John Carpenter's The Thing, Lost in Adaptation ~ Dominic Noble &

[@Dominic-Noble]

But seriously, go check out my co host channel: kzbin.info/door/m3EY6Fmp-wlcLB6Q6X0PLg

[@hockeysong]

I would suggest watching the prequel the thing that came out in 2011, although the CGI is and terrible behind the scenes decisions by the exes it has a story that shows us what happened to the Danish team

[@Cassius-Casim]

I wonder if you can do a episode of lost of adaptation on Lord of the Flies book and both 2 films.

[@imreplyingtothiscomment2378]

Try the edge of tomorrow

[@alexbotea5626]

Ok, this is bugging me already, Dominic. In my country the first thing we all learn in literature class is that we should never judge a literary work by its author, but by its own merit as a story. That being said it never bothers me (or anyone for that matter) who and what the author was. When you say if you'd recommend reading something and you decline it as not worth it because the author had this and that view, I view it as detrimental to the audience who should be left up to make their own opinion. Yes, point out to the audience facts about the writers, but also remind them that they were products of their time and our contemporary sensibilities do not match the worldview from back then. It just seems the best way to do it, so that the reader knows a few things about the creator but also understands that they should judge the literature by it's own standing.

[@lalametupsi8618]

@@alexbotea5626 good for you. What I learnt went a bit further. Any interpretation of a work can include the author' life, view, relationships, anything. You can separate the art from the artist but if you want to try to understand it, research the artist.

[@johnmorey720]

John Carpenter intentionally swapped around the names of many of the people who were infected or human, so that if you read the book it would catch you off-guard.

[@josesosa3337]

Good move.

[@wickeddeadchick]

That's pretty cool

[@SirDankleberry]

That’s what I’d do if I wanted to surprise people.

[@Olliebear38]

Ahh J C, always ahead of the curve.

[@jojotheswede8444]

cool, i didn't know that

[@vampirefrompluto9788]

I find it funny/ironic that you watched a horror movie about a shape shifting alien while clutching Ditto the shape shifting Pokémon.

[@PKMNResearcherSkyler]

I also found it funny

[@kittysakuraba1656]

ULGROTHA Wait, what?

[@kittysakuraba1656]

ULGROTHA Thank you for explaining it. Obviously it’s clear it’s been a little bit since I last watched Pokémon so I greatly a appreciate it.

[@dustrose8101]

There's a Smosh parody trailer of The Thing which has Ditto as the monster...

[@BYERE]

@ULGROTHA It's not that funny... but then, it's by Smosh, so that's not really a surprise.

[@thrillergirl021]

How can you clam not being able to watch horror movies? You survived the 50 shades trilogy, you are way braver than I will ever be!

[@PrincessGrouchy]

It's just as horrific lol

[@jonsnor4313]

Fromwhat i heard earl james captured the worst horror in a terrifying relationship perfectly. Its not horror?

[@JosephWiess]

And 50 shades was a horror movie all its own.

[@collinmurr3207]

I'm so glad you're doing things exactly as you want: not straining your voice, going with a name you prefer, etc.

[@tuschman168]

I love his softer voice. Listening to these videos before sleeping has now become an option. Not that I do only that. I give every Lost in Adaptation a proper viewing as well.

[@katherinemorelle7115]

tuschman168 yeah, Som with a softer voice is a bit like Shaun, who I use to also go to sleep sometimes. Only problem is, sometimes the content Shaun talks about is a bit depressing, so Dom is a good alternative if I’m just not up for that. It’s a thing about soft spoken Brits. I just need one to lull me to sleep, I guess.

[@merlinmeurer5339]

He will always stay the dom for me.

[@Amsayy]

I love listening to Dominic speak before bed. He’s got such a nice soothing voice to fall asleep too.

[@joninaninuninus]

@@katherinemorelle7115 highly reccomend Lonerbox for a Scottish version, very very nice voice

[@LandonMcAfee]

Am I the only one that finds it absolutely hilarious that Dominic is holding a Ditto plush, considering the subject matter of the work featured?

[@VerdantRange]

I'm glad the film cut the "ship is made of magnesium" bit since, as Linkara pointed out in his review of one of the comics, a ship made of that stuff would have melted during reentry.

[@Stormkrow280]

He actually corrected himself stating that some types of magnesium have a higher melting temperature than that of planetary re-entry meaning the ship could have survived

[@sarafontanini7051]

@@Stormkrow280 its still a pretty superfluous detail that exists inly to make the alien more...alien

[@pushinguproses]

You and Kate did a fantastic job with this collaboration. It felt like a very equal presentation where you both shined, and I was amused by the weird gore fest of The Thing. Don't mind looking at Kurt Russell, either. ;) I vote for Kate being in more LiAs.

[@georgeoldsterd8994]

Oh! PushingUpRoses! It's so nice to see my favourite KZbinrs are watching each other's channels 🙂

[@DrDolan2000]

Kurt Russell is the man

[@sebastianevangelista4921]

I haven't seen Kate upload anything for a while now. How's she been lately? Hope she's doing well!

[@brettjohnson536]

What happened with "that movie chick"? It says channel does not exist and I haven't been able to find anything about that on the internet?

[@Greycatuk]

‘Nope nope nope nope...’ ADORABLE!!! It’s ok, Dom, your kitties will protect you. Also your fearsome Lady 😊❤️

[@VampireNewl]

One theory I heard for why the thing decided to go stealth is that it tried to do the slasher thing for the Norwegians but the Norwegians managed to fight it off so it changed tactics

[@Grayvorn]

I love that theory.

[@otaking3582]

@@Grayvorn Sounds better than the actual prequel involving the Norwegians

[@georgeoldsterd8994]

This theory actually makes a lot of sense after watching the prequel and the original back-to-back. 🤔

[@coolgreenbug7551]

@@georgeoldsterd8994 One thing I find funny is that the awfulness of the prequel elevates the original rather than ruin it like you would expect

[@RyanDB]

I love the touch of you holding a ditto for protection against the shape-shifting monster 😂

[@bannerturtoise1219]

Takes me back to old smosh

[@magitek09]

I was not expecting an episode of John Carpenter's The Thing to be this adorable XD

[@taylorwiseman8078]

"You tried to watch a scary movie again, didn't you?" Dom makes an I-just-peed-myself noise. "You want to come over and watch it with you?" Dom makes a happier I-just-peed-myself noise. Dom, you are hilarious.

[@AlyRoad]

this was lol, i give him credit though, this film isn't one id recommend to those just getting into horror films or those who don't like a lot of blood.

[@Dominic-Noble]

A prize for guessing in advance how many different ways I pronounce MacReady in this 😅

[@lVlith]

Wasn't keeping track but I bet it's equal to the amount of times you try!

[@simonesalvatore9345]

I'm gonna guess 6.

[@person14876]

5

[@TheShadowofDragons]

Not watched yet. I'll guess higher at 8

[@misfitrogue989]

8

[@Shinigami41395]

In my opinion, Who Goes There is pretty good and worth a read. Personally I think one should separate the art from the artist. John Campbell's personal views don't change the quality of the story. Plus he's dead, so you don't have to worry about financially supporting him by buying his books.

[@azamonra]

I agree. I've never understood the idea of judging a work by its creators personal flaws.

[@cyphermasq7870]

ULGROTHA what is that in reference to?

[@azamonra]

@ULGROTHA The video is blocked in my region, what was it about?

[@azamonra]

@ULGROTHA ah I see. Thanks.

[@cthulhupthagn5771]

Agreed. Time Marches On, and in doing so opinions and beliefs change. It's almost impossible to enjoy an author's work once you get far enough from the time. Where they wrote it. Lovecraft still stands as the gold standard for Eldritch Horror, and it should be noted in his personal life he realized his failings and tried to improve. His wife, who was Jewish, would often help him along. He also had potential mental problems such as depression and anxiety which may have also influenced. Edgar Allan Poe also wrote beautiful fiction, even though he was in love with marginal child and among other things had an unfortunate name for his pet cat. Which also indicates that certain words change in meaning and context over a years. Retarded means a regression of sorts, then was a medical term, then once it was used as an insult was discontinued as a medical term. So if you read a book that took place in say the sixties you might see that term. I would also draw a distinction between Campbell and perhaps someone like the guy who wrote the Turner Diaries. It sounds as though Campbell was a competent author who was able to build atmosphere and tell a narrative more than adequately. The Diaries on another hand we're basically a strung together list of racist beliefs and is more propaganda. Something like the former deserves to be read on its own merits divorced from the Creator, whereas the latter has no merit. Lastly I'll just mention that this idea of canceling people for any measure of slides since a president that I'm not fond of. We're all flawed human beings, and most of us change over time. Picking isolated incidents out of someone's entire life span and using that as justification to invalidate all of their existence seems inappropriate

[@ryans6442]

You should do a lost in adaptation on Jaws. Those two are completely different stories

[@kamikazelemming1552]

Wait. Jaws was based on a book?

[@icemanlj2k7]

I believe that Jaws is on his list of future episodes

[@chicostephenson]

OMG I can't believe I forgot about Jaws! There was a whole thing they cut from the movie when Dreyfuss was having an affair with Scheider's wife.

[@ryans6442]

TheIcemanLJ didn’t realize that, but I’ll definitely look forward to it

[@ryans6442]

Kamikaze Lemming We actually read the book in English class then watched the movie. Honestly if you’ve never read the book and only seen the movie there is a lot that will surprise you still. Like chicostephenson said there’s the affair and many of the characters are very different

[@rhymebeat1142]

"I have a friend who has a spaceship". Amusingly one of the best explained plot point in the Reviewniverse.

[@flynn659]

What is that referencing?

[@alitaniak7404]

@@flynn659 he's referring to Linkara's spaceship on his show Atop The Fourth Wall (they used to be on the same site together)

[@Mobysimo]

@@flynn659 Who's also made quite a few reviews of Thing comics. I recommend checking him out

[@alyssaagnew4147]

As someone who avoids horror stuff like the plague, I completely understand your feelings Dominic. Good on you for doing the review anyway.

[@caspianhorlick4529]

I normally do as well because I hate cheap jumpscares, but I watched The Thing about a year ago.... my god it's a fucking great horror movie. From the tension filled soundtrack to the isolated setting, to the paranoid tone, to the cinematography, to the horrifying Lovecraftian shapeshifting monster, just perfect in my opinion.

[@Powered1Buttercup]

@@caspianhorlick4529 I would love to watch it, but unfortunately I personally cannot handle a lot of the stuff in the movie and others like it, I mostly can handle it in video games or written :’))) And there are other ppl that are like this :’)

[@michaeliv284]

I'm actually the only member of my family that actively likes horror

[@simonesalvatore9345]

You should do more crossovers! You have infectious chemistry with practically anyone you share the screen with!

[@nextgenwarrior]

Not to defend racism or any such thing, but I do believe in separating the artist from their art and (especially as we are well passed the point that you would be supporting him for doing so) feel that one should be able to read Who Goes There? without worry of supporting or enjoying the work of a racist. Lovecraft is my favorite author of all time, been reading him since I was a kid just getting into horror, I may strongly disagree with his views, but I very much enjoy his work. Anyways, was really happy to see this pop up into my feed, this is literally my favorite movie of all time. Watch it every single year in October and usually at least a couple times outside of then.

[@kurtjk01]

Furthermore, Lovecraft eventually changed his racist views. If we're going to judge a man, judge him at the end of his life, says I.

[@Edgeworth99]

@@kurtjk01 Lovecraft may have (slightly) softened how he felt about certain races, he never recanted his racism and still held onto a lot of his shittier beliefs to the end of his life. Even then, the only softening was mostly pedantic distinction made to differentiate himself from the nazis that were growing in power at time. He still absolutely believed in the "master race" and the inferiority of almost everyone else. Don't make apologies for a terrible person.

[@RabblesTheBinx]

I think his point was that it's just not well enough written to easily look past that

[@zamnster9158]

@@Edgeworth99 Zamn. Didn't know that Lovecraft was this based.

[@sophiav4962]

I think that the hard thing about authors who suck is that their views are often very prevalent in their writing so while you can technically seperate them you often really can’t

[@ritchier3346]

John Carpenter’s The Thing is easily one of my favorite movies of all time. It’s written so well and acted perfectly

[@hunterschoumacher9560]

A great score!!! And beautifully filmed.

[@shenysys]

The picture of John Campbell holding the science fiction magazine Analog. John Campbell was an editor of it.

[@shmee123ful]

The dom "nope, nope ,nope , nope" I wonder if it was the head spider or mouth chest that broke the dom?

[@ebuzzmiller34]

When I watched it with a friend who was a dog lover there was a moment where they just begged me to hit the skip button on the DVD.

[@osmanyousif7849]

For me, I would go with the Norris Chest-Mouth. Seriously, it's hard to get an image of that out of your head.....

[@WhiteJarrah]

The Fly would probably be an interesting one to cover, given that the original 50s version was more closer to the short story while the 80s remake changed quite a lot.

[@BinturongGirl]

I first watched The Thing when I was about 12 or 13, and it seriously messed me up for weeks afterwards. For months I literally didn't trust anyone. Even family members could be shape-shifting monsters that wanted to kill me. Love it now, though. Masterpiece of the genre.

[@StealthMarmot_]

Dom's "Mmhm" whine is perfect. I can watch it over and over again for hours. I too, am also a fraidy cat when it comes to horror. Always have been.

[@MaiNerys426]

Good to see you the Dom. Your chemistry with That Movie Chick is great. You two should do horror movies adaptations more often. Wait...the Fly was written by a Nazi hunter?! Awesome.

[@georgeoldsterd8994]

Someone needs to make a crossover between Inglorious Basterds and The Fly's author, or at least a full-length movie where DeCaprio's character from Once upon a time in Hollywood goes full Wolfenstein 3D on the Nazis.

[@KaelWrit]

I like that a super racist segregationist's book was adapted into a film that featured Black crew members who were treated as equals and had some really good characterization.

[@truec]

"I have a friend who has his own spaceship." I know you're talking about Linkara, but my first thought was Zaphod Beeblebrox.

[@brennabrodbeck5183]

I thought of Angry Joe to be honest

[@Ramsey276one]

ZaWHO???

[@haggisa]

Luis-Raul Diaz-Rios He’s a guy with a heart of gold.

[@rpgaholic8202]

@@brennabrodbeck5183 Angry Joe has a space station, not a ship.

[@Topdoggie7]

​@@Ramsey276one Hitchhikers Guide.

[@BottomBunkArt]

It's subtly hinted at the end of The Thing that Keith David's character was actually a thing because Kurt Russel offered him a drink like he did with the computer that beat him at chess. And the fact he accepted the drink without concern that he might get infected.

[@Macapta]

It’s worth the watch for the practical effects alone That spider head is AWESOME!!

[@Zanbutt]

Seriously. The creature works in this movie were amazing!

[@davidjones272]

There's a direct homage in the 2nd it film

[@divineknight9261]

This film is not only my favorite John Carpenter film, its my favorite horror film, period. A great cast, excellent cinematography, the tense, subtle score (I LOVE the heartbeat motif), fantastic practical effects, and an unrelenting layer of tension and paranoia capped of with a brilliant bittersweet ending. If Im not mistaken, Carpenter himself considers this film his finest work, and one of his biggest regrets is that it took so long to get popular. At least he lived long enough to see this master class of horror film making get the recognition it deserves.

[@ShanaReviews]

Fun Fact: The film Horror Express, starring Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing is an adaptation of the same short story that spawned The Thing. An alien entity that took possession of a prehistoric caveman was found on an icy expedition where its frozen body was being transported to be studied further, the lead scientist (Christopher lee) teams up with another passenger on the train (Peter Cushing) as the creature comes to life after thawing out and begins body hoping, not helped that there is a religious fanatic on the train as well as the Russian military boarding and making things more difficult as Lee and Cushing try to find the one who is possessed and stop the entity from leaving and finding a way to escape off world. It's actually a very interesting adaption of the story and Lee and Cushing's performances are wonderful, one of the very few times the actors worked together and were allies rather than playing opposite of each other like in some of their other collabs. It does sadly lack the atmosphere that the Thing from Carpenter's movie as well as the original short story had as the audience knows is shown who the creature is possessing, yet even with these differences, it's still a fun watch

[@Jean_grey159]

Hello, Dominic! I just wanted to say that I hope you're doing well, and I wanted to thank you for your lovely videos. I always enjoy them, and I love how you perfectly balance additude, sarcasm, and class. Edit: Thanks a bunch for the heart. Keep up the amazing work.

[@Chaoitcme]

The thing was filmed in Alaska and British Columbia. I knew someone that worked on it back in the day. Due to it being so cold when they were filming many of the crew drank liquor heavily. The exterior explosion scenes were larger than planned due to the special effects crew drinking while working.

[@michaelbiscay9836]

Damn, you were right about offensive images. That ET clip had shotguns instead of flashlights. 🤤

[@douglasphillips5870]

When the cast turns around to see a head crawling across the floor may be John Carpenter's finest moment as a director.

[@Batchall_Accepted]

"You've gotta be fucking kidding" almost felt like a 4th wall break 😂😅

[@Blitzo8390]

Hey Dom, will you consider doing the Hannibal Lecter books?

[@voidbreather7405]

And the TV show and films! ✨

[@Blitzo8390]

Void Breather Yes and those

[@hellogoditsmesara3569]

@@voidbreather7405 HANNIBAL YES

[@katherinemorelle7115]

He should be able to deal with those, I think. I can, and like Dom I HATE horror movies- the closest I get to horror is The Sixth Sense. (It has a jump scare, it counts). But the Hannibal Lecter movies are more thriller than horror, and I know I personally do just fine with thrillers.

[@hellogoditsmesara3569]

@@katherinemorelle7115 They're suspense, it's less jump scare and gore and more psychological

[@sinkingswamp]

This movie will always have a bittersweet place in my heart. My friends dad was in a hospital type bed in her living room (basically hospice care) he had stopped being coherent or communicating for weeks. We were watching this film with him in the bg and every now and then he would quip something, proving he was still in there. I still remember him saying “Kurt Russell should have gotten rid of those shredded pjs. He’s in trouble now” probably among his last cogent utterances.

[@WiseSageBum]

That's both sweet and incredibly sad Thanks for sharing his memory

[@JOSH-lw2jv]

Fun Fact: John Carpenter was a big fan of the famous kaiju star "Godzilla" and wanted to do a Godzilla film, but that sadly never came to be. Although he did appear in the episode of Animal Planet's "Animal Icons": "It Came from Japan".

[@joeevans5770]

A dom crossover, just as rare as an episode of a Dom of ice and fire

[@PatheticApathetic]

Joe Evans well, considering he basically cancelled that series, and he’s only going to do character overviews... it makes sense

[@ciara947]

I've never seen That Movie Chick's work before but this was a fantastic crossover

[@PFiction24]

The guy MacReady shot was coming at him with a knife. How was it not self defense?

[@viralknight4602]

It WAS self defense

[@regiman222]

It was, it' just he killed a human while the other guy killed an alien duplicate so they didn't even care if it looked justified because it automatically was.

[@2wingo]

Dom is a Brit; to them, doing anything more than curling into a ball and hoping your attacker goes away is excessive force.

[@PFiction24]

2wingo I thought that was the French lol.

[@GriffinPilgrim]

@@2wingo Hardly. We're just not so obsessed with guns we need deadly weapons to feel safe popping down to the corner shop.

[@enigmachine4961]

This movie is a master-class in tension, practical effects and cosmic horror. John Carpenter was way ahead of his time. Great vid guys!

[@spiderlime]

if only this channel had a host who isn't afraid of confronting ideas even when he dosn't agree with them, or doesn't think that using bad language makes him look cool, and that basically understands that literature can't exist without intellectual freedom. like this young lady does.

[@mark1A100]

what idea didnt he confront?

[@zhamac1]

4:23 Dominic clutching a ditto plushie while watching The Thing. How appropriate 🤣

[@Troselingasher]

I personally don't care that the author had unsavory views, I care that I have now learned that one of my favorite horror movies was based on a book and now I must read it, the thing was something that, despite being something I probably shouldn't have seen at the young age I saw it, I absolutely was captivated by its take on an alien invasion and horror that I hadn't yet encountered

[@leilasalera603]

I don't blame Dom for not wanting to watch this, As much as I am a fan of great horror films, this is one of those that gave me nightmares when I was younger. You and Kate did such a great job working together for this one :)

[@SpedeVesku]

I have been waiting for this. John Carpenter is my personal favorite director and The Thing is not only, in my opinion, his Magnum Opus, but also my all-time favorite horror movie and one of my favorite movies period. Haven't read the original novella, but I do want to someday.

[@Shinigami41395]

I wholeheartedly agree. I absolutely adore The Thing. I watch it every Halloween. I still can't believe that it was so hated back when it was first released. Just goes to show that critics can't be trusted lol.

[@saschamayer4050]

@@Shinigami41395 and @TheWolverine1987 I agree with everything you both wrote. Kudos to John Carpenter!

[@osmanyousif7849]

No, the Magnum Opus would be either Starman or They Live.

[@freman007]

Many historical writers held views which would be disapproved of today. What matters is not the beliefs of the writer, but whether their writing is good.

[@RabblesTheBinx]

that depends a lot on which views they had and how heavily their views influence their writing. Like, it's hard to treat the Baron Harkonnen as a bad guy who just happens to be gay when you know about Frank Herbert's strongly-held hatred for gay people, even including his own son.

[@justaddwater363]

This is probably my 3rd or 4th comment on here in the history of KZbin... And I've probably watched this commentary about the same amount of times since the creator released it (love your work and try to keep up to date on videos) ... The "nope" moment just killed me this time. Reminded me of the first time my brothers made me watch this film (now one of my favorites). You are gold Sir. A proper treasure. Keep up the fantastic work.

[@SHcMOOK]

I love that you include a reference to Linkara (I have a friend who has his own spaceship), who has extensively reviewed all the spinoff comics that The Thing inspired, and is the reason I know about the property. ...the rest of the video is great too.

[@JazzyBlade-pp4hv]

11:51-11:59 Well if you were to take the 2011 prequel film into consideration, the Thing originally did try an all out ambush while in the Norwegian camp, but after realizing how many times it got torched to death, it’s behavior in the 1982 film is essentially it learning it from its mistakes and trying to be more subtle and stealthy until it was forced by an instinctual reaction.

[@mrwheatthins2413]

Actually, at the end of "The Thing" one of the surviving crew members was a "thing". John Carpenter confirmed this years later, and there is significant evidence that one of them is a "thing", so really the entire world is fucked

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

You missed the greatness of the ending: Childs may be a Thing. The ending is totally open, which is also provided by the sinister opening theme playing as the scene fades into credits.

[@karenwapinski4822]

Dominic's reaction is exactly how I feel about watching most horror movies. When I watched this one for the first time a few months ago I found it pretty cool but the scene with the dogs nearly made me turn it off. Did it's job though, I was scared nearly the entire movie. So...go Carpenter. Nice work.

[@justalonelystrider5522]

YES YES YES!!!!! FINALLY. I’VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS ONE!!!

[@chaos_ae]

Maybe it's just me, but the character of an author has never really influenced my ability to enjoy a story. I care if the flaws such as racism are shown in the style of the writing, such as intentionally killing off specific characters without any narrative purpose to it, but even with that its a problem with the book rather than the author I take issue with.

[@stormcloudsabound]

Mhm. Easy to do that when your society-prescribed race hasn't been the subject of literal lynchings in the past. The racism of H.P. Lovecraft and his ilk are sort of like...well, let's think of society like a burning house. You may look at the burning curtains and say, "Well, I don't mind the curtains burning, they were weird looking anyway," but your house is still very much on fire.

[@kasairan8492]

It depends on the person. I can enjoy art made by racists/sexists/homophobes/pedophiles, but i’ll still acknowledge that those problematic elements are indubitably integrated in the text. HP Lovecraft makes great horror but the racism is very obvious in the text; Luc Besson makes neat movies but his...fondness...for little girls is kinda glaring in Leon The Professional. But just because I can enjoy those stories doesn’t mean other people have to. I’m never gonna call other people of my race unreasonable because racism in a story is too much for them.

[@BlackVulcan22]

@@stormcloudsabound And, we have a winner. Thank you for saying this. I dont begrudge anyone who can 'separate' the art from he artist; good on you. But my not doing so isnt a flaw, nor does you being able to make you more virtuous, enlightened or better. I also find it funny that more often then not, whenever I hear this, its always from someone with a drastically different perspective on history/culture then I. From classroom discussions, to message boards with profile pictures, its always white dudes, leading the charge, broadcasting how much more intellectually honest we all should be, when they havent received anywhere near the same kind of treadment historically. And Im not even one of those people who bemoans everything as racist; far from it. Im also not a lightning rod for everything 'pro black' Black Panther was a 5/10 at best, haha. But if you are confirmed to proudly believe I am less than because of the color of my skin, and I need to be segregated/ostracized, then I have two balls for your chin.

[@alejandroalonso8642]

This is such a SJW fuckfest. Omg.

[@tyf.5111]

@@alejandroalonso8642 Go cry about it.

[@e.kauffm2972]

My goodness, The Dom, I can’t do that! My best friend’s dragon is pregnant and requires a rather large mountain of gold for nesting purposes! I’m afraid my money is quite tied up right now. (But great review, and warning at the start appreciated.)

[@fleacythesheepgirl]

I hear people talk the gore in this film all the time, but I hardly even noticed it my first watch. For me the strategy (I guess that's the right word for it) used by The Thing and the humans in this back and forth war really stood out. I really love the mystery of not only who's The Thing but when they were infected.

[@BinturongGirl]

4:12 - 4:20 And this is the moment I fell in love with this channel.

[@GeekZone210]

The times when Dom is preachy sour his videos. I get why he does it, and I'm glad people find comfort in that, but maybe don't view any content that is of what you don't like. If you don't like stories made by problematic people, don't read about them. Don't like movies of specific genres, don't watch them. Don't like certain channels because they have content or personalities that you don't vibe with, don't check them out.

[@dubuyajay9964]

18:45. No mention that MacCready was based on pulp hero Doc Savage, technically making it a fanfic?

[@soljwf5664]

First: The book was okay, the movie was awesome being gory was the 80's credo Second: You forgot the ending of the movie was ambiguous as hell. That Childs is possibly infected by the thing

[@kba702]

It's entirely possible that both of them are at that point.

[@ThieflyChap]

As far as me & my brother are concerned, Childs is DEFINITELY the Thing. Mac is probably still human.

[@dragonheart1236]

@@ThieflyChap between the lack of visible breath, and the drinking of what might be a molotov, it seems pretty clear that Childs is no longer Childs

@@dragonheart1236 No, the breath thing is has been debunked

[@mathieuleader8601]

Murder on the Planet Express the Futurama episode is my favourite adaptation of this story

[@azuregriffin1116]

This ^ I love it, too.

[@azureascendant994]

I watched The Thing before I was the age of ten. When the dude's head broke off, grew legs and became the thing... Or something ... This scene scared the shit out of child me to the point I forgot I even watched it... The second time as a less effected by horror teenager. Years later this film still scares me but I do love the lore behind the thing.

[@CaminoAir]

I thought Campbell's novella was 'over-written' and over-packed when I read it about 5 years ago. The fact that it was condensed from a novel makes sense to me.

[@Mauricekaip]

The fact you are holding a ditto makes me happy

[@Mad_Oph]

I always figured the sizable armory in the 1982 film was due to Cold War paranoia being depicted at the American station, since it was still a part of life when the movie came out.

[@kba702]

Campbell's racism was part of him being an enlightened Progressive is an era when the science of eugenics was settled for all properly thinking intellectuals. One wonders what beliefs considered enlightened today will be condemned by future generations.

[@Mythos_Musik]

One of my favorite movies with two of my favorite people. An excellent collaboration.

[@adrikrotten880]

I've both read the book and watched the movie and thought I'd add a bit more food for thought from my analysis. The movie is famous for portraying the sociology of a group in distress. It shows how coherence and teamwork can be pushed aside given panic, risk, and isolation. The book sort of portays this too, but I feel it was emphasizing a different theme. The contrast between our terrestrial reasoning and an extraterrestrial reality. The review mentioned Campbell's boring rant about the space ship and how everyone's talks weird. Although true, I think this was entirely on purpose to propose a certain idea. The characters are always using reason. Reason is one of the most human traits there is. It is how we learn and make decisions. The character's in the book took time to use reasoning to figure out the age of alien and how it got to where it was. But more importantly, it was reason that led to the alien's escape. They determined that it was impossible for any advanced creature to survive being frozen. That is just a universal law that we have deducted. There was also discussion of alien diseases, but they again reasoned that such diseases couldn't infect a human. Many organic diseases can't infect a human, how could an alien disease. However, both of these attempts at reason are what led to the team underestimating the thing. It thus came alive and the events of the book play out. There is a part of the story where the characters mention how a man looked at a bird, but could not fly without learning and designing their own way. Our advances as a society are only possible because we use reasoning to make them possible. The monster does not do this. It just imitates the bird. This is all to say that the thing does not reason like we do. It's smart, sure, but it does not "reason." And that's what makes Campbell's version of the monster seem different to me. It isn't just scary because it can hide in plain sight, like in the movie. It's also scary because it lacks reason. It defies reason. And if it defies reason, it defies man itself. The Thing acts as an antithesis to humanity. Sure, the monster in the movie is essentially the same, but the book laid groundwork for the monster to be more. Although, man's ability to reason led them to trust too strongly in earthly laws, it was still reason that stopped the monster. No matter how otherworldly, rules still apply and man can learn them. They learned the new rules and used them to find a test. Reason was applied to the extraterrestrial. And like how we learned to fly, we learned to fight back the monster and win. Am I overanalyzing? Near undoubtedly. But is it still an interesting interpretation? I think so.

[@Iliya117]

There is a nice short story called Things by Peter Watts that somewhat expands the movie.

[@TheTrekkie42]

Oh my god I just now noticed the Ditto. Bless you for that joke.

[@npc2619]

John carpenter The Thing is one of my all time favourite movies

[@thevoid3010]

If anything it sounds like the beginning and ending we’re swapped in the books, making them the second team to find the alien while also giving it a sense of finality

[@TsunogaiDanshaku]

When it comes to 'John Carpenter's: The Thing', I have to recommend a short story that was in turn recommended to me: 'The Things' by Peter Watts. It's a harrowing bit of existential horror that completely re-contextualizes the entire movie, making it terrifying in a whole new way.

[@TsunogaiDanshaku]

As a side note, I'd also like to point out that 'The Thing' was pretty popular in Japan, to the point that a character heavily inspired by it appears in Yoshitoh Asari's delightful slice-of-life sci fi manga 'Space Family Carlvinson' - A friendly alien in the shape of a dog who can transform into all manner of horrifying monstrosities, and who just loves making movies filled to the brim with body horror. What's this alien's name, you ask? "John Carpenter"

[@Mrtorquebowguy]

collabs are tight, loved it

[@jimstoesz3878]

In defense of the "optimistic" movie ending, Childs is almost certainly a duplicate at the end since he *DOWNS A MOLOTOV COCKTAIL LIKE IT'S WATER,* meaning that MacReady is super dead either way.

[@pyromasteralex]

i must ask, why did you use "molotov cocktail" instead of "bottle of booze"? molotov cocktail is any bottle based incendiary weapon, bottle of booze is just bottle of spirits.

[@claudiawright2382]

Another theory is that MacReady is the thing and through sharing his bottle with Childs, infects him through saliva.

[@otilialampman7850]

I like the way you invited your guest.

[@alyhoffman2643]

I love this film. As for the "excessive" guns given to our characters, remember- it was set and filmed during the latter half of the Cold War.

[@2wingo]

Even back then, there were international laws severely restricting the possession of firearms in Antarctica.

[@ninakrishnamurthy6674]

@@2wingo You could probably chalk this up to artistic license. After all, this would be a much shorter movie if Outpost 31 had no flamethrowers.

[@RedwoodTheElf]

Have you ever considered doing a "Lost in adaptation" of Felidae, "A novel of cats and murder?"

[@dorkassjc7906]

0:40 you included Prince of Darkness in that list of classics you have forever earned my respect

[@ashessakura7518]

The “It’s not a dog! It’s not a dog!” in Norwegian was a brilliant touch after I learnt what he was yelling

[@misfitrogue989]

I'm still waiting for Phantom of the Opera

[@elijahblechman8633]

which one?

[@misfitrogue989]

2004

[@joelmole3157]

That's coming soon, just not yet

[@JurassicReptile]

the 50s one is my favourite. Although the one from 1925 had the best makeup

[@KeyBladeMaster-Dan]

Wish granted you get a triple episode

[@tirzahroseroot]

I just want to point out how much I love that Ditto plushie in the beginning.

[@DAv2003]

With this being based off a short story, I'm rather interested to see what you'd think of Candyman, another adaptation of a horror story done really well. Worth a watch if only for the soundtrack as well.

[@alexanderminuzzo4839]

The tone of this video was fantastic. Letting the content be the entertainment rather than relying on pure bombastic delivery like so many other creators. Props, man!

[@anthonyweber1759]

Now I want a review of Cronenberg's The Fly. 😊

[@przemysawzanko6700]

Thanks for covering this topic. I enjoy your videos immensely. I hope you get to make them.

[@Vashthestampede967]

Hmm I wonder if he'll ever do a review with krimson rogue.

[@TheEarthquake1001]

YES PLEAS!

[@hc7210]

They’d be too powerful. The world was collapse. I’d love to see it though

[@jordandehart6905]

I always wanted him to do a crossover with Linkara, especially since they seem to be friends.

[@Vashthestampede967]

@@jordandehart6905 they reviewed watchmen together.

[@scouttyra]

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[@krumpittube]

Love the thing, the practical effects are still stunning to this day

[@ButterflyScarlet]

I feel like separating art from artists is difficult depending on the genre. For example if someone writes a super empowering feminist book, that sounds dope! If you later find out that the person is in fact an abusive TERF then the girl power message falls a bit flat. Basically it's hard to read a Lovecraft novel knowing that every time he says "good breeding" he means "not you".

[@jaysea5939]

The Fly is some prime Jeff Goldblum doing his Jeff Goldblum thing. Good on you for braving your way through The Thing!

[@DarthAndrew520]

So I take it in general you're not really able to separate the artist from their work? I dont really think an author's/creator's person is an actual criticism of a given book/work

[@JenFoxworth]

Awwww, the Dom is so cute in this one! Also, weirdly, his elbows are more defined in the greenscreen and never noticed it before.... weird. Love the cohost, adorable and creative way to integrate the two channels. Love it! Want her beanie.

[@MikeTheBike]

I honestly dont understand why it matters if the author was racist if the story in question isn't Like I find it important to try and seperate the art from the artist because if we were to stop listening/watching/reading things by terrible people then a lot of old classic will probably have to be thrown out the window Hell some modern shit would too

[@JustAnotherPerson4U]

There are debates within literature on how much does an author's background matter in a story. Some literary critics think that we should consider the book as a separate entity and the author's life is separate from it. Others think that it is very relevant and that it's impossible to separate authorial context from the book itself. It's important to separate your personal feelings of the author when reading the book for the story, but it's equally as important to be aware of any important events or views that they had that may be recurrent in their book or books. Because authors of the past generally liked to push their own views through the books they published. And they were usually all white upper/middle class men with some famous female writers.

[@MikeTheBike]

@ULGROTHA Yes he said that at first but the last thing he says is if youve seen the movie then you could read the book if you can get past the idea that the author was a racist

[@MikeTheBike]

@@JustAnotherPerson4U I think if a book is trying to push an agenda you dont agree with then its valid to tie the author to it but thats more of a case by case basis imo

[@JustAnotherPerson4U]

@@MikeTheBike not just what you don't agree with. Also stuff that maybe you do agree with. I haven't read the short story but a story doesn't have to directly contain messages that indicate out of date views like racism. It could be subtle and a matter of interpretation. So, for example, someone could possibly make an interpretation that the alien being kept in isolation is a metaphor for segregation of black people and that if they're allowed to mix they'll try and kill everyone etc. Now, I'm just basing that from what I've heard in the video about the author being racist and the story, I would need to back it up with textual evidence. But my point is that just because it isn't obvious doesn't mean it's can't be there. So there could be subtle racist messages in the story. In any story really (not racist messages as such but a message that the author feels is important). So, I do think it's important that Dom mentions something like this so that if people do pick up or interpret a racist message or theme, they can be aware that its not out of keeping. It's almost impossible to forget a timeperiod in which a book is written however much we try. And we shouldn't change old books words where the author is dead. Sorry, it sounds like I was having a go. I was just giving my opinion on why I think Dom feels its relevant to include. In this case I would say it is relevant personally.

[@MikeTheBike]

@@JustAnotherPerson4U Its all good I just dont like to attach art to artist thats my personal way of looking at things

[@Hum0ng0us]

MacReady being a helo pilot not only give the thing a way out but explains how they can check the Norwegian camp as well as making him a great suspect with the thing having a possible way out of Antarctica.

[@swanofnutella4734]

13:20 "The sheer amount of heavy fire arms available to these [American] 'scientists' seems a little excessive..." Oh you adorable adorable non-American. That's just... so cute.

[@QwertyCaesar]

Technically having firearms on the continent is illegal. That said the flamethrowers are both acceptable and commonly used. The book was from before flamethrowers existed so it didn't have any.

[@Ladyvirgule]

That tie is NEAT.

[@Broadwaychica]

This was so great. One of my favorite horror films and your interactions with ThatMovieChick are precious and fun. As for half the commenters here, "separate the artist from the art" is not law, and the idea that you MUST ignore a creator's bigotry while discussing their work is simply foolish. It's his prerogative, just as it's yours to ignore it. Go be Devil's Advocate elsewhere if you don't like it.