John Deere 9120

[@MrTurdfergusen]

Haha, Wes that Brand new part is a Drive Shaft Shield, I work in inspection now and we just got finished making all of those. It was an afterthought safety concern, if that drive shaft breaks it swings around and busts the hydraulic lines, if you loose hydraulics on that tractor going down the road or climbing up or down a hill, you have no steering and no brakes!! We made 80,000 pieces in about 6 months, every 9000 tractor every made had to have that kit installed, wherever they are in the world. It's cool to see one actually installed!!

[@jankotze1959]

+MrTurdfergusen Sir thank you for the info, was that a sort of a call back from JD, that one get sometimes with cars, and do the owners had to buy it or did JD supplied it free as a safety measure?

[@michaelmactavish1728]

+Jan Kotze kubota M6 series a 170hp tractor are selling for $73,000 wich not bad for a big heavy duty size tractor

[@woodman1241]

+Michael Mac Tavish a 9120 is not 170 horse dude what is your obsession with thinking that Kubota is the shit for pulling wes's new baler you do realize he is replacing a tractor that makes 189 at the PTO right? that tractor your saying is 170hp that's its rating at the flywheel it drops like 20hp to the PTO on those kubotas. the Kubota prob could hardly turn the flywheel over on that krone baler. go hop on a lawnmower. price is not everything if you get the cheapest tractor but it doesn't do the work you need it for your further behind than if you bought quality

[@heyhey1956]

+Michael Mac Tavish Don't you get it that Wes needs 250HP+ or better to run the Krone big baler efficiency so why would you even consider a Kubota tractor? I'm not saying they're a bad tractor it's just horses for courses!

[@landykid]

+woodman1241 he's been banned twice from BillsTMaxx fan page because his fetish with Kubota he crazily obsessed with Kubota for some reason

[@MrTurdfergusen]

That "Block Thing" you were looking at is the steering stop for shipping, they attach to the steering cylinders to stop them from compressing. Worked on the Assembly Line. Those things are monsters!!

[@rat4spd]

+MrTurdfergusen You from the 'Loo?

[@MrTurdfergusen]

+rat4spd Yes Sir!!

[@rat4spd]

As am I.

[@iMatt65]

I toured the Waterloo facility around 2003 - Amazing to watch these beast go together.

[@PaulieFetz]

Listed on Tractorhouse (2005 model, 2277 hours, SN RW9120HO30039) for $99,500...but you can probably get it for a lot less. Big tractors haven't been moving that much, but there might be other circumstances regarding the trade-in value, the repair history, etc. Good luck, Wes!!

You came across as happier in this 'episode' than EVER before. New machinery & its prospects seem to act as a tonic....

[@bull3tsyndrom3]

Flipping tires works a treat, did it on our 3640 to gain more width and they run in line much better when ploughing. Handy getting 4 spare tires as well :)

[@SteveHolsten]

Wes, that is one fine tractor. You're moving on up. I'm proud for you.

[@SteveHolsten]

I was hoping you'd get this tractor

[@waults]

Only thing I would be concerned about is having the extra U-joints and gearbox that will be associated with the PTO in this tractor. I would question if everything is built heavy enough for constant high HP duty or if it's designed to run light loads for short amounts of time, i.e. a grain cart. IMO, you should be looking for a tractor with a CVT for that baler. The infinitely variable speed adjustment at full engine RPM is ideal for baler work.

[@Nicolasdu5]

you are right Sir

[@chadminnesotahiredman4093]

Wes. We haul manure with a T9 New Holland. We moved the inside wheels all the way to the outside. Just slid them out. Works really well.

[@larrystockwell8994]

It is nice to be able to explore your options. Just looking at only one model isn't the wisest. That is why it is called shopping around. Enjoy the looking.

[@buddy3020now]

The new cast peace under neath is a PIP kit. it is nothing more than a shield to contain the drive shaft if it breaks. I'm a mechanic at a JD dealer and we have been doing a lot of those kits.

[@w056007568]

Interesting close up of the tractor, thanks. I think the key issues are what is the cost of adding a PTO and what the turning radius is with one set of widened out wheels and of course the actual cost compared to a standard tractor with enough power to drive the baler correctly. It's overall length when coupled to the baler might cause some issues getting into narrow gateways and small fields.

[@Rp47.5]

On

[@philburton8527]

Gosh, I don't know what sounds better the tractor or listening to you yammer.

[@chopplolo72]

i have ran an john deere 8640 and the steiger articulated tractor alot. they are a little smaller than that but i loved running them. once you get used to the articulation its fun to drive.

[@bradchoq]

Those dual hubs come off and then you can move the wheels out to the end of the axles. That would be much easier than trying to flip them around. Getting rid of the duals would allow you to turn sharper too. Your 8120 is going to turn circles around this beast though. I think the turning radius is 12 feet

[@jacobfischer5728]

That seems like a good tractor to buy and I live in Northeast Washington and there is guys that use articulated tractors and they seem to work fine with no problems and they use them all of the time.

[@thetortillafarmer9904]

Great tractor for the ground work you do

[@therealjimguy]

Anything is better than the front end falling apart all the time like your current machine does. I'd say go for it!

[@7810ftw]

wes i know your a deere guy as am i but i would take a look at fendt they have the best transmission for baling by far and you can get alot of horsepower in a much smaller package im really considering buying one for my next tractor !

[@Horndog262]

It's really nice to bale with a big 4 wd tractor. Handles the baler a lot better.

[@kevinroberts8021]

we have a kron baler thanks to you and a 9120 to pull it. on the back of the baler we have a 22 bale stacker on the back

[@Sean-if7rp]

Very nice, looks very clean

[@TheAkrumy32]

I know a guy fan a john deere 9630 on a case ih lbx332 I think and it worked fine didn't use probably a 1/3 of what the tractor could do. the articulate tractors are way better on turning for pto shafts. obviously less angle to the pto on the implement because center of tractor pivots. I know they had to out a special adapter on to pto, to harness that much hp to the bailer. I would think alot if these tractors would be out their as they need pto to operate the bigger grain carts and with lease returns you could get a very good deal. one thing to look out for is these types of tractors are used often as packing tractors in silage pits and the transmissions are pounded to death shifting. rims can take a beating in silage all the time too... acidic.

[@51schmitty]

Seeing that big tractor pull that baler around would be amazing to see! Keep up the great work! 👍

[@destinationlunar]

For everyone that says "Why Do You Need This Tractor" Or "This Tractor is To Much For A Bailer" I think Wes is thinking of Turning because an articulated tractor is a great turning tractor you all have seen the Tight Turns he does. Yes it is way over the horsepower needed for his bailer but on the other hand the Krone is rated way higher than most other bailers as far as horse power thats is needed. Also if he was to go with a tractor like this if he decided to get anything else for what he does Horse Power would never be an issues. That all being said if the price is right then this tractor may be cheaper in the long run because the way I see it is if he is running his equipment at damn Idle in the long run wear on the Engine, Transmission etc would be less because its not working hard what so ever!! I also think that if noone is running a Bailer on this tractor is because well no one ever tried it before and its about god damn time someone did! Personally I think Wes is thinking about this tractor is all those lights as he is a guy that thinks about the big picture not just the Right Now Picture. His Political Views show that he is a Free Thinker (Thats A Good Thing By The Way). Hell I don't think he cares if its too big if he buys it its because he thinks it is what he needs or wants and it my book thats all he has to justify to me! I think it would be kinda cool to see this in front of the Krone myself!!!

[@steinwaymodelb]

This tractor will definitely be outside of it's element as a hay tractor. It can work, and they're usually relatively cheap horsepower, but if you do go this route, I expect you will be moving on before the end of the next season. :)

[@cjtrum74]

Damn that is close to where I live. Only five minutes from my house! Keep up the good work OLF and making entertaining and informal videos!

[@billwhitman1529]

You definitely have a sense of humor. There are tractors available that will meet your HP requirements that are not articulating. I really think your big tractor will pull the Krone fine.

[@kevinwillis9126]

wes i like your excitement about the tool box on the back for the draw/hitch pin... but apart from that nice looking tractor and lots of $$$...

[@kevinwillis9126]

+Kevin Willis oh does the birds nest come free if you buy it LOL...

[@two-strokesmoke7289]

It will take some getting use to Wes, way back in the day, we pulled a Vermeer round bale with a 256 versatile articulating bi- directional tractor. Every time you turn,the baler pickup goes the other direction than expected, end up missing a lot of hay until you learn to compensate for the " ass waggle" of an articulating tractor drawbar!!!!!!!!!

[@Ghostrider304]

If you buy that beast, I'm coming to NJ to drive it!!! LOL!!!

[@tommypayne1980]

take a look at the fendt 1050 vario , it has 500 hp and max speed of 37.3 mph plus it's a standard tractor not articulated

[@carsonsobieski9624]

We have the same tractor and we love it

[@basclaas]

You Should consider a jcb fasttrac those have amazing road speed

[@planeiron7553]

+basclaas yep I think I would go with a trac type JD

[@arthurtoon1922]

what a beast of a tractor!!

[@CLUNK6170]

if i was buying that tractor for what you need it for i would chance the wheels to super singles to allow better traction and less compaction. Fit the underside of the tractor with polycarbonate sheeting to make the underside smooth for the hay to slide under

[@benjismith7108]

the piece on front of trans is a update to protect hoses if drive line breaks. I have personally installed lots.

[@bryang9095]

You dont need a 4wd for baleing you just need a bigger front wheel assist! Look for a bigger Deere, Massey, Fendt they will handle that baler just fine, they do make FWD tractors that make 300+hp!!

[@jankotze1959]

Very nice tractor indeed, but I would not go for it for baling only, especially in the small fields and long distances sometimes, you can get that power and more in the shape of your JD 8120. You will miss the turning circle and the Big Pack Krone might just through its ass around because of the weight in these tractors sits at the front, but ya, I am not a pro, only my thinking

[@zoebax69]

I don't see why articulated would be a bad choice. The tires will follow each other on the ends when u turn case u worry bout compaction. Sometimes for a fwa it's cheaper to buy a full articulated. And Wes Why can't you just take the insides off and run the duals on the hubs? Get u as wide as possible and still have stability. They make great planter tractors. And backing them I think is easier in a corner. If you ran a pull pan you would understand. They are awsome. Great buy But my opinion.

[@scottoverman4630]

A local farmer in our area pulled one of the biggest krone baler with a case 9350 4. wheel drive !!!! worked great but must be carefully with passing cars on small roads when getting over the rear will swing baler in to road ditch when pulling out!!!!!

[@joeglass2704]

We have had multiple john deere and case 4wd tractors but for the price and quality of a Versatile you can't go wrong.

[@justinschwien3357]

Wes! Justin here again. I think I remember you talking about your International loader in a video here recently saying how you didn't like it for stacking bales because it was so slow and akward. This 9120 is going to be just like hooking up your baler to the International loader. I know. I have had many John Deere FWD tractors. I encourage you to test one of these out on a baler before you take the plunge. If not. At least the videos are going to be hilarious when your beating yourself in the head trying to bale with a tractor that takes 50 feet of turning radius!!

[@ianspelman6088]

I say go for it you will not regret investing in an articulated tractor with the amount of acres you have

[@allied1394]

I'd go for it if the price was right those are great for pulling that's for sure. It's a good alternative if you start looking at a step up from 8120 in a non articulating tractor price will probably be more then that 9125. Good luck I'd love to see that bad boy ripping through pandy farms

[@Erated78]

Great video Wes. Really enjoyed the vid, smart of you to get right under the tractor for a visual.

[@AJmx2702001]

having run steigers on Big Square Balers was always a treat to have the view and better ride and enough tractor to get around hills and wet spots and a good set of 30.5 tires was enough

[@heyhey1956]

+Aaron Stern I didn't see any videos of a Case IH Steiger pulling a big baler on your Y/T channel in fact I didn't see any videos whatsoever of a Case IH Steiger in any of your uploads!

[@AJmx2702001]

Well I am only going to share video of high performance Tractor pulling so sorry you won't ever see any thing else from me I don't have the time for it

[@AJmx2702001]

Really never said I was putting up a steiger baler video

[@heyhey1956]

Aaron Stern OK so do you own a Case IH Steiger or not?

[@heyhey1956]

Aaron Stern Well your original comment said "having run steigers on Big Square Balers was always a treat to have the view and better ride and enough tractor to get around hills" and to myself and most other people that is insinuating you were driving or operating a Case IH Steiger pulling a big baler, which from all accounts was total & utter BULLSHIT HUH?

[@daveschuetrum576]

You need to really consider the turning radius of that tractor. I think that is one to pass up and stick with the regular type tractor.

[@jacobschillig7290]

The turning radius is still terrible compared to a conventional tractor

[@daveschuetrum576]

+Jd5083e Thanks Jd!

[@bchs98]

+Dave Schuetrum doesn't matter, He can turn as wide as he wants. Just skip a windrow or two each pass if he needs a wider turn.

[@daveschuetrum576]

+bchs98 Good point...I did not think of that.

[@davidjfiedler]

+bchs98 I remember him saying he already skips windrows when bailing because it's easier on the drivetrain.

[@tedkahler9738]

make sure you make a belly pan or the hay will wrap around the drive shafts.... drove down a windrow moving fields and took a while to get all the hay off the shafts

[@dannyshuknecht7944]

The farm I work at has two 9120 they do most of the feild work run dump carts in the summer for fresh peas and fresh sweet corn. One of our 9120s has 9000 hrs and the other has 11000 In the fall they run manure spreaders. The neighbor right next door to us also has two 9120s they has a blade for silage and the other they run on a new Holland baller they are great Tractors.

[@poisonusram4262]

I used to have one on Farming Simulator 2013

[@Aaron-qm8py]

Pretty good looking work horse and would pull really well but their cornering is quite bad. Just thinking on the clearance, if you did buy it and had issues with it being too low would you be able to run a tyre with a greater outer diameter

[@rikjhh09]

What I use that hay doesn't catch on the bottom of my tractor is a piece of conveyor belt that runs the length of the tractor.

[@bryang9095]

Its farther then u think to the baler, remember u use to sit above the rear tires

[@heyhey1956]

+Bryan G You're 100% correct in what you said, like Wes is talking about watching the pickup on a camera WRONG you got to be as close as possible to the pickup to monitor the operation with your eyes, like I said in my earlier comment if the JD 9120 was such a good tractor for baling hay don't you think it would have been manufactured with a PTO on it? Wes, if you think it's such a good idea to use a 9120 for baling Y/T search 'John Deere 9120 tractor baling hay' and share all the videos of a 9120 baling hay with everybody else then!

[@Blasterxp]

On point comment. Its a long way. Not so nice in a small field

[@kylewil12plays]

Looks like a nice tractor for bailing hay

[@autodoc9609]

Awesome JD!

[@evg0015]

Start shopping in Canada. With the US exchange you might be able to save a pile of money.

[@zackzander4425]

Damn good point there eh!

[@paulbouwman229]

Europe is cheaper than Canada. There are guys in Canada importing newer 200hp+ tractors for $30000 cheaper than they can buy in Canada.

[@buffranchAB]

+Eric Van Geest Hell Yeah! I concur!

[@jimmyturner3715]

this is just my 2 cents I would do the ECM upgrade on the 8120 run it to see how it does and if it don't then upgrade to a bigger tractor.

[@jimmyturner3715]

+Jesse Klaus well a bigger radiator and maybe an aftercooler is still cheaper than a newer bigger tractor

[@deerezilla7013]

Wes looks to be a good idea for cheap hp. I'm running a 8335r with a ivt with a krone1290 high speed hdp . But we also have a 8100 runing that same baler. In 3 to4 ton hay the 8100 gets worked but she gets it done.

[@swampratt36]

Those inner tires will run out on the axle with the perpendicular bolt on the hub after loosening the hub bolts . The adjustment will give you quite a bit maybe not 10" on each side but close to it .

[@garethsmith8525]

Great video Wes that is big tractor if do get it be good see that on the baler people saying its to big well you got farm there other things it can be used for as well

[@Northern_Farmer]

The turning radius is not that bad... my cases will turn quite well. That tractor is really quite small for a articulated tractor at 270hp. I have seen some older 4wd run round balers when it was really wet.

[@jbwireless1701]

We have tried using an articulated tractor and they did not work well IMO, The only benefit of these things is power and traction, The articulated steering is the thing you will have to get use to when making turns, I wouldn't go back to one, but never getting stuck was a nice plus.. But It was night and day going between a regular tractor and an articulated. Good Luck! p.s I think your 8120 Would work fine with the new baler, Only on the big hills would you loose power IMO.

[@copperheadranch976]

we have a 9400 at work. It feels weird to drive them for the first little while.

[@JeffJamesoutdoors]

Yep, you need this tractor, and I will watch every video you post of it :)

[@mahart40]

You only want him to get the tractor so you have even more interesting videos, a bigger 8 series would be better for his farm because it will most likely be cheaper and the turning radius will be smaller

[@heyhey1956]

+M.A. Hartsfield 100% correct!

[@heyhey1956]

+Fredrick Mechanical Wes is just fucking with everybody over this 9120 John Deere articulated tractor idea to pull the new Krone baler, and there is one very good reason why Wes doesn't need this 9120 and that reason is called FUCKING COMMON SENSE!!! which most people don't have today, and isn't it funny that all these other farmers with common sense don't use articulated tractors to bale hay? like I said to Wes, if you think it's such a good idea to use a 9120 for baling Y/T search 'John Deere 9120 tractor baling hay' and share all the videos of a 9120 baling hay with everybody else then!

[@JCB411abuser]

+heyhey1956 what about the articulated tractors that are used for pull type choppers?? id say the biggest reason why no one uses artic tractor to bale hay is that balers are only now getting big enough to need the power and weight of these tractors.

[@heyhey1956]

JCB411abuser Sorry to disagree with you about articulated tractors on big balers the reason that 9120 is the wrong tractor for baling is simple it's just too heavy @ 16 tons and its turning circle sucks as well, if Wes is buying the Krone 1290 HDP it weighs just over 10.2 tons in weight according to Krone specifications, all Wes really needs is a tractor of equivalent weight or heavier like a John Deere 8530 which is just over 12 tons and has a 9.0L 6-cyl diesel putting out 330HP and lets not forget that baler has brakes on all 4 wheels HUH?

[@winfarms]

Wes I have two neighbors that have bought 9100 series with between 3000 and 4000 hours on them that developed oil leaks on the differentials one of them use it one season when the problem started $20000 dollars to repair the Front differential by the Second season The back differential had the same problem so ask questions

[@ScottLangager]

Wes if you were to get that tractor you can actually get wider tires and rims that would take the place of the duals

[@braddryden8568]

the john deere 9400 is a 425hp tractor that can be picked up for 45000-100000 depending on hours

[@austincampbell7243]

One farmer to another, I really think you would hate that tractor on the baler. There are lots of 8420-8430 and 8520-8530 tractors with low hours and plenty of HP for your baler. Not to mention how much more useful a different tractor would be if you decided to go back to growing some corn and soybeans in a few years.

[@garnetcampbell8295]

2015 936 380 hrs 360 HP 300+ PTO HP little more than $205000USD 40 Mph Vario transmission: What a Tractor. In a class by itself.

[@nobodypersonsomeone]

How would you turn sharp enough to follow the row in that thing? Seems like it would also be a pain to reverse with a baler on the back. Very cool machine though, cool video.

[@farmerjacked9079]

Little tricky with running a bailer with an articulated tractor but you'll get use to it. I run my bailer with my tv140 new holland bi directional

[@philipblass6544]

put a rake in between the tractor and baler. it would add to your length but eliminate windrow clearance issues.

[@philipblass6544]

ted the hay to dry and rake while baling.

[@ethantrout2407]

+Philip Blass what are you talking about?

[@philipblass6544]

+Ethan Trout search for videos using mac attach. they are using round balers but it shows the principles. wes would need a heavier frame for the rake and a long pto shaft.

[@philipblass6544]

+Ethan Trout another video is "John Deere 7420 Rakehand & Massey Ferguson 1839 square baler" posted by BakerServices

[@CJPhillips6648]

that's a lot of tractor. Perfect for 200 acres!

[@michiganfarming1955]

How about a JD 8530 that has some nuts for the new baler

[@curtisweems544]

Have you ever run across one of those older 7020's or 7520's artuculators ? Those are really cool looking old tractors. It would be one monster project to refirb. one of those. I would love to buy a late 60's early 70's 3020 or 4020 and redo the whole thing. Unfortunately I dont have a shop or the knowledge but I believe I could git er done !!

[@lennobroere5988]

when does the krone baler come and the tractor looks pretty good

[@wagil90]

There is a 9120 in Iowa at rolling Hills Equip. with the same hours for $87,000 according to tractor paper

[@rattlinurcage3]

Thats a nice 4wheeldrive

[@curtisweems544]

I love think that era (new generation 60's-72) had a really tough look with that square hood. My uncle had a 3020 gas and a 3020 Diesel late 60's But I swear the fenders were more rectangular and sat out over the tires farther than all the pictures I see of those tractors. Maybe im imagining that because I cant find pictures of those tractors with any different fenders

[@garnetcampbell8295]

ever think of a fendt? Those Varios are quite the machines.

[@nelsonmachineshop2032]

The next video could be about the 955 CAT.. Can't wait to see the work on the Cat.

[@TheNDFarmer]

now im a flatland farmer myself, but everybody saying 4WD articulated tractors are unstable have no idea what they're talkin about, the wheelbase is so wide and long its stable enough, only thing is turning that bitch around on the ends...

[@planeiron7553]

would a Trac Type tear the feilds up or have you thought about it

[@normanserena8617]

Fendt and Krone go together great

[@srvafool]

Tractor data has the horsepower rated at the pto at 230. Tested pto hp is 244

[@Royals_Fan]

That tractor on deere countries site is $99,500.

[@Royals_Fan]

Do you know anything about farming. Farmers work there ass off for the hopes that they have a good crop. And even if they have a good crop they are by no means rich even with subsidies. Im sure that Wes isnt rolling in the the money. I dont know his financial situation and dont care.

[@Royals_Fan]

+Kilhamjim for a couple of years. What does that matter?

[@mahart40]

+Kilhamjim then why did you ask?

[@sstroh08]

+Kilhamjim you make it clear you know nothing about farming, only what msnbc tells you about it...

[@Tigersfan829]

+Kilhamjim In one video I'm pretty sure he said he made $1 million in hay last year.

[@masonwise1383]

are you going to buy it. it is very cool

[@Dasquadwith6]

Wes, make yourself a skidplate, and you're GOOD!!

[@dstan128]

thats one big arse tractor

[@t.c.bowling1934]

would be nice tractor to pull stuck things out with. bailing? would have to try. how far would axles stick out after duals off? might be a pain going down the road since traffic never moves over.

[@eastpantherbenz]

Can you get a long enough cable for the baler monitor?

[@bigjohnypoper]

You could trade in the 7410 ( since its been giving you so much trouble) and the 8120 on that 9120 and buy a loader for your 7810

[@stevenwisner6848]

Wes have you thought of looking at a 9 series on tracks you would have the width and clearance you want plus pto shaft I think would be there

[@cantbyou3086]

The articulation is a snap to get used to, turning radius is about the same, being that far from the baler is a pos. and neg. Positive being that far from the cab the dust cloud 3/4 of the time isn't any where near you or the cab and you get a better over all view of everything. The neg. being when the dust is blowing toward you you wont be able to see anything especially at night. In my experience I've found that at night not use the rear cab lights, and put lights where I need them on the equipment I'm pulling and this way I don't get blinded by the dust cloud the cab lights illuminate

[@iowadairyboys]

When are you going to do other live QnA stream? If you are not to busy plowing snow in the morning you could do one then. Hopefully the blizzard won't knock out the power on you though, and at least I'm not getting over a foot of snow. lol If you can't do one it is not the worst thing ever.

[@jacob0229]

I like this plan

[@heyhey1956]

Wes, If you buying the Krone baler from Messicks get them to deliver this as well as the baler New Holland T8030 $125,000.00 Tractor, 1,900 Hours, 303hp Engine Rated (Tier 3 Engine), 19F & 4R Speed Powershift Transmission, 31mph Speed, HD Suspended MFD Front Axle, 540/1000 Pto, Cat III/IIIN HD 3 Point Hitch, Hyd Trailer Brakes, 200amp High Capacity Alternator, 4 Electronic Remotes, Low Pressure Motor Return, Deluxe Air Ride Seat, Buddy Seat, Radio, Ac/Heat, Beacon Light, Cat III High Capacity Drawbar, Engine Block Heater, 22 Front Weigths, 2,000lbs Rear Wheel Weights, 480/70R34 Front Duals, 520/85R46 Rear Duals, 1 Owner, Real Nice.www.messicks.com/used/ag-tractors/15154

[@RoanJS]

I bet it will be nice on those hills.

[@MontyPython12]

Take the duals off and put super singles on, that should give plenty of clearance for windrows. Reversing with a baler in tow is gonna be a bitch though!

[@rustyshank912]

Speaking of weird driving experiences. Wes have you ever drove an old Case all wheel/crab steer tractor? I own a Case 2470 and I can say it quite different to operate than a normal tractor and I am not suggesting one for the baler too slow and the transmission would probably suck for baling