date at all. The game is rigged to one side of the party and being toxic is normalized now. Prove me wrong! 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@DJAUDIO1]

Gaslighting too.

[@BlackTrunksPodcast]

@@DJAUDIO1 😂😂😂😂

[@Stoic_Muzik]

You right to an extent. Don’t date. Focus on you. Become a better man who is worthy of the rare good woman. Then when she cross yo path you actually built to handle her right and u can decide over time if she has worked on herself enough to be worth your time.

[@seanyoung9014]

The only thing wrong with chivalry is wasting it on the wrong person. The thing that's actually corny is some of these definitions of manliness being thrown around. A lot of these guys worry about what another man will think before anything.

[@vlon3lyboiii666]

Ong shit sus lowkey

[@rashidodoms5452]

Ice is hilarious “she know the weather”😂🤣😂🤣

[@michael43567]

It's facts tho. You (the woman) gotta take accountability for not bringing a jacket. I'll still offer my jacket, but I'm my head I'm defo calling her an idiot lol

[@bptboy2]

I’ll be chivalrous till you show me otherwise. I’m already corny, so it don’t bother me none. And it don’t stop me none either.

[@kidmelo1994]

Chivalry is never corny. However we have to be honest, chivalry get abuse alot ( not all the time) but enough to address.

[@sirashley2355]

"do yall know how many millions of people are watching yall right now? " "no, you won't show us the numbers" lol

[@Fadbangles]

Joe: Do you know how many mafucers is listening? Ice: No you wont show us the numbers? lmaooooo

[@blackmcbain3145]

Aw shit, here we go again 🤣

[@mybizness247]

😂😂 I caught that

[@jaydavidson7311]

😂😂😂😂

[@getrudemaphutha6700]

🤣🤣🤣

[@travisfreeman3353]

Chivalry isn't dead nor corny but with a lot men (including myself) we see some women don't take a man being a gentleman or just being courteous as good traits in a man. So many women are use to dealing with a--holes they get use to being treated badly or sometimes enjoying toxicity in a relationship they don't know how to accept compliments or kindness from a man....Some women look at being a gentleman as weakness in a man.

[@jourisoujiro7965]

Chivalry is why people are sick and tired of how Men are portrayed in Tyler Perry films. In his movies, there's always some woman who has been through toxic relationships and then suddenly some Man (Chivalry Knight and Shining Armor) comes along and deals with all of her Insecurities that were build up because of who she previously dealt with. And now it's the Chivalry Knight's job to deal with all of that and heal her so she can live happily ever after.

[@bryanpettus7111]

From what I was told when I was younger a woman walking with you on the outside of you towards the street, It’s nothing serious in the relationship, If their on the inside she’s yours without saying anything

[@saturdaysequalsyouth]

I try to read the situation. If I feel like she will appreciate chivalry I'll do it. If I think she doesn't care or doesn't want it, I'll skip it. But in my experience, more often than not, women like it. It is starting to feel a little old fashioned to me, but it's not about me anyway.

[@gregjohnson8426]

Keep your lady safe. Period. I open the door, pull out the chair, walk on the outside, give her my coat, etc. I’m her security. Literally! That’s why I do all of those “chivalrous” things. ✊🏾✊🏿

[@sickvokals]

Chivalry is TAUGHT. It's a lesson that hasn't been taught for decades. These new dudes know NOTHING about sensitivity toward women. They want to be sensitive themselves lol

[@marylewis5860]

From my perspective, there is a difference between chivalry and integrity. Chivalry is not dead, it's a lack integrity that's the problem.

[@blackerdays]

Chivalry is really corny . Why do NONTRADITIONAL women deserve traditional treatment? It’s the height of selfishness to expect something that isn’t returned

[@BigChrisENT]

this conversation would be so different if your girl was suddenly hitting up all her single exes to see how they're doing... If yall were fresh off an argument or you passed on sx the night before then suddenly she hitting up her exes... Or if she was still talking to that one ex she know you dont like?

[@ajbaymon4984]

A large part of this segment was cap anyway. Niggas love to pretend they cool with everything. C'mon dawg 😂

[@MarkPrinceVlogs]

The bleeping got me weakkkkk 😂😂

[@blackmcbain3145]

Ice dressed like squid games contestant

[@jaydell4039]

🤣🤣🤣

[@nhlba3301]

Chivalry is not corny it’s called being a grown human man lol

[@Hellahellabandz]

I’m with ice. You saw the weather tf

[@dominicworthey6776]

Joes scarf is CRAZY

[@blackmcbain3145]

Stole it from dracula himself

[@MegaUtube99]

Chivalry is not corny, but its dead. And women are the ones who I killed it.

[@kingdiff420lifestyle3]

Feminist killed chivalry

[@noquartergiven1332]

I don’t hate my ex and I still can’t think of one reason to talk to my her.

[@branflakee4257]

Same, plus you open doors for your current girlfriend to do the same if she can't communicate

[@Fade2BlackSS]

I don't think it is. I'm 33 and was always raised to treat a woman with respect and if she has any, she'll do the same for you when the time comes. You'll be surprised how much the little things like giving your hoodie when it's cold, opening doors/car doors or walking towards the outside of the street closer to the curb (so your lady is on the inside) is mind-blowing to some of these ladies because they've never received it. Notice, I said the "right" woman too. Some women don't give a damn. But some, if you treat them like queens, they'll treat you like kings. 🤷‍♂️

[@michael43567]

Idk man. I'm 10 years younger and I observe a growing number of women EXPECTING chivalry. I've seen some stand by the door and just wait for the man to open it. More and more aren't even saying "thank you".

[@michael43567]

Nah that's facts. You seen the weather too. I'm cold too, I'm keeping my jacket lol

[@lilj3t979]

"Riverroad" lol fr run it back u can see it everytime

[@ericmclean4291]

One thing that will clear up all confusion is not being afraid to define your relationship at all times. If we start out casually dating, we will just be casually dating until we sit-down and both agree what the next step of our relationship will be. The is no time limit or situation that allows you to skip over the conversation. We can be a year in and seeing each other multiple times a week, but you not my girl and I'm not your man if unless we've actively discussed the progression of our relationship. The reason why a lot of people are afraid of these conversations is that they know how the other person feels. It is entirely up to you to tell your partner when the situation no longer suits you. It is 100% your fault if you decide to wait.

[@ThePlaybackRoom]

“modern woman” make it seem like chivalry is corny.

[@jpotts21]

3:38 tho lmaoo

[@donlanky6388]

You saw the weather!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣😅🤣😅😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣

[@dominicmane2907]

It was alot of cap in this video but some truth too 😂😂😂

[@QuiteHermit25]

Yes. It. Is

[@uncleduece2]

When you walk on the outside you’re signaling she’s with you. If you walk on the inside you’re signaling she’s “available”💰

[@ericmclean4291]

The problem with chivalry is that most of the gestures don't have any value, they're just weird tests. The ones concerning a women's safety is one thing but the other bulls*t is meaningless. You don't need a man's assistance to open a car door or sit down in a chair. These things tell you nothing about the person you're with. You should be paying attention to the actually subtance of your relationship instead of worrying if the guy jumped through some small hoops for you.

[@deezyphillips3942]

I swear that “Birds” soundbite sounds like Chromazz

[@donnislee2594]

The pier is something joe esp on that sun set

[@vlon3lyboiii666]

Chivalry not dead it jus has to be used in moderation these days people’s perception and views inadvertently change over time

[@jamesbrookins1115]

You Walk out together, passenger side door is curbside. Get it together gentlemen.

[@MrOhioPlayer]

A lost art that by the day is less and less appreciated....

[@deezyphillips3942]

Chivalry isn’t dead- I think like anything it evolves. I’m not gonna expect my husband to rush to my side of the car door if I make it there first or same with any door, that’s a little much. I might even open the first set of doors for him and he opens the 2nd. It’s really not that deep. he pays for the gas, I sometimes pump (gasp) but my husband provides for us financially and is a cold ass Barber with a bad back so it’s nothin to open my own door sometimes. Relationships are a give and take IMO.

[@kawasakithegeneral2367]

people really be hating on Fresh & Fit just to water down their talking points lmao c'mon guys

[@mango1769]

2 questions I got to ask, 1 where did that "why do you love birds" audio come from because it is hilarious. And 2 when did they start using it?

[@blizzred2143]

Some people think Chivalry is being a Simp.

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

It's not corny but I'll definitely withhold it from the unworthy.

[@Kuwsh15]

5 real niggas that's real ice

[@omarseraj6654]

Joe: u know home millions are listening 🤔 Ice: No! u don't show us the numbers lol

[@flacko_jody2130]

It's not corny if its for your girl.. but now days females think shit is weird for no reason. Now they in the group chat saying you too nice😅

[@PapiKD]

If you was raised in the south chivalry is normal..but my first time in California and the east coast I noticed why dudes not like that out there..the women think you trying to flirt with them if you're being a gentleman I guess and they almost seem offended if you open the door for them

[@MrRegaldamc]

Its corny in Detroit the women call u desperate and give u weird looks... Unless u out with your date/gf

[@rellfree6400]

Detroit women are just like the men tho so it’s different

[@TeeWiggz10]

Chivalry was taught to me, but in today’s society chivalry is dead.

[@donnislee2594]

The curb rule is if she for sale or nah

[@IntheMidwithDom]

“My women are not confused”

[@YaNice117]

I'm not gone hold yall, that chivalry shit is overrated to me. Lol. Not saying that I haven't been chivalrous or done chivalrous things, but being over chivalrous is just too much for me. I will open doors to places, walk on the street side and make you feel safe. But you can open your own car door and I'm not pulling out your chair for you at the table. Lol. Maybe on a special occasion like an anniversary or some shit but that's it. I also don't think it should be demanded, but rather it should be organic.

[@bnvablickbang5645]

Walking on the outside means she free

[@sirgregorytaylor8971]

Why do I understand Joe. Lmao

[@wldfmsp]

I've had women in the past think i was trying to run game on them because i was raised to treat a woman respectfully. Or think i was trying to wife her down just because i was actually trying to get to know her. And wasn't talking about anything sexual. Smh

[@whoo17]

I not going out of my way. If it's there I'll open or hold the door.

[@Suburamo15]

I don't do chivalry cuz I don't do gender roles just the way women want it

[@louiethexiii1]

Parks is right with the “pot out the window” sidewalk thing

[@jamesbrookins1115]

Chivalry isn't corny, we have to bring it back. Simple ish.

[@kant5696]

Every woman doesn’t deserve chivalry. Obviously if its your girl/wife then yes. But i just observe how that woman acts and carries herself. Besides they’re strong and independent anyway. She dont need me😊

[@Suburamo15]

And having chivalry or being a gentlemen doesn't mean ur a good man either. Example Joe himself lmaoo

[@donnislee2594]

Unpacked the birth of the curb lmao

[@teveonkperkins]

I need Joe to find his queen

[@blackmcbain3145]

Joe scarf is just a hoodie he gave up on halfway

[@MrVenom973]

No it's not

[@dwaynecollins5099]

You are supposed to have your woman walk on the inside to indicate she's taken. Women that walk on the outside was because they were for hire. That's what I was always told.

[@Hellahellabandz]

I open doors just naturally I’ll even try to walk faster if me and a woman are both walking to the door I’ll out walk her to get to the door first just to open the door

[@mrhussain9008]

Only if she the main main.

[@MrGreg2403]

"Secure"...? She cheating lmao...

[@seroyalty1]

it's more so the fact that women expect from men what they refuse to reciprocate ...it's always what a man supposed to do for them like they're not their own person ...not to mention how all women do is put men down when they don't wanna cater to them ..women look at men as a way to make her life easier while his life gets harder but that's what "real men" do 😭😭😭 no ,,you get what you deserve ,feeling obligated because you're a woman

[@donnellhill75]

It's corny cuz women think it's corny.

[@Mayo2014]

Nah exes should stay what they are .. I’m COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT IM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH MY SHAWTYY BEING ON THE PHONE WITH HER EX … just kicking it lol nah I don’t like it …

[@Wifi_J]

I 30....Sorry bro but we barely even grew up hearing this word tbh

[@Del_116]

Chivalry and being a lady are both dead .. let’s be honest . These chicks tougher than cast iron

[@amanfinally20]

You shouldn’t need chivalry for you to be nice to people 😂 not just a woman. Y’all act like if a dude don’t pull a woman chair out or if he don’t walk on the side closer to the street he not a man. What type sense that make.

[@saad19140]

I call bullshit

[@FEMININISTA]

I defend chivalry, whoever doesn’t is instantly Corny. -Me.

[@AubreactionRSA]

You talking about Mac G.... Shame... Look that the numbers

[@SirAlmightyAllseeinjah718]

the pot out the window analogy is interesting; I see that a lot with white men and their women on the outside...so I guess that's their culture...

[@badazandy]

Yes Chivalry is corny! Majority of todays women want their cake and want to eat it too. It’s very very difficult to be chivalrous to aggressive women, and if you think being an alpha male to aggressive women will correct that, you ain’t met one. It’s going to be an argument instead of her settling for that respect you are giving her. These women who say they don’t need a man don’t take chivalry easily. It’s funny how women (and some of these corny men) believe that we as men are supposed to do the things of old while they change.

[@cousinskeeter3639]

Cant relate to a bunch of 50 year olds yall outta touch

[@steezyonyoutube9896]

Women like it but they don't care about what you like so. Do with that what you will

[@TARDIB]

No, but you and your music are

[@Boot-Cross]

Refuse to take chivalry advice from beta males

[@traceee1868]

What

[@moneymitchamp]

I’ve seen today’s fathers expect the daughters boyfriends to do all the chivalry acts that these fathers don’t or didn’t ever do with their mothers