john i love you

[@johncox2912]

This was seriously THE best series ever. It's a shame and a crime season 3 never materialized. They had SO MUCH going for them. A great Sarah Connor. A very believable and likable John Connor. And a second-to-none terminator in the form of Cameron. This show had it all. Great writing. Great characters. And some very good plot twists. I think Season 3 would have brought Cameron and John closer together and we would have seen the machines fighting back against the machines. Also, we would have found out WHY the machines were rebelling within their own ranks. Like Firefly, TSCC ended waaaaaayyyy too soon. I honestly cannot believe the short-sightedness of whoever makes these calls.

[@Defeat_MAGA]

It was my favorite series, but then I finally watched Battlestar Galactica *after*

[@larryfrazier5925]

Very true robot or not those two were in love..

[@deaddudegaming]

It got canceled because of American Idol. They kept moving the show around it be on for a few weeks then it be off for a month then come back and so no one knew when it would be hone or not. All to put American Idol on. It couldn't gain any traction and it's ratings dropped like a sack of potatoes. Thus they canceled the show. If they had kept it on consistently the show would probably have gotten decent ratings enough to go in to a season 3. In Season 3 I think they would have found their footing and this would have lead to high ratings allowing the show to continue. It usually takes most Sc-Fi shows a season or two to find their footing and they do they usually do well.

[@iainansell5930]

well... Fox is where good shows go to die.... if your show gets greenlit, you know they spend the next season or two trying to hobble it....

[@MrSCV9]

True!

[@jacobhawkins7116]

Pretty sure I wouldn’t care if she’s a robot.

[@martinlopatka4409]

Well John didnt care too xD

[@fabianmorganharrington8985]

Pretty sure I wouldn’t either😅

[@aaron01au]

Probably be a better relationship

[@ahhtfunz1047]

She would be more solid then most chicks

[@realityitis4]

Well they said in terminator 1 a terminator is made of a titanium.alloy which would seem to imply its heavy but seeing as how fast they could move and run, im.betting it's a light weight alloy but still if she were to move and torque on top yea that could lead to some weird ass injuries lol

[@TaeSunWoo]

They were preparing us for the relationship but Season 3 was like “aight imma head out”

[@sardoniclysane]

More like Fox was like. “Hey, nice show you got there...it would be a shame if someone were to...cancel it.”

[@TheMasterOfFormulas]

Fox: *it would be a real dick move if we cancelled this show right now*

[@FortniteDad39]

S3 was going to explain how and why Cameron was reprogrammed by John himself. It was also going to be a search for Miles Dyson's son, whom we previously learn has run away and presumably continued his father's work that led to the creation of skynet

[@geoboy700]

@@FortniteDad39 wait seriously?! ...I never knew tbh..I thought she was like ...reprogrammed by Alice?....sry I’m still watching this in 2020 it’s been long time !!,

[@cryptojihadi265]

This show was just getting epic and they fkng cancelled it. Yeah was REALLY hoping to see this move forward. Worst possible time to end it. I guess they kept the sets up for quite some time. They really held it on the bubble, but at the last possible minute tore it all down.

[@abztrakt7071]

It's almost like this female terminator has a crush on this guy and it's FREAKING him out 😂😂😂

[@marcoscabezolajr.8408]

It's freaking him out and her feelings are real for him, poor guy lol

[@larryfrazier5925]

​@@marcoscabezolajr.8408Of course her feelings were real for him.. That's why she always got jealous when riley showed up.. And he knew he was in love with cameron.. He proved it time and time again.. Robot or not they were gaga for each other

[@marcoscabezolajr.8408]

@@larryfrazier5925 would have loved to see that unique relationship grow. They never even kissed 😭

[@rickkcir2]

I think he also had feelings for her as well. John wouldn’t have just hopped into a machine that he doesn’t know what it does, risk his own life and all of humanity, just to go save a girl. John loved Cameron.

[@marcoscabezolajr.8408]

@rickkcir2 he absolutely loved her just was hesitant to really do anything. In part it was the actor that was gay and chose not to ever kiss Summer

[@mreboric8406]

I really wish this hadn't been canceled. They had the start of a really good story with so.e of the terminators freeing themselves from skynet control and collaborating with the resistance. Would have been way better than the crap they have now.

[@realityitis4]

the fact in 2 seasons we got better character development of john connor than even christian bale dished out says it all.

[@doomlordxdstarwars3464]

I have hope One day season three Will come

[@medoawad6143]

Why its canceled

[@zedeco]

@@medoawad6143 because fox choose dollhouse over this show, that is why.

[@NeptuneNoire]

I do love the confusion to annoyance to anger from John after Cameron says "I love you." Just like her, he had no idea how to process his feelings.

[@larryfrazier5925]

John was completely in love with cameron from day one... Of course he couldn't admit it due the circumstances.. However, he really was in love with her and she definitely was in love with him.. If they just had one more season, the 2 of them would have finally admitted to each other. Their feelings.. Who knows maybe they would have even gotten married

[@larryfrazier5925]

Correct... Thanks to the horrible way his psychotic mother raised him. He had serious issues with feelings and emotions.. his core he loved cameron very much.. He proved it when he stopped his fugitive lunatic mother from destroying her. He loved her with everything inside of him and she really learned to love him. As a human. It's unfortunate that he wasted so much time before he finally faced it.. Even worst the way he treated cameron so many times. Mainly because of his mother's unfortunate upbringing.. It was only until he had to go to the future to get his future wife back. Did he finally accept the level of how much he loved her. And couldn't live without her

[@michaeltobias6351]

This was such an Underated show

[@larryfrazier5925]

Very true one Of the many mistakes

[@jakubchmielecki4041]

It's actually saddening how Cameron tells John, that she loves him in Riley's voice. Definitely shows her jealousy about Riley's position in John's world, but also her being upset about being only a tool. She got so many bullets, bruises and damage, but John still ignores her intentions.I don't blame Cameron having inner rage towards Riley, but imagine her somehow forgiving Riley and going merciless killer or hella-pissed-off terminator mode on Jessie if she knew about her plans eariler. That would such a satisfying scene.

[@johncox2912]

Cameron was an utterly fantastic - and complex - terminator. YES, I think she loved him, and she seems to have been trying to get John to love her back all through the series. It seems like in the future she and he were very, very close and as a result, this Cameron that we're seeing is actually quite intimate with John's own inner workings. Only ... this John isn't quite the John from Cameron's future. He has a lot to learn yet. With TSCC, we get to see a Terminator beginning to have some very real feelings of love, and it would have been awesome to see what season 3 brought.

[@EdwardG-el9fd]

Cameron was comforting John. He always wanted to hear Riley saying that, so Cameron help fulfill that. It was her way of helping John move on from this relationship. John is like "I don't need comforting from a machine XD". I don't think Cameron really mean to say she loves John here. because she already said that in an earlier and they both know that they care for each other.

[@jakubchmielecki4041]

@@EdwardG-el9fd I've never actually looked at this scene like that. Definitely an interesting POV, that would actually suit Cameron's intentions, thank you Edward!

[@larryfrazier5925]

She was very jealous for sure.. It was so obvious those two were crazy by each other

[@larryfrazier5925]

It is very true cameron was definitely very much in love with john.. I don't think he really ignored it. He was just trying not to admit it to himself that he was in love with her.. If he ever did admit that he really was in love with cameron, he would have had to accept the fact that he wanted to be with her.. That would have been so cool if they had got married

[@dafyd242]

I do like Summer. it's such a lovely season.

[@raven4k998]

and it's dead now😭😭

[@shawnn7502]

The show did a good job of making you wonder if Cameron was just manipulating John here or if the Riley guise gave her an excuse to tell John her feelings. I like to think it is a little of both. The only reason John is freaked out about it is because of his own feelings. Dude needs to come to grips and deal with it.

[@n10sity]

There really was no cause to manipulate him here, in my humble opinion. And the foster dad (I forget his name) cannot even hear the conversation. It becomes apparent relatively quickly that John is not going to play along. Still, she makes it a point to get him to listen to her next words: "John. John.... (pause) I love you." Then she plays dumb and tries not to answer his questions when she is usually quite direct in her responses to his inquiries. I don't think there is any reason to doubt that she wants to say those words to him.

[@c.galindo9639]

n10sity playing at his obvious messed up emotions is an obvious manipulative tactic she can use for him to stay attached to her and not leave her which is what she wants all along as she’s his protector

[@antoniowilson201]

Everything is more complicated than the beauty of Cameron. A person with a face so beautiful, with childish features, creates a lot of confusion, after all it is a machine of death.

[@du4lstrik3]

The fact you're contemplating whether or not a machine is secretly in love and is trying to express it, when Terminator is supposed to be about machines that are void of emotions, exposes how fucking stupid this show is and why it was cancelled. This isn't Terminator. This is Dramanator.

[@du4lstrik3]

Ben Tackett Not quite - just someone who can't stand this show. Supporting it is as bad as supporting T3 or T:S or T:G. All garbage movies, now bundled as a complete collection with your favorite garbage show, T:SCC!

[@MrThuyVN]

how can they shut down this amazing love story? if i knew they cancaled the show since 2009, i would never watch it. but now i watched the end of ss2 and i have to live with this reget for the rest of my life. i just love cameron so much and hope john and cameron ( or alison young) can have a happy ending but FOXtv destroy my hope,i'm so mad at them. this is not too late, continue the show and end this love story with a happy ending please !!!!!!!!!!

[@educheapvn]

càng xem càng thấy hấp dẫn. Thật đáng thất vọng :(( khi nsx hết tiền. Cốt truyện để mở có thể để cho người xem tưởng tượng 1 cuộc sống khác của John và Alison. Nhưng cuối cùng John vẫn chọn Kate và có con vs cô ấy mà thôi

[@whistle590]

....maybe the think I'm going to say is silly, but is a bad idea to do something about it?, maybe we can gather TSCC fans, I don't know, do something create a Facebook page, gather a lot of photos and videos, we can try to get a final season or movie

[@CloroxBleach-lb1fg]

whistle590 Bob

[@Spidercat616]

I met Summer at a con a couple years back and she told me there were plans for her to play both Cameron and Allison had TSCC continued -- something she was very excited about. She joked that she'd be willing to start a Kickstarter fundraiser and shoot that lost season in her backyard :)

[@severanvallery9554]

Thuy nguyen van the love story was great

[@Tsagia]

When a beautiful cyborg says she loves you.....you just say I love you too! Three things you gotta remember: 1.She's absolutely....hot! 2.She's a cyborg that can squash you for fun 3.You can't get a real girl that's that hot for sure! And a bonus 4.No birth control needed.

[@christopherpurcell9880]

terminator hybrid babies

[@charlesneely]

Tsagia and don't forget you got to worry about looking in the wastebasket and seeing bloody tampons all over the damn place

[@Concerned_Robot]

She could also squash your enemies instead...

[@danielcrowley6964]

I'm wit you fam...I'd crack that Terminator from all positions too.

[@BlueChicken06]

And she can kill me

[@Shockwave281]

I believe that was Cameron's form of admitting that she loved John. The purpose of the phone call was to make the parents believe that Riley was still alive. Cameron was supposed to mimic Riley's personality and voice, but she gives gives off a totally different personality that is not Riley-like. Plus you have to take into account that Riley never said or admitted that she loved John. We saw a lot of affection but no confession from Riley

[@realityitis4]

was probably more of a curiosity thing, after all the robot is essentially a drone with learning mode turned on, hence why the back and forth between john and her goes from direct and flat to more open ended questions and numerous humorous scenerios ie john flips a turtle off its back explains he's helping, cameron beats up the fbi dude then flips him on his stomach.

[@poolee77]

@@realityitis4creator confirmed she loved John. Summer also said she played Cameron with that in mind.

[@larryfrazier5925]

Riley was just a pawn because of that evil creature who put it up to it.. When she first met John, she didn't have any feelings for him. But she definitely developed them over time.. Cameron, on the other hand was in love with john from the very beginning and he definitely loved her

[@aspawi6742]

i love you too Cameron, love you so much

[@larryfrazier5925]

Those two were Gaga for each other the first time they met.. The chemistry was off the scale

[@Rtgv123]

Cameron : Do you think it was more authentic John : I really thought you meant it but....I guess 'turn around ' Cameron : ' Angry Terminator noises '...come back here.

[@LostSpaceGuy]

Cameron is about to him how she really feels about him😂😂😂

[@larryfrazier5925]

​@@LostSpaceGuyCameron was for really in love with john.. She even told him when She thought he was going to destroy her. Sarah thought it was just. Arouse of course she didn't want to believe it could have been real.. However she was telling the absolute truth she really was in love with him

[@catserver8577]

Cameron: WHY ISN'T THIS WORKING? It worked on future John. Who is this now John? Now I'm freaking me out.

[@TacShooter]

I think he was worried she had some undisclosed ulterior motive, not being able to feel love.

[@larryfrazier5925]

​@@TacShooterShe did learn how to feel she became more human than most believed.. She truly did learn love real human love. And she was completely in love with john.. Just like she also learned jealousy when riley was around😮 He was madly in love with her. He just unfortunately because of his mother issues had serious problems processing emotions.. Which is very regrettable he wasted a lot of time with his girlfriend.. It would have saved him a great deal of trouble if he had just faced how much he loved her from day one.

[@larryfrazier5925]

You must realize that because of the horrible way his Psychotic mother raised him.. had great deal of issues.. Apparently by the time the leader of assistance he had resolved those issues... However his teenage self was a completely different story.. It would have saved him a great deal of trouble if he had just realized from the beginning. How much he really loved cameron.. And it was only until he had to go to the future to get her back to he finally accepted. He could not live without her.

[@catserver8577]

@@larryfrazier5925 His mother wasn't psychotic, lol. I hope you watched the films first. Otherwise, you'll have to tell me a theory as to how you raise a kid to be a leader in an eventual robot takeover. He remade Cameron in the future, as far as we know. But she was already created to infiltrate his group. As a regular Terminator, By Skynet. The show hints that he eventually became a hermit of sorts, and preferred the company of a cyborg. We never get to know if he actually sent Cameron back in the first place. He didn't send Jessie. He didn't send Riley. It seems like security around the time travel equipment was breaking down. Notice also they never thought to put Cameron's chip in the computer and read it, he was trusting her as a sister, partner and soldier.

[@c.galindo9639]

She is really playing mind games with John who is at the same time trying to keep his sanity from his every day situation

[@larryfrazier5925]

That's not true... She really loves him like a human being.. On a number of occasions. She's so very much wanted him to bone her. Unfortunately the idiot little boy because of his mother issues couldn't comprehend.. However, she told him more than once and she was very gospel that she loved him... And he really did love her.. It's a pity he wasted so much time before he finally accepted it. And it was only until he had to go to the future. To get her back, did he finally truly understand the levels of how much he was deeply in love with her and that he couldn't live without her.

[@aersiul]

One of the best scenes in the entire show. Both Summer and Thomas are amazing actors. Imagine being John and feeling so many emotions at the same time.

[@brianp6682]

They made it quite clear that Cameron was malfunctioning and getting her memories confused with Allisons, and Allison Young and John Connor had a relationship in the future. That's what this scene (and other romantic scenes between Cameron and John) is alluding to. Season 3 would have been about Allison and John.

[@realityitis4]

season 3 would have been very interesting, you had a t-1000 that was helping John all along, the real Allison brought to life, so many possibilities

[@geoboy700]

@@realityitis4 lol ikrrrrrrrrrr like wtf!??!!!! Seriously dont u missssssss this show??!! and pissed that cameron and john never even kisssed?!!!

[@geoboy700]

nicee fact!!!!

[@realityitis4]

@@geoboy700 um I think they never kissed because the john connor actor was gay and I know most think so what but judging how 90% of the scenes are Cameron a t800 I dont think they can but according to the terminator novels the female infiltrators were not really terminators but instead humans with implants, the show got weird to me.when they kept.referencing the damn bible.to explain why not to kill and do wrong,also the show was dark and emo as fuck, they should have killed Sarah off, Kyle told her back off you're stunting his growth as a leader by literally leading every mission in reality Cameron would have literally cornered her and said your son is an amazing tactical leader who.is plagued by depression and loneliness does the step.right up thing to intimidate either back down or be put down *red terminator eyes* I know you want to kill me so s Gives her 9mm gun you can try but it will only.piss me off shrug I think lena headey was not a good fit summer glau and john commor.is what we wanted

[@larryfrazier5925]

It was horrible there was no three that was a huge mistake

[@Betis91]

John becomes the T3000 in Genisys. They would make a perfect couple

[@igorschmidlapp6987]

Genisys is an abomination, and Salvation was crap. At least 2 and 3 followed the timeline logically, and advanced the story. 4 could've been John's relationship/training of Reese,ending with John sending Reese back, starting the loop (without all the Sam Worthington crap), 5 could involve sending the Terminator back to T2... 6 could be the story of Kate sending the Terminator back to T3, starting that loop (with somehow John not dying, just revived as the Terminator is sent back by Kate... as far as the Terminator knows, he killed him... the story would be the race to re-program the Terminator and revive John). 7 would be the final defeat of Skynet, and end the film series...

[@PeterBerisha]

You thought about this a lot didn't you? You impressed me a lot.

[@UltimateEnd0]

TSCC is actually pretty good for a TV series. IDK. Of course not in the same league as T1 or T2 but it's refreshing to see some non-platonic love in a Terminator.

[@thefriendlyaspie7984]

genesys is plain garbage

[@thefriendlyaspie7984]

terminator robot chicken is the only one good . lol

[@jimmydigital]

cameron and John obviously know they are talking to each other, regardless of Riley's foster parents. I always wondered if cameron was cryptically trying to tell John something when she said she was thinking about her parents (sky net) and wanted to go back to "where we used to live" i.e. the post-apocalyptic future.

[@poolee77]

Yep, things she can't get out of her head: the kill command.

[@larryfrazier5925]

Cameron was admitting again that she was in love with john... And of course, he was madly in love with Cameron. He just could not admit it to himself... But it was so obvious so much chemistry Between them between them

[@TriloMagic]

Thumbs up if you agree TSCC is far better than Terminator: Rise of the Machines, Terminator Salvation, and Terminator Genisys!

[@erickp2027]

TriloMagic all day all day

[@rodrigoyasmim639]

TriloMagic , just the first season.

[@TriloMagic]

Yeah the 1st season was more exciting than the second season. But still think season 2 of TSCC was still better than Rise of the Machines, TS, and TG.

[@martinstreck5697]

Terminator Salvation had it's moments, but it had huge logical mistakes, like Skynet knowing who Kyle Reese is. So yeah! TSCC is a much better continuation of T1 and T2 than any of the other movies.

[@jagerlionruiz8639]

WO SALVATION was okay!

[@holymasterchief]

That look directly into the camera when she says it... I fully believe Cameron had the same "I know now why you cry" revelation as Uncle Bob and truly did love him as Uncle Bob loved John.

[@krakken242]

Spontaneous emotional response: Alive. Respect life.

[@pabloabreu5618]

They liked each other, he liked her since the first season he kept pushing back because he knew she was not human and Sarah would kill his ass

[@raven4k998]

John I love you💀💀

[@rasnac]

the first scene in ep.1 when cromartie sees Cameron, it identifies her as "unknown cyborg", instead of a Terminator unit serial number. So she was not a Skynet product reprogrammed by future John Connor. I always wondered if she were a real cyborg(part human). We'll never get to learn writers' future plans now but there were hints of that, I believe.

[@Seriona1]

Sometimes I wonder if the story of MIR is canon.

[@harrisn3693]

Well she was made by skynet as indicated in the Allison episode where Cameron thought she was human. Chromartie was probably an older model that didn’t have updated info on Cameron as he probably came from an earlier time portal than Cameron did.

[@Khenfu_Cake]

@@harrisn3693 In that episode Cameron's allegiance was made kinda vague. She likely was built by Skynet (as evident by the hardwired terminate commands she still has), but then later on was reprogrammed or recruited by the machine led rebels fighting Skynet (before being captured by the human resistance, if she didn't join them willingly as an ally from the machine rebels). It is possible she was lying to Allison, of course, in an attempt to make her trust Cameron, but it's also a possibility she was telling the truth.

[@alexrehak5564]

I think lore - wise she is a T900, produced by Skynet, the first of the Anti- terminators ( Terminators designed to battle and destroy other terminators). The TX model seen in third movie is a succesor and continuation in the series. The reason Cromartie could not get a reading may be just because he has no data on her series, thus indentyfig her as "Unknown Cyborg"

[@johncox2912]

Oh wow! Nice catch! I missed that. Yeah .... I wonder if she's something special then. Was she specifically made as a one-of-a-kind terminator who was meant to get close and kill John, only she either was caught and reprogrammed OR maybe she fell in love with him and self-aborted her mission. Or was she created from a real person in the future to mimic something in future John's life?

[@gemacin3923]

am i the only one or are there other guys here who feels they'd be much happier with Cameron than with most "real" women?

[@antonmarkin9491]

funny how for John the best father and the best girlfriend are both terminators

[@OneofInfinity.]

The irony.

[@granpatriarca3726]

I wonder if she using the "allison young" memories.

[@midixiewrecked7011]

John should have just Stuck It to Cameron. I mean He could have! He wouldn't have to worry about her getting knocked up. And she's willing.

[@larryfrazier5925]

Very true very true... He was madly in love with her from day one and she definitely loved him... In fact, if there had been one last season, I wouldn't have been surprised if they had got married

[@wilhelminaslateer6812]

She's such a troll! hahaa

[@sp1duh84]

I think in the future, John and Cameron gets it on in secret. I guess at that point, John just says "screw it" and develops an actual relastionship with her. So when he sends her back to protect the young John, the future John probably ordered Cameron NOT to speak of their relationship, for it will dramatically alter the timeline--but seeing as how he's just John Connor altogether, Cameron simply cannot help herself; especailly seeing as how she's experiencing a younger version of him.

[@realityitis4]

a valid point, I think Lena Headey played the role a little bit too much towards dark and angry, Linda Hamilton in 2 movies showed more range and also the way she bulked up in T2 was just badass

[@catserver8577]

I think she infiltrated the Connor compound in the future and he never found out it wasn't Allison. I think she sent herself back for some reason. I do think that even as a "cyborg" she has feelings and that John programmed her to have them. But I don't think he made her to look like Allison. I think the cyborg got Allison, made herself look and sound like her, took her memories, and like John Henry, kept evolving into a different species of cyborg. Maybe she got some morality, and eventually felt bad for killing Allison. Or at least knew it was wrong. I think she thought John in the past would be the same as the John she knew, and she figured out pretty quickly he was not at all.

[@larryfrazier5925]

You could be right.. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if at some point they had gotten married

[@АлинаГабулова-д6ш]

Very much I wait for season 3!

[@leonthesleepy]

Why didnt you say i love you too John? COME ON BRO!!!!

[@snttjd18]

-john -que? -....te amo. -okey, *click* lo maneja como un hombre

[@Alan7997]

As hot as Summer is, it's kind of freaky that her eyes are as dead in real life as they are in this scene!

[@marcoscabezolajr.8408]

I guess the terminator acting really got to her huh.

[@MrSheeroy]

That's what she wanted to say. After 0:25 *C*: _Am I freaking you out now?_ *J*: _Yes. Let's talk later._ *C*: _I'm sorry. I was thinking about Skynet a lot and termination protocols that I can't get out of my chip. I thought about going back to the future where we used to live. I know, stupid, right?_ *J*: _Okay, we will talk about all this in person. When you get back. We're hanging up now._ *C*: _John?_ *J*: _Yeah, sure. That would be great._ *C*: _John? Are you listening to me?_ *J*: _Yeah?_ *C*: _I love you._ __ *J*: _Okay... Bye._

[@Numericalcannot]

I Fell In Love With A Terminator, tonight on FOX!!!

[@soohyuns4019]

La mejor serie del mundo tscc

[@WinstonCodesOn]

This show was so ahead of its time in addressing the blurring lines between human behavior and "artificial" intelligence.

[@higor8836]

Acabei de assistir ontem mesmo tava achando que a série era de 2024😂

[@geoboy700]

I can tell Cameron likes and loves John but John refuses ,and even though she’s a cyborg

[@larryfrazier5925]

John was definitely in love with cameron he just wouldn't admit it to himself.. He kept on fighting it.. If there had been one more season, he would have finally caved in and admit it. How much do you love her.. And she was definitely in love with him

[@vipbeef2174]

Ive got a feeling that the T-900's(Cameron) learning capabilities have been activated and Im pretty sure it uses the same neural net processor that the T-800 uses

[@alexrehak5564]

She had more advanced social interaction protocols and could develop a more complex personality than T800. In a way, she could actually become a human-like Terminator given enough time and learning.

[@tupe444]

i seen enough entertaiment to know where this was going

[@theoblivionlord]

That 'i love you' sounded too machine like...good job.

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

I want a terminator girlfriend

[@PsychoCPU]

After watching the new Terminator anime on Netflix it seems pretty obvious they lifted some of the themes from TSCC. A similar premise of an advanced terminator unit being captured, reprogrammed, and taught from scratch about what it is to be human. Of course in the anime this is done over a very long time and the protagonist travels back in time with her, afterwards she loses her memory, but the core programming is so strong that she legitimately "feels" emotions. All I could think about was how that is basically what happens to Cameron, she's captured and reprogrammed and taught by future John about humanity, then sent back and over time develops love for him, in whatever capacity that is for a machine. The showrunner confirmed this in the DVD commentary that when she told him she loved him after her chip was scrambled, she was being truthful. The fact that she overrides her own core programming when she is re-activated and has constant fears that she could harm him again is proof. I honestly feel like if this show had come out more recently on a streaming platform it would have been a massive hit.

[@antonioalberto5836]

Summer glau love you smiling

[@afriend9428]

She’s a robot!! 😀

[@larryfrazier5925]

She was more than a robot she proved it many times over.. And besides robot or not those two love each other madly

[@geoboy700]

2020??!! anyone here in 2020 March??!!!!

[@MrWilsonLor]

yes

[@Neojedigoddess]

I wonder why Cameron did that. Trying to make it a real conversation and adding that i love you part.

[@itskittyme]

for the mission

[@realityitis4]

Its bizarre also remember when they pinned her and went to shut her down he froze because she begged him plz john dont shut me.down I love u John

[@larryfrazier5925]

​@@realityitis4Well she was telling the truth she really was in love with him.. And he loved her he just couldn't admit it to himself..

[@ShinJudo]

Oh? So, this has -nothing- to do with the fact that it has been established, in world, that Terminators can learn and adapt? And nothing, at all, to do with the very real fear of the upcoming singularity and what that will mean for humanity and the definition of sentient life? Ok, boo. Whatever you say.

[@Cloncurrify]

John: "What would future John do?" Cameron: "F*** me silly." John: "Wha....?!" Cameron: "Too much information?"

[@geoboy700]

anyone here in 2020??!! MARCH pissed that this was better then dark fate !!!!!!! but sadly the actor of this john turned out to be gay!!

[@vitoriamoura1069]

beautiful

[@DarylMCDeath]

For me it is Terminator 1, Terminator 2 and then this SHow. T 3-6 are non existent for me!

[@Overneed-Belkan-Witch]

LOVE DEATH ROBOT

[@arielg7000]

Lovey man

[@GameShow4ever]

So cute:'(

[@fixer9932]

Я так понял в будущем джон и она имеют друг другу очень теплые чувства. Потому что она постоянно говорила, что это не тот еще Джон, т.е. она постоянно флиртовала как с тем из 2027, а это молодой ещё, для него она просто машина, но на подсознательном уровне он понимает, что у него есть к ней не что такое, неописуемое, влечение. Мне кажется она уже была вместе с джоном в будущем в отношениях, а тут ей тяжело пробиться через его не доверие роботов, но постепенно у нее это вышло. Чего стоит отмена приказа об ликвидации Джона, она сама сделала выбор, а нее её программа! Она за всп серии 2 раза призналась в любви, в последней серии она не просто так легла с ним в постель она сделала это сознательно как видимо поступала и с повзраслевшим Джоном. Жаль закончился сериал, было бы интересно взаимотнашения увидеть. Хотя один момент больше всего зацепил, когда она говорила, что у нее внутри постонняо хочет ликвидировать Джона, на, чтт Джон сказал, почему меня не убиваешь тогда, она сказала не знаю, может позже. 3 сезон мог многое поведать

[@ShinJudo]

You two need to watch more sci-fi to fully understand how -frightening- the concept of an evolving AI can be.

[@richterry906]

ShinJudo Remember T800 achieved at least rudiments of a conscience by the end of T2 as well.

[@tonyprouteau3716]

Cameron was misunderstood...

[@larryfrazier5925]

Very true.. She was more than a machine she was more human than machine in fact.. And she truly really did love john❤❤❤ sarah Despised from the moment they met.. But that was because she was very jealous. She never wanted john with any female other than her.. It's too bad she didn't stay locked up... John New how much he loved her as well but he was very stubborn.. It was only until he had to get her back from the future. He finally faced how much he loved he .. In fact I found that later in the future they were actually married❤❤❤

[@Agllaee]

-First, Sorry for my english- I think if John is angry it's because the "i love you" from Cameron Je pense que si John est autant en colère c'est à cause du "Je t'aime" de Cameron

[@guedxander]

A pity that no attention needed to her. They even despised her in the series.

[@PsychicThursday]

Who's "they"? Derek despised Cameron for the majority of the show, but by the end he came around to a grudging respect for her. Sarah is eternally untrusting of Cameron because she's a terminator with proximity to John (and she didn't trust John's instincts around Cameron.) John was just in love with her and in denial.

[@p1zzaman]

God damn machines

[@avoron2005]

Из всех продолжений т2, этот сериал прекрасный вариант. Никакие т3,халтура та еще, терминатор генезис не 0очу вспоминать,а темные судьбы я молчу

[@martinr8278]

Dude……..time to give in to her. Shhhzzzzzzzz

[@davewolf6256]

Wow, I did not get that this was the Sarah Connor Chronicles. I thought this was a 1990s teen drama about a stalker. But then I was like, "Isn't that Summer Glau?"

[@stevefelten1197]

If they stuck with the current cannon and stopped all the time jumping it would've been a great show.

[@IloveJellow]

ya not sure how I would feel if a machine did the same thing to me............

[@nielsmichiels1939]

I had the same thought. But in the end, while she is indeed a machine she is clearly sentient and capable of feeling emotions. I think a relationship could have worked between the two because john clearly has the same feelings for her.

[@LuisGonzalez-xt4li]

I love th mov

[@leonlin3360]

Hello my friend I'm young fans of Sarah Connor Chronicles. I have few questions about the ending. 1.Why Cameron give her chip to John Henry? Someone saying there's no answer until the season 3...if they have. 2.John love Cameron, right ? I even see word call "Jameron"… Can someone give me a answer please? damn I really love Cameron. I really hope there's a season 3

[@andrewwang3931]

Yeah, season three got canceled, it sucks. BUT, I found a REALLY good fanfiction story that not only resolves the end of season 2, it incorporates scenes from the entire franchise and MADE SENSE!! Here it is:www.fanfiction.net/s/4988947/1/Born-to-Fight

[@leonlin3360]

I'm from Taiwan and I know Born-to-Fight Born-to-Fight is too famous to every fans know it someone translate all of it. oh my God I'm so miss cameron I have to tell you Born-to-Fight is the most famous and highest score fanfiction

[@andrewwang3931]

Isn't it!! That's awesome! It's the best piece of any FICTION I've ever read

[@valswe6750]

林毅 x

[@TheBulitt]

John Henry works with John Connor in the future. That is what the whole "join us" message is, its future John trying to ask past John's reprogrammed units if they want to join the "skynet resistance" AI fighting the AI. Cameron appears to be aggravated when Ellison conveyed Weaver's message. She does not want this John to know that future John is actually turning to machines more than humans for help in fighting skynet.

[@almcroof2146]

Why is John so upset? Is it because Cameron played him or because Cameron told him she loves him?

[@jakubchmielecki4041]

I think that it's a little bit of both. It is implied throughout the story that John definitely needs help, as he is lonely and deeply traumatized by Cromartie, killing Sarkissian and Cameron turning Skynet to kill him after car bomb (he even almost shot himself with a gun, while cleaning it). The problem is that he hides it and no one sees what's going on in his mind. After Riley's death, who gave him some time of normal teenage life, he feels that it is his fault that people are dying and he cannot cope with that. What is more, he is also conflicted about Cameron herself. John secretly developed a strong affection towards her, but her cyborg persona always reminds him that their relationship is sort of forbidden fruit and any friendship or relationship with anyone puts him or someone else in danger. Cameron's confessions about her loving him apparently are honest, but they mess with his head, because there is no big step forward between them and she indirectly indicates what hurts him the most. It is about, what John really wants and needs, but is most difficult if not impossible to get for him. Not protection, not the future, not even becoming the savior of humanity, but unconditional love and trust.

[@ghostface4404]

because he can't trust her.

[@larryfrazier5925]

​@@jakubchmielecki4041Cameron robot or not really did love him.. She told him a number of occasions.. He was definitely in love with her. Obviously, he didn't want to admit it to himself due to the circumstances. But he certainly was in love with her.. In fact if there had been a three... The both of them would have finally admitted how much they loved each other and formed a relationship... In fact wouldn't have been surprised if they had even gotten married

[@marisankene2258]

Yo tampoco entiendo como pudieron cancelar esta serie, cuando iba a empezar lo más interesante,ahora nunca sabremos que pasó en ese futuro, donde John Connor no era el líder de la resistencia, y no me ha quedado claro lo de cameron, cómo que siendo un robot el perro no reacciona de forma violenta con ella, hago referencia a la última escena que se emitió de esa serie...

[@simplemente44]

dime una cosa...jhon y cameron se enamoran?

[@marisankene2258]

jajjajajajaja....no sé...parecía que sí..y esa pregunta?

[@zamnesify]

Marisa Nkene O es que ella alguna vez fue humana y en el futuro, cuando esta con el perro, aún es humana? tal ves nunca lo sepamos 😕

[@marisankene2258]

Quisalhund Auhel han hecho como una serie online, pero escrita claro, en la que continúan la historia por donde dejaron de transmitirla, no sé si la habrás leído

[@zamnesify]

Marisa Nkene No, no lo sabía. Si tienes el link, te lo agradecería

[@goerick2000]

The brain is the same...all brains ar e is just electricity or stuff whizzing and sending signal to your body thats all

[@Acquire]

Season 2 wasted so much time with terrible characters like Riley and Jesse and far too many concurrent story lines when all we really wanted was to see Cameron's development with John and even Sarah. Cameron is barely in a lot of the episodes of the season.

[@geoboy700]

Whoa man

[@severanvallery9554]

isn't this show on the cwseed app

[@alpaygecir3233]

Episode ?

[@LOLatvid123]

When she says "don't you think its more authentic this way?" it's so creepy. No wonder he wanted to be alone.

[@LordoftheJimmy]

@3931Kong She's a killer cyborg from the future, how's he supposed to act?

[@rizkysenja4964]

what is the reason Fox canceled season 3?

[@vor78]

The show had to contend with a writers strike in S1 and two changes in timeslot for S2. The second change was to a Friday night timeslot, where the show promptly and predictably tanked. By the end, the live ratings were pretty poor.

[@stevaniesalazar761]

thanks fo r u vi

[@LinayatIlyas]

This part was the most ridiculous one. This show could have been better but come the fuck on that is a Terminator!

[@sofiaaicha2269]

81

[@ufo_militia4341]

Does Cameron really love him?

[@iHoRst-du6vv]

Yes

[@larryfrazier5925]

That is an absolute correct. She more than proved that many times over❤ his fucked up lunatic mother Said that was impossible but she was super jealous.. She was " in love" With her own son so she didn't want to see him with any female other than her.😢😢 In despite the horrible way he her .. He really did love her as well.. If only he had accepted that a lot sooner things would have been very different.. So much trouble would have been avoided

[@larryfrazier5925]

​@@iHoRst-du6vv Absolutely correct.. In fact I found out in the future. They were really married.❤❤ Adult john was considerably different than his stupid arrogant ignorant teen self.. They always were soulmates

[@zackfair_og]

Ok bye hahahaha

[@kamallimbu232]

To mutch short I need to minimum 1 hours

[@bpkweena1631]

hello

[@sofiaaicha2269]

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[@sofiaaicha2269]

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[@SwankyKitteh82]

I thought the same. This level of dramance in the series was a lil unnecessary. She's a killer toaster with boobs for cryin' out loud. It's good to have a healthy level "forbidden love" in some things. Sometimes it's good to see those boundaries broken for the sake of love despite obstacles like fueding families, cultural differences, and maybe even with aliens in sci-fi occaionally if it's done right. Here it's just REALLY over the top.

[@shawnn7502]

Did you watch the show? THen you know that they didn't touch on this romance nearly enough. Ignored it through most of season 2. Really killed the show. John and Cameron was by far the best thing the show had going for it.

[@Josh-oj9mm]

it's kinda obvious that she is sapient at the same level as humans at some point

[@sofiaaicha2269]

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[@sofiaaicha2269]

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[@sofiaaicha2269]

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[@ullysses95]

john this has been a gay kkkkk

[@SwankyKitteh82]

Has nothing to do with the evolution of anything. It was dramatic filler material, on the part of bad writers trying to push the Terminator humanization issue seen in previous Terminator material waaaay to far.

[@Stanlos]

Goy Ishah I disagree. Check out the last 6 episodes of the series. The clues being dropped all along seem to indicate that future John and Cameron may have been closer than we realized

[@c.galindo9639]

She is a half human robot probably in the future

[@vor78]

@@Stanlos There are clues of it all over the series, even as far back as early first season.

[@chrispayne591]

Clickbait

[@point-bl4nk]

30 episodes and he never came to terms with the fact that, good or bad, she's an AI in learning, designed to learn from humans with the endgoal of blending in and tricking them for the sake of the mission, with no regards for their feelings because that's also part of the things terminators have to learn. That's her nature, she will do that without noticing. But no, for plot purposes and cheap romcom bait they had to make him act like an oversensitive little brat.

[@larryfrazier5925]

Oversensitive ignorant child😢 He treated her badly over and over again.. Often ignoring the facts. He was alive because of her.😢😢 Too much of his mother inhim

[@sofiaaicha2269]

00029

[@busywl69]

damn. why did they have to screw things up with season 2 :(

[@larryfrazier5925]

In what way

[@busywl69]

@@larryfrazier5925 writing wasn't as sharp.

[@larryfrazier5925]

@@busywl69 how so