John Company 2nd Edition - 4p Teaching & Play-through by Heavy Cardboard

[@zhivik]

An amazing playthrough, and as always, an immense pleasure from having Cole at the table! It shows when Cole is really enthusiastic about his games, and I am so happy we got to see that :) I would very much love to see another take on this, hopefully with Alyssa on board as well.

[@SilentBeutlin]

The round 2 parliament phase here is just JoCo2E at its best. Even though Shrey is the least experienced player on the table, he found himself in a position of immense leverage as both Cole and Edward really need his votes, making for some really interesting discussion and in-theme dealmaking. Just good stuff.

[@Arkhonai]

Oh I preordered this one and can't wait its arrival, thank you so much for shooting this video. Will have a great time with it :) Hope you had fun with the new edition as well :)

[@jthor9535]

What a way to play the game - with the designer! Excited to try this one out with my group. Thank you for the high quality setup and play through. Now I wish I got the metal coins!

[@Heavycardboard]

Glad you enjoyed it and it’s always great to have friends, who happen to be designers, join us for their games! Cheers!

[@afriendofafriend5766]

Still waiting for that TI4 promissory note talk.

[@der.Schtefan]

There is a major misunderstanding of probabilities here. It is not 80 vs 87% success being 7% more. It is actually 20% failure vs 13% failure, thus a reduction of 35% of all failure cases. Humans are terrible correctly valuing probabilities. Technically, you need to assign the potential outcomes an expected value to correctly assess the situation. When you do the first role for two regions, and you roll dice for an outcome of 18 pounds, the expected outcome of 80 vs 87% is 14.4 vs 15.6. So even after spending an extra pound, 14.4 vs 14.6 always favors 5 dice and the extra pound for the costs, and greatly increases success rates!

[@stephenowen9382]

Unless Cole visited the UK before 15th February 1971 he would have encountered five new pence pieces rather than shillings - just saying! Enjoyed the play through and looking forward to gaming with my own copy.

[@hipiticlivi7400]

My game group is a little bit too petty (me included) to play negotiation games, but I really like this one. I love how the game became a co op at the end, I'm always fond of games that can create multiple stories.

[@johngoodwin9606]

Wow. An amazing game. Looking forward to getting my copy by Oct sometime.

[@ricardolecocq]

i would love to see more of this one. Thanks for the game.

[@Kulpo]

Hi Cole! I think a lot of people asked you this already but I never seen the answer. Is there a reason why the dice checks look for the smallest result instead of going the other way around and making a five or six good?

[@colewehrle8718]

We found it easier to spot a low number in a crowd of dice rather than a high roll.

[@tamada92]

@@colewehrle8718 sounds logical! can't our brain recognize up to the number 5 at once, while we have to start consciously counting from 6 on? Think i read it in Kahnemanns 'Thinking slow, thinking fast'. My copy of JC arrived a couple of days ago, looks wonderful, beautiful work, thank you :)

[@tyzwzh855]

question," President of madras" candidates both writers and the governor need to be associated with this presidency, or only the governor need to be associated with this Presidency

[@jrousselle7828]

This was VERY entertaining. The political jockeying was a joy to watch.

[@Asaloy]

How long does it take to learn the game? 5 hours?

[@-Markus-]

30 min rundown and then learn as you go imo, the game components does a superb job at guiding and aiding players along. Its a game with a lot of moving parts but surprisingly simple and intuitive rules. Mostly!

[@tinstargames]

How do you sell all that stuff and make no money?

[@-Markus-]

What stuff?

[@der.Schtefan]

If you're in THAT bad of a shape as they are in Turn 3, there is no reason to NOT take on max debt. The company must not fail, and any emergency loans will make you fail anyway. Go big or go home, clear out India. It is naive to tank the company when you're not really ahead.

[@-Markus-]

Learning game for fun and for show, with new players not having overview of the game and its strategies. Chill a little and realize this is not a strategy guide 😂

[@BoxofDelights]

Great stuff ! Superb stream and a great teach. Very entertaining guys! Looking forward to getting a copy to the table... R.R.

[@-Markus-]

If Cole Wehrle doesnt eventually design a new version of "Republic of Rome" its a lost opportunity for the hobby and world!

[@mohammeda.al-hasani8784]

I would love to see new version of Republic of Rome specially one by Cole ⭐️

[@aelix56]

You guys should do an advanced playthrough, I'm really curious how it works.

[@SilentBeutlin]

This please.

[@ymagier3d]

Yes with a rolling teach

[@aelix56]

@@ymagier3d They really need to get an expert roller in there asap

[@Feldmrschl]

Awesome stream. I really liked the 1st edition stream from some time ago, but this newer edition looks much better components-wise. I will probably pick up a copy. Please, please, please stream this game again. Very entertaining.

[@KevinHoekman]

Shrey wins the game and rolled the worst, had no bonuses and was never a governor. The only company setup was overthrown immediately. Worst. Company. Ever.

[@blackrum3278]

It's so sympathetic to see that even Cole needs to recheck the rules sometimes!

[@elqord.1118]

Holy hell..what a beast of a game. Can’t wait to get my copy. PS: I love how Cole says he’ll provide a compact teach and then goes into full detail on all almost all elements with a teach that goes over an hour.

[@stephenwyda2568]

Yeah, the teach on this game is what makes me worried about its accessibility. I love the look and gameplay of it and the historic aspect of the game. Really well designed, but if it takes the game designer an hour to go over the rules, it will be tough to bring on new players to this. I am not sure it is a game that can really be taught via a game master directing and dictacring each aspect of the rules along the way as you are playing it.

[@Cloggington]

I've taught this game a few times, takes me about 30 min with a rolling teach. Think Cole explained in much detail here, which is useful for a video to fully understand the game but not as a style of teach fpr this.

[@stephenwyda2568]

@@Cloggington when you do a rolling teach for this game do you get a lot of questions from players along the way and do you find yourself having to keep adding additional rule information along the way? Just seems like a lot of rules to get across for a rolling teach.

[@malexander4094]

@@stephenwyda2568 Throughout the teach, Cole is clear this is an HC-specific teach, and what he'd skim or skip. E.g., there is no need to talk about Commanders before Round 2. If you were to teach just the mechanics, it might only take 10-15 mins. Most rolling teaches get everything underway within 30 mins, by which point you've also played most or all of one turn. Questions come up, but most rules are very circumstantial in John Company. You don't need to know the rules for Commanders, India events, etc. while the Manager of Shipping is taking their turn, for instance.

[@oerthling]

@@stephenwyda2568 As Cole said himself - that's nor how you teach JC. The fact that the turn is divided into very distinct phases where the individual phases don't need that much individually, makes it straightforward to teach while going through the first turn.

[@AndrewCCleverley]

Played this, this afternoon for the first time. Enjoyed it, but we definitely made mistakes so came here to check the rules teach. Hadn't intended on watching the whole thing but it's now 2am and I have work in the morning... but that's a tomorrow problem!

[@adavies425]

I would love to see another Root playthrough on your channel with the newer expansions.

[@Sebastian-rt9qf]

Thanks for the stream Edward and thanks for the teach Cole! Can't wait to receive it this fall. But it will be a tough one for the basic crowd in the game group.

[@Tanks.With.Teeth.Malloy]

I am so happy this video exists. I know how JC worked...kinda...but this really nails down everything about the game for me.

[@TheMylreid]

Probably my favorite playthrough of any game I've ever watched -- seemed like so much fun! Love the laughter.

[@thenewamericanunderground3149]

very, very high up on the list!

[@vrnkplaysboardgames]

I agree

[@okuzhori]

The last john company game on guerric samples games channel is soo funny. Its called sodium overload, they do a whole campaign

[@JAMman]

Rewatched this because joco is awesome and I gotta say, Edward you killed it with the camera during this playthrough

[@demo4444]

fantastic, going in solo boys....and threw in for the upgraded coins as well ;) can't wait

[@aarondovauo1471]

Such an awesome session! You guys really sold just how fun and interactive I’ve been hoping it will be when my group gets their hands on it. Solid work as usual. 👍

[@bsademax5135]

Anybody have the link for that discord server Cole mentioned? I'd love to play a game or two before my pledge arrives and I'm tasked with teaching others.

[@JohnDoe-sn9pz]

Had a really hard time following the teach and was so confused. I usually don't mind complex games, but this was losing me. Until they started playing :o. I need to try this now!

[@camroth89]

I want to like this game, but the randomness is just too much in my opinion.

[@gerosmind2863]

It's the fun part

[@-Markus-]

Its glorious! Makes the game more alive, and not just everyone head down number crunching.

[@simplybs9311]

Game Starts at 1:21:21

[@MNNoxMortem]

I can't await to play it. I don't know how Cole does it every single time, but he is such a master crafter. His games just click differently with me.

[@ksotar]

I just can't get it on 2:49:27 You deploy to the Company region successfully from the second attempt to clear the orders and suppress the unrest. But you did nothing of that, but just somehow took the money for the loot for the military, when there was obviously no loot in the region left, since it already belongs to the Company?

[@ksotar]

Ah, they have remembered what they did at 2:56:40 :)

[@saluk7419]

The Obra Dinn! Nice reference Cole!

[@nzcamel3]

Haven't watched this yet, but much EXCITE! Been waiting on this one for a while!! 😁

[@joshford886]

Game looks great! Not sure I currently have the game group for this type of game. I love when games have historical background.

[@warlord76i]

Such an awesome game. I can`t wrap my head around, how one starts to design such a game like this.

[@mattsbalgard4276]

This is hands down the best video on this unique game.

[@slo6026]

Just to clarify, you cant buy company ships if you haven't bought all of the players ships first correct?

[@-Markus-]

Correct, governers can build them though.

[@juancsuarez]

At @46:21 regarding the assignment of commanders that have been outnumbered, Cole mentions that in case of tie it goes to the previous player. Can anybody tell me what he meant? If I'm reading the rules correctly, in case of a tie the Military Affairs player chooses any officer from the tied players.

[@warblefly81]

This is a great playthrough. Would love to eventually see a full campaign play!!!

[@buddha1062]

Man I'd love to play this game. Shame I don't have anyone who would play it with me.

[@Mark-jagger]

Ricky Royal designed the solo mode for this one which I suspect will be very good so it doesn’t have to be a shame….

[@2532robh1]

What country or state are you in?

[@buddha1062]

@@2532robh1 I'm in New Zealand.

[@ghostbreakergaming]

The solo mode is excellent. The game is just as immersive solo as it is with more players. Ricky Royal did a great job.

[@GIVEPAUSEhobby]

This was such an incredible teach and play through, thank you so much for both aspects! I went into the video already really interested to one day try out JoCo, And over the course of a few days picking out the video whenever I had time to sink my teeth (and my brain) into it, I came out the other side having ordered the game online! Can’t wait to start having some of the ridiculous scenarios that I saw and you talked about afterwards with my own game groups!

[@matje2096]

I think you missed the governor bonus in the second round for Edward. You taxed the country for 2 pounds but if I understood the rules correctly Edward should also receive 2 pounds for his family due to the previous roll being a failure.

[@carrickrichards2457]

Unique game! Clever design, interesting, very thematic and satisfying. I think this is the best of all the 'Pax' games, and they are all good. Looking forward to your 2nd edition of 'An Infamous traffic' (and I hear interesting rumours of a 'Pax Romanum' game?)

[@Rorynes]

If anyone can learn the rules of John company,can play any board game.I haven't seen more difficult game to learn.

[@andiarbeithb]

Why did they move the ships to the South in Round 3 when there were no open trading opportunities there?

[@blakraven66]

3:26:08 Successful Invasion of Madras would have opened all orders there to allow a 4 length trade route into Mysore, unfortunately Shrey rolled poorly despite 5 dice.

[@andiarbeithb]

​@@blakraven66thank you!

[@gustavakerfelt6691]

Played our first game tonight, after rewatching this. Great game, so glad we got it to the table, and so glad i watched this first. Made the rolling teach so much easier and probably about 10 times better.

[@beakerkell]

Looks like a lot of fun! I can't stop refreshing the VFI Asia shipping page to see when this is expected to arrive.

[@Mr.OwlGamer]

Cole is the best! Amazing game

[@mosjef]

Great vid, thanks! Looking forward to the next play, hopefully w firms!

[@franceski1682]

this looks great, too bad i haven't had the money to back it when it was on the kickstarter, hopefully there'll be copies to get after the first deliveries

[@TheAush22]

Wow, the sequel to Village is much more involved. Very excited for my copy to show up!

[@smspk4]

Had a blast with this playthrough. Just a totally unique social experience.

[@TelexStar79]

Question... During Round 2 revenue, when you had to take an emergency loan to pay for expenses. Company balance was on 7 and your expenses were 9. Taking a Company Loan would have put you on 12, would it not? Then you pay your 9 expenses to leave you on a Company Balance of 3, not 0.

[@TelexStar79]

Ahh I've just seen the line in the rules at the end of the Emergency Loans explaination that says "Finally, set the Company Balance to zero." I guess this is a penalty to taking an unexpected loan?

[@jac9140]

Ditto on the advanced play through, never quite figured it out with 1st edition

[@BoardGamesBooksAndWhat]

Really awesome playthru and game. Is it to late to get a complete copy of this?

[@Streetsam]

Great!

[@JendersGaming]

That was a great video! I and my friend are going to do a playthrough of this tonight...hope I get this right haha. Thx for the video!

[@2532robh1]

How did it go? Did you like it?

[@JendersGaming]

@@2532robh1 The game is good, no doubt, but for me I felt like it was a bit to much going on haha

[@OgamiTringle]

Just got my copy. An absolute work of art.

[@bung1975]

After the teach, I absolutely want this game now!

[@Squatch_needs_no_heroes]

Cole is the greatest living games designer.

[@gee3161]

Great job Ed and the gang, congrats Shrey!

[@youseev]

I feel so happy for the indian people

[@jnehsObligatoryContentCreation]

lookin good 🎉

[@Heavycardboard]

It sure is quite the game, eh?

[@BenGreen1980]

now I want to see your 2nd or 3rd play!

[@st0ox]

would love to see it again on this channel

[@nickvandenbroeke1688]

Where is the dice tray from?

[@pickes]

I know what I will do tonight…

[@AUMOTmusic]

yes please to more JoCo!

[@claumoe]

Very helpful teach

[@browe]

Moar plays, please!

[@simonanderson4858]

What a game

[@matemate8192]

What's TI4 stands for?

[@alpardal]

Twilight Imperium, 4th edition

[@davidvelazquez677]

Is the teach really this long? 👀😬

[@earthen105]

Normally you would not teach it this way. Normally you teach the first round as you play it, so just a bit of general explanation, then start playing.

[@Heavycardboard]

As @earthen said, normally it’d be a rolling teach. In fact, we did a subsequent stream showing just that.

[@ymagier3d]

Can you redo one teach rolling teach

[@kristijan1985]

nice haircut ;)

[@MaSchmi]

sorry but the new design is awful. The old Map was lot better than this.

[@SilentBeutlin]

And here they are: Today’s most wrong person on the internet.

[@Habbaku]

The first edition didn't even have a map.

[@SilentBeutlin]

@@Habbaku ah maybe that was the joke and I’m the idiot.

[@Habbaku]

​@@SilentBeutlin I'm honestly not sure. Describing the new design as "awful" while making a comment to a non-existent map just seems like a troll to me.

[@ArnoVdVelde]

@@Habbaku Might also be referring to the map that was used during testing/was shown during the kickstarter. Before they got an artist to redo the board.