John-CA | The Bible Is Smarter Than You! | The Atheist Experience 26.45

[@TheMusicalStylingsofBrentBunn]

There's no hate like Christian love.

[@MrCanis4]

Their god so full of love and that's why they love 'hate' so much

[@az8theist977]

That's my new bumper sticker. Well done!

[@revwillyg6450]

He loves you, so love him back, or he'll burn you in a fire forever. Makes sense, right?😂

[@TheMusicalStylingsofBrentBunn]

​@@acefighter682 I don't remember saying these things. If I may ask, why do you feel this way?

[@polarfroge]

Or.....is there no love like christian hate? Semantics, eh?

[@jettythesunfish]

"The Bible is smarter than mankind!" Bible: Bats are birds.

[@zoggdawg8141]

Bible: talking animals.

[@Danny451]

🤣

[@canbest7668]

@@Danny451 Smallest seed is mustard

[@wyett123]

Bible: God created light before stars Me: wait a minute 🤔

[@Julian0101]

There were plants before the sun

[@jayreynolds7069]

John is a perfect representative of Christianity

[@Brammy007a]

yea.... absolutely pathetic

[@dannyspitzer1267]

Yup. Pure delusion

[@claudiasolomon1123]

@@dannyspitzer1267 oooo I remember you. You are one of our most famous trolls. So how has your trolling been going today🤔??

[@TBomb39]

@@claudiasolomon1123 Don't you mean MCD? @Danny Spitzer is cool.

[@iAtheist4Life]

@@youhaveaGodregardlesscreature You have a pair of nuts on your chin whether you believe it or not, _preacher._

[@TheAntiburglar]

This is not only sad, it's infuriating. The absolute smug condescension dripping from this caller's words is beyond insulting, and that's not even touching the spectacularly awful arguments made.

[@makeamericagreatagainwithtrump]

🔊ATHEISM IN 2022? REALLY!!!!! 💣💣💣😂😂

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

@@makeamericagreatagainwithtrump 👈 obvious troll is obvious AF!

[@johnd.shultz7423]

smug condescention IS the meat and taters of the x-tian religion....

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

@@youhaveaGodregardlesscreature you have non-magical chemicals, regardless.

[@TBomb39]

@@youhaveaGodregardlesscreature Religion is a smile on a dog.

[@marcimarce1207]

It's scary how many people live in a delusional fantasy world.

[@dx1450]

What's worse, they insist that you live in that delusional fantasy world, too.

[@francmittelo6731]

They are not delusional. If Christians are delusional, then so is everybody else, because not everything we believe can be proven with 100% certainty. Believing in a lie does not make one delusional.

[@latetodagame1892]

I'm living the dream!

[@makdrumz]

Yeah I know…I used to be one of those ☹️ knowledge and scientific research actually opens your eyes and leads you to logic…and is also a creative and fun process!

[@itsaboutthattime4425]

@@dx1450 and then they hate you when you decide you don’t want to join them.

[@georgem2334]

This is your brain on religion.

[@dawkinrich2051]

Yes, atheism is stronger than crack cocaine.

[@jaycox5804]

Ha...ha...ha ...hallerious I agree ..Bullseye ! ...nice shot george .

[@marcimarce1207]

That sums it all up!

[@porch.honky.420]

@@youhaveaGodregardlesscreature prove it.

[@Lupinemancer87]

It's sad.

[@dannyspitzer1267]

Like all theists, John's brain has been deep fried in a giant vat of religious grease. Extra crispy.

[@Jabbatic]

Don't forget the side order of char-broiled DERP!

[@dawkinrich2051]

You were duped with atheist sophistry. Extra bigotry.

[@TBomb39]

Man, that grease has to be incredibly nasty by now. It's the same grease since the first mistake of Genesis 1.

[@spicyshizz2850]

@@dawkinrich2051 bro u asked for evidence for atheism, I think u need to worry more about who’s duping who lmao

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

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[@queezle4277]

Calls like this are frustrating but are so good at holding a mirror up to questioning and more logical Christians. Really shows them how ridiculous their religion is

[@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers]

I find, in my limited experience, whenever a theist has nowhere to go in an argument, it often ends with, “You’re going to hell”.

[@Ozone280]

Imagine being one of Darmer's victims in heaven and finding out he's just moved in next door!

[@MrKit9]

Nobody in Heaven will move in next door to Dahmer.

[@petem.3719]

Heaven and Christianity suffer from the same fundamental problem. Too many Christians. Dahmer would be no worse than anyone else there. I'd just as soon go to hell than spend eternity with a bunch of damn Christians.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

@@MrKit9 since heaven is imaginary thats true.

[@thenaturalmidsouth9536]

Imagine being one of his victims in hell and knowing the guy who raped, murdered and then ATE you is spending eternity in paradise.

[@angelman906]

Well, considering a lot of them were gay they wouldn’t, which is an even bigger fuck you in my opinion.

[@suburban-vampire]

"HEY MAN! I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING, AND I AM HERE TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT!"

[@Danny451]

🤣

[@canbest7668]

That would make a great T-Shirt

[@suburban-vampire]

@@canbest7668 I think I may legit try to make these. I have OK graphics skill and think I can manage all caps 😎

[@canbest7668]

@@suburban-vampire I will buy one!

[@TBomb39]

Someone in another channel, when asked why they always use all-caps, replied "That's the only way that I know of, to make my posts stand out" Lol.

[@alkristopher]

I love how this guy COMPLETELY deflates after one single question made from a calm, rational mind. Basically dude hit a wall and staggered back in a daze.

[@hakureikura9052]

What!? Timestamp it for us man. This is 17 min. long...

[@marasmusine]

@@hakureikura9052 It's the first question asked 1:18. John can't be honest so just rambles on incoherently.

[@marasmusine]

Oh, there's more to pick from! 6:10 as well

[@hakureikura9052]

@@marasmusine nice 👍 when videos go more than 10 minutes, people's attention span usually already gone. We then need time stamps for that so people can go to the meat of the matter, rather than listen to theists incoherent rambling, which is painful to the ears. Especially when they say so much only to mean nothing at all.

[@scottfulton267]

He finally stops dancing around the question and answers around 8:20

[@simonkoster]

When arguments fail there's always the threats ...

[@PapaDon46]

Sometimes I feel sad because I'm not as smart as I would like to be. Then someone like John from CA calls and I feel like Aristotle. 🧑‍🎓

[@porch.honky.420]

Same here.

[@rembrandt972ify]

Even though he was a bright guy, Aristotle was wrong about almost everything. Don't worry, John feels like he is smart enough for the both of you.

[@Refertech101]

@@rembrandt972ify But Aristotle had the lagit excuse of true ignorance, now days John does not!

[@rembrandt972ify]

@@Refertech101 You can always find an excuse. 🤪

[@csweezey18]

Aristotle was kind of an idiot, though.

[@averagebear5889]

A true christian will sooner or later resort to threats when their arguments turn to shit.

[@iAtheist4Life]

Unfortunately.

[@a.g.m8790]

@@iAtheist4Life fortunately. That’s slowly but steadily turning normies away from their bizarre and hateful dogma

[@iAtheist4Life]

@@a.g.m8790 Good.

[@a.g.m8790]

@@iAtheist4Life hell yea. I’m so glad they can’t help themselves

[@jacksonrajman9006]

That's not a true Christian, that's an idiot! Oh wait they're the same thing, my bad!

[@jasons8479]

John's mind must be what hell is like. That poor guy is obviously living in perpetual torment in this life.

[@bswantner2]

Grew up with fundie parents. Cowards, mentally. They hide reality inside the littlest Russian doll. Shouldn't have made me literate by three AND been fans of the founding fathers. Thomas Paine's 'Age of Reason' was a quick read at 15. Leaving behind any semblance of belief was an even quicker decision.

[@khill8645]

'Jeffrey Dahmer can be forgiven for his youthful transgressions' was not the direction I expected this to take...

[@wyett123]

If they're honest...it always leads this way. Otherwise they stutter and stammer

[@Julian0101]

Would that mean if his transgressions were later on life then he couldnt be forgiven?

[@khill8645]

@@Julian0101 Pretty sure, given the smoothbrain theology of the caller, that it means he'd have to ask for forgiveness again (or that he'd have to ask for forgiveness _and mean it_ since apparently True Christians™ don't sin)

[@TBomb39]

@Stoned Nihilist Actually, by Xtian dogma, Dahmer's in heaven, and his victims most likely are in hell.

[@Ironraven001]

It's exactly where I thought this would go. Of course they love the cannibal. Have you ever been to a church? Blood of Christ? Lol

[@dirkmolen9392]

The fact that John takes FOREVER to answer a simple yes/no question is really telling...

[@Bijoux_DerWunderCatsen]

Apparently when god washes away our sins, several IQ points get washed away too.

[@iAtheist4Life]

That's a good one. 😂

[@chiricahuaapache5132]

More like 30 in John's case, from 85 to 55.

[@mikesmith1181]

@@chiricahuaapache5132 and I think 75 is the cutoff for being retarded. John started off pretty low...

[@ericdellinger6260]

You are correct! When our sins are washed away, it's standard to take the right 2 digits off of your IQ. Apparently with this caller, his IQ was only double digits to start with...

[@Columbiastargazer]

and still ZERO evidence for some magical invisible sky daddy

[@Jabbatic]

You've got to give the believers some credit for all the hard work they put in asserting its 'power', 'agency' and 'existence'. Such a shame that, in thousands of years, every one of them has produced zero, zilch, nada, nil, none, nought, zip, nul, ኒል, Զրո, শূন্য, ʻAʻole, אֶפֶס, शून्य, Nulla, Ekkert, ноль, leai, शून्यम्, nol, nialas, Нула, neoni... and all the other ways in too many languages you can write 'not a damn thing!' regarding evidence of their brand of sky daddy. But they all do suffer from a severe case of bloviation, with complications caused by an excess of purest bullshit, the poor deluded things! 🤣🤣

[@wyett123]

I'd be willing to fake believe a sky daddy. That sounds hot 😂

[@dawkinrich2051]

and still ZERO evidence a concoction of chemicals came from the OBLIVION and made everything.

[@Columbiastargazer]

@@youhaveaGodregardlesscreature nope, you poorly educated child

[@jquest99]

@@Columbiastargazer He was going on and on about how heartbroken he was that Matt had left and he was going to stop trolling this channel. But because he's a theist, his morality is based on an imaginary god creature, so he is OK with outright lying.

[@ari1234a]

If sin, as I have been told, breaks the laws of the gods, then as an atheist I cannot break them. Atheists cannot be sinners, sinners are people who believe in that particular god and the laws they believe in. These "laws" only apply to those who live in the country/religion/god governed by these laws.

[@Sydney_With_A_Why]

An inanimate object probably is smarter than John.

[@boarder6246]

I’ve had more intelligent conversations with a furby

[@cubonefan3]

Don’t insult the callers intelligence, please

[@willdwyer6782]

@@cubonefan3 it isn't an insult if it's the truth.

[@Sydney_With_A_Why]

@@cubonefan3 I'm not insulting, I'm agreeing.

[@duncanbryson1167]

Rocks rock 😉

[@1414141x]

I live in the UK and I can honestly say I have not met any of my countrymen spew out this kind of crap ! Yes, we have Christians of various shapes and taste but you just don't get this weird stuff. I am 66 years of age and I have never heard anyone speak this kind of garbage. I listen to quite a few American atheist programmes because I find some of the callers are so delusional is quite entertaining.

[@ministryofarguments3525]

In the US religions are not governed by the state and are allowed to adversely influence the society from a independent position of power. The fact that religions have managed to infiltrate their way into politics all the way to the top and corrupt the society through and through is a major reason for the religious weirdness that comes out of the US.

[@TBomb39]

Yes, the seppos here are full-on muppets, science help me.

[@alangriffiths2100]

I also live in theUK but I have met some one who spewed out this crap, he was a jobo (Jehovah witness in case any one doesn’t know). He told me that he had total proof of the existence of a god, and then showed me a passage from the watch tower. My favourite American evangelist is Kenneth Copeland. Please send him over to us so that he can blow away our political problems.

[@MPM6785ChitChat]

It's Genetic 😃 The initial wave of invited Immigrants - 185O's then second 1900 to America were people who were mostly victims of persecution - religious mainly. Mix of :- Puritan, Anglican, Quaker, Calvinist, Lutheran religions plus Jews, Politicos etc .

[@rectorsquid]

It sounds like you are just insulting other people, based on the country they live in, to make yourself feel superior. People where I live don't do that sort of thing.

[@Gdwmartin]

I admire your patience guys. These theists that call into the show are maddening on times

[@jayv9779]

You know when they pull out the "bible is perfect" they have abandoned reason.

[@woody4269]

Love how Kenneth deals with theists. Truth and humour. Always gets me smiling. 🍻✌️

[@1414141x]

Kenneths tactics - deflection and denial with the occasional straw man thrown in.

[@woody4269]

@@1414141x yep. Truth and humour woody.

[@jdevlin1910]

The joy he has in his belief that others will suffer eternally is wild to hear

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

the judges are all holding up "9"s for johns mental gymnastics performance

[@johnosullivan675]

Being stuck in the same afterlife as John - CA for eternity sounds like hell to me.

[@_Omega_Weapon]

A perfect (maximized in every conceivable way) being would be free of wants, needs and desires. It would be perfectly content. It would have no need to create anything at all much less DEMAND it's creations to glorify it for eternity or torture them eternally for not believing it exists.

[@cheftr1]

I would argue that perfection is incapable of creation, because any creation would necessarily lower the quality of existence.

[@LuminesBreezer--]

And what believers don't, and never will understand, is how much this counters the claim of 'free will'. If you were brought here with two choices to either worship whichever god you devote your life to, or suffer for eternity, what is free will?

[@wyett123]

@@cheftr1 I'd more so argue perfection is incapable of creating imperfection

[@denverarnold6210]

@@wyett123 unless they did it on purpose, but that's a whole new bag of worms.

[@wyett123]

@@denverarnold6210 😂 that just takes us back to why would a perfect being want to create anything

[@carlmalone4011]

"Just answer the fucking question" ! Dave rocks.

[@ksiistoyiiwa]

I love how John tried to use the "I'm the one who called in - I get to ask the questions" gambit.

[@acfkelly6291]

We all knew the answer. They tell CHILDREN they're banned for hell. After the child watches the church forgive their abusers

[@lnsflare1]

Or watches their abusers be the ones giving other people forgiveness.

[@Leszek.Rzepecki]

John of CA is the sort of arrogant Christian who confirms me in my belief that giving up Christianity like an alcoholic gives up booze is the best decision I ever made. Not that that I was ever a religious addict like John of CA. He's a sad case, and would make a bad neighbour, lousy friend and absolutely horrible spouse.

[@chiricahuaapache5132]

You're so right.

[@raysingley7069]

Not if he found a wife that believes the same bs

[@eileenmiller9914]

John's beliefs are disgusting! He basically called to preach.Who would want to be in heaven, even it were real?

[@luvyatubers]

If there is a heaven I don't believe God is there. He put his mistakes on planet Earth and abandoned us. And if he did attempt to help by sending jeebus, Earthlings were unkind. Which makes even more reason to fly far away and disappear from us forever. There is only helll and we are all going there

[@AnnaP-uh3mc]

Right! I do not want to be in heaven with John and Jeffrey Dahlmer thanks

[@bryanblalack4340]

Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.

[@simonbelmont1]

Frightened caller couldn't answer any simple questions. Poor guy.

[@porkyboy4226]

I'm blown away by John's smartness!!😂

[@archersomers]

Perfect example ." Religion makes otherwise normal people do and say wicked and disgusting things,"

[@1414141x]

Thankfully we no longer live in a world where you can get murdered for not believing in a god. Unless you live in a fanatical muslim country of course.

[@petem.3719]

"Good people do good things. Bad people do bad things. For a good person to do bad things...that takes religion".

[@redmed10]

Took a bit of time but John did eventually answer the question.

[@sparki9085]

8 whole minutes to answer a single yes or no question. Incredible

[@scottfulton267]

It was very hard for him to admit it. All those 8 minutes, he was trying to prime Dave and Ken for his despicable "yes" answer.

[@jtdavis62]

What kind of monster would throw its creations into "hell"? It's a stupid concept only believed by stupid people.

[@AmericaTheSimpleMinded]

He’s in a blind panic to not answer a simple question and just wants to repeat his script he knows is nonsense.

[@feedingravens]

Do not be so harsh - he does not know that this is nonsense. In his bubble that alll makes total sense, and after this onslaught of reality he will flee back into his bubble and forget all this. These people have been conditioned to not perceive certain things. When you have this strategy to set out your perception, you can live a happy and easy life in peace. Just as people here in Germany learned not to perceive certain things, to not look in certain directions, where jewish shops were taken over by christians and jewish families moved away or disappeared suddenly. Great effort was made by the regime to maintain normality, to keep people distracted. You could live a normal, harmless life, never seeing anything bad. They maintained that largely even throughout the war. Moves like "Die Feurzangenbowle"; "Münchhausen", "Große Freiheit Nr. 7" were produced far into the war, and are totally unpolitical, absolutely harmless, you can watch them with fun and do not need to have a bad conscience. That is the application of the same principle as that what christianity does.

[@iAtheist4Life]

When John laughed around 2:23, I thought he was about to have a mental breakdown. 😂

[@AmericaTheSimpleMinded]

⁠@@feedingravens I understand 110%. Not to seem condescending but I was a devout Baptist who went to a far right evangelical baptist school. I was this guy for most of my teen years. Then the pendulum swing a little to far in the other direction and had that prideful feeling of nonbelievers after I felt like I “escaped” something and everyone around me needed me to tell them that! Now I’m completely comfortable saying I don’t know if there’s a deity/creator behind all this chaos. I say I don’t believe YET but this is the forum for it I think. So yea, I shouldn’t be so harsh. Maybe it’s because I see some of myself in some of these guys! However all that said, in order to have a productive, mature, honest conversation you need to contribute to it. He’s learning how but he’s got too many scripts to go through that revolve around his personal/emotional needs. Which as you said is ingrained.

[@PramodKumar-gy8lb]

Einstein : Imagination is more important than knowledge. John the caller : Let me take that to a whole new level.

[@feedingravens]

John has ZERO own imagination. He believes what he is told is The Truth by the self-proclaimed mouthpieces of God on earth. He has no choice, he was persuaded that he will go to hell when he doubts anything, and he believes the word of God (spread through the mouthpieces) is perfect and true and so cannot be changed. He is not allowed to ponder over it, and was told that God's wisdom is beyond the human understanding. So it makes no sense to think about the teachings and think that you found flaws. Per definition there are none, you are just too dumb to know. The true wisdom is to understand you do not have to understand, you are just right like the Bible is right. And never doubt that. Then you can look down upon all others that say "That is full of blatantly obvious contradictions, I cannot understand that". Not thinking as virtue. Einstein's imagination was to think outside of the normal paths, that also means you know the path and when you go beyond, That you take on other viewpoints, other angles. John has one path he goes with Bible goggles, and he does not even know that there is anything else than that path. He is a two-dimensional being living on the surface of his christian bubble - the surface is endless, but the area of the surface is tiny. But unless you go into the third dimension and look at the surface of the bubble you live on from the outside, you will never see the limitations - and that there is much more to be discovered. But as two-dimensional being he has no ability to grasp this idea of a third dimension. He is happy with the two he knows. Hmm - I like that description, I think I will use it more often.

[@edrick106]

Imagination requires thinking by yourself , which John is clearly not capable of doing

[@TheRaven_200]

This caller didn’t come to engage, he came to preach. He doesn’t care about facts or his poor logic, he only wanted to proselytize.

[@michaelburgess6004]

The issue with hell is that there is literally no possible way to deserve to go there forever. Some people may deserve punishment, but eternal torture is the ultimate unfairness no matter what you've done. Even people like Hitler and Genghis Kahn don't deserve *eternal suffering.* Imagine being tortured so long you could watch the entire life cycle of the universe birthing and being destroyed by the hands of time trillions of times and still not being any closer to salvation than when you started. Why not just obliterate the souls of the damned? That would be more reasonable than the concept of hell is.

[@michaelburgess6004]

@@ookeekthelibrarian What? I dont understand.

[@drsatan9617]

@@michaelburgess6004 its British slang and an insult

[@TBomb39]

There's a school of thought that after enough time had passed, the tortures of hell would become "meh" once the mind has snapped. A person could retreat into that mind, and live there, maybe playing back their past life, or imagining a new one. Someone in heaven wouldn't have this option, they'd spend every minute of every day and night, waiting on god, as prophesied in Rev. Of course, all of this is just a load of dingoes kidneys anyway.

[@michaelburgess6004]

@@TBomb39 "A load of dingo's kidneys." That's probably the most Australian thing I've ever heard lmao

[@TBomb39]

@@michaelburgess6004 I borrowed from Douglas Adams, who may have borrowed from Aussie slang. I'm a big fan of both 😀

[@Asilikoth1982]

Kenneth's discription of sin was one of the best I have ever heard. Very well put.

[@majuli8420]

John didn't suffer the ravages of intelligence.

[@bct8881]

Hell can't be any worse than the place John's mind is in. I'll risk it.

[@slstunes]

I love how they quote preachers and bible passages as proof because they assume everyone they talk to accepts it as absolute truth.

[@lorraineclark4413]

Three strikes and you're OUT! If somebody dodged my question more than twice, I'd kick their butt to the curb.

[@iAtheist4Life]

I like your attitude.

[@abc456f]

Happens all the time. They get cornered with logic and won't answer because they know how it makes their religion look. Is slavery moral usually does it.

[@flyguyry1]

Less entertainment

[@j3pelfrey]

John when you won't answer a direct question you appear dishonest and weak. If the almighty creator of this universe is backing you up, you would think you might be a little braver.

[@claudiasolomon1123]

John's brain has been thoroughly washed & conditioned.

[@denverarnold6210]

assuming it's still in his skull.

[@Ironraven001]

The smoothest and shiniest brain.

[@TBomb39]

Deep-fried, too.

[@rcblazer]

They used the extra strong bleach on John's brain.

[@stephensarkany3577]

Not only that, he rinsed and repeated.

[@karenbrown938]

Fun to hear John squirming on the horns of his ethical dilemma!

[@sigmaoctantis1892]

The Bible is like a car wreck. That's all I got out of John's babble.

[@LuminesBreezer--]

Lol 'dancin' with Jesus in Heaven.' classic one, Dave. 💙

[@richardreese2257]

THere's no point in even talking to people this deeply messed up

[@jszlauko]

Yes, it's what brainwashing creates!

[@iAtheist4Life]

So deeply messed up that it's up their a** and around the corner. 😆

[@2msystems740]

Agree. But it can be funny if you ignore the tragedy though.

[@robertschriek1353]

Yes or no = pure kryptonite.

[@Gwaithmir]

I love the way Christians evade and dance around a question when they're cornered.

[@rhzoom8749]

You gotta love how he laughs when you ask him how he knows that and he says the Bible like that’s not the funniest part of anything he said 😂 he also just can’t grasp that we don’t believe in sin or that Jesus was real. Like at all.

[@2jverses]

I really love this show ahahahaha.. just answer the question believer

[@Danny451]

The "Christians" have a difficult time answering a direct question.

[@rectorsquid]

I have no excuse why Bigfoot should not stab me with a unicorn in front of a stadium filled with fairies. I guess I'm doomed.

[@nephjd88]

So you have four different perspectives from four different writers, who weren't even there, writing about hearsay that definitely does contradict each other, which introduces so much confusion. How could an infallible, perfect god allow that to happen? If you wanted people to know you, wouldn't you want your message to be perfectly clear with no room for confusion? So why allow four different authors tell four different versions of the same story with contradictory things happening? Make it make sense!

[@I-AM-IS]

John is right, the bible is definitely smarter than him.

[@Spaceseeker]

Funny

[@kellydalstok8900]

A brick is smarten than John.

[@iAtheist4Life]

Tadpoles are smarter than John.

[@gainer83]

john, if you can read this. please do us and yourself a favor and dont breed.

[@waffles2waffles]

I love talking about the resurrection because it's not just that there are 4 contradictory stories, but the Greek Testament doesn't tell us anyone actually witnessed the rising. All they have is the claim that the tomb was empty, so they need to accept that he was risen on faith, not witnesses (even though Jesus said the "wicked and adulterous generation" would be given this sign).

[@eh9618]

15:53 aww, john couldn't explain the contradictions in the book he claims to be "smarter" than the hosts.. so is now trying to run away by changing the subject

[@ThelastDJ1976]

Ok Dave & Kenneth are my new favorite combo. This one won me over. Great job at letting the caller speak for a while and get all his thoughts out. I swear the longer the callers get to talk the easier your job becomes lol

[@gattaca5911]

Thanks for making him answer the YN question...it exposes his awareness that the "being saved" loophole is immoral. He knows it sounds like a terrible injustice.

[@crispymidget8531]

This guest just barrels thru with every talking point he can use.

[@AMGPilot]

Hopefully one day religion will be banished and humanity can learn to live in peace and harmony as one on this planet.

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

There are non-theist religions. Cricket has a phrase for bad behaviour. "It's not cricket". Religion is a word that people associate with being Good. I object to cluttering it up with belief in a God.

[@flyguyry1]

No. We dont ban things we simply dont like. Thats what theists do

[@stevey822]

The sad thing is, John will go home (if he isn't home already) and thank God for giving him the strength to battle these "heathens", confident and convinced that he was as accurate a promoter of The Word as he could be, while reminding himself to sprinkle in credit to God every now and then so as to not overinflate his ego. He might even say a half-hearted salvation prayer for the hosts, as the cherry on the top. I say these things because I was just as bad when I was a believer (Baptist specifically). This is how people think and argue when they begin the conversation already fully convinced of the truth of their claims, unwilling to bend or budge in any direction away from the one that's brought them comfort for so long.

[@yachishairclips2250]

Yes... I could totally picture that one out

[@MasamiPhoenix]

I always find it funny when they're asked a straight yes/no question and they refuse to answer it, because it makes them look bad.

[@turboguppy3748]

"The Bible is smarter than you!" Says a guy who can clearly be outfoxed by a fencepost.

[@thomasflanagan505]

If you have to bend over backwards so far that your spine snaps, to justify inconsistencies; then your book probably isn't inerrant

[@AussieNaturalist]

Seems to be another alumni from the university of Dunning-Kruger.

[@jquest99]

It's a good thing they stopped him from going on with his "science". Now THAT would be Dunning-Kruger at its finest!🤣

[@GabeCoolwater]

So, according to John, I can commit the most terrifying crimes imaginable in this life... and as long as I believe in jesus, I won't be punished and I'll go to heaven to party. Well, that's screwed up as f*ck. That's a sick deity right there.

[@ajclements4627]

Yep, be Jeffrey Dahmer, say you’re really really sorry and get “saved”, BAM, instant Willy Willy Wonka Golden ticket to heaven!

[@wyldink1]

These are the same Christians that say atheists just don't want to have any personal accountability.

[@MrCanis4]

In his world, it is possible that Hitler is in heaven, and because I do not believe I go to hell.

[@GabeCoolwater]

@@MrCanis4 Oh, man... You know what, no wonder there's so many sx crimes committed by priests (catholic church) being uncovered in many contries (like mine). In their minds, they can do whatever they want to anyone: just believe in jesus and you're safe.

[@Refertech101]

@@MrCanis4 Well according to christianity hitler is indeed in haven, he was a creationist after all

[@sinefromabove2709]

I absolutely love Dave. He's such a cool person.

[@pollypockets508]

Finally, people are doing the Dahmer hammer. I've been posing the question for years.

[@laurajarrell6187]

John should ask himself a lot of questions. First I wonder if John ever read the bible. He's just listened to others. Like many, he hasn't a clue how the thing even came together! 🌊💙💙💙🌊🥰✌

[@deanmoncaster]

"here's some conjecture based on a random human written book, you need to protect yourself from it!"

[@RAD-ju1ru]

This is awesome. The hosts remain calm as the caller (realizing he isn't blowing their minds) begins to talk faster and faster. THAT'S how you know when you've beaten these people. 😄

[@ingoatwetrust8086]

John can't answer a question. Also John - Ask if he is being heard and keeps talking without pausing to get an answer. 😂😂

[@tonydarcy1606]

John starts with the threat of hell, and finishes with the threat of hell, having been shown to be wrong on all issues he raised. The tap dance didn't work John. No wonder Christianity is losing adherents !

[@triton007a]

"what could you have done?" You were born. Because Adam sinned, anyone born deserves to be punished unless they say a few magic words. And if you are a complete sadist and say the magic words you are in too.

[@kellydalstok8900]

Lets do a deep dive into John’s family tree, and if any of his ancestors committed a crime John needs to be arrested immediately.

[@scottfulton267]

It amazes me to think that Christians believe that a baby, straight out of the womb, covered in blood and slime, knows nothing, doesn't know right from left, doesn't know right from wrong, and is basically a blank slate, is doomed to hell right from the beginning unless someone intervenes to indoctrinate him and gets him to achieve salvation.

[@Blue_3rd]

Watching from over the pond, this is comedy gold.

[@TrumanSparx]

I don't think John knows the definition of contradict.

[@MODea-pq7ei]

This guy and all of the other christians lack of knowledge about their own religion and their holy book made me an Atheist when I was very young

[@asagoldsmith3328]

Why should I fear a fictional dictator

[@Angelum_Band]

The christian conquerors during the crusades and the conquest of Indigenous America murdered millions of people. The god in the name of which they kill was and is fake but the murders were real. Not saying to have fear but to keep a good eye on the fictional god followers.

[@dlbsyst]

atheism is the next stage of human evolution.

[@alangriffiths2100]

Where did the sinners go before the church invented hell?

[@boarder6246]

If I’m not wrong, we all went to candyland, and that is where the holy boardgame came from.

[@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9]

Sheol

[@ministryofarguments3525]

Before Christianity or the Hebrew religion Hell was the place that everyone went to after dying, heaven was reserved exclusively for the gods alone. It wasn't until Zoroastrianism came on the scene that ordinary people were then allowed to go to heaven and Hell was reserved for the evil people. So Judaism, Christianity and Islam have all been influenced by the earlier monotheistic religion of Zoroastrianism whether they like it or not.

[@petebetz5358]

When it comes to the viewpoint argument, I say the gospels have four exclusive stories of the Resurrection. And they are indeed exclusive.

[@warren52nz]

*_You've got to hand it to God... he's the world champion of playing HIDE AND SEEK!!!_*

[@canbest7668]

John-CA - Poster boy for atheism

[@kellydalstok8900]

Or abortion.

[@XEndlessSteelX]

It's so incredibly hard for theists to answer straight forward questions, there are like 1-2 of those in every live show. This is seriously sad.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

@@youhaveaGodregardlesscreature you have non-magical chemicals, regardless.

[@XEndlessSteelX]

@@youhaveaGodregardlesscreature "creature" lmao

[@XEndlessSteelX]

@@youhaveaGodregardlesscreature Which one?

[@asagoldsmith3328]

@@XEndlessSteelX "creature" is a stupid dog whistle that Darth Dawkins sycophants use. This guy keeps changing accounts and spamming because he's too afraid to go crying back to Daddy and say that he failed.

[@XEndlessSteelX]

@@asagoldsmith3328 Ah I see now. That explains a lot.

[@andersandersen6295]

People who are praying will also claim that god has a plan and are allknowing, so praying is disrespecting their gods plan and ignoring that he already knows the thing they are praying for. And even when they claim that god has a plan they will still say that they have free will.

[@john-nx4xn]

Commonality with all atheist vs religious debates is the former tries to stay on point and the latter rarely answers a simple direct question.

[@thisislaflaretv5250]

This man said " out psychologize"

[@Lupinemancer87]

John is what we of normal brain activity calls a lost cause. There is no helping him, he's too far gone.

[@FatLittleButterfly]

He can't answer the question because the answer conflicts with his personal morals and if he sticks with it, he is afraid he will be damned for eternity in the after-life, if there is even one.

[@arthurunknown8972]

99% of people who ever existed fail to meet the biblical standard to avoid hell, including this caller but they are deluding themselves out of fear AND never even consider whether the entire concept is rational or supported by sufficient evidence to warrant belief.

[@tshepokgwele1789]

Lol, wow, when you trapped them with a yes or no they squirm like snails on a hot stone covered in salt.

[@terrywright9765]

If I am not as smart as a book that says the Earth is flat and unmoving, the Sun goes around the Earth, the Sun and stars are not similar and the stars will fall to the earth someday, then I should burn forever.