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[@robdogd2495]

The Dean texting the Japanese kids was the funniest side story of any show I've seen

[@mickbanner]

Amazing

[@Brendissimo1]

Pretty excellent, though that was in season 6.

[@robdogd2495]

@@Brendissimo1 you are correct, but it's literally the first thing I think of when i see the dean. That plus the payday rap, peak comedy.

[@mickbanner]

@@Brendissimo1 I loved season 6. Frankie and Elroy are both amazing.

[@RadicalTadpoles1000]

@@mickbanner glad to know people liked season 6, personally I thought it was the second weakest season after 4. Arguably worse than 4

[@takewithfood]

Jim Rash playing Jeff was absolutely the highlight of the gas leak year for me.

[@HectorTWE]

Mine were Annie's reactions to him

[@pyrotechnic96]

Brie Larson as Rachel was great imo

[@JayOrDev]

That whole episode was one of my favorite in the whole show, but yeah most of season 4 was pretty lackluster.

[@TheJdkeyes]

That was Jim Rash who wrote that episode. Widely agreed to be the one bright spot in Season 4

[@adamdevlin4533]

imo the one line from the puppet ep - "I caused the Greendale Fire of 03"

[@SemenStainsMountTops]

16:55 Dan Harmon actually said on Harmontown that he kept pushing back revealing Jeff's father because he wanted Bill Murray to play his role

[@wvu05]

So, the character of Jeff was intended to be the son of the character from _Stripes?_ That's wrinkling my brain!

[@zoewynne8433]

That would have been magical, dammit... Parks & Rec got him instead!

[@whodatninja439]

well at least he got on Parks and Rec instead

[@MilesAway]

@@zoewynne8433 hey... parks deserved bill murray

[@brunogiambroni1422]

Jim Rash’s performance throughout the whole series was just so damn good. Such an underrated part of what made Community so fantastic

[@nms7872]

Especially in Documentary Filmmaking Redux AKA the episode where the Dean goes crazy

[@stephengrigg5988]

His rap was legendary acting

[@rparstar]

Season 4 is my least favourite season, but as many have said: even the worst of Community is better than a lot of other shows. Just based on the amazing cast and their undeniable chemistry.

[@ragnarokncc3137]

On rewatch, I think what struck me most was how much of Season 4 I had forgotten was in Season 4. There are rough spots, and places where the writers reach too hard, but honestly there are some classics in there. Plus, it's over quickly.

[@danoberman2183]

You are correct.

[@smarkslowplay3512]

It has two really good episodes though in Herstory of dance and basic human anatomy

[@dominicdannies7482]

6 was the worst the finale not included

[@charlieyes6423]

@@dominicdannies7482 The writing was better than season 4.

[@matthewhood7844]

Season 4 had a lot of good moments. I agree that Basic Human Anatomy was the highlight. I also really liked Pierce telling Jeff why he helped Britta at the end of the Sophie B. Hawkins dance episode.

[@smarkslowplay3512]

By far the two best episodes of the season

[@bigpoop146]

I actually rlly hate that britta side plot , especially pierce being the one who bailed her out, but abed's is kinda alright

[@stephengrigg5988]

That was honestly my favorite nice pierce moment. What he said was fair, and he actually came across as a father figure which I think is what Dan was working his way towards. Why couldn't more of his character been written like that in season 4?

[@artikagunathasan4040]

@@stephengrigg5988 I can answer that one. It’s because Chevy Chase was such a dick on set and hated being there, so they wrote him in less and less. It’s a shame.

[@stephengrigg5988]

@@artikagunathasan4040 I know about that. Despite being difficult you can't deny that the guy played a great part. And honestly, I don't really blame chevy. I watched a behind the scenes on one of the paintball episodes and one of the actors was saying how they were working 17 hour days. I can understand an older man being grouchy while working more than two doubles a day. And also dan Harmon is a bit of a dick too and i think their ego's combined made it a dick measuring contest

[@FawnGwynallen]

Joel McHale is literally a one-man Save Greendale Committee.

[@Katt1721]

I re-watched some of season 4 recently during the binge, and while its not without its solid moments, there's definitely an element of leaning too hard on their attempt at certain elements (like the meta humor or parody) without always asking "why" or having the same amount of heart. To me, that probably S4's biggest flaw over everything. There are also some weird character moments here and there that don't help. But looking back, I really can't be more grateful that it does exist, instead of the show getting axed along with Harmon. Even if it was kept on life support, it did stay alive.

[@kornobi_3165]

Katt1721 Great point! Without season four, we probably wouldn’t have five and six.

[@kornobi_3165]

And basic human anatomy was awesome.

[@kelnhide]

Season 4 is okay, but I had to skip a few episodes for trying too hard, specially the freaky friday episode.

[@Ryujin_IO]

Herstory of Dance deserves more credit and is probably overlooked simply because it was in season 4. But that episode for me could easily fit the first 3 seasons in terms of theme, heart and how grounded it was.

[@smarkslowplay3512]

Exactly. Reminded me a bit of S1's episode with Britta's prank gone wrong

[@sierra3644]

i agree, rachel was a really great character

[@ConnorDoubleYou]

My favourite Britta episode!

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

It was easily my favorite episode of that season and one of my favorite of the entire show's run. I agree that you could stick it in Season 1 or 2 and it would fit with no problem.

[@RafaCarrillo]

It's my favorite from this season, just so grounded, it really hits the tone from Season 1 that they never really returned to

[@DiegoSPaulino]

For me the problem with season 4 was when they tried to emulate Dan's approach to the serie. When they tried to do something different, like the more human and grounded episodes from the season 1, it was really cool.

[@sluggseulgi6828]

i totally agree. my personal favourite s4 episodes where the simpler ones when they focused more on the characters. i would say Herstory of dance or Heroic origins were quite enjoyable for that reason

[@sluggseulgi6828]

also basic human anatomy of course

[@mrqwerty005]

it took itself too seriously in this season. Harmon is so good in balancing absurdity and emotions. There are good episodes here and there but overall, without him season 4 became a confused mess.

[@movieace1295]

I think parts of season 3 got a little bit too weird and unbelievable .. to me the best episodes is where they do a parody but it's still somewhat grounded.. like the spaceship episode or the sailing boat...

[@blazehaze233]

The Sophie B. Hawkins episode is my favorite and the one where Britta helps Jeff reconcile with his dad

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

Yeah, those were definitely the highlights of the season.

[@edwardlawrence4428]

The prison break thing in Shirley’s basement was really enjoyable for me

[@l.pineda1576]

@@edwardlawrence4428 omg same

[@fightflicks4823]

SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE!!!!!!

[@musicfreak21]

This is the episode where we have to visit our divorced dad’s new family for the holidays.

[@1TutorialBoss]

A bad episode of community is still great TV to me.

[@MarioRossiAncora]

Season 4 is an interesting experiment to dissect if you're a writer. It's an amazing example of how you can have the same ingredients and end up with a very different dish. I recently rewatched it with a director friend of mine and we spent more time talking about the episode than watching them.

[@WhatsYourGhostStory]

This season gets way more hate than it deserves. It does 'feel' different than the other seasons, but there's still magic here. And that Malcolm McDowell Christmas episode really is Community at its best. I didn't even realize that happened in this episode.

[@itsreeya3708]

i agree! i absolutely loved some of the episodes like paranormal parentage, herstory of dance, basic human anatomy, and heroic origins (that one's an unpopular opinion). but the very fact that I listed four rewatchable episodes out of thirteen, is telling. these episodes were only special because the characters made it so, not necessarily the production or writing.

[@WhatsYourGhostStory]

@@itsreeya3708 YES! Paranormal Parentage is a great Halloween episode! And Herstory of Dance is really so much fun (very sweet moment at the end between Jeff & Britta, Pierce even gets to be a positive mentor with a nice speech too AND Brie Larson & Abed? So much good!). Basic Human Anatomy is a very sweet episode.

[@nickv1212]

I'm guessing all of these cast reunions and interviews are a way for the cast and potential crew to gauge interest for a movie for Netflix to back. I think it's happening guys. After Covid clears up, I doubt anybody's gonna be booked for too much, though I'm guessing the things they were already attached to might wanna resume or pick back up faster. Idk when we'll see it but we're gonna see it.

[@davidfromsouthpark9023]

Cant wait for Season 5 and them talking about Vince Gilligan guest appearance

[@veryneatguy-838]

Honestly I kinda liked season 4. I didn’t think it was bad until I watched season 5 and is was obviously much better

[@wordyblerd7723]

Season 4 is so unfairly criticized. You can't tell me it's not better than Season 6 which I also liked and am impressed by since they lost so many characters. The Thanksgiving ep they mentioned with Jeff's dad and Shirley's home life was literally one of the best of the entire series. They were so funny. I love these videos!

[@SergioOsvaldoVA]

C. R. S. For me S6 is the most forgettable, except for that amazing finale.

[@wordyblerd7723]

@@SergioOsvaldoVA Yeah the finale was great.

[@hidayatkhan412]

100 percent agreed

[@rhyswiland1027]

Dan wanted Bill Murray for Jeff's dad.

[@JoeSelf1982]

Jim's episode is easily one of my favorite episodes. The ending wrecked me with the break up of Britta and Troy/Abed. And Jim was on the last episode of FRIENDS and absolutely stole his scene!

[@natalyamartirosyan]

omg! he was so good in the plane scene! "oh my god this plane doesn't even have a phalange!!!"

[@Lok15]

Jim was also in that 70s show and brooklyn 99, if there is a godfather of sit-coms jim rash would probably it

[@David73490MY]

If I hadn't read that Dan left for that seasons I wouldn't have noticed honestly... some amazing episodes! especially the last one with all the timelines... !

[@eggmeboy]

if you didn't understand Britta/troy, you didn't follow the seeds being planted from all the seasons prior. they deserved so much more than what s4 did to them, they were sweet and wholesome and I will always be pressed about it

[@SCharlesDennicon]

What seeds ? Where ? ^^; The dance episode ?

[@KiaboyZ]

@@SCharlesDennicon Season 3 definitely teases that they'll get together a few times. I think one of these is the hugging plotline and their long hug at the end of the Documentary Filmmaking: Redux episode. They also show how much Troy cares about Britta in Origins of Vampire Mythology, when Troy pretends to text Britta as her ex, and Britta realizes this at the end. It's also hinted at in The First Chang Dynasty, when Troy gives up and joins the AC repair school. There may be others that I'm forgetting.

[@Atlasfilms08]

Kia it’s also hinted at in Remedial Chaos Theory.

[@mlv1570]

Such wasted potential 😭

[@whodatninja439]

I didnt like the pairing, and i did follow the seeds.

[@caroljeeben7064]

I think you guys did a great job with the discussion here. Thank you for not asking about the obvious behind the scenes feuds that you can tell they never want to answer. Although we all want to know the details, it's been such a long time since and it was interesting to hear a casual conversation about it.

[@Rehayel]

i still enjoyed the season and it shows to you how great the show is because it kept standing while dan not there. and shows how the actors and characters are perfect.

[@anarchistcatowner]

the puppet episode still haunts me in my dreams

[@Nothing_Israel]

The problem with the puppet episode was that unlike paint ball, or musical, or claymation, the puppets weren't part of the story, there was no reason for them and so it felt like an empty gimmick.

[@anarchistcatowner]

@@Nothing_Israel yes, also it was creepy!!!

[@Seppeman753951]

I liked it actually. I can sort of agree with Jay in that there should have been a better reason for the puppets to be there. Nevertheless, that episode was a highlight of the season for me.

[@angelbyshaggy]

@@Nothing_Israel also all the stuff they confessed was super out of character

[@parisye1337]

Yeah that episode felt the most forced to me

[@marshmallowPillows]

I didn't realize Jim wrote that episode. Honestly, I was thinking back to S4 and that episode is the reason I wouldn't tell someone to skip the season.

[@Prismdub]

*The Dean holding up two kittens* "and these two guys are Jeffrey!" in the Bottle Episode tag

[@keisha2120]

but season 4 still holds up, hanging there made up for season 5 and 6, so ill always be grateful for it. bringing also Dan back brought that magic back is awesome so s4 is the special one

[@keisha2120]

I dont make a lot of sense here cause I just woke up 😅

[@Thragdain]

After rewatching the series for the 3rd time (I had considered skipping 4), I think season 4 was the weakest but still pretty good overall. Didn't like the last 2 episodes though (heroic origins and darkest timeline dimension teleporting finale). The people who were asked to take Dan's place were stuck in a tough spot and I think they did a decent job in a kinda lose-lose situation where they could only upset people by changing things too much or trying and failing to imitate Dan.

[@smarkslowplay3512]

Agreed, many liked Heroic Origins for whatever reason. Was just a lame backstory finding imo

[@edwardlawrence4428]

Thragdain I really hated history 101 and no one really talks about it. It’s probably my least favourite episode of the series. I think season 4 starts rough, finds its footing and then tries too hard again.

[@tz6035]

I actually liked the troy and britta pairing, it was hinted at in the first two seasons, and in season 3 it was really clear that they were getting together. Season 4 just wasted the potential of that relationship, and ended it because they had no idea what else to do with them. I like to think that Dan Harmon would have done something better with it

[@Schubert34]

I totally agree, seasons 1-3 really slowly worked on that pairing and season 4 totally bombed it. top two biggest regrets in my opinion of the show

[@adamcomstock6781]

@@Schubert34 What's the other one?

[@SCharlesDennicon]

I absolutely disagree. First of all, their pairing didn't work because by season 4, Troy was basically an asexual creature who didn't exist apart from Abed. In season 1, when he was much more, well, real, it could have worked, but even by season 2, his interest for women was becoming very... unclear (take a look at the librarian subplot in Early 19th romanticism). Secondly, season 1 was all about the pairing of Jeff with Britta, and if someone was infatuated with Troy, it was Annie. There was no hint. So, yeah, the morons who ran season 4 didn't do anything interesting with it, but it was doomed anyway, imo.

[@tz6035]

@@SCharlesDennicon I thought it was sort of a build up. I believe it was in season 1 and 2 that they danced together in that recital and they also bonded in that theater class where they had to talk about feelings. Season 3 was much more clear about them getting together. In the episode when Blade, Britta's ex shows up, Troy is the only one who's nice to Britta. He is the only one who keeps saying that she is the best. I don't know, I always thought they were cute, and season 4 didn't do anything with them.

[@obalobaloo]

It was really cool that Moby decided to do this!

[@DumbOzymandias]

Troy and Britta was teased since season 1 and I feel like the Season 4 didn’t do it justice unfortunately.

[@maxgraysax]

Am I the only one who loved Intro to Knots m, Advanced Documentary Filmmaking, and Advanced Introduction to Finality?

[@kornobi_3165]

Max Gray I’ll give you advanced documentary. Good episode.

[@numbo655]

I really liked Intro to Knots and Intro to Felt Surrogacy

[@l.pineda1576]

i didn't really like advanced documentary filmmaking, i felt like they were trying too hard

[@HectorTWE]

Basic Human Anatomy and Herstory of Dance are the only episodes from S04 I feel are worthy of being held at the same level of deference as the good episodes of the rest of the series. Herstory especially felt rather grounded and heartfelt, something that S04 seemed to completely lack.

[@numbo655]

What about intro to felt surrogacy? And intro to knots?

[@jesperfuglsang]

There were other highlights of season 4 I think. "Heroic Origins" I think might even top "Basic Human Anatomy". Personally I think the problem with season 4 (beside the lost of Dan) was that the season was too short. Looking back at it the season got better and better as it progressed. The last three episodes are differently the strongest and that could easily have kept up the momentum - I think! "Herstory of Dance" is actually a great episode as well!

[@thedreamisstilldead]

Season 4 is not "bad" TV. It's just not up to the standards of seasons 1-3. What strikes me on rewatching it is how much S4 tries to repeat jokes from S1-3, almost like the writers were trying not to break the show but feared doing anything dramatically different.

[@nikolaikochukov5129]

It might make me basic, but I loved the Appletinni moment

[@ericdelmonaco8021]

Joel left game of thrones out of the list of shows that needed its original show runners to stay good I saw that

[@soralink411]

I never really understood it I guess i'm not a big TV critic, nor am I an actor/writer so I don't have the fortay to really tell the difference, but Season 4 did not really feel a whole lot different. I could agree with saying its the weakest Season due to Chevy having one foot out the door, but I had a lot of laughs, and it followed the over the top ridiculousness of season 3. The guess it was the beginning of the end as even after the return of Dan it was clear the show was not going to last a whole lot longer, but for me that does not change a whole lot, and I thought it was funny.

[@12345678abracadabra]

A lot of people felt inconsistencies with tone, character, and theme. The puppet episode was like the claymation episode except there was no real character purpose for it. S4 felt like a fan who truly did their best to recreate a season but ultimately didn't have them vision Dan had.

[@TheJFGB93]

@@12345678abracadabra I imagine those details are more pronounced when one is heavily invested in the show or when rewatching it, but when I watched it I felt very much like @Campbell about it, since I was only watching it to have some fun and didn't know about the behind the scenes stuff.

[@DARKELITE3000]

I could see why somebody enjoyed season four. It’s still had funny punchlines. But that was it. It didn’t have any of the creative elements, it really didn’t have very much heart, and it felt like the characters had no direction. But it always had funny punchlines and that’s one thing I’ll give season four. But that’s not much compared to the other seasons.

[@DA-nk6gx]

I like season 4. It had heart and creativity but ultimately there was a change in the writer's room without Dan. Dan has a very unique voice as a writer that is simply hard to recreate. Still good, I just wonder what it would have been with Dan.

[@MsBayley]

The characters became stereotypes of who they were in 1-3. Annie all of a sudden is obsessed with Jeff and that is basically her character that whole season. Troy and Britta’s relationship is terribly written and rushed. Dean becomes just a gay stereotype more than ever. There is honestly no comparison between the writing in 1-3 and season 4 EDIT keep in mind season 4 is still an ok season but 1-3 are amazing while season 4 is just a meh season of television

[@smarkslowplay3512]

Good job on this fellas!

[@MysterySteve]

One of my favourite Dean costumes was the black and white one

[@yourjunes]

Jim Rash was the main reason I kept coming back after losing Yvette and Donald.

[@lambert2332]

AND JESUS WEPT!

[@Schubert34]

I wonder if the season 4 showrunners and writers have ever talked about the show? The cast and crew have basically all agreed that season 4 was not all there in terms of characterization/writing and I wonder if the season 4 showrunners have ever acknowledged that.

[@kyleellis1825]

Pretty much from the get go they said it wasn't gonig to be the same but they'd do their best.

[@PeterLinder66]

At 23:57, the video incorrectly labels "Basic Human Anatomy" as the series finale, "Emotional Consequences of Broadcast Television."

[@genesis1720ify]

To me I think one of the reasons why the gas leak season didn’t quite work, besides the obvious fact that Dan Harmon wasn’t running it, and why it felt off, was because the first three seasons had built a momentum. Each episode continued to push the envelope in terms of “how crazy can this get?” Especially from the beginning of S2 to the end of S3, it felt like the writers kept trying to one up the last episode before it. With S4, there wasn’t really an improvement, it was just trying to steady the waters and survive. When S5 came around, Dan and the previous writers brought those solid hits with the ACB, the Polygraph, and Lava episodes. Whenever Dan did slow down the show, it was for solid character stories like Troy’s birthday or Hickey locking Abed up for destroying his cartoon drawings when Troy is gone.

[@naomipdey7732]

23:56 - It's not Emotional Consequences of Broadcast Television, it's Basic Human Anatomy but still pretty great video. You two are amazing interviewers for sure.

[@topbackpodcast2615]

I think the most disappointing thing about Season 4 is the fact that it is arguably the most important year for Jeff’s character and Dan had no say in it....I always remembered Dan saying that he originally wanted Community to be a 4 season series with each season representing each year until Jeff’s Graduation from Greendale and the fact that he had to Repilot the series with Season 5 was just him doing damage control....he was able to regain some of the rhythm back with Season 5 but the damage had already been done. The most important storylines including Jeff meeting his father and his graduation was taken away from him and I’m sure it is Dans biggest regret. He could’ve ended the series on a high note instead of forcing storylines with Season 5 and 6

[@image_worlds]

Maybe he should've thought about it before acting like a complete asshat on set, resulting in his firing?

[@topbackpodcast2615]

That’s why I said I’m sure he regrets it

[@ItsTheFizz]

Ah, yes... The "Elephant In The Room" season...

[@willknight3516]

Besides basic human anatomy, I think intro to knots is another highlight for me

[@robertoarsenal9044]

Season 4 had several hidden gems. Herstory of dance and intro to knots

[@numbo655]

Yes intro to knots! I also liked intro to felt surrogacy

[@BopNiblets]

Jim Rash is overpowered.

[@jasonalangriffin]

Loving Joel’s shirt!

[@MrIknoweverything101]

Freaky Friday was a beautiful episode inside a not so pretty season.

[@cnj5599]

I liked a few episodes but I liked certain aspects. When I talk to people about the show, I always tell them about how they have one class that is based on the history of ice Cream. The "musical" episode was done well, but was still missing something. Advanced Introduction to Finality was cool to have the "dark timeline" characters come in. I loved Brie Larson's character, I wish they could have done more with her.

[@jeffreyschueler2223]

Season four had some good episodes. I like the Halloween episode and Jim's episode was one o the best of the whole series.

[@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460]

The Freaky Friday episode is the only one I LOVED in Season 4. It was brilliantly written, acted and filmed.

[@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460]

#SixSeasonsAndAMovie *#AndAMovie**!!!*

[@axelacosta7603]

This is great guys, i love Community #SixSeasonsAndAMovie

[@julioagua]

The only episode I liked on season four was "Heroic Origins", it's one of my favorites, in fact.

[@bramibrahim1090]

I can't really explain what is different with season 4. It's just feel different. What I found in trying to explain s4 is that: In other seasons, the story is more grounded but the jokes are more absurd. In s4, the story is bit mroe absurd and the jokes are more grounded. It doesn't make sense, I know. Still working on it.

[@whodatninja439]

Season 3 was equally absurd. It had Chang as a dictator taking over the school with an army of kids... And it started the darkest timeline plot.

[@enk621]

It's the writing. It just felt flat.

[@sadeed22]

Season 4 Episode 11 was Basic Human Anatomy. Emotional Consequences of Broadcast Television was the last episode of the show.

[@AlexisCoooper]

AND A MOVIE!!!!!!!

[@queenmonika-plays119]

I was one of those people that didn't hate it but it wasn't terrible but it did felt a little off. The Dean was the best character on the show.

[@mellownisty]

Joel Mchale is the lead of the show but as he often plays the straight man to the insane antics of the incredibly talented ensemble, you forget how incredibly good and funny he is playing Joel. My favorite scene of his was the axe table murderer scene. Jim rash was also another person who perfected the essence of his character; my favorite scene of his was probably the rap or when he gives Joel cans of olives. This show is unique for me in that the large majority of the lines and actions are things the characters would say and do. The comedy mostly comes from their characters purely being themselves or reacting to situations and each other. I think in season 4, the dialogue and actions seemed like an imitation of the characters, so a lot of comedy didn’t land. It became a generic network tv comedy. But there were moments elevated because of the talented cast. It’s baffling to me how a show with one of the best ensembles in comedy history and one of the best comedy writers could have so much trouble staying on air. How bad do you have to be at your job as network execs to let such a gem go?

[@vmann79]

To Me, The season Finale was the worst! The only redeeming quality of that episode was Jeff's Heartfelt Speech about his Greendale family. It gets me every time!!😢🤧

[@numbo655]

Am I the only one who also liked Intro to Felt Surrogacy and Intro to Knots?

[@princeofpersia410]

Everywhere I look I see Community, I'm so excited is fucking scary. Would you please announce it already!

[@vfxstar7019]

14:24 ; Yesss lolll

[@smsalinas]

In retrospect, Season 4 was not that bad! There were some great moments and episodes like the Sophie B. Hawkins dance, Annie and Shirley’s senioritis, the Freaky Friday episode and revisiting the foosball Germans. The low points were the puppet and the sitcom episode. And I don’t even remember how the Malcolm McDowell Christmas episode ended.

[@alexanderm.2845]

you Should try to get Ludwig on! The spectacular Swedish composer who did a lot of the music for the show!

[@stars911tx]

How is the Payday costume not the first one costume mentioned?!

[@abetterdae1234]

My personal ranking would be 2,1,3,5,4 and 6. Season 6 suffered due to Troy not being there. But the finale was just a beautiful masterpiece.

[@goodfellabeats]

I would say 3, 2, 1, 5, 6, and 4. Season 1 got me hooked but the following 2 seasons is when the show really found its sweet spot in my opinion.

[@kyleellis1825]

For me it goes 1, 2, 6, 4, 3, 5.

[@gilgoh1122]

Pop! POP! Is a hall of famer in the greatest catchphrases of all time.

[@paulonius42]

Season 4 is more enjoyable/less awful on rewatching, and also because you know seasons 5 and 6 are there to correct course for the show. If season 4 were the end, it would be rotten, but as an in-between season, it's fun. B-

[@jennterry6977]

Also didn't think season 4 was terrible. I thought it was pretty funny. Plus there was really good reason for Dan being let go and them just whining about his not being there when he was really in a bad place and had hurt people that worked there behind the scenes just seems tone deaf.

[@robertgerow670]

I'm re-watching community for the first time since it aired and I expected to hate season 4. I really liked it this time. Just me?

[@kelnhide]

I’ve always liked season 4, not as good as when Dan was on the show, but still good.

[@engladtur]

No man. Season 4 is absolute fine!

[@numbo655]

I like the second half but not really the first half.

[@dimitreze]

season 4 is better than 5 and 6 people say it's bad because they want to show they know Dan Harmon wasn't the showrunner

[@SergioOsvaldoVA]

dimitreze I totally agree!

[@puddleglump8654]

Season 5 is one of my favorite seasons the meyow meyow beans episode is one of the best episodes of tv. 4 lacks any creativity and everyone just seems bored

[@hidayatkhan412]

4 and 5 were good enough, 6 was mediocre

[@kylemccormack1785]

Yeah, Season 4 is fine. Y'all are nuts.

[@misterairborne654]

I think given that Season 4 has pretty much been retconned to be a season where "some gas leak happened that made everyone act really weird," it in a way acts as a parody of Community, where everything is still very similar, the lighting, the music, the cast, the sets, and references, but it lacks what made Community so great. And so when you reach Season 5, and Repilot has to pick up the pieces of Season 4, it opens up with a series of incredibly intelligent and witty conversations and interactions to remind you that what really makes this show great are the characters and the dialogue. And especially when you get to Season 6, where the budget has been greatly reduced, and a lot of the main cast members had left by that point, the writing still remains strong, and I don't think I would've been able to appreciate that aspect of the show as much without showing what Community would be like without what it made it so great.

[@tweakerofknobs]

I think season 4 gets less credit than it deserves. I'm sure the cast felt the difference of Dan leaving but when I watched it back in the day, it felt as good as any season tbh. All the writers were same and they did a pretty good job without Harmon. 1-2 bad episodes don't make the whole season bad. Just saying.

[@parisye1337]

am I the only one who hated the laugh tracks in the season premiere? I know it was supposed to be a parody but it just felt annoying

[@ironisa6535]

Ugh same i couldn’t stand it!

[@silverkyre]

I dont mind laugh tracks in say, friends. But i didnt like the premiere. I felt like they didnt do a good job of making a laugh track sitcom parody. And it was just a parody of it with no affection toward that kid of sit com and i hated the laugh track everytime it came on. There was nothing clever about it. Just "sitcom with laugh tracks laugh at things that arent funny" was the joke every time.

[@markshaffer6447]

I just watched season 6 on Netflix. I love this show but hadn't followed the show since it went to Yahoo. While there is a lot to say about this season, I just cannot wrap my head around the decision to have Jeff & Annie end up "together" when just one season ago Jeff was engaged to Britta... the show started with Jeff's interest in Britta, it should have ended with that going full-circle (maybe this will be a theme for the movie)

[@micahcantu5905]

Jeff and Britta isn’t a healthy relationship and Britta is into Troy which we can presume will return if there is a movie

[@silverkyre]

That episode where he was engaged to Britta. It was very clear they didnt want each other. They only decided to get married or reached for each other when things are going badly. And ends with Jeff realizing he loves Annie and the door opens because of his love for Annie. His "Blast of human passion" is for her which is why he quickly looks away so no one will know. Its also a terrible idea for them to. Britta and him to end up togther when they have never shown romantic love for each other, Just because thats where it started. Jeff admited his love for Annie after having it confirmed it the previous season finale. Seems more fitting.

[@xJamesArthur]

They pulled Advanced DnD from all streaming services! Please discuss

[@Tasmin94Whoop]

For my turn, I pity Netflix.

[@wvu05]

Season four was not the best, but if you compare the decline of season four of _Community_ to season four of _Arrested Development_ (which, imo, had a superior first three seasons, but the lows were lower after that), it could have turned out a lot worse.

[@mcglubski]

Season 4 is okay. There are a few terrible episodes for sure but it's not that awful Also lol Joel named dropped Vampire Diaries? Haha did not expect that

[@SergioOsvaldoVA]

I prefer S4 than S6.

[@GuardianOwl]

Sometimes true, sometimes not. On the first season of the new X-files incarnation I found the two Chris Carter written episodes were by far the worst of the bunch.

[@TheJFGB93]

He got too lost in the mythology of the show, instead of what made it enjoyable. The other writers usually made those two seasons work at some level. I wonder what Vince Gilligan would have written if he had not been busy with Better Call Saul (but I'm not complaining).

[@clarapilier]

Dean, dean, dean.

[@laurenscott4802]

Hi

[@christophergarrett7082]

We all know why green dale keeping running out of money dean outfits were on point.

[@Pyke_]

We all know season 4 is the worst but you guys were really unfair saying that just one episode of this season is good. This season has other good episodes too like "Alternative History of the German Invasion" that shows the study group in a brand new perspective and "Herstory of Dance", that did a good job showing that "Britta is the worst" behaviour needed to slow down a bit. In this episode we also have the first appearance of Brie Larson, she is one of the good aspects of season 4.

[@Ampa22ju]

I like history of dance

[@pledgestone]

I hated the Troy Britta pairing. I liked Season 4. I loved the characters so much, I was happy to see them.

[@thisjustin6529]

Six seasons and a movie.

[@patrickryan1462]

Abed is the guy

[@hisiri4012]

Season 4 is still better than 6th season. Anyone who hates season 4 is a diehard Dan Harmon stan.

[@Rodanguirus]

I don't hate Season 4, but Season 6 is pretty easily my favorite of the back half.

[@clauditorium]

Aside from feeling off-brand, the other main problem with season 4 is very simple: a lot of it just wasn't funny or interesting. This is how I rank the episodes: very good: 407 Herstory of Dance 410 Basic Human Anatomy 403 Paranormal Parentage pretty good: 409 Intro to Knots 405 Cooperative Escapism in Familial Relations 413 Intro to Felt Surrogacy 402 Alternative History of the German Invasion meh: 401 History 101 bad: 412 Heroic Origins 408 Advanced Documentary Filmmaking 406 Economics of Marine Biology 411 Advanced Introduction to Finality 404 Conventions of Space and Time Overall, it's not devoid of value. But it was a huge step down from the first three seasons. No other season of Community has such a low ratio of good-to-bad episodes.

[@gwynieboy7488]

You got a lot of those episode numbers wrong

[@clauditorium]

@@gwynieboy7488 I didn't get any of them wrong. The episodes didn't air in the order of their numbers, especially in season 4. You can look on Wikipedia if you want to verify that.

[@gwynieboy7488]

clauditorium oh sorry I didn’t realise. Although I definitely think “Advanced Introduction to Finality” is supposed to be the finale, hence the word “finality”

[@clauditorium]

@@gwynieboy7488 Yes, it's the finale. But they completed production on it before the puppet episode, and that's how the numbers are determined.

[@jessicasoares466]

Advanced clip showing 101

[@eeehhhhhheee4976]

anyone think derek looks like the shame wizard from big mouth

[@kenek629]

Omds YESS!

[@gerardevans2668]

Still upset how they ruined Britta and Troy relationship