You will throw your die handles away after you watch this !!!

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Joe Pie

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@robingibson7503
@robingibson7503 5 жыл бұрын
I was a land surveyor 40 years and used precision instruments. Always wondered how they were made and considered taking a machine shop class to learn. Watching your videos is a real education. Thank you much!!!
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@larrysperling8801
@larrysperling8801 5 жыл бұрын
another informative video lesson from prof joe. as some of our youtube creators have been moving towards infomercials and less towards machining you continue to stay the course. thanks joe. beautiful bike.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive comment.
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to make such a die-holder for the last ten years. Maybe this year, haha. Thanks for sharing, always enjoy your videos and opinion Joe!
@IBWatchinUrVids
@IBWatchinUrVids 5 жыл бұрын
Strange how often I run into you in the comments :) **wave**
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Stefan, thanks for stopping by. This is a good little tool for the box. Make the time.
@ariesmars29
@ariesmars29 5 жыл бұрын
Several months ago I finished making a die holder for the mini lathe. It is 2 sided, one side fits round die and the other side I press fitted a hex holder into it. It was a bit of work and took time as I only worked on it and hour or two a month. Also, I made a morse taper #2 for the tailstock to hold the die holder. It was a rewarding project.
@coburnlowman
@coburnlowman 5 жыл бұрын
Wish I'd watched this 20 years ago. I worked as a machinist for a company who serviced industrial sewing machines. I've threaded thousands of remade off the wall looking screws , but I'd always use a single point over a die because of all the issues you brought up. 👍
@ralphf8951
@ralphf8951 5 жыл бұрын
Floating die holder is the way to go! Thanks for all the time you dedicate to these great lessons.
@johnthayjr4237
@johnthayjr4237 4 жыл бұрын
My Father taught me way back 51 years ago that the only thing thread dies were good for was chasing threads out in the field . We have the lathes in the shop use them .
@terrym1979
@terrym1979 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You Joe, Though my grandfather was an old school Master machinist. He was not around long enough to teach me all of his incredible skills. Pretty much just learned how to safely run the lathe and mill. Finding your educational videos has helped me immensely. Now I have a New tool to build. Again Thank You
@rickbrandt9559
@rickbrandt9559 5 жыл бұрын
Key board WARRIORS abound, as one scrolls down. Thanks Joe for your time!!
@jeffreyrood8755
@jeffreyrood8755 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a machinist, but I just bought a nice set of tap and dies second hand and I'm getting some minor rust off of them now. I got them for $15 just in case sometime I needed to repair or make something work. My dad and I had a small MOTORCYCLE, (loved the end of your vid with the bike) and he never thought me the details of the way to use these. So glad I found this to teach me the proper use of these tools. You're a master teacher as well as knowing your stuff about machining. Grade "A" THANK YOU!
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@edwardswinesburg877
@edwardswinesburg877 3 жыл бұрын
Nice idea. If I need a perfect, straight thread on a piece of work, I usually chase it on my lathe. I have used dies in a holder and had drunken threads. Usually the dies are not for precise work.
@ianmsutherland512
@ianmsutherland512 5 жыл бұрын
I never stop learning my trade watching your tutorials Joe! Your shop is about 5 miles from my house. I wouldn't mind coming to check it out. I've been machining for 15 years and trying to learn as much as possible.
@irishwristwatch7544
@irishwristwatch7544 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I knew this in the past, and that I was able to use such a device, but a few days ago I had to cut a thread on a piece, where the tread was followed by an od of just 1mm more (aluminum) and the problem was, that the die always "gripped" onto the chamfer... I ended up stopping the lathe 2mm before that critical part and cut the rest by spinning the chuck carefully by hand... Your Cardboard trick is genius, I imagine it would be even better if you use a "credit card thick" plastic (especially for aluminum) Thank you :)
@532bluepeter1
@532bluepeter1 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Joe, thank you for another good video. I am a jobbing carpenter and a hobby machinist so I mention this not for your benefit as that would really be telling Grandma how to suck eggs but for those who are watching. On my very small lathe I often struggled to grip stock sufficiently to use my tailstock die holder. The part would often slip in the three jaw. At the time I had no collet chuck. I therefore took to using hexagonal stock when using the die holder and turning the rest of the component after the thread was formed. Hex' stock can not slip in the three jaw chuck.
@christaylor528
@christaylor528 5 жыл бұрын
Yet another “why didn’t I think of that” moment, thanks Joe I’ll make one tomorrow.
@billcooley5527
@billcooley5527 5 жыл бұрын
Its was great to talk with you at the Bash. Really fun to see you greet your many fans. I love the straight forward instructional style of your videos. Thanks Joe Pie
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
I am truly flattered by the support. It was great to meet all of you as well.
@tubester4567
@tubester4567 5 жыл бұрын
I use a very similar system but I dont have a lathe. I use it in the drill press.
@theonlybuzz1969
@theonlybuzz1969 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, over here in the UK and majority of our dies being metric are without the split for adjusting the thread to be tight or baggy, rule of thumb we go by is that 99% of manufacturers etch the lead in side having the thread size information on that side. That’s one we remember, keep the good work going as we enjoy your shows....Phil
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil.
@IAN-ev8qz
@IAN-ev8qz Жыл бұрын
Always found the lead on a die is the same side as the size inscription
@hugostiglitz2388
@hugostiglitz2388 5 жыл бұрын
Well, you learn something every day. Being a machinist/toolmaker for some 45 years, I have to admit the narrator is spot on with his handmade tool and what a great idea this is. Dies and die stocks are but a quick fix and will result in a poor thread if the die is not started dead square and never an easy thing to do. You're best using them just to extend an existing thread or perhaps dressing up a damaged area of thread.
@raymondmarteene7047
@raymondmarteene7047 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe, My tailstock die holder has a shaft with a MT2 on one end that fits in the tailstock so you don’t have to use a drill chuck. BTW getting some popcorn to read the comments, quite amusing being outside the US and looking in 😂😂😂 Cheers
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Saw the saying on a bumper sticker this week. I thought it was spot on.
@raymondmarteene7047
@raymondmarteene7047 5 жыл бұрын
A wise man said “we squint at the sun because it’s bright, but we squint at people because their not” 😂😂😁
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 Are you saying that Trump is a clown? Do I have that spot on?
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
@@FieryWACO Tell us what part of the country you live in.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
@@FieryWACO Why is it, everyone immediately associates the words Clown and Elect with Trump. 252 comments and not one of you asked what it means.
@ddcd53
@ddcd53 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I enjoyed it. I drive a 2002 vtx 1800 to work every day for the last seven years. I've gone to work on it in 23 degrees cold at 90 mph more than once. It's been in 40 mph gusts with lightning and rain and never missed a beat. It has never not started one time since I've had it and never left me on the road even while needing to change the feul pump. It has carried my miller STL 150 amp tig , stick welding machine to work more times than you can imagine. And the machine won't even budge from the bike even at 100 mph. I was forced to ride on some flooded roads where the muffler was under water and it still didn't stop. The Harley guys laugh when they see me with the welding machine on the back seat, but they are laughing from way behind me as it smokes them. Thanks for the vid. Dan
@neiljohnson9686
@neiljohnson9686 2 жыл бұрын
You know I watch A lot of these type of videos, and and I always wind up rolling my eyes because of the way people deliver the information… Either they’re trying to be some sort of “character “or I just can’t stand them… You’ve got it perfect. I can listen to you and learn things without feeling insulted if that makes any sense. I appreciate it
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that.
@TheArcWelder
@TheArcWelder Жыл бұрын
what the hell are you even talking about? I want an example of a similar type content show where the host is doing what you claim.
@mecee4516
@mecee4516 5 жыл бұрын
Joe, Joe, Joe.... you can't show us such a lovely bike without letting us hear it purr, now that's just a tease! Great video, once again, and yet another usefull tool to make for the tool box. Thank you for sharing your experience and wisdom Joe, much appreciated.
@jeffryblackmon4846
@jeffryblackmon4846 5 жыл бұрын
Just when I'm getting bike riding out of my system, this beauty comes along.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
This is the 2nd one I've owned. if they release a 3rd, I'll buy that one too. This bike is perfect. Honda VTX 1800 F Spec 2.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Sabatino I'll work it in soon. Stick around.
@h1aa
@h1aa 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the day you could buy split dies with guide collets. They gave excellent results but just don't seem to be available new now. Available 2nd hand on ebay or in shops dealing with old tools. Grand old names like Greenfield and Little Giant and others.
@johndonlan5956
@johndonlan5956 3 жыл бұрын
Joe I think this is one of your best videos! You had some great suggestions on how to keep the die square to the axis of rotation. That's something that always plagued me whenever I had to use a die..... I would just sort of feel my way through, trying to keep it straight - but very seldom accomplishing that successfully. And that procedure for running a finished thread right up to the shoulder..... That's just brilliant!
@markgearing
@markgearing 4 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing the fuzzed out box reads “Elect a clown”.
@dougberrett8094
@dougberrett8094 5 жыл бұрын
Been using a slight variation of the floating holder since 1972. 1.5 inch diameter aluminum, knurled with a 1/2 inch diameter through hole. One end takes round dies the other hex. The clutch is my hand. Just let go when the end is reached.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Riding a drill chuck mounted guide pin. I like that style. Great feel using that.
@hyperhektor7733
@hyperhektor7733 5 жыл бұрын
that is nice for plastic and small diameter threads but as soon you go slightly bigger in metal (like 3/8" = 10 mm and bigger) the forces can become dangerous to your fingers, i speak from experience sind i tried a similar method.
@StuartsShed
@StuartsShed Жыл бұрын
After watching the video and learning to thread with the tool upside down and running away from the headstock I am a lot more comfortable single pointing threads now, but there is a definite case for having this floating die tool - a lot more simple than some of the "clutched" tailstock die holder designs and just as good.
@Dwarfracer88
@Dwarfracer88 5 жыл бұрын
With taps and dies after the newly cut threads start to self feed on to or into the work DO NOT push the cutter into the work as you can over cut the thread. Also when you are removing the cutter let the threads push the cutter off of the work DO NOT pull the tap or die for the same reason. I know most everybody that watches Joe knows this, but there might be somebody that doesn't.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Solid advice.
@rtkville
@rtkville 5 жыл бұрын
I also have been planing to make one of these die holders but for some reason this project always seems to get shoved to the back burner but your video has refreshed my desire to get it done. Thanks for another great video!
@dolata000
@dolata000 5 жыл бұрын
If I owed you a beer for every useful tip you've taught me you'd own a share of a brewery by now. :)
@billyjack8119
@billyjack8119 3 жыл бұрын
I'll drink to that
@normcameron2316
@normcameron2316 5 жыл бұрын
Love the hollow/floating die holder. What simple genius. Your comment of hating to run a die preferring to cut with a single point tool, I have a different perspective. Using old manual machines, usually threads are about the last operation on a work piece so I rough out the thread with a single point tool and finish with a die. Starts everything nice and square, takes a pile of load off the die and saves me overshooting the precision cuts. Thanks for the show.
@martineastburn3679
@martineastburn3679 5 жыл бұрын
The screw is there to make the die smaller for a 90 or 100 % thread. Most threads are 80% deep. Some hard materials might need to start at 60 and work up.
@christophermcmurray9226
@christophermcmurray9226 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I've been looking for a video like this forever! Everytime I use a die nut, it never turns out exactly how I want, this helps a ton!
@blindtrace7220
@blindtrace7220 5 жыл бұрын
Always worth my time. Cool bike...for a cruiser.
@ChrisB257
@ChrisB257 5 жыл бұрын
Quite agree with many of your observations... good many things I have found that help over the years. I often point cut first and run a die round thread to finish - plus, rarely use a die for course thread - way too hard! I made my own tailstock die holder long ago which of course maintains axial truth - at least for a start over first couple of turns. Nice refresher Joe. :) I had a VTX 1300 until I had to sell due to hip trouble. Miss the 13 years of riding i had on it.
@alanrace4156
@alanrace4156 3 жыл бұрын
A sliding tailstock die and tap holder have been around for years.
@jimmilne19
@jimmilne19 5 жыл бұрын
Cool bike! Great project for me today with the die holder. Thanks for sharing both your educational materials and your projects. Wonderful.
@rotator1232
@rotator1232 5 жыл бұрын
My ancient seer said that the side with the etched writing was the lead - apparently the side the die is cut from gets the etch tool. Now I am ancient I am passing it on 🤗
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
I have found that to be true most of the time.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't need ANYBODY to tell me that the side of the die with the lead on it is the side that is the lead. I use my EYES. Do you need to have an "ancient seer" to tell you which end of a claw hammer is used to hit the nails? PS: Your advice about the etched writing is about as idiotic as you telling people that the writing on the claw hammer is how you work out what each end of the claw hammer is used for.
@rotator1232
@rotator1232 5 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 www.newmetalworker.com/Howto/graphics/usetpsdies/diesupdown250.jpg
@rotator1232
@rotator1232 5 жыл бұрын
@@johncoops6897 www.newmetalworker.com/Howto/graphics/usetpsdies/diesupdown250.jpg
@rotator1232
@rotator1232 5 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 www.newmetalworker.com/Howto/graphics/usetpsdies/dieinhldr600.jpg
@throngcleaver
@throngcleaver 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, Joe! I have a similar die holder, but it utilizes a 1.5" round aluminum bar that has a round pocket bored in each end for the two smaller sized dies, (13/16" on one end and 1" on the other) with screw holes drilled and tapped to retain and drive the die like any die holder. A hole is drilled and reamed through the center of the bar, to accept a long steel shaft that's held in the tailstock chuck. The outside of the aluminum bar is lightly knurled to provide friction for your hand. No need to turn the tailstock crank to move the quill, and you can lock the tailstock to the bed if you want. No spinning bars to hang up on anything, and since it's double ended, it accepts two sizes of dies. It could be made larger, for the bigger dies, but you might need those bars, (shoulder bolts) for the extra torque, or coarser knurls.
@orijimi
@orijimi 5 жыл бұрын
I love how background details equates to 'putting politics' into your machining videos. Wow, people. Just wow. Great video, though. I don't actually have significant machinery at this point in my life, so it's rare that I can really engage with the content of your videos.
@MrGettinlate
@MrGettinlate 5 жыл бұрын
When I was in school 40 years ago, I made a die holder for my Dad, that he wanted to run the threads farther along some U-Bolts he needed for something. I've never seen one like this though. Pretty cool if you're using dies. Dies are not accurate enough for most of the work I encounter in my work, so it's single point almost all of the time. In the past, I have worked with the Geometric Die Head, which will thread to a stop, at which point the jaws retract. Those are really handy for production runs. Great video. Thanks for the new idea!
@waynethomas1726
@waynethomas1726 5 жыл бұрын
Most videos that demonstrate a machining process are done using steel. I liked how you used the the nylon or similar material. Even if those blanks were as expensive or even more expensive than the steel it would still be worth it when you consider tool wear, breakage etc. It reminded me of my college CNC Programming course. It was a "bare bones" program that nobody had ever heard of before and I've never heard of since but it was a CNC Program and the basics were learned using it. To make the part for the final exam we used what they then called, "machinist wax". It was a very good idea as many people messed up and the tool would traverse right through the blank workpeice which would, if using steel, break the cutter and scrap the part. I suspect that's a handy medium for doing prototype work as well as being used for teaching/demonstration. As for your die holder, very impressive. I think I need one of those!
@cannonball666
@cannonball666 5 жыл бұрын
I believe he used nylon so he didn't have to show the shortcoming of his power die method. Using metal would require him to reverse rotate frequently to break off chips.
@kraussebusch6432
@kraussebusch6432 5 жыл бұрын
I made a die holder like the one in this video but without the handles more than 15 years ago. I use it a bit differently though; I chuck it tight in the tailstock, turn the lathe on then turn it off in 5-6 seconds…while it is still spinning I ram the tailstock onto the work-piece. This way it cuts about 4-5 threads on it and stops but most importantly ensures that the die starts perfectly straight…then I continue manually with the die holder that came with my tap and die set. I actually do the same with taps on a lathe too. That way taps go in perfectly straight as well.
@markernineteen2837
@markernineteen2837 5 жыл бұрын
Crank it up Joe , we want to hear it !
@norwegiangadgetman
@norwegiangadgetman 2 жыл бұрын
I recently made an adapter, from 1/2"-20 to M12/1.75 in order to hook up an 60s diesel injector to a injector pressure tester... On both the first two attempts, I effed up the threads, and only got it right on the third attempt. And that only worked because I left undersized material outside the threaded area, to guide the die onto the area it needed to cut. (The part is hollow, with a threaded section at each end, and a thicker hex center, so I had something for the chuck to grab onto afterwards, when I cut off the excess material. That hex is also for tightening the adapter into the tester and injector) I have a floating die holder, similar to yours, and even with a sliding steel core like the one you had built into yours, but crucially, it was lacking the handles. And that made it useless. I'll definitely rebuild mine this summer. And that bike... Sometimes I wish that I had continued and taked the driving lessons for a heavy MC... Then I wake up and aren't certain if it was a dream or nightmare...
@CraftAero
@CraftAero 5 жыл бұрын
After 40 yrs as a Tool & Die Maker, my threading die set is virtually in mint condition... ie: used ONLY as a last resort or for simply chasing a thread.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Mine as well.
@chisdalton9652
@chisdalton9652 Жыл бұрын
we used to have the same kind of set up, but we used a bar in the tool post instead of holding the die holder by hand. set correctly the die handle simply fell of the bar in the toolpost. great idea. for just a few off though, a real pain on the hands when doing it all day. keep up the good work.
@muddfun1840
@muddfun1840 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea. How does that work when your threading steel or stainless ?
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Just fine. But dont use power, and don't rest one handle against a board or bar. The die will have a one sided influence and end up with whats called a DRUNKEN condition. Others have advised it as good practice, and its not. 2 handles, 2 hands. Simple.
@michaelclark2840
@michaelclark2840 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe. As a matter of course, generally the die size and specs are printed on the lead in side by most manufacturers.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, but have encountered the odd exception.
@wobblypops7527
@wobblypops7527 5 жыл бұрын
On point, will share this one also. Too bad some viewers aren't happy with white board. Wtf they need to grow up. Great tool and camera work as always, NICE way to get to work !
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@PALM311
@PALM311 5 жыл бұрын
A floating die holder is a very cool idea! Think I'll build myself one. The Dies with the screws are nice because you can cut threads a litte at a time as if doing it on the lathe. You don't cut full depth on the first pass.
@ulcwiz3709
@ulcwiz3709 5 жыл бұрын
Joe : Video good as far as techniques and adapters go. BUT - your suggestion of reversing the die to finish the thread to the very end is, I think, faulted. Dies do have the chamfer on one side to indicate the starting side for your threading (making the start easier), but it is also the side which has the internal die threads cutting in the correct direction. To explain, think of the typical drill bit; besides it's sharpness, the cutting edge has a relief so that only this edge cuts, and the rest of the drill's front body doesn't contact the material it cuts through. The same is true of a die's threads. They also are relieved to cut only on the leading edge, and produce the "chips" we are all familiar with. And are designed to cut in only ONE direction (usually CW). Reversing the die in the holder and screwing over what threads are cut puts the non-cutting edge to the front, and forces the die to sort of 'climb over' any new material it encounters rather than cut it. Hence the 'broken teeth / broken die' you refer to. Probably works with your plastic or nylon, but not so much with metal. Haven't seen other comments re this; though I'd add it.
@andrewwilson6085
@andrewwilson6085 2 жыл бұрын
Have been doing this for years, but on a capstan lathe. Coventry die heads are the quickest and cut an accurate thread. For center lathes, we made die holders from thick walled tube and followed it with running center in tailstock
@KohalaIronWorksCase
@KohalaIronWorksCase 5 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about making one... with a Morse Taper including the free-wheel effect. Good video. I want to learn all I can about Manual Machining. I know a little bit, but not enough.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
One day at a time. Safety always first.
@KohalaIronWorksCase
@KohalaIronWorksCase 5 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 Amen, Machining is my Rehabilitation.
@jerryquigg3497
@jerryquigg3497 5 жыл бұрын
IFF 1” dies suffice there is a commercial product $35. littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=2314&category=
@jeffryblackmon4846
@jeffryblackmon4846 5 жыл бұрын
This is another great video. I'm seriously thinking of making a similar die holder. Thank you. "Joe Pi- making the world better, one machinist'd video at a time."
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that you could reverse dies to finish the last bit of thread Learn something every day
@johnbrace4719
@johnbrace4719 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 63 still toolmaking and I didn't know that either never stop learning
@nicholashacking381
@nicholashacking381 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand that they could have different ends: maybe that's why some of mine have cracked. I always learn something new when I watch these videos.
@DeliciousDeBlair
@DeliciousDeBlair 5 жыл бұрын
Siome dies have a draw screw instead of a spreader screw, and some are bi-directional. Depending on the expected FIT, you can start with a wide cut, then come back tighter and tighter until you reach the proper fitment, AND you take lighter cuts with less spalling, less tooth strain, and less 'shredding' (surface fracturing in the threads).
@rmkscrambler
@rmkscrambler 5 жыл бұрын
Iv been a machinist for almost 20 years. I thought those round things were mechanics tools designed to make my job harder kinda like easy out's. 😊
@billbennison3209
@billbennison3209 5 жыл бұрын
I was taught by my tutor in a school of engineering ,way back in the 60's that the starting side is always on the side of the writing on a die. I have always found this to be the case.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that should be the case, but I have seen otherwise.
@0rnery
@0rnery 5 жыл бұрын
Flippin' awesome! Who the hell gave this a thumbs down?
@feez357
@feez357 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe somebody because of the fake Harley at the end.
@Turbogto_guy
@Turbogto_guy 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone that didnt like his reference to uncle sniffy sleepy joe that was elected by the media.
@cccook4819
@cccook4819 5 жыл бұрын
I made one very similar to yours but a large die holder one end and small die the other on a shaft and the shaft had a morse taper. Made it in my apprenticeship 1966. Nice one Joe!! I was taught to undercut the end thread. Never seen another. On steel used by hand only.
@BellyUpFishGarage
@BellyUpFishGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Boy, the comments on this one are gonna be something else..
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying them so far.
@BellyUpFishGarage
@BellyUpFishGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Pieczynski It’s a bold strategy. Maybe it’ll pay off for you. I love your channel, I’ve learned a lot. I will be less inclined to watch future videos if it’s going to turn political. I’m so sick of politics, I can’t accurately verbalize it. Please don’t ruin what you’ve got going.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
@@BellyUpFishGarage I never intended for a political shit show. I'd really rather never go down that road. I edited the comment on the white board to calm the waters a bit. I appreciate your support and assure you, no more politics, implied or otherwise.
@BellyUpFishGarage
@BellyUpFishGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Pieczynski Awesome.
@KohalaIronWorksCase
@KohalaIronWorksCase 5 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 my community are made up of Farmer's, Cowboys' & fishermen so you never know. Taking my passion & with your long distance tutoring & mentoring I could do North Kohala some good. Like I mentioned before, I learned what litte I know in priosn. I got in to a College Extension which was open to onytheGarage Workline. Learn welding fro my Daddy's kid brother, Lloyd... my Uncle, my Best Friend & my Other Dad" from the age of 14. Prison taught me Machining. I just want to put it all to practice. And bea service to my Community.
@cameronmccreary4758
@cameronmccreary4758 Жыл бұрын
It also helps to have a set of thread gauges to go with the dies so one can set the die to a class of fit.I also utilize Tapmatic products alot for threading work; they have a clutch which stops the die from cutting.
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I don't naturally associate Tapmatic products with external threads. I'll have to check that out.
@LastCallAgain
@LastCallAgain 5 жыл бұрын
Why blur out "elect a clown" at the top of the white board?
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Keep the trolls at arms length. This is not a political channel.
@paulgrab3
@paulgrab3 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Have you thought about milling away the excess housing to allow chips to be more easily removed and cutting fluid applied? basically leave a ring around the front where the die sits and just have two arms going back for the handles and to connect to the follower pipe. just a thought.
@jolllyroger1
@jolllyroger1 5 жыл бұрын
Good video.... I have often made dies from nuts and even made taps from dies made from nuts as well as making taps from bolts then with those cutting dies ... Just get hardened steel nuts or at least harder than what you are tapping..... Of course in your video you did plastic and a steel blank being threaded would put more torque on the tap holder and so you should use longer arms and turn slower for safety.... When in doubt do it by hand
@DeliciousDeBlair
@DeliciousDeBlair 5 жыл бұрын
Some screws are literally cut that way [like the acetyl] for clearances on some precision pumps so that they can put compressible single use copper washers which not only seals the hole, it acts a little like a lock washer or like using loctite, only without the undesired clearance [leakage] of the lock washer, and without the undesired difficulty of removal often experienced with thread locking compound.
@airtothewick
@airtothewick 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a die like that before. America just seems to have alot more engineering workshop stuff compared to Australia :(
@ccall48
@ccall48 4 жыл бұрын
Can see what engineering shops do wrong here when I've got them to thread nylon rod... now to just get a lathe and make that adaptor ;)
@ianmontgomery7534
@ianmontgomery7534 4 жыл бұрын
Sutton make them. They are readily available in Melbourne.
@mace8873
@mace8873 3 жыл бұрын
I have got to make a die holder like that, I remember watching the video back in the days and then forgetting exactly how the gizmo worked, I'm so happy I found the video again. So far I've had the most success with a springloaded tap follower pushing on a random piece of whatever, to distribute the pressure on the die holder, but that doesn't enable me to cut threads with a die under power, a new die holder will, thanks a boatload for making these videos!
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Use power on softer materials. Keep the machine off for materials that offer greater resistance.
@mace8873
@mace8873 3 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 That's exactly what I've been doing so far, I wouldn't even attempt cutting threads in steel with this method, and once again, thanks for making these videos, you help out more than you know.;-)
@friedchicken1
@friedchicken1 5 жыл бұрын
I watched this and threw my dies away. Now I have no dies
@donarsenault2327
@donarsenault2327 5 жыл бұрын
A floating head works nice to. It centers the die much better by finding true center. Jacobs chucks are notorious for being off center therefore holding your die holder in a cocked position.
@ophirb25
@ophirb25 5 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? Showing us the Honda but not letting us hear the engine and do some rev sound check?
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 5 жыл бұрын
@@FieryWACO Sewing machine Honda, or concrete mixer full of rocks Hardley Ableson, decisions, decisions.
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
@@ferrumignis LOL hahaha! All my Harley parts that sound like they are full of rocks already fell off and are on the side of the road somewhere.
@billdlv
@billdlv 5 жыл бұрын
That is a good tip, especially for small threads which can be hard to single point if they are long. I am fortunate the shop already had an APT floating die holder (FDH1-2) which has an anti-rotation pin that slides in a grove in the shaft. Nice bike.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and compliment on the bike. Its a great ride.
@NowAndyPlays
@NowAndyPlays 5 жыл бұрын
12:30, nono, that's not a mistake that's uhm just the threading gutter.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, thats it...thread gutter. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
@KathrynLiz1
@KathrynLiz1 5 жыл бұрын
I always use the tail-stock chuck jaws for aligning dies, especially the smaller ones. Your point about the diameter of the shank of the bit of to threaded is very important. A few thou under nominal is OK, but a few thou over is asking for trouble... :-)
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
The additional % of thread adds so much more resistance.
@deanwattles8722
@deanwattles8722 5 жыл бұрын
how can this be news to anyone that runs a lathe .... and remember dies are kind of a last resort , if you have a lathe you single point the thread, much better quality
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
did you watch the video?
@deanwattles8722
@deanwattles8722 5 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 yup, sure did....
5 жыл бұрын
@@deanwattles8722 Try buying decent British dies !
@alexbarnett8541
@alexbarnett8541 5 жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense. So many great little tips. I've never thought of putting a holder in the tale stock,but after seeing it it makes obvious sense.
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
Are you subbed to Clickspring? He does something similar.
@alexbarnett8541
@alexbarnett8541 5 жыл бұрын
@@FieryWACO no I don't think I am. I'll have to check it out. The channel is called Clickspring?
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexbarnett8541 OMG Yes! kzbin.info/door/worsKCR-Sx6R6-BnIjS2MA You are in for an amazing ride. The guy makes parts that look like jewelry.
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexbarnett8541 Here's the specific video I was referring to: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g56qq62QequGgLc
@thetruth156real3
@thetruth156real3 5 жыл бұрын
I hope this is solely for plastic threads, I wouldn’t want to cradle that with two hands on a steel thread.
@georgedennison3338
@georgedennison3338 5 жыл бұрын
Might need some longer shoulder bolts, for that!
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Don't do it under power on tougher material. Just use the exact same setup.
@phillipmcintosh6489
@phillipmcintosh6489 5 жыл бұрын
I regularly thread the ends of 10mm steel rod for about 100mm (4") using 40rpm chuck speed and a 10mm button die in a full size die holder (+/-18") on a 24" swing lathe. It's all in the way you hold the die holder, i.e. if for any reason the die holder wants to start turning with the job, it easily can without trying to take your hand/s with it and because my pieces are around 3ft long I can have the die around 6 - 12" from the chuck which is a good thing.
@dscott1524
@dscott1524 5 жыл бұрын
One thing, in order to help center the die on the shaft, I was trained to machine a nub at the minor diameter of the thread to guide the die onto the part. The nub is faced off after the threading operation is completed. Is this something you would be comfortable with?
@panjandrum.conundrum
@panjandrum.conundrum 5 жыл бұрын
"Elect a Clown, Expect a Circus" :)
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
I still think thats funny and relative.
@ianbertenshaw4350
@ianbertenshaw4350 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Joe ! I like the cardboard tip as well !
@PhillMagGamerDad
@PhillMagGamerDad 5 жыл бұрын
No offense, but this isn't exactly revelatory. These types of tailstock die holders have been used for ever. This is not even the best implementation of a die holder I've seen either, since it is at the mercy of your drill chuck being of high quality. Go check out the die holder made by Chris from Clickspring, made to fit straight into the Morse Taper of the tailstock, just seems infinitely better made and more robust than this.....
@abywater
@abywater 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you are correct... however, you have to remember that new machinists are finding new machinist videos delivering information they have not seen before...give Joe a break!
@excavateboy
@excavateboy 5 жыл бұрын
Think it's for some novice guys
@davidschwartz5127
@davidschwartz5127 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with ​ abywater Yes, I'm 72 YO and just bought a lathe and started machining, Joe never said anything about an earth-shattering or new method, its attitude's like your is the last thing a newbie like me wants to run into, so great you know it all no one made you watch.
@PhillMagGamerDad
@PhillMagGamerDad 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidschwartz5127, I disagree. The title implies that this is an earth-shattering discovery, when in fact it is a mediocre implementation of a design that has been around for a while. My comment was not a critique on the video or idea, but perhaps a wakeup call to Joe to perhaps tone down his video titles
@phillipmcintosh6489
@phillipmcintosh6489 5 жыл бұрын
@@PhillMagGamerDad I think you are the one that is mistaken. Take my case: I run a reasonably big lathe at our business to constantly get us out of trouble on little jobs. I'm not a machinist but I get the job done right at the moment of need instead of waiting days for a machine shop to do it for us. Joe's video has shown me a way to make external threads that is better than the method I currently use so "well done" Joe for sharing your knowledge! The thing I really like about Joe and for that matter Peter from "Edge Precision", is that they are humble guys sharing their vast knowledge rather than the showmen, ego-heads, wannabe movie stars, etc. and you all know who these guys are.
@craigsuslosky3974
@craigsuslosky3974 2 жыл бұрын
Great little tool, and nice mod you did to it, thanks for sharing! Nice bike, I had a 2007 VTX 1300C, it was an awesome bike, not a stitch of trouble the entire time I had it. Safe travels!
@TheDemon190
@TheDemon190 5 жыл бұрын
The writing is always on the lead side
@DeliciousDeBlair
@DeliciousDeBlair 5 жыл бұрын
I made a tailstock die holder like that in shop class long ago, its really too short and too small in diameter for anything I do though, so I have a better device which I use to clean up single point threads for a precise fitment. Also I have had to deep cut grade 8 bolts to get rid of the shoulder, and realistically, you can't very well chuck one and single-point it, not enough material on the head to grab hold of, plus it brings the tool too close to the head, so a die is the only real way to finish, its just painfully slow with a lot of oil and a lot of gradual passes from super wide [shallow cut] to final fitment.
@Preso58
@Preso58 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, not a Trump fan then? Good idea about the cardboard protector. Hadn't thought about that.
@johnbrace4719
@johnbrace4719 5 жыл бұрын
Make America great wish we had him here in UK fantastic president
@steveg069
@steveg069 5 жыл бұрын
Some great tips! After going through various sets of taps and dies over the years, I have to be honest. Try out the Harbor Freight titanium tap and die sets. They have a lifetime warranty and actually cut well. I know I'll hear some crap for that, but like I said try them. I don't think you'll be disappointed. Nice bike, keep the shiny side up and the rubber side down. :)
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
HF is underrated. I am always snapping up carbide bits and diamond coated cutters at insanely low prices.
@blindtrace7220
@blindtrace7220 5 жыл бұрын
@@FieryWACO I bet you are. 🤣
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
@@blindtrace7220 Wow, what a witty retort. Genius level banter, there.
@blindtrace7220
@blindtrace7220 5 жыл бұрын
@@FieryWACO I was making fun of your poverty and abundance of spare time. But you still didn't have time to vote. Fight the power, tough guy. Mwah!😘
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
@@blindtrace7220 You are a moron that can't comprehend that someone could possibly choose a candidate outside of your two-party fascist system. Congrats.
@wheelitzr2
@wheelitzr2 5 жыл бұрын
"elect a clown expect a circus" that's awesome!!
@NickDangerThirdGuy
@NickDangerThirdGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Elect a clown, clean up for a circus!
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like your crack is still stinging from the loss of your war criminal candidate. Have you tried Vagisil?
@caseyquillen6073
@caseyquillen6073 5 жыл бұрын
Guys, don't you have some Info Wars episodes to catch up on or something? Or are you just going to cry on the internet all night?
@FieryWACO
@FieryWACO 5 жыл бұрын
@@caseyquillen6073 Don't you have some babies to abort? Or drag queen storytime readings for kids? Or primaries to rig? Or more wars to start? Or more Americans to kill via targeted drone strikes?
@blindtrace7220
@blindtrace7220 5 жыл бұрын
@@FieryWACO chill out, you sound like a Democrat.
@johnbrace4719
@johnbrace4719 5 жыл бұрын
Great.. I made a holder that slides over tailstock spindle and a screw that locates in the keyway no hands near chuck would love to show you
@bedlamite42
@bedlamite42 5 жыл бұрын
unloosen is a perfectly cromulent word.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
I use it all the time. Bothers a lot of people.
@karlgross2486
@karlgross2486 5 жыл бұрын
Like taking it out of the freezer to “unthaw”
@skipgoryews1356
@skipgoryews1356 5 жыл бұрын
Hello very nice instructional film. i am 71 years old and i learned something here ! i would like to come buy one day and visit. i would call first .i hope young students of the machine world would take this lesson to heart, thanks for all of your work. regards Skip Victoria Texas
@johnhili8664
@johnhili8664 5 жыл бұрын
So it true what they say that simple things please simple minds:-)))))))))
@Urge38
@Urge38 2 жыл бұрын
99% of dies have the size/writting on the lead
@davemanley8700
@davemanley8700 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job Joe, We need 300 pcs. by noon time so we can ship them to our customer. Just kidding I use to work production and now I'm a retired tool maker. I enjoy all your videos and you do a great job of explaining things, keep up the good work I'm looking forward to your next one.
@20ldF0rTh1s
@20ldF0rTh1s 5 жыл бұрын
11:48 Must be the Russian's fault
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
I called them 1200 times for advice.
@20ldF0rTh1s
@20ldF0rTh1s 5 жыл бұрын
You have to go through Rachel Maddow Joe. Seems to be an expert in consp.. ermm i mean Russian affairs
@cedriceveleigh
@cedriceveleigh 4 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. They seem to be commercially available as "tailstock floating die holders".
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Quite possibly.
@MrAlexhasker
@MrAlexhasker 5 жыл бұрын
Another good tip with an un-necessary click bait title
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 5 жыл бұрын
100% agreed. Totally clickbait.
@Ztingjammer
@Ztingjammer 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't think he would stoop so low. Thanks, now I can focus on the more serious channels.
@cylosgarage
@cylosgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Joe pie gets a pass in my book, the fact that the content is actually valuable makes it not bother me
@cwbsr03
@cwbsr03 4 жыл бұрын
If you know how to do all this then move on.... No need for your crappy opinions. This is obviously for people who are learning. You know it's all jerks just go away.
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 2 жыл бұрын
Could have explained it all in 2mins though. I hate giving up 20mins of my life for 2mins of info. (Besides we have a planet to save and this all costs a ton of electricity when combined. Online adverts should be carbon taxed)
@troydugstad4759
@troydugstad4759 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet ride, I've got a 1300 VTX, really enjoy it. Great tip on the free floating tail stock holder!
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
We have a 1300 C as well. Nice bikes.
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