Finally a proper soloist trying out carbon bows with an open mind and talking objectively and not about "magical powers" of wood. Excellent video
@genloke982 жыл бұрын
For quick comparisons 6:36 Conventional CF bow 8:46 French bow 10:35 Soloist's own gold mounted bow 13:16 T7 round 15:48 M7 round 18:42 P7 octagonal 21:39 S7 octagonal
@RobManser77 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. To help further, here are direct links further into each section: firstly the mid-range piece he played (sorry, I don’t know the name) and then the low range piece (intro to Brahms E minor sonata). 6:56 7:17 Conventional CF Bow 9:11 9:33 French bow 10:55 11:15 Soloist's own bow 13:35 13:55 T7 round 16:07 16:30 M7 round 19:01 19:22 P7 octagonal 21:56 22:17 S7 octagonal
@RobManser77 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison, I’ve been listening with interest as I’d like a new bow and have never tried carbon fibre. I currently play with a Pernambuco bow I chose from a trial of five about 15 years ago. I'm not very good at the cello, but I do like a nice sound 🙂 I’ve listened with fairly good headphones and my decent hi-fi back and forth to the two wood bows in the mid-range extract Johannes plays: 9:11 and 10:55, and in the low-range Brahms extract: 9:33 and 11:15, and compared to the same extracts with the Arcus T7 carbon bow: 13:35 and 13:55. To my ears, the two wooden bows have a warmth and roundness to the sound. With the French bow (the first of my two links) this is pure and smooth, and with Johannes’ own bow (second links), this has a slight, almost nasal, edge to it. The carbon bows? Well, the T7 sounds immediately clearer and more defined, but in doing so it seems to have lost the warmth and roundness to the sound - it’s a little harsh. This is a good thing in the Brahms he plays, as there’s warmth and depth in abundance inherently with the low strings and we can enjoy the extra edge and clarity the carbon bow gives; but with the mid-range that inherent warmth isn’t there so strongly, and I prefer the sound from this part of the cello's range being bolstered by the warmer sound the wooden bows generate. I found similar with the M and the S. By the way, what is the P7? It’s not listed on Arcus’ website, either for their current cello range (www.arcus-muesing.de/en/products/cellobows.html) or past cello ranges (www.arcus-muesing.de/en/products/cellobows/special-models-and-earlier-series.html). It's only listed for the violin.
@svenhannes64603 жыл бұрын
Ein toller, ausdrucksstarker Test, der sich auch absolut mit meinen Erfahrungen deckt!
@ultracello2 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Thank you recording this! I'm using S8 oct and it's the best bow I played so far. Have a nice cello play, man!
@omarteran9343 ай бұрын
Yeah just bought an S6 and it was a very huge upgrade. greetings from Mexico!
@JohannesRaabCellist3 ай бұрын
Congratulations! I played my Mexico tour last year with a S6 too. Now Arcus made a „Johannes Raab“ model. A JR9 if you want. It is incredible.
@rikbardyn59143 жыл бұрын
That was really very interesting ! Thx for sharing your experience !
@YolandaMarcelaEnriquezMendez3 жыл бұрын
Genial!!! Excelente video!! lo compartiré con mis amigos/alumnos de violín, teníamos dudas con los arcos de fibra de carbono, mil gracias por compartir tu experiencia con nosotros.
@geraldliu303 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. In these recordings, I can really hear the difference. I will be trialing the P6, P7, and P8 very soon for my viola. In the end you liked the octagonal or round carbon bows?
@RobManser77 Жыл бұрын
There are quite a lot of comparisons out there that use cheap microphones and as such are a waste of time. I recently upgraded from a £1000 beginner's cello to a £5000 intermediate cello and the difference to my ears was pretty big. When I had them both together at home I recorded a video using a standard, but decent, webcam, and they sounded the same! I recently got the opportunity to try my old cello again and yep, huge difference, in fact it appears bigger now I'm used to the new one.
@Kwert3 жыл бұрын
While the number grading doesn’t necessarily mean the bow is going to be “better” for you or your cello, I would encourage you to try the 8 range. When I was trying Arcus bows I tried within the range of 5 to 9, and for me the S8 round stick ended up being the best. Of course it’s largely personal (I had colleagues that preferred the M6 largely based on feel), but I felt a pretty significant difference between the S7 and 8, and not much of a difference between the 8 and 9.
@JohannesRaabCellist3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Good advice! I think I will visit the guys from Arcus in the near future and try everything they have.
@GoeyvaertsStringTrio3 жыл бұрын
I just tried the S8 octagonal. A real phenomenal bow
@cellist.guillermo_ortega2 жыл бұрын
May I ask where did you find the little pieces for improving your grip in a normal bow (described at 25:55) and which material are they made of? Thanks in advance!
Having heard your bows carefully with good studio speakers, I have to tell you that your French bow is the best, because of its spiritually healing condition. Sorry, arcus do not have that yet.