All Right. Let's Talk About The UFO Thing | Answers With Joe

[@benjaminl.694]

I will not be lectured to about the existence or non-existence of UFO's by a damn werewolf.

[@davidottley2739]

You tell him... 😂

[@Comet701]

This literally made me lol :-)

[@henrytjernlund]

A time traveling one at that.

[@kardush]

Take ir easy man, he almost had sclerosis.

[@dragonJo69]

Just say no to werephobia!

[@bartsekura]

Well then, even taking the most skeptical approach to this, it's still huge, because it means the most powerful military in the world cannot distinguish basic phenomena from potential threats.

[@wouterdevlieger1002]

Which occasionally happens, and results in significant civilian deaths and sometimes in full fledged invasions of Iraq. It's well documented throughout history. Nothing new about it.

[@MagNEt1Cc]

The US military specially The Pentagon and Intelligence services is unfortunately full of people who just there to try justify their jobs existence.

[@MrHominid2U]

@@wouterdevlieger1002 Na that was a corrupt and evil Executive administration outright lying to Congress and the United Nations and forcing US Intelligence to go along. The military just follows orders

[@bartsekura]

@@wouterdevlieger1002 Of course. But what's strange to me is why would they go public with it?

[@wouterdevlieger1002]

@@bartsekura 'going public' in this case is 'stop doing efforts to keep this classified', which takes quite some effort. The more relevant question is why they didn't publish this as soon as they worked out what it was. Sensitive information about the capabilities of planes that may be worked out from this, most likely

[@suddenturnforthebest2282]

"I was way too old to be worried about being a werewolf". Hey 2020 was rough on all of us bro

[@davidpotter6119]

When I was 18 I convinced myself a killer whale was in the pool. Swimming by myself every time I would swim in the deep with my dive mask I couldn't shake the tight butthole feeling. Weirded out and embarrassed of myself I got out

[@spvillano]

@@davidpotter6119 and, to your horror, found the pool empty. Yeah, know the feeling with the added COVID, erm, mass on my ass. ;) Both of me, to give the scale credit.

[@miconis123]

The preferred term is Lupine American. Thank you.

[@turtlejeepjen314]

To this day, I always feel like there is a giant shark right behind me in the pool, & I still have real terror when going off the diving board & swimming up out of the water. I can almost feel it, it is so terrifying!!!! (Don’t even get me started about water skiing- being in the middle of the lake & waiting on the boat to start was the WORST!!!) (Yes, I know sharks don’t live in freshwater….. but NOW it’s like an all new terror since I have learned that BULL SHARKS can live in freshwater!!!!

[@i_luv_hecklefish]

🤣

[@NoCallerID86753ohNine]

I burst out laughing after he said “my still forming kid brain said: hm, I think I could freak out about this” I love the way he tells stories 😂

[@afterthought3341]

when i was 7 a kid told me basically the exorcist script and i thought Satan was going to get me for months.

[@shepaaaarrrrrd]

As a “military personnel,” our uniform doesn’t make us infallible. We’re people like everyone else and you should question us the same as you would anyone else.

[@KillAllCops88]

It's more his creds as a pilot more than anything else

[@ohrizzy6409]

Not just a normal pilot either. I’ve been a huge fan of both pilots in tic tax video. I mean dude 4 of the top pilots we have all said they saw it and broke security (kinda) to make sure people know it’s out there... I look up to people who outrank me but sorry 4 of the best American navy pilots all saw it.

[@jacovandeventer3796]

Wasn't there also radar data to corroborate the carrier sightings? Additionally, you're also well trained, especially the fighter pilots. So us civilians would tend to take your accounts more seriously. Especially if it's officially stated. (edit: I finished typing all that just after the relevant parts in the video)

[@dragonfly6955]

@@jacovandeventer3796 Yes, there's also radar data in support of that sightings.

[@1111oakland]

I was thinking the same thing. Im Naval Aircrew, as far as the helicopter community goes, the pilots I work with hate using the FLIR. They only use it when training absolutely necessitates it. Not saying they aren't proficient with using it but that doesn't mean they understand parallax and the visual illusions associated with it. Theyre just as susceptible to illusions as anyone else.

[@dattaprasadgodbole]

This skeptical take was better than Neil deGrasse Tyson's and Michael Shermer's. Tyson seemed dismissive and Shermer's first line of argument was an ad hominem. Thank you for demonstrations of explanations.

[@changer1285]

Tyson is a lazy dismissive elitist about a lot of things

[@urs919]

Oh please not that guy here

[@intello8953]

Nope Tyson dismissive was “aliens” coming down and picking up humans and sticking whatever equipment up their ass not UFO’s in general. Even I roll my eyes when cringey idiots only conclusions to UFO’s is *ALIENS* lol.

[@geoden]

Any sane person with a brain is going to be skeptical!

[@feralfeel9235]

@@geoden especially of my government telling me that something is or is not... Whatever. I'd sooner believe probed farmers.

[@jennayyye2525]

Joe: "Mom, I can't go to school today. I don't feel good." Joes Mom: "Whats wrong?" Joe: ".........I'm a werewolf..."

[@mannylugz5872]

Joe's Mom> Its ok son. As long as its not full moon you wont transform. And oh...avoid touching anything silver.

[@amandajones661]

😅😅😅😅

[@abradfordajb]

Joe's Dad: " It runs in the family. Your uncle is a Hyena".

[@luisvarca]

Plausible.

[@HaydenX]

I move to pass a resolution to edit your transcript from "Joe's Mom" to "Joe Mama"...that is all.

[@arizonastrummer]

I think Joe feels as I do about military personnel but knows it's really bad karma to let it be known. My time in the Navy exposed me to all sorts of people and you would hope that they would be a standard cross section of society but what I found was far from that. The percentages of people that ranged from the criminally insane to simple bullies and liars was far higher than in civilian life. Also, the vast majority of people I met were not in the military for some honorable, patriotic reason but instead because it was a job filled with free training, healthcare, travel, etc. where very few of them would actually ever see combat. Many had no clue how their government worked or the history of our nation and the world. There were also brilliant and respectful people I met but I wish I could say they were a majority (and this is true of both officers and enlisted). So, in essence to say that because some military pilot claims something or some military spokesperson puts out a public pronouncement, people need to immediately question the validity and evidence, not give it some instant credibility. It may be true but the messengers are to be trusted no more than some stranger on the street perhaps even less because the military actually has reasons to misdirect and hide the truth. In the end, I'm at the same place Joe is where the high res photos and videos are scarce in a time when people are capturing extraordinary things all the time with their cameras and phones. Everything is blurred and out of context. That doesn't even bring into the discussion the incredibly vast distances to even the closest other star and the basic limitations of physics we can actually test. Space is deadly and vast. I do believe life exists elsewhere but the odds it can even know Earth is inhabited much less get to us are remote.

[@afterthought3341]

You have some reasonable points there, Luis Elizondo has been proven to be fraudulent about jobs he held.

[@robertgarscadden]

Dr.Steven.M.Greer lays it all out."The Lost Century.(and how to reclaim it)the facts and proof is frankly astonishing.

[@SaintPhoenixx]

The fact we still give extra credibility to extraterrestrials stories by military people or police is so wild to me. There's no recorded instance of a cop being stupid or lying or someone in the military being just a regular dumb guy. Everyone in the military is a genius with no history of ever lying.

[@The_Conspiracy_Analyst]

Exactly! We had a first class petty officer on the Harry S Truman that was an avionics shop supervisor stealing F-14 and F-18 parts and other equipment and selling them to a foreign country. We're talking classified electronics and software that was kept in securitized containers here. And the fun part is he tried to blame subordinates for it somehow. Even subordinates that had the incredible foresight to transfer way the hell away from his shop before it happened. Not even joking. This dude had the worst quality rate in the entire fleet too, and often sent gear back out the door without even doing one bit of troubleshooting on it. It cost the lives of two pilots and multi million dollar aircraft. Nothing ever happened to this guy. I don't know what he had on the division heads

[@bruzote]

@@SaintPhoenixx - Especially pilots. Heck, our society won't even collectively question the credibility of military pilots because that means we question the credibility of the (former military) civilian pilots who fly passenger aircraft. We certainly don't want to feel that our own plane is flown by a liar, so we collectively push our concerns deep into our subconscious and pretend military pilots are more honorable and honest than other people!

[@fultzjap]

Forget about UFOs, the way you opened up the video with your own raw emotional childhood quirks should earn the subscription of anyone. Very brave, very humble, very trust earning. You're now among my favorite 5 channels to watch. You rock dude.

[@yoyolol22]

I skipped it

[@merfalerf2201]

Joe has been goin' full raw on me for years, and it's so heckin' trustworthy.

[@mandymouse1879]

FOR REAL.

[@FerociousPancake888]

When I was little I always felt so bad about eating anything even remotely shaped like an animal or human or even gingerbread men like treats. I almost couldn’t do it at all.

[@salvale9184]

I'm like 75% sure he just described childhood OCD symptoms

[@MennoY0uTube]

When the presenter casually mentions "please don't send me death threats", you know we aren't worthy of alien visits or first contact.

[@RobertFletcherOBE]

learn some self love, it sounds like you need it. There are many genuinely wonderful people in the world.

[@addamriley5452]

@@RobertFletcherOBE there’s also a lot of genuinely nice aliens too 👍

[@mitujone]

@@RobertFletcherOBE sure good people exist but there is no argument that can be made that humanity is hurling towards anything good

[@travisbrock87]

You broke alien subject matter expert 101. Always accept & embrace the death threats, to our then in the a few chapters of the self published alien conspiracy book your trying to sale. Duh

[@mitujone]

@@travisbrock87 w-what?

[@julietdavis5752]

Just found you accidentally. It’s going to be a very long weekend of binge watching, Joe. Great work. Also love your sense of humor.

[@PinkyFruitcake]

I don't remember what the first video was I found around d lunchtime today by Joe... but its 9.30pm and I'm still going 🤣

[@Jjdhjsjshshs]

If you haven’t watched his videos about the Victorian era yet then you should it’s his best videos imo also the origins of cereal was disturbing n crazy like unbelievably disgusting seriously if you haven’t seen it you have to

[@rach8744]

Me too lool

[@MegaAwsome555]

“Please don’t send me death threats *sighs*.” Honestly, that’s probably one of the best ways to NOT get death threats. Cudos to you

[@landshark3509]

As a software developer, when I hear "the new radar showed these objects moving in impossible ways" all I can think is that there's a bug in whatever software they just switched to to run the display

[@orlock20]

One issue is ghosting. That's when a radar's beam bounces off an object onto another object and back to the antenna. That can be intentionally done with radar spoofing in electronic warfare. One plane can send its own signals back to the antenna making it believe there are multiple aircraft. Also early radars did not have filters. Filters are used to eliminate non aircraft such as insect swarms, flocks of birds, balloons etc.

[@Ben-rz9cf]

@@orlock20 yeah once you've ruled out bugs occams razor suggests the next likely answer is another rival country trying to intentionally fuck with your equipment

[@darkbee2359]

Ahhh shit, I created another race condition again.

[@raymondrodriguez4697]

That works for one system but when it's showing up on different systems running different program's that idea doesn't hold water

[@raymondrodriguez4697]

An another country messing with your system might explain it if it was just system based but there is eye witness account of what they were seeing not just the display monitors

[@aatoss3689]

One possible explanation for a motive was in the beginning: "...and then the government resumed funding these military programs".

[@Zymoox]

@Yose BenDovid 19:42

[@feralfeel9235]

And in their five page "report" they did ask for more money.

[@MrHichammohsen1]

People before: We saw a UFO! Government: Nah its a secret project or hallucinations Governments now: We found UFOs! People: Nah its fake...

[@reubanrajan2679]

So true😂

[@TheSlashSlingingSlasher]

Rightfully so considering they lied to the public for 70 years. The public is right to have their suspicions.

[@markos.5539]

How the turntables

[@MrHichammohsen1]

UFOs or UAPs are plasmoid phenomenon that are ejected by high currents or magnetic flux. They take the shape of the platonic solids because its the simplest way or geometry and that is how nature works. That's why you see cubes in spheres or triangles. You can see those in volcano eruptions and its just a ball of plasma.

[@grimaffiliations3671]

@@TheSlashSlingingSlasher but if they’re coming out with something they’ve been lying about it’s probably true

[@bashbashfulsson4540]

I love your approach here; I have a similar perspective. I desperately want to live in a weird universe full of aliens and ghosts and supernatural mysteries, but I've been taken in by bullshit more than once in the past, and I've had to learn scepticism the hard way.

[@MaxSMoke777]

You don't think there might be a "little" difference between some shyster selling "psychic medallions" at a Bigfoot convention and US Fighter Jet Pilots with advanced hardware? Please consider for a moment how silly that sounds.

[@hellnaw7921]

@@MaxSMoke777 When did they mention anything to do with Bigfoot lol, you just have to take everything with a grain of salt.

[@danf7411]

It's hard to deny government footage, have the Russian or Chinese elites leapfrogged multiple technological jumps

[@palmereldritch_6669]

Yup. I share this perspective. I don't think you can completely dismiss eyewitness testimony, and there is a sht ton of that out there. But the world is also full of grifters and crazies. Overall, I think there's a fairly solid body of evidence that something very real is going on, I just haven't seen the evidence 'progress' to something more bullet proof.

[@198EE4]

“Please don’t send me death threats”. Joe, it’s like you don’t even want us to enjoy KZbin.

[@Brett_S_420]

What would KZbin be without the death threats from random people? I like turtles! 🧟💭🐢 🤦

[@sinisterjuggalo4364]

This made me chuckle, and I needed that. Thank you.

[@chrispbacon5313]

@@Brett_S_420 I hear they're delicious.... the turtles, I mean.😋

[@strategicsage7694]

@@Brett_S_420 Much better than it is? But yeah, it's all part of the joy of being on KZbin :)

[@PronatorTendon]

@@Brett_S_420 Shoulda been a frog person, we know where you live 👀👀🐸

[@yezakd]

OMG I love the admission of Joe's past and how he was as a kid. I think it makes him so much more relatable. LOVE this channel.

[@phillipblacklock2615]

And me seem so normal !!!!!!

[@icebergslim1872]

Omg!!!

[@russellholmes3187]

Nah, I'm betting the story belongs to one of the clones. Probably the weird one in the bathrobe.

[@KillaBitz]

In the words of PBS Space Time "It's never Aliens, until its Aliens"

[@choronos]

I'm just dropping by to share a playlist I enjoyed. This guy Mick West has some compelling explanations for what we see in the Navy UFO videos and reproduces a lot of the optical effects he's talking about. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHPIooNqr5iljtE

[@aeroripper]

It's rational to explain away these incidents as a camera problem (it could be accurate), but given the long history of military encounters with these craft outside of these recent incidents I'm skeptical what they're routinely seeing are visual artifacts in every case.

[@choronos]

I probably should have watched Joe's video first; I guess he mentions Mick West. Oh well, I look dumb now!

[@JohnnyWednesday]

In the words of Kurt Cobain "Just because you're paranoid? doesn't mean they're not after you"

[@michaelchildish]

@@choronos nah it's ok mate, I won't watch this video even as I like others by this channel. I'm here to debunk myself, by pointing out: We live in a time it is possible to realistically create photo-realistic fake footage, especially if it's low in colour, or even black and white, even easier, if you have the time, effort and tools. Some extremely bored USA Navy troops are faking some of this footage because they have nothing to do, when it's not battlestations. Even they will get tired of whut whut in the butt now and again!

[@petergetty2034]

This is why I love your work: like me, you don't try to prove yourself right; you try to prove yourself wrong. No echo chamber. No "I so want this to be true I'll believe anything", but " I want this to be true, but legit true, so I want proof that is beyond doubt".

[@octogonSmuggler]

When I was a child I had managed to convince myself that there was mermaid living in the deep end of the pool who would eat me if I strayed too close. But I could very clearly see it in my mind's eye, so I was quite certain I'd seen it for real, which made me baffled once my parents told me nothing was there. I was genuinely terrified of this non-existent Fae in our swimming pool. It was awful.

[@unclebadger597]

I was positive that Jaws was somewhere in our above ground (no deep end) pool 😄

[@erikwilson9498]

@@unclebadger597 clearly you were a troubled kid. hopefully you got over it

[@oak4901]

How much are your octogons?

[@cottage-core_]

I had something similar. Now I have an anxiety disorder...

[@just_going_mads]

I miss when my rampant anxiety had an element of whimsy to it. Now it's just like "oh, no, I'm going to be robbed" or "oh god, I said the wrong thing, am I about to be fired?".

[@ngee35]

Joe: I'm going to need more proof. Aliens: Looks like we have our first probing volunteer.

[@donaldbadowski290]

Homer: Well, I guess you'll want to probe me. Might as well get it over with. Kang: Stop! We've reached the limits of what rectal probing can teach us.

[@Legionmint7091]

*medical gloves snaps into place close to Uranus*

[@erichimes3062]

@@Legionmint7091 😂

[@erichimes3062]

😬😮🕳 👈🏻

[@barb6056]

You do realize this is how hypnotic psyops are setup right? You take a government shill like this guy who has over a million subs and then have him go against the narrative that they themselves have allowed to seep out to prepare the way for their follow up psyop to the one they just pulled. Man I'll tell you, The one thing that has become abundantly obvious over the last 16 months is, most people will fall for ANYTHING; as long as it comes from the TV or social media...

[@CainLatrani]

I can only be one paranormal entity at a time sounds like something a time traveling werewolf alien would say.

[@Solcitse]

There was this show on the history channel that showed what appeared to be two intersecting roads underwater off the coast of Cuba, which they spent the entire show positing that it could be an underwater base for USO, and all I could think through the entire episode was show me a single underwater craft that requires a runway to take off from.

[@PastelBrushes-n-Donuts]

And with recent research it is now believed to be naturally created and not man made. Bye-bye “it’s ancient roads” theory.

[@SnLeo-zx6qy]

How can anyone even watch History Channel?

[@rustomkanishka]

The Bimini road is the popular destination for such shows. It's natural geological phenomenon. There's one off the coast of Okinawa too, it looks like an entire city. It's rocks.

[@DamienArts]

You don't have to make up your mind in the absence of evidence. - Carl Sagan

[@Sealed_Chamber]

There is evidence. Obviously it's not conclusive, but it's still _evidence._

[@justadream631]

That's why it helps to be a skeptic with a foot on one side. Cuz we all gotta believe in something... right?😅 "cuz you gotta have faaaaaith"-Donkey from Shrek

[@erikjarandson5458]

And yet, that's exactly what Sagan did, every time he ordered a dish he hadn't tried before, or performed any one of thousands ordinary, everyday tasks. Total skepticism is paralyzing. The trick is to make choices, but remain open to the possibility that they're wrong.

[@cheezoncrack1]

Does absence of evidence = ignore all the evidence and pretend that UFOs = aliens?

[@cheezoncrack1]

About 80 years of evidence for UFO flying around doing things we cannot categorize. Pseudo-skeptic conflate the problem with space aliens, and reach totally erroneous conclusions as a result.

[@razorsaber2287]

“Please don’t send me death threats” God the internet has become such a sad place

[@Preppy_girlie_987]

Why?

[@bearcubdaycare]

I wonder how they affect the Algorithm and monetization? Ostensibly, big tech deters Bad Things by its algorithms, but media also tends to sensationalism, which therefore must be lucrative, and thus of interest for ad revenue, from a purely algorithmic viewpoint. It'd be interesting to know whether the craziest comments helped or hurt him with the Algorithm and with monetization.

[@checksyllabus4062]

I mean even before the internet the type of people who send death threads would just mail their threats.

[@ILLUMINATED-1]

“become”? I’ve been on the internet for like 20 years and its always been the same, just more or less people with different toys

[@stardolphin2]

@@checksyllabus4062 But it's so much easier, now. Think of it as the darker side of 'user friendly.'

[@martincoburn6522]

Thank you for clearing the "No stars in the sky" moon photos. Ihad heard there was reasons they didn't show up but never knew exactly why, now I do, thank you for that!

[@ashleysparkles6382]

Joe, my daughter was watching and you said Santa isn’t real. You’re killing me man.

[@SphericaICow]

Smart daughter

[@michaeljames5936]

I was parked illegally one evening and one of those featured craft showed up. A beam from the craft started puling my car along behind the UAP. "Goddamn it". "I'm being Tic-Tac-Towed."

[@doubletapm4]

This was pretty funny!!!

[@myscreen2urs]

Badabum🥁

[@k0lpA]

have your like

[@Will_Hallett_Art]

So what happened after that?

[@k0lpA]

@@Will_Hallett_Art His car smelled fresh

[@fascistpedant758]

I once saw several Tic-Tacs flying in formation following a ballistic trajectory across the room.

[@stulora3172]

Not your worst Wednesday night, I suppose?

[@alexcrouse]

Ever blow-gun your buddy with a straw launched tic-tac? Serious weapon.

[@stulora3172]

@@alexcrouse I am happy I didn't know that when I was 10 years old.

[@Mark-sl4bw]

If aliens aren't visiting Earth, then explain Mark Zuckerberg.

[@tmseh]

Elon Musk.

[@fxbear]

@@tmseh both cloned from the same tic tac

[@tmseh]

@@fxbear Lol! Minty fresh.

[@brandonolson6111]

Cyborg

[@Kain366]

This deserves much more likes.

[@mstrandt]

In response to your question on if you've ever seen anything. I used to be a field investigator for MUFON. Would be sent the report of a sighting, contact and interview the witness, and then was required to file a report based on the interview... but I always went a couple steps beyond, and would check news outlets and weather stations to see what the conditions were, or if there had been something going on. Most of my reports I marked as "identified" (examples being: someone saw a flying sphere that would change from blue to silver, then blue again, turns out there was a wedding nearby whose colors were blue and silver... a balloon, perhaps? or another one that turned out to be a parachuting team that was using flares). My state director didn't like my findings, went and deleted the collected information, and marked everything as "unidentified". So much for investigative unbias.

[@Primitarian]

The aliens could save us all a lot of trouble by just holding a press conference.

[@Vortex_one]

That would be wild if that really did happen lol

[@MadMax22]

It’s not like we could do anything to the, lol. It would be like your older brother holding you away from him with just his arm.

[@TheSecondInitiate]

An intelligent ET species could be a fungus-like structure that took over a planet and makes these little drones to go out and find it new resources. It may not be that straightforward....

[@Mr.Anders0n_]

The aliens would love to do it, but "they" won't allow it.

[@1jediwitch]

Yeah, but then the skeptics would claim that is is just bad CGI.

[@ChiragMalik4]

"Here have a Tic-Tac, it makes your breath out of this world fresh."

[@OnlyFactsPlease]

"Hey Joe, I found the Tic-Tac social media people"

[@applebutter4036]

"Probe your taste buds with a minty Tic-Tac."

[@VaughanMcCue]

That's heavenly

[@daniele4568]

Weirdly, I had the exact opposite experience with this. I've never, in my life, believed any of this. In fact, you could say I was dismissive. Then I saw the full accounting of the Nimitz encounter in 2004, and now I'm wondering what's going on, what are these things? They tracked them on radar for a couple weeks. They did a full diagnostics and complete reset of the system, and ended up just getting a clearer radar image of the objects. They then intercept one, and had four pilots see the exact same thing, the tic tac. They risked their careers even talking about it because of the stigma related to it. When the tic tac "disappeared", they reacquired its radar signal 60 miles away a couple seconds later. They then sent another fighter to image it, and they got the FLIR video that we've seen. That's a lot of corroborating evidence to just dismiss. That doesn't mean it's aliens, but we absolutely should focus on finding out what they are.

[@IanMicheal]

Indeed all these debunkers keep not giving the full story of what happen just what they need to prove there debunk.. Makes you wonder why there going so hard to debunk what is fact they where seen on radar.. He wantes a normal photo but cant believe radar ?

[@royanders945]

Pretty much exactly the same for me.

[@SteveBakerIsHere]

These military sensors have a small mountain of software inside. That software has bugs...for sure...because any piece of software that big has bugs. These devices are designed to pick up very faint signals and to enhance the crap out of them so human eyeballs can see them on a screen. So sometimes they're going to pick up some random sensor artifact and present it as a real thing. The operators are supposed to be knowledgeable about these things and are trained to be skeptical about what they're seeing because...well..."shit happens". Raw video footage that's presented to the general public (who have NOT been trained in these matters) will very often create great news footage...but has zero value for determining whether something is an alien spacecraft or a glitch in the system.

[@paulpierce1001]

@@SteveBakerIsHere this. We have fighter jets that, on radar, appear to be no bigger than a common bumble bee. When you have jets that can do that it means you have to have radar sensitive enough to pick up a bumble bee... how many times do you think the radar is gonna go off? Id imagine radar picks up more flukes than it does actual threats.

[@daniele4568]

@@SteveBakerIsHere The fact that four pilots saw the object, and then it was recorded on video, proves it wasn't a glitch in the system. Once again, it doesn't prove it's aliens, but it does prove there's an object behaving in ways that we can't explain yet. We need more data.

[@StrGzr101]

Mr. Scott, thirty minutes ago I was set on this. You degaussed my thinking and displayed the weakness of my own rationale. I don't like having to reset, but I'm always glad I did. Many thanks and respect for your work. Be well.

[@plutonium2]

Nooooooo I read the comments before I watch I don't wanna be disabused of UFO lore let me dreeeeam

[@bryanmcdonald4351]

“After our ghost hunting session we sat down and had a rational discussion” you’re hilarious dude

[@spvillano]

Well, in the analog era, I could say that with a straight face. Referring of course, to reflected and delayed signals creating ghost images on the TV screen. The only real ghosts now are either due to dry eye or chemically altered states.

[@planexshifter]

If ghosts were real, wouldn't they just be everywhere, all the time? I mean, LOTS o people have died, all over the place.....

[@scotth6814]

@@planexshifter Yeah, and wouldn't they be hanging out in cool places? I mean the beach, the movie theatres, the pubs, the cruise liners.

[@nickromo8195]

@@planexshifter they are everywhere but only the chosen can see them!!!!! Believe me I'm an expert in bird law.

[@brucegoldberg9463]

B

[@JamesOKeefe-US]

"I can only be one paranormal entity at a time"... I feel that... 🤣

[@schandthrax6397]

I need a t-shirt with that sentence xD

[@davidortiz181]

This episode was AWESOME!! Joe, you are so good at this, your comedic timing, editing, and research is OUTSTANDING!! This one I think had much more tangents, but super entertaining. Keep up the great work!

[@mkohlhorst]

Lots of times, throughout my life, I've seen things in the sky I couldn't explain. Were they aliens or should I just have had glasses at a younger age? I don't have the answers, but once I got glasses my grades improved...

[@pathfinderGM]

"it's more creditable because it is coming from military personnel." As a former army enlisted that is not a good reference. While deployed with soldiers, roughly 3/5 of soldiers believed in aliens. It really surprised me when over half the base believed and all referenced the same 3 soldiers that claimed to have seen it first hand. So soldiers probably aren't the best nonbiased source.

[@Peanutdenver]

I think he's referring to the Navy Pilots who came forward concerning the "Tic Tac" video. But I hear you, some of my buddies who served were not the best examples of humanity. I'll add some of them were/are incredible people as well. Intelligent, motivated and dialed in individuals that are incredible people.

[@JeffNeelzebub]

I worked 4 years in Afghanistan on PTDS, which was a blimp that had a high-powered camera. Our job was to find bad guys for the military. Countless times I'd be called to assist troops in contact (TIC), and many times I'd find that they'd be shooting at something that wasn't there. The enemy would be shooting at them from a completely different direction and compound. Even under direct fire and life-and-death situations, they'd see the wrong thing. Happens more times than we'd care to admit.

[@felixs101]

So you'd rather think that 3/5 of your people are either stupid, liars or guillable than to consider the alternative ?

[@LeSkinner]

@@felixs101 You'd rather believe aliens are stalking us like this instead of believing that a big proportion of the world's armies are filled with people with minimum education that are trained in very specific things and do not have knowledge or authority over astronomy and such?

[@LividImp]

@@felixs101 Yes, because probably 3/5ths of humanity is pretty unimpressive. The military is made up humans, therefor..... I really _hate_ to be one of these guys that quotes George Carlin as though I'm above it all, but... "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

[@renaissanceman5847]

"can fly at 13,000mph, defy radar, invisible ... " ...proceed to show footage flying less than the speed of sound locked on by radar.

[@harpodjangorose9696]

For all those who say, “I want to believe”, there are ten obsessive clickbait posters saying, “ I want to deceive”.

[@altrag]

Ratio is kind of the other way around.. clickbait posters would get bored very easily if their posts only had a 10% chance of drawing a single reaction. But you're correct in principle. (Or maybe you're just baiting this response.. conspiraception!)

[@ZeroOskul]

Why would bots ever get tired of posting? Google david Fravor. I know it might be shocking but "humans lie and this is all fabricated by the military" is a better explanation than "It's not humans and they only hang out near military actions". See: FLIR airplane and balloon videos FLIR cameras exaggerate the appearance of infrared radiation so objects usually appear surrounded by a halo or field. The ocean (water, generally) reflects radiation so you can have an object above the ocean's surface and the FLIR will present it within the reflected radiation so it appears to be underwater to a person who doesn't understand or recognize this photographic technology. Also, when below the radiation threshold but above the water a reflection on the real water can make the object appear to deviate into two objects. Let aliens be out there. Our computers work so we know we understand physics and quantum mechanics well enough to say these things cannot be from elsewhere because that would defy the laws of physics. These are human contraptions presented in a way intended to confuse and excite you so you trust the need for our military all the more. Humans DO lie.

[@ZeroOskul]

@Peter Kranz Good for them. It is nonsense to believe and you are exaggerating the quality of available evidence.

[@ZeroOskul]

@Peter Kranz What is biased? Yes, your view is nonsense and has nothing to do with reality outside your imagination. The pilots fabricated a story based on a very limited perspective. UFO or UAP means we don't know for sure what it is. I have no idea who Mick west is. I am a skeptic, you are not a skeptic.

[@ZeroOskul]

@Peter Kranz No, UFOs with antigravity are not outside your head. Stupid people making extraordinary claims are outside your head. YOU have a very limited perspective. YOU are anti-skeptic. Remember Santa Claus?

[@annekabrimhall1059]

When I was a teenager, there were a bunch of UFO sightings where we lived. I found out later that my brother was filling garbage bags with helium and releasing them after work. So it might be bored 18-year-old Pizza Hut employees😂

[@noondayfair]

You're never too old to worry about being a werewolf, Joe.

[@xxspodsxx2078]

Phew I thought I was weird, my wife doesn’t know but it think I’m gonna tell her

[@mattvjmeasures]

Skyrim is riddled with them

[@justinsander8216]

The chances are low... but never zero...

[@dustymccrusty8545]

Not funny man ... alot of us suffer from werewolf problems and poking fun at it is immature

[@BallantineElectric]

Wait a minute… he actually think he is not a werewolf??? 😂

[@anguskeenan4932]

Me: “come on, come on, I gotta start work in 45 minutes!” Joe: “wanna hear about UFO’s?”

[@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294]

Hurry, you still have ten minutes to get to work.

[@veteran17865]

@@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294 Nope, I'm late, but it's ok. With this new knowledge my boss will avoid me all day and I won't get in trouble.

[@nickysagan]

Did you start working already?

[@booxwee3804]

How it going at work? Having fun?

[@anguskeenan4932]

Literally just quit my job 😂😂

[@jakematheson4]

I’m sure when you talked about “the disease” and your childhood understanding, you probably felt silly. But that anecdote, for whatever reason, absolutely nailed it, I got nostalgia just from your recall. Thanks man.

[@leopirdas6577]

I will say that on an undisclosed training mission at night when I looked up I could see sooo so many stars through my night vision equipment and there was definitely a few spots that moved and when I looked with my normal eyes I couldn’t see anything. I don’t exactly know how the equipment does it, but I would guess it’s IR based considering hot brass and gunshot plumes are stupid bright in those..

[@leopirdas6577]

Being able to only see these with IR would explain why we can’t see them visually.

[@leopirdas6577]

A very good reason why most people wouldn’t come out about this is fear of retribution by the government… what most people don’t realize (not military or 3 letter organization, those people can definitely attest to this) is that when you’re a government employee, you’re always reminded of operational security, and most people probably can’t even come forward because if they do, by releasing their testimonies, they fear retribution… especially for military personnel, you can’t just “get fired.” If you mess up as military personnel, your life becomes hell…

[@mikegrazick1795]

Imagine the gas mileage on those things! "Yeah, I fill up every one billion years."

[@jayburke1601]

Imagine a type 3 civilization worrying about all the free energy just floating around in the zero point field or something like that

[@jamesvandamme7786]

Probably gets bad mileage with those 6000G jackrabbit starts.

[@mashcandy7647]

@@jayburke1601 Haha type 3, kurtzkesagt

[@Downeygaming]

Its fully powered by the sun. Our sun is much more important than we think

[@joelestes2257]

"They might be able to fly rings around the moon, but we're YEARS ahead of 'em on the highway!"

[@sunilk_89]

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan

[@damartimantilla]

Only one problem with that: what counts as extraordinary evidence? By all measures the amount of evidence gathered in the last 50 years is extraordinary. It is not incontrovertible but it is IMP extraordinary.

[@TonySahoo92]

@@damartimantilla those videos are not evidence. Those are observations (recordings), and they need to be explained. And, most explanations lead to one result; 'not alien craft'.

[@damartimantilla]

@@TonySahoo92 so a video of somebody robbing a shop is not evidence???

[@TonySahoo92]

@@damartimantilla two completely different topics. An incomprehensible video/photo is by no means an hard evidence, not even in case of robbery. Secondly judiciary system (in case of robbery) is different from scientific analysis.

[@damartimantilla]

@@TonySahoo92 the video, radar, IR sensor data, etc from an F-18 is not incomprehensible. The military and the government clearly think that the evidence is good enough to merit further investigation. They should know, don’t you think?

[@stiimuli]

Over years and years of examining extraordinary claims of all kinds from bigfoot to miracles, two common themes always stand out to me: 1) How ready and willing people are to completely skip over the most plausible and mundane (and known) explanations in order to reach for the most outlandish ones. 2) How often these things come down to unfamiliarity with camera equipment and the anomalies they can produce.

[@blinded6502]

...and?

[@loveisthemostpowerfulforce1397]

1. Yeah, when you see the evidence supporting the outlandish claim, you don't believe in typical mundane claims, which become much less plausible after seeing the evidence. 2. I'm not here to show evidence it would take me a while to explain, but the simple explanation for these craft being errors and/or misinterpretations would be true if there wasn't so much evidence proving it false. The government wouldn't spend 22 million dollars to investigate geese or equipment malfunctions, there wouldn't be sightings all over the world by other countries either. There are many clear "UFO" videos, if you search for half an hour, you can see strangely shaped objects that just hover and do strange maneuvers.

[@stiimuli]

@@loveisthemostpowerfulforce1397 ...and in that same search you can see many of those examples showing people simply misidentifying what they are seeing.....especially when the photo or video is so blurry and nondescript that it could be almost anything. Also, pointing out "all over the world" is meaningless. People can make mistakes no matter what country they are from or what occupation they hold. The same errors of perception and knowledge are, unfortunately, common across most of the human experience.

[@stefanbernhard2710]

Thats it? Pretty lame insights.

[@stefanbernhard2710]

@Aqua Fyre Cant definitively make that conclusion without all evidence presented.

[@PaddyMcMe]

Man I get it. Growing up as a kid I was never afraid of being alone in the dark until one day around age 8 I was, and that was it for me for the next 3-4 years. I was TERRIFIED of the dark. It's like now when people try to 'brag' that they don't find horror films scary and never find themselves feeling uneasy, scared, cautious, etc, even the nights following those horror films... Honestly all I can can think about people like that is that they must have a very dull or lacking imagination, limited empathy and a very poor sense of self-preservation... You know, fundamental human survival traits...Because if you aren't scared of anything that means for 99.999999999% of history you're basically just a victim/dinner waiting to happen so far as nature is concerned.

[@klaaspekala6804]

I am not afraid to be alone in the dark. I am afraid NOT to be alone in the dark...

[@joyl7842]

"That was on the History Channel, so you know the credibility is spotless" 🤣

[@r3dchicken]

Being a native french speaker myself. It was pretty funny to hear "première partie" coming out of nowhere

[@sugy747]

same ahah xD

[@tetleydidley]

Lol yup..

[@lheureuxcarl]

He's he speaking French?

[@scroopynooperz9051]

Qui a coupé le fromage? Thank you Freakazoid xD

[@DialecticRed]

haha mémé XD

[@Dillinger86]

I see UFO's all the time, until I put my glasses on.

[@adrieneceleste]

🤣🤣

[@sfreemanoh]

To be fair, most of the "video evidence" looks like the cameras didn't have its glasses on.

[@Dillinger86]

@@sfreemanoh There's a sub-reddit with photos taken from iphones of the moon and Saturn that are so freaking clear, yet despite the billions of smartphone with cameras no one has recorded an actual alien getting in or out of their space ships.

[@jamieramone8216]

A couple of years ago myself and 2 friends were involved in an alien abduction. But despite being drugged, restrained and physically exhausted after several hours of captivity and interrogation, the alien finally managed to escape.

[@roberthatch6153]

Prober not probee

[@rustomkanishka]

Ah, you tried to f**k it, didn't you?

[@bruzote]

@@rustomkanishka - I hear that in the voice of Jim Jeffries!

[@Scott_Buchanan]

@@rustomkanishkait would be un american not to 😂

[@josiahhockenberry9846]

Joe - "... the bed is disease." Me - thinking the same when checking into a hotel.

[@dirpdanger8839]

You are likely correct though.

[@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT]

If you want to avoid losing sleep over it, leave the blacklight at home.

[@hllok]

It’s true in the hotel!

[@CHX_37]

@@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT They have to make p-o-r-n flicks somewhere!

[@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT]

@@CHX_37 I must have missed the audience participation clause on the registry card. Note to self: read the fine print.

[@bryandepaepe5984]

I'm old enough to remember when "flying rods" started showing up on videos everywhere about 1980, it was bugs flying in frame and the processors were not fast enough to process the data from the new digital sensor cameras.

[@Flipperhome]

Yep. I remember those pictures. A similar but simpler thing was during the Iraq war where on the scene video showed patriot missiles 'missing' the SCUD warheads. It was due to the video frame rates. The closing speed was too fast for TV video to actually 'see' the hit that occurred between picture frames.

[@russellholmes3187]

huh. always wondered about that. I can put that one to bed, now. ta, fella

[@spyintheskyuk]

Yes it does seem a little coincidental that ‘new or upgraded sensors’ are so often mentioned almost as a throwaway part of these reports. I think those mentioning this sense it is explaining how phenomena perhaps previous invisible to them thus not experienced is suddenly made visible as if psychologically the stealthiness of the object had been caught out by these superior sensors perhaps. This in itself suggests a pre selective way of thinking perhaps and positivity about their new tech which can be a pre cursor to what then follows. Of course it is far more likely, as Joe states, it could be an indicator of an unexpected phenomena within or result of that new equipment that’s catching out the pilots who would not be fully familiar with such anomalies or the science behind them. As kids we are so susceptible to this but in adulthood we don’t recognise we can still on occasion be susceptible especially the highly trained. With familiarity such initial unexpected characteristics in tech become tuned out either technically or through familiarity with the effect itself.

[@persaunna]

I love this whole community. Joe you bring thought-provoking content, and the comments people leave make me laugh, educate me, and make me take myself less seriously. This channel is a whole mood and I'm so here for it. Also: that Werewolf show was bomb. Also also: skepticism and most other forms of NOPE are healthy and I applaud them. Also also also: We have an actual X files unit. Awesome.

[@The_Conspiracy_Analyst]

15:40 Ugh YES! Finally someone else is saying this. I'm a former Aviation Electronics Technician I recognized this type of fault the moment I saw it. This can happen for various reasons depending on the IR imaging system being used. But for example, some of them are cooled imaging sensors, and if any contamination is present in the coolant, you can get images like the one seen. For example, a spec of dust or RTV (silicone used to seal such systems) gets on the sensor, you will see something like in that Gimbal video, i.e. a "bloom" and a false image. I've been saying this for years but of course the voice of reason and experience gets ignored.

[@mrknub3792]

Idk what would be more threatening: totally unknown tech from totally unknown entity.... or unknown tech from known countries?

[@spaceisalie5451]

unknown entity

[@fernie6299]

if these planes are russian or chinese....we are so forked. the tech in these aircraft is very advanced.

[@davidhaines238]

@@fernie6299 Not likely from other countries. The US has been way ahead in military tech since the close of WW2. US has much huger defence budget which keeps us way ahead. Likely annomolous. But who knows ? Perhaps inter-demensional ? Would certainly explain sattilites and other instruments not picking them up.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

Known countries are known quantities. We already know that any Earth power with this tech would abuse it. An unknown entity could go either way. It's 'definitely bad' vs 'only maybe bad'.

[@Jacob-yg7lz]

@@spaceisalie5451 Nah, because you wouldn't know the intentions of the unknown entity. That at least brings the possibility they could be chill.

[@derpuck9769]

Legend has it that werewolves are marked by unibrows in their human form. Joe has the exact opposite of a unibrow. The gap is so wide, I'm getting suspicious. They look like the plucked brows of a werewolf in hiding... just saying

[@EricManzane]

man, I had to go back to the video check that wide channel, because is not a gap anymore

[@SOLIDSNAKE.]

I knew I was a werewolve

[@aaronmendoza5131]

Who’s the guy that plays for the lakers? The worst unibrow I’ve ever seen.

[@CallanBaird]

@@aaronmendoza5131 k M I

[@artkitectbeats1622]

You clever bastard

[@nxrthco]

"lets shed some light on this" *turns lights off* funniest joke in joe scott history

[@bdunk1970]

As usual you are right on the money. The camera being the source of the ufo s being "filmed". It's that simple. I'm a photographer and that Is always something I need to be mindful of not doing. Thanks for your videos and bringing some sanity to a world of crazies.

[@PastelBrushes-n-Donuts]

Fellow photographer here and I agree.

[@altortugas5979]

Skepticism is hard, man. Confronting someone’s confirmation bias is like stabbing at their soul.

[@dragonfly6955]

Skeptics can be open-minded though and they usually don't dismiss facts and evidence cause they don't fit their own beliefs. "I don't believe it even if I see it" is more the mentality of a debunker. With no offence.

[@BlueFrenzy]

​@@dragonfly6955 critical thinking is being aware that what you can see and perceive may be wrong. If you believe that seeing something is proof of something, you are making a big mistake. That's food for your confirmation bias.

[@Daniel-yy3ty]

@@dragonfly6955 if the evidence is low quality, it should have low weight if there is a simple explanation, you shouldn't jump to extraordinary conclusions also, beware the single data point, as a mistake there will mean a skewed interpretation of what's going on without a chance to verify: one video shows a stationary object one video shows something going really fast one video shows an object rotating see what i mean?

[@dragonfly6955]

@@Daniel-yy3ty What about the radar data, what about all the witnesses that saw that stuff for years on a daily basis, what about the pilots' experience, what about the statement from the Pentagon? Context matters.

[@dragonfly6955]

@@BlueFrenzy There's a lot of data and many witnesses in support of that videos, not to mention that a portion of them is still classified and not to mention that the Pentagon admitted that objects aren't identified. We can't know the truth if we ignore on purpose all the context that surrounds that videos because it doesn't fit our own beliefs. I was expecting Scott to do some more research and be less biased before talking about that videos.

[@zerotolerance5581]

I literally know ONE person, other than you, who knows about that Werewolf show. I LOVED it.

[@davidadams2395]

As did I.

[@ryu3180]

SAME! I miss that show, and it set a precedent for Fox cancelling great golden shows... Shame Fox!

[@xzonia1]

Ditto, though I've forgotten so much of it now. I wish it were online somewhere to rewatch. X)

[@mrinfinitemonkeycage5668]

I used to watch that with my Dad when I was little.

[@artkitectbeats1622]

I forgot all about it until I saw the clip in this video.

[@jl5822]

I remember this vividly, as if it happened this morning. About 20 years ago, I was 20 years old working at a movie theatre on break with a friend. We were outside talking when his girlfriend showed up. He went over to meet here and left me standing there. I looked up on an overcast day with the sky filled of white fluffy clouds and there was one big cloud just above me with a huge open space with nothing but clear sky beyond. The cloud seemed to be motionless (light winds I'm sure) and in the middle of that open space was a white triangle. It was just sitting perfectly still. I stared at it for a moment to try and figure out what it was. Nothing came to mind. I pointed and asked my friend to look. He looked at it and said "not sure, probably just an airplane." I kept looking at it and it still wasn't moving. I then looked over to my friend, who was no longer watching (talking to GF) and I said, "Seriously? What is that? It's not moving!" I looked back and it was gone. In the span of 2-3 seconds, it was simply gone. Of course I'll never know what it was, but it seemed odd because the UFO was a clear triangle. The distance from my position to it's in the sky, I feel it was quite large for me to see it so clearly. And that is my story.

[@nathanbrandt9856]

Perhaps you wore eyeglasses with triangular shaped lenses that day? LOL

[@spencermanyet5336]

Thanks for sharing, just more evidence behind that stat of something like 50% of people have seen things like that they can't explain. It just seems odd there's so much being seen but there's nothing going on, according to skeptics at least

[@VaxzaLimeIsCool]

Could be caused by a hallucination not meaning what you saw was not real but it's more likely a hallucination, not calling you crazy because I've experienced hallucinations that were indistinguishable from reality.

[@nosferatu5]

@@spencermanyet5336 I saw a yeti fucking a unicorn. Please add my first hand sighting to your witness database.

[@geoffreystraw5268]

@@VaxzaLimeIsCool A shared hallucination? how does that work exactly?

[@RealityCheck6969]

It’s very good that now everyone has a high quality video camera in his pocket and we can all film and document and stream in real time those frequent UFO sightings all around the world. Interestingly noone has done yet. Strange...

[@mea2429]

tbf a lot of phone camera still suck really bad when trying to film things even like 50 feet away and we HAVE gotten plenty of videos, but not all of them have made it to the news or gone viral. the phoenix lights are an example of one that did

[@mea2429]

@@darklight2.1 I didn't say they exist and never go viral or that that would be evidence of anything... I said the vast majority of cameras that people have on hand at a moments notice still suck trying to film at night, or far away. I saw a mysterious event in the air and I couldn't capture it at all even with a $600 camera because I didn't have a tripod and my camera couldn't zoom enough, so it just looks like I'm filming a light that might as well have been stationary, for the amount my shaking made it look like it was moving. The video is literally useless despite me having a far better camera on hand than anyone with a smart phone or a dash cam would have had. I'm not arguing about UFOs. I'm just saying that the majority cameras still aren't helpful for these types of situations. Also, with the amount of fake UFO videos on youtube and elsewhere, most of the time they're never going to go viral or be put on the news because people plain don't believe them. It has to be an event with a huge amount of witnesses to get any traction, not just a video. And I doubt anyone who the news would listen to is combing through all those videos to determine which ones are undoctored.

[@ninamason9001]

I did actually see something about a year ago, and that was literally my first reaction--grab the phone, open the camera, and start filming. What I saw: a varying number of large, yellow-orange globes, similar to a Japanese lantern but absolutely massive, moving almost straight upward and headed south. They were very, very clearly quite bigger than planes--if a plane at that distance was about dime-sized, these were a little bigger than quarters. And I live close enough to the airport to hear when planes go over, but there was no sound from these at all. None. It felt like even the main road outside my subdivision had gotten a noise dampener put on it. What my cameraphone saw: fuzzy yellowish blobs of indeterminate size, shaking slightly (okay, actually the shaking was me, but it transferred to the camera). That weird, eerie silence was totally overshadowed by my breathing. Between the moon and the streetlights, what I was seeing stood absolutely no chance. I stood there swearing I could feel my heart stop in my chest, and...I got absolutely nothing for my pains. When I watched the video playback I was absolutely heartbroken--as a "trust but verify" kind of skeptic, if someone had shown me that video and said "here's my proof I saw UFOs," I would have told them to clean the dust off their camera lens. I actually deleted the video out of sheer disgust. Sure, you could tell from my breathing I was scared shitless, but what does that prove? I could just as easily have been terrified at having almost hit a coyote. The only thing that video proved is that my phone is shit at recording UFOs. A shaky operator (like, you know, somebody who's about ready to piss their pants because WHAT the absolute fuck is that thing), a tiny bit of atmospheric interference that's barely noticeable to the naked eye but shows up heavily on camera (dust, rain, fog), bad light metering....a lot of things can combine to create a lot of bad videos.

[@johnreeves5152]

There have been photos and videos. You are not paying attention

[@johnreeves5152]

@K1N9 Z320 Because everyone since ww2 has been reporting erroneous or intentionally false information just because you were not there to oversee them... that makes almost as much sense

[@That_guy_Pip]

So, as a faceless somebody among the masses of the comments, I can and will share the one experience I had with an incident I was unable to explain. The incident occurred while I was still in the Navy back in 2004. We were off the coast of Virginia doing harrier flight qualifications. I was a radar tech and was on watch during the afternoon. A heavy fog had rolled in bringing the flights to a halt, but I picked up a contact on my radar. Another station was able to confirm that it was there as well. Now, at this point, keep 2 things in mind: 1. All flight ops had been halted, so we had nothing in the air. 2. We had control of the immediate air space. So, I begin monitoring this contact as it hovered. I watched it accelerate and cover about 250miles in about 3 seconds. That's going from dead hover, to distance covered, to dead hover again. It did this twice before I called the tactical officer on duty. He looked at my console, confirmed it on the other station, then called up to the bridge. A few minutes later he told me I was relieved from watch, the stations in the cic were secured, and about that time, the captain and the XO come walking in. I was called to talk with Tac later on and was told that "I saw nothing, and I needed to forget about it". I bucked a little bit and was given one of those "I'm not kidding this time" looks from him. I tried checking the recorded data from my shop that night, but there was none. Everything from that day had been removed. So, a craft that can hover and accelerate to speeds enough to cover hundreds of miles in seconds, then come to a dead stop, over and over again..... That's something I would have loved to have seen. Cause I don't know of anything that can do that today, let alone in 2004.

[@jjcoola998]

They'll never believe you sadly everyone will think you mistaked a wave for a plane or some dumb shit

[@frenziedfox9106]

My father had an experience much like this. He was looking up at the night sky (we lived in the deep countryside in western Europe so the sky was very clear, you could see practically everything) and a satellite which was originally moving at a steady pace suddenly began to jerk about at very high speeds, darting all over the sky before finally zooming past the horizon. It's probably nothing, I just thought I'd share it.

[@marioguti9887]

Joe will say it was a birthday balloon going along with the wind... 🙄 Anyways, I'll share a story, not from me but my father in law. He told me that when he was young back in the late 60s, he lived in his ranch out in sticks in rural Mexico. It was night and he was relaxing with his brother and they were sitting on a big rock just outside of a small forest on their property when he saw a craft with shiny blue lights about 1000 feet away just above the tree line. He tells me that it was hovering, it emitted no sounds and then it started zig zagging in unnatural ways, quickly maneuvering from one spot to another in really fast speeds and coming to complete stops...then it moved quickly just above them for a couple of seconds before it sped away, the whole experience lasted about a minute or so. Now my father in law is a non nonsense guy, he never claimed it was extraterrestrial, however he has said that he knows for sure that that air craft technology doesn't exist in 2021, and certainly didn't in the late 60s. He doesn't like talking about it and I do believe he saw something, what was it? Who knows...

[@pee-buddy]

That is basically what happens over and over all over the world. You are not alone.

[@werbeagent6003]

I thought you saw nothing and forgot about it?

[@pfoster1666]

TT: The Extra-Fresh-Terrestrial- There you go, Tic-Tac. That one's free.

[@memeju1ce]

they’re out of this world!

[@jedahn]

The fresh extra-terrestrial of Bel-Air.

[@dmeemd7787]

🤣🤣

[@Osmone_Everony]

😂

[@jarredt2655]

Tic tac! Abducting bad breath sense 1969

[@themagic8481]

So glad Lemmino got a credit on this as his video is fantastic. I highly recommend watching all his videos in fact.

[@Flaschenteufel]

I turned to Mr. Burns: "Ohhh two great channels communicating. Excellent."

[@hiimapop7755]

I always rewatch his videos. He's like the second Vsauce for me. Extremely immersive, amazing visuals, and exceptional story telling.

[@Us3r739]

Oh god not a promotion bot. Do you promote Bitcoin scammers?

[@LLPOF]

Why would aliens even want to come here. I am from here, and I don't want to be here.

[@cannibalbananas]

"You can't hinge all that on a blurry, pixelated, rotating sombrero" 😂😂😂😂 I literally almost spit out my food when you said that. Hilariously true 😂😂

[@poojithaya]

Do not agree, the videos were taken from the most advanced aircraft system at the time. These images actually give more data than visual images. Please have a look at this scientific paper by a NASA scientist about those videos. www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/21/10/939/htm

[@Earthad23]

@@poojithaya agreed ! These images have more data than mere visible light

[@rockdinosaur8619]

@@poojithaya These were not NASA scientists and they were making conclusions and calculations, again, based on the 'images' that may or not be artifacts of natural phenomena or the equipment itself. And again, not a single clear photograph of these UFOs in the visible spectrum. It's some math that doesn't prove much of anything.

[@poojithaya]

@@rockdinosaur8619 kenuth is a former NASA

[@rockdinosaur8619]

@@poojithaya Former - doesn't work at NASA.

[@bobbypaycheque]

That Close Encounters of the Third Kind musical queue was a nice touch

[@YusufGinnah]

The MIB appreciate your hard work in inserting the appropriate disinfo into the current UFO Zeitgeist... You shall be rewarded for your efforts...

[@ZeroOskul]

Google david Fravor. Just take ten seconds and look him up. I know it might be shocking but "humans lie and this is all fabricated by the military" is a better explanation than "It's not humans and they only hang out near military actions". See: FLIR airplane and balloon videos FLIR cameras exaggerate the appearance of infrared radiation so objects usually appear surrounded by a halo or field. The ocean (water, generally) reflects radiation so you can have an object above the ocean's surface and the FLIR will present it within the reflected radiation so it appears to be underwater to a person who doesn't understand or recognize this photographic technology. Also, when below the radiation threshold but above the water a reflection on the real water can make the object appear to deviate into two objects. Let aliens be out there. Our computers work so we know we understand physics and quantum mechanics well enough to say these things cannot be from elsewhere because that would defy the laws of physics. These are human contraptions presented in a way intended to confuse and excite you so you trust the need for our military all the more. Humans ARE known to lie.

[@honeysucklecat]

@@ZeroOskul ufo believers don’t care about facts. All UFO claims are full of cherry picked info. The believers can look up the debunkers if they want but they won’t. Believing and facts are not compatible

[@ZeroOskul]

@@honeysucklecat But those who think they are believing facts can learn new facts and come to new conclusions. David Fravor's credibility is the main driver of the new public interest, and he's an actor. Just google him. If I can just get people to accept that, they can accept more facts that go against their beliefs or expectations.

[@stateofopportunity1286]

Now look right here...

[@badazzl5oc625]

@@ZeroOskul I’m not saying that this does prove aliens are visiting earth or that there are even aliens at all but what I will say is that anything is possible and rather the government is being honest with us or not we will never know but what we do know for a fact that they have lied before and history tends to repeat it self. Which makes logical people like me never to know what to believe and more weaker minded people believe anything opposite that the government say due to distrust. Which just makes it even harder for logical people like yu job even harder lol

[@imabaddonkey437]

I love your bits they’re so well acted. I love how you don’t try too hard so its still natural and funny.

[@H2O_Reikura]

I have no ability to articulate my thoughts effectively and I really enjoy watching your process. Truly, thank you Joe.

[@swampwolf]

Public: "Can we talk about hyper inflation?" Government: "Aliens"

[@k.jacquottez-y.561]

yea, exactly. these things are being released to distract the public from actual issues

[@damssen3234]

If it’s a distraction, they failed miserably . We’re told there’s possibly aliens out there and apart from some geeks: No one care.

[@phillipblacklock2615]

@@k.jacquottez-y.561 You're right ! It was Trump's legislation that required the report so perhaps he thought he'd win the election and require a distraction from the many disasters he had caused.

[@swampwolf]

@@phillipblacklock2615 Name one. Name one single disaster. Biden: Border Wall Biden: Closes Pipeline There's 2, your turn.

[@SofaKingShit]

Cheaper than war.

[@theminakins815]

When I was a kid I used to think ninjas were going to sneak into our tiny bathroom window and murder me while taking a crap, because the window was too small for anyone to fit through and I thought "only a ninja could get through there" and somehow thought "yeah that's probably also going to happen"

[@equarg]

😅 True story my Grandpa told me one day…..about what happened to him in the Pacific during WW2. He and a buddy were on a ship a literal stones throw from the shore. My Grandpas buddy had to use the toilet 🚽. Welp, as he “went”, apparently a Japanese Sniper caught sight of him thru a ships port hole…..and blew his brains out. My Grandpa heard a “noise” burst into the bathroom, and saw the immediate “aftermath”. He bluntly told me “I am not to sure if it was the shit or the sniper that killed him. Both ends were bad. The Sniper may of done him a favor”. He told me this story after I took to long in the bathroom as a little girl. When finally got out he remarked “I was beginning to worry if the sniper or shit had killed you”. He NEVER talked about the war, avoided the topic. But I guess my confusion and curiosity make him a bit more chatty on the subject then normal. I also figured out my Grandpa had a phobia of Bathroom Windows. They were a huge “NOPE” for him. Let’s just say, the house he had built had no bathroom Windows in there…or they were go glazed that you could not tell if it was day or night outside. He retired a Brigadier General after the Cuban Missile Crisis. He was no coward. But war leaves both physical and emotional scars on survivors. Physically, Grandpa had a Japanese bomb land next to him…caused hearing issues in his “bomb ear”. Emotionally, bathroom Windows were a NOPE for him. RIP Grandpa….. P.S. so it’s ok to dislike bathroom Windows. As a female, I fear perverts looking in. My Grandpas buddy was technically killed by a ninja…who used a gun thru the small ship port Window.

[@peterpayne2219]

It was the apes from Planet of the Apes for me

[@theminakins815]

@@equarg thanks for that ride, that's a crazy story. This window was that frosted glass in an old trailer with a tiny window I just thought a ninja would crawl Through it and attack me haha. Really glad I never thought about snipers. And yeah I worry about perverts all the time as a trans girl haha

[@theminakins815]

@@peterpayne2219 those apes were freaky

[@equarg]

@@theminakins815 It’s the one story Grandpa told me in detail. He…..saw Hell and avoided the topic like the plague. So whenever I see houses with huge windows…..especially in bathrooms, I say NOPE.

[@MashaRistova]

I was TERRIFIED of spontaneous human combustion when I was a kid. Lol

[@peterashby-saracen3681]

I'm totally with you on this! I'd love to see that unequivocal evidence, but these videos are singularly unimpressive and you do a very good job of evaluating them in a way that concludes that at present they fall way short of anything truly convincing. Honestly.... we're talking the the American military here. With all their massive resources and super-advanced tech, is that really the best they can come up with? I'm open to developments but I remain to be convinced.

[@Sabitar1]

Every time I see a video like this of yours it makes me feel so damn happy I found your channel. Love your take on things, I just connect so much with the way you go about these topics. Thanks for doing such a great job Joe!

[@billtodd7693]

The "SA" referred to in the audio track refers to a radar display. The radar display is classified, and therefore couldn't be released. The FLIR's purpose isn't to provide high definition optical imagery, and it wasn't the only sensor on the aircraft. Because the targets were detected on the radar; the range, altitude, heading, and speed were known to the crew.

[@ascherlafayette8572]

Acktchually SA stands for "Situational Awarness" which is a display in the hornet that functions sort of like an HSI. It combines information primarily from the aircrafts sensors and from link 16.

[@geesehoward700]

Im glad we can make stealth jets but aliens cant

[@williamwillaims]

@@ascherlafayette8572 .....so like a radar "display"....?

[@mainsource8030]

@@geesehoward700 BUT THEY CAN , THE CRAFT WERE ACTIVELY JAMMING THE RADAR, thats stealth

[@williamwillaims]

@@geesehoward700 According to Lou Elizondo and Christopher Mellon what ever these things are they are growing more bold. The sightings are becoming more frequent and beginning to show them selves or itself more often. Some of these sightings are from as far back as 2004, Jeremy Corbell is about to release some very recent footage. Supposedly some high def "4K" clear images. BUUTTT.....Thought experiment time. Assume for a moment these are, actually craft not from out little blue planet and there are AI systems or actual biological entities inside. So Aliens. If video/photos/pilot testimony/ etc was release then confirmed by various governments, even multiple nations for instance. I don't think people would believe they are real. Video manipulation has become so cheap and sophisticated to the point where I watch Alien sci-fi's and think hell that looks basically "real". How could we tell the difference, in fact how do we even know what to expect. What if they move in a way very similar to how a CGI character would move. How would we even compare them? Even in real life there are magic performances that trick 1000s of people watching into thinking something is actually happening. So even if it landed on a football field I still don't think people would believe it. People who say they are waiting for the 4k version will just say, well wheres the 8K version. and on and on it will go.

[@mattlassen5948]

What is your opinion of the famous December, 1980 Rendlesham Forest UFO incident which occurred on a US Air Force base in Suffolk County England and witnessed by at least two ostensibly very respectable Air Force officers? That story always stood out to me as having more credibility than most.

[@JonFrumTheFirst]

About 20 years ago there was a TV documentary on an old rape case. A man was convicted and had spent many years in prison. The victim had told the court 'He's the man who raped me - I looked into his eyes as he did it, and I'll never forget him.' When DNA technology came around, it was proven that it wasn't him. It was a man serving time in prison at that time. The victim had been shown a photo lineup, and it was that she remembered. At the end of the show, she said that she accepted that the man she accused was innocent, but added that she still sees his face when she remembers the rape. Sincere, reasonable people can be TERRIBLE eyewitnesses. There are so many cases of witnesses getting things totally wrong that there's no arguing it. I respect the pilots for their service, but when they claim that they see these things every day for a year, I have to check out. Just because you're an experienced pilot, I don't have to take a stupid pill.

[@lynnefox4892]

My dad was a USAF pilot, and he told us he saw many things he couldn't explain. But he also made certain we understood that "unidentified" does not equal (necessarily) "extraterrestrial."

[@Slothery]

*makes a UFO debunking video* "Please don't send me death threats" What a time to be alive

[@xmrsmartx2091]

All I saw was Lemmino excerpts

[@yoursotruly]

For now.

[@Direwolf9818]

“Debunking”

[@iceman90734]

This was an awesome video, however, it's likely that the last video shown was indeed real audio. What we are seeing is released ATFLIR footage, and what the pilots are talking about is checking the SA (Situational Awareness) page, remember, the Super Hornet has 3 MFDs JUST for the pilot, and another 3 in the back for the WSO, meaning, that each of them could be displaying 6 unique pages. Seeing as the WSO calls to the pilot to take a look at the SA page and they are both clearly looking at the FLIR page, we know where 4 of the pages are displaying information. Small tangent there but pointing out that what they see at any one time is more info than these released videos EVEN assuming the pilots are as close to these instruments as possible. Anyhow, the SA page is a top down view of the aircraft, it displays your plane in the middle, and gives a lot of extra info, what is important here, is that it shows your planes radar information (which, we know the plane is also tracking this on radar as we can see it on the FLIR page) and the radar continues searching outside of the locked target as well. Not only does it show what YOUR plane sees, it also displays DataLink info. This means that any other military aircraft in the area (on our side anyway) is broadcasting the information they see, and your plane is receiving and displaying that information. They do know windspeed as this information is given to them at any point in time, and while this changes according to altitude, they are co-altitude, so this information would be accurate. Basically, it rotating according to the ATFLIR has a good explanation you brought up, the fact that they are stating it was travelling against the wind is not explained. HOWEVER, the caveat to that is they could very well have been not paying attention to wind direction or simply flipped it. This is not super likely, but definitely possible, if the clip was longer it would be easy to know how they started the encounter and how it ended to get a better clue on how sure they were on wind speed/direction. TL;DR Great video, the audio of the Gimbal video was almost certainly not faked, all other explanations given were fantastic, keep up the great work.

[@seeleagent]

He’s also wrong on the first video, it’s clearly phone footage through a pvs14 tube.

[@dsdy1205]

All those explanations are well and good, but how is the windspeed 120 knots? You can't even say the 'knots' is actually a garbled 'degrees' which might save it, you can hear the 'o' vowel very clearly.

[@iceman90734]

@@dsdy1205 Which part are you talking about? The movement of the object in the ATFLIR video was calculated at 20-30knots...not 120...if you're talking about something different please let me know, maybe with like a timestamp. The part I'm referring to is here: 14:16

[@dsdy1205]

@@iceman90734 The part where you mention the pilots talking about checking the SA page, that isn't the timestamp you linked, it's the later one where Joe argues that the ATFLIR camera is just rotating. In that same conversation either the pilot or the WSO says that it's moving against the wind, and the wind is '120 knots '. That alone should disqualify the audio as authentic, I don't think any pilot would be that conversational or busy locking up random objects if the wind was 120 kts in their vicinity.

[@iceman90734]

@@dsdy1205 Oh damn I was looking at the other video then, let me rewatch the one with the WSO (it has been quite a while since I watched the vid and made the original comment)

[@conraddickinson24]

Joe, I 100% agree with your point of view on these videos. As Carl Sagan said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary." The videos are suspect for the reasons you gave. I say "well done," Joe for keeping a level head and demanding actual evidence.

[@The1stLumiens]

Dude, I love your openness and your willingness to open up. We all have things that keep us up at night.

[@kirtwillis9144]

Joe, as usual, you have given a well-considered and fact-oriented presentation. Real science happens when skeptics ask questions.

[@theotherebikeguy1473]

Sceptics and debunkers are two different things...

[@BoWeava]

@@theotherebikeguy1473 One thinks and one does?

[@soopademus1]

Science demonstrates art. Thank you to all the creatives out

[@axnyslie]

I didn't know septic tanks can ask questions.

[@BoWeava]

@@axnyslie Yea, it's a rare thing to see, but they're usually full of shit anyhow.

[@seiboldtadelbertsmiter3735]

The timing of the release needs to be taken into account. What was going on at the time and did this draw attention away from something that should have been a big deal but got buried by this

[@ScoreGuru123]

Like what?

[@RuhollahNakhaee]

I dunno there's a pandemic. People ran out of new stuff to watch I guess. They thought hey, let's have them watch this now. I'unno.

[@damiion666]

Con-Speer-atheee!!

[@richard6196]

That's a very interesting perpective no things.

[@KSTrekker]

I wouldn’t doubt that this is something cooked up by the US and Chinese government to move us further towards a one world government. If you can scare people into thinking we need to be allied against an alien invasion, they will give up their money, possessions, and sovereignty.

[@forformgamer]

I always find it interesting that we almost expect aliens to visit us through interstellar travel, but still find it logical that they "get caught in the act". We have planes that are almost invisible to radar, but those interstellar traveling creatures get fooled by that? I want it all to be true, but it's pretty hard to believe xD

[@bruzote]

And we believe the aliens keep visiting a stupid spot in the US desert and they also keep visiting US armed forces, but only over the ocean. If they visit foreigners, they take on different shapes than in the US. Clearly, these are cultural, not extraterrestrial, phenomena.

[@BrandonCase]

Joe, you’ve grown so much over the course of this channel. Proud of your brain, bro

[@Mega_Mikey]

Proud of your brain, bro

[@addamriley5452]

Proud of your brain... did it grow from a centimetre to an inch? There’s so much that has to be thrown out for his nonsense to have any credibility.

[@Mega_Mikey]

@@addamriley5452 it’s not aliens

[@addamriley5452]

@@Mega_Mikey I know it’s not aliens... I’m an alien believer and I can tell you right now that the triangle is Northrup, and the tic tac is Lockheed... the saucer is a joint op possibly with an ET craft but possibly ours... the saucers are harder to discern but the principle of gravitic propulsion is the same... we were the first to say it’s not aliens and we KNOW they’re real.

[@Frankie_Holt]

I am a time traveler. I travel forward through spacetime at a 1:1 ratio.

[@dakrisis]

*spacetime And objective observers may object to this statement.

[@Frankie_Holt]

@@dakrisis corrected. I was running on about 2.5 hours sleep when I found myself humorous enough to reply to the video. 👍🏼

[@gs4984]

I love how he got so worried the comments would be mad at him lol I see nothing but love here

[@Ron-rs2zl]

I come looking for the death threats

[@taurasuzdila]

Hateful comments usually come later, because early after the video is uploaded most viewers are subscribers.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

some threads are already at 200 replies are you looking for a blood bath? just open any one of those I guarantee you'll find it there

[@bearcubdaycare]

I'd be more worried about the aliens getting their revenge with a long, sloooow probe, in one of the worst corners of the galaxy...

[@crtinde]

"Look, this isn't a bunch of yokels saying that aliens probed their butts or batted around their knockers..." ROFL!!! Best line in a KZbin video ever!!

[@craigh5236]

You know, I hope all this is not aliens from space because that means they came here saw us and then decided 'nah, no way we are going to say hello'

[@ibnorml]

Smart aliens...

[@SquirrelASMR]

I've they've seen our president Trump and former vice president Biden, I can understand why.

[@Mike-zu1md]

Idk we have the potential to become quite the species

[@SquirrelASMR]

@@Mike-zu1md we flushed that potential down the toilet known as america... the world is going to be a piece of trash Chinese biohazard

[@Totalinternalreflection]

@@SquirrelASMR America is a failed colony but the human species will prevail. Curb your racism.

[@tks8096]

I, for one, welcome our new JetBlue overlords.

[@rogerwilco1777]

..1st carry-on free, all others 60$

[@gertpacu3926]

I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.

[@proto-geek248]

Well, of course. They have TVs on the backs of their seats.

[@cl37167]

"I mean that for my knowledge of the world that I see around me, I think that it is much more likely that the reports of flying saucers are the result of the known irrational characteristics of terrestrial intelligence rather than the unknown rational efforts of extraterrestrial intelligence." - Richard Feynman

[@nathanlevesque7812]

lovely quote

[@saintjackula9615]

Absolutely beautiful.

[@MySerpentine]

What about irrational extraterrestrials?

[@dimi3446]

Well the army calls them crypto-terrestrials. They’re terrestrials but not human. Got that?

[@dimi3446]

Crypto means hidden in Greek. “Hidden-terrestrials”~

[@ShellSellars-Smith]

My Uncle who passed this Month maintained until his death that he and my Aunt (who has also passed away years before and who use to get very angry if you mentioned the incident because she was in fear of being picked up and sent to the "crazy house" she refused to speak of it). They (my uncle/Aunt) were in their teens sitting outside her house and a silent silver (some sort of metal) with a Blue/Green light pulsating at the top. It was very silent. It was about 30-40 foot oblong/round shaped. He said it was the most incredible experience of his life. He said this on his death bed even thought I had heard this story many times throughout my life and always thought it was crazy. He maintained it was not of this World and it flew so fast up in the air that he felt it vanished and all they saw was the Blue/Green light. It also interfered with the TV antennas of the time and a neighbor came out to blame them for the interference.

[@CRneu]

your use of parenthesis is really hard to follow.

[@MildlyDampElk]

Man just described a helicopter.....it drone