John Mearsheimer: How powerful is the Israel lobby?

[@paulbo9033]

So powerful the the US is literally prepared to act against it's own foreign policy interests and the President would rather risk losing an election than criticise it. Absolutely extraordinary. Before this, i didnt realise just how much of a problem this Lobby was.

[@DelsinM]

Oh he definitely would risk losing the election if he criticized Israel the way he should (and stopped funding them!).

[@ggdaddy6676]

If Mearsheimer is right, the US is not a sovereign nation when it comes to anything AIPAC wants. Of course, the same is true when it comes to anything big banks, big business, and billionaires want. So tell me how our campaign finance system is anything but a complete negation of democracy.

[@sarahg2653]

We've been support ing Israel to our detriment since it's inception. Do you know what the first thing Colin Powell told GW Bush after the terror attacks on 9/11? He told Bush that we need a two-state solution in Palestine. Why? Bc he was well aware of the blowback that our support for Israel causes. And Bin Laden said as much in his letter to America (among other things, ofc.) Now, you don't have to take Bin Laden's word for it as he isn't a reliable narrator, I get that. But Colin Powell was a smart man. He may have lied us into the subsequent invasions, but he knew that the core of hatred for the US stems from a.) our foreign policy in middle east and b.) Our support for Israel, which is WHY we have pursued such foreign policy. Netanyahu, for decades, has wanted the US to take out Iraq. And Syria. And Libya (I think, don't quote me on that one.) And Iran. He testified in front of Congress urging the US to overthrow these countries. And guess what? We've done 3 of the 4 (or tried to in Syria.) Only a matter of time before Israel gets us into WW3 with Iran. They will invade Lebanon after Rafah, imo, and it's off to the races after that, as the entangling alliances in the Middle East join forces to stop Israel and the West

[@sarahg2653]

Sorry for the novel haha

[@mischevious]

@@sarahg2653I agree with your assessment of what’s next. Just add that Turkey is inconspicuously buying land and surrounding them. And if I understood what was said, Russia hinted at taking action in their ICJ presentation on the occupation.

[@forensicdar]

I cannot believe there aren't more likes, followsrs, and comments. Thank you all for continuing to speak TRUTH TO POWER. And we will continue to bear witness to what we see in Palestine.

[@punapeter]

It's just that people don't KNOW there are good alt news sites.

[@elisemartins4368]

U d better believe it ! No ONE cars and everyone too busy injecting Botox !😮

[@owebeejaun]

You do not really have a comment...other to admonition others for not having one...thx for your input

[@punapeter]

@@owebeejaun and your's was what?

[@forensicdar]

@owebeejaun I really was only stunned that such incredible work has so far at that point that night been was lower than what I expected. Normally, I'd go off on why you, whoever you are choosing to be less than kind online instead of a force for good. But I have to bear witness now and this is all the time spare.

[@TonyMidyett]

If you are not allowed to criticize someone, then they are your master.

[@tagcoriolis1029]

Have you noticed three things Kennedy and Reagan had in common? They where both Irish, both defied the Israel Lobby and both were shot.

[@donhuntsberger9153]

Excellent program, clarifying the core issues of the current Israeli state genocide, aided and abetted by my Country 🇺🇲, which is just an example to its past programs and actions. Thank you all for your work on informing those that care about humanity and the Rights we all seek for ourselves and others.

[@ricklee4515]

John Mearsheimer is a beacon of truth coupled with detailed analysis of current events.

[@TonyNaber]

no he's not, he lied by omission on numerous occasions throughout this and everything he said was framed from Washington's collective POV, not a single original thought. He referred to backlash to invasion and occupation as "nationalism", first time i thought it was poor wording but he doubled down. No, that is just resistance and anti-imperialism, it's just a constant reality that's why it manifests as what he calls "nationlism" (something I would describe the MAGA movement as, not teenagers in flip flops in an open-air prison)

[@Threeangels1976]

​@@TonyNaberhe is j** & Z**n1xst. What did u expect?

[@snizami]

I really want him to be asked how he thinks he managed to survive the lobby's wrath given he didn't just highlight their influence in some blurb buried deep in some book, but cowrote a book explicitly on the subject.

[@jimturpin6503]

Professor Mearsheimer is also a loyal American that cares for his country and is trying to prevent a catastrophe.

[@gmw3083]

​@@jimturpin6503That's the root of his issues. Blind patriotism or nationalism. He still believes in the shining city on the hill. It never existed.

[@salmaattari1912]

Thank you professor John Mearsheimer for articulating my feelings about the Israel Lobby

[@boiledbread9937]

It's always a pleasure to hear, Professor Mearsheimer. His understanding of the world order is insightful.

[@knossos574]

Lenin defined five fundamental features of imperialism: the concentration of production and capital into monopolies. the merging of banking with industrial capital, and the creation, on this basis, of ‘finance capital’. the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities. the formation of international capitalist associations which share the world among themselves. the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers

[@DOPEDOGTOPDOG]

typical jewish pseudo intellectualism : the only reason he is famous is because he is a gatekeeper / controled opposition : really basic obvious suff ....

[@mollieholiday3379]

Excellent insight. In London, 1984, I was told that 'the relationship between America and Israel is that of the tail wagging the dog." I resented this, but came to realize that it was true. It's still true. Let's break free and become a nation of its own self-determination.

[@Elizadoolittle1948]

Have followed Prof Mearsheimer for a good few years now and he is unbeatable in his delivery of the facts and context of all the major geopolitical events of modern times. A gentleman, it would seem, to me anyway. I could listen to him all day.

[@ganboonmeng5370]

He is American..and have no doubt where he stand in the US..China...contest...but unlike the bullshit politicians...he is brutally honest..as to the reason USA is...brutally attacking China in a new cold war...😂

[@MagnusGalactusOG]

Chinese propaganda.

[@bogdanpopescu1401]

@@MagnusGalactusOG braindead

[@ramishoula4949]

May Allah Almighty Subhanahu w Ta'ala Bless you Lizzie Insha'Allah 🕊️🤍🕊️

[@DOPEDOGTOPDOG]

typical jewish pseudo intellectualism : the only reason he is famous is because he is a gatekeeper / controled opposition : he is still working for zionism : he is just managing perceptions on our side .

[@michaelolabisiraheem4703]

Whenever I see this Professor emeritus talking it always thrills me. Their will always something to gain from his abundance of his knowledge. He was the first to predicted this Ukraine calamity. Thank you Prof!

[@BIBIWCICC]

The UK main parties have just had their first warning that the public will not allow Israel to run our politics.

[@DelsinM]

We will see; I hope so.

[@rothwellaudio]

I fear our (UK) politicians are sleep-walking into the same scenario as US politics, ie controlled by Israel. I hope they wake up before it's too late. One party leader has already been overthrown.. The idea that Jeremy Corbyn is antisemitic is ridiculous, yet that narrative was used successfully to oust him. Shocking.

[@70AD-user45]

Congratulations to George Galloway MP, the Palestinian defender who won the by-election. The UK Zionist establishment have been warned that the nation will not tolerate the genocide of the indigenous population of Palestine.

[@AlexDrastico380]

But it is already running your politics. And for a long time now. How do you plan to stop them?

[@NavM23]

AIPAC and co can't survive an honest conversation; that is literally what would destroy them an alternative narrative So as long as a real conversation is ignored the lobby groups will remain unaccountable

[@HOGH22]

AIPAC must be registered as a foreign lobby agency!

[@jeanfischer1261]

Exactly!!

[@paulaheady8990]

They have outright refused to register and comply with US law and the entire US government has done zip about it

[@marthaworc7873]

How tricky would that be to do? What would be involved in making AIPAC a foreign lobby agency?

[@ValerieLyseight]

A terrorist organization you mean.

[@punapeter]

Needs to be BANNED from D.C.

[@Thelooneylink]

We are fortunate to have John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Saks

[@MH-dy5pb]

Jeffrey Sachs should be in prison for what he did to Russia

[@philipangelo595]

I think Mearsheimer's brilliance is based on the fact that his school of realism is based on understanding human nature. As an historian he can recite how power determines what happens.

[@ControlledDemolition]

The $29 million dollar man! Thank you, John Mearsheimer, for your great life's work. This is the last year for Israel.

[@heinzriemann3213]

Amen

[@QUANTUM508]

​@@heinzriemann3213Hopefully it won't be the last year for the world.

[@heinzriemann3213]

@@QUANTUM508 If someone could provoke it, it's the little hat men.

[@christianmccann9400]

Greetings from Ireland .. BDS apartheid Israel .. Free Palestine!

[@punapeter]

The land my ancestors fled 14 generations ago, Love your speakers ripping up the Eu parlament.

[@seanomaille8157]

"They think that they have pacified Ireland (Palestine). They think that they have purchased half of us and intimidated the other half. They think that they have foreseen everything, think that they have provided against everything; But the FOOLS, the FOOLS, the FOOLS! - they have left us our Fenian (Children) dead, and while Ireland (Palestine) holds these graves, Ireland (Palestine) unfree shall never be at peace." (Padraig Mac Piarais, August 1915 (6 years later most of Irish territory was freed of colonial rule, and the north east is going the same way in the next few years)).

[@HH-qk2or]

My love goes out to the Irish. Victims of Imperialism who have always been supportive of people’s right to self determination and human rights throughout the world.

[@tonyscott1658]

Ah yes, that ugly Irish antisemitism again, even though Jews have never caused any harm to the Irish. I suppose you're a fan of nut cases like Clare Daly and Richard Boyd Barrett.

[@culture88]

@@HH-qk2orthat’s not true. The Irish that came to the USA have a historical and ongoing oppressive relationship towards Africans in America.

[@MarioLorenzo]

I'm in the process of reading Mearsheimer's book "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy." It's an incredibly dense book, crammed with arguments and information critical to understanding the crisis up until 2007 when the book was published, but still pertinent and relevant to the crisis in Palestine today. I highly suggest reading this book.

[@punapeter]

It's a ROGUE Nuclear state.

[@miskakerdez3750]

I will have to reread it. I read it when it came out and thought it was valuable. Time for a refresher.

[@JerrySeriatos]

So you are an anti semite

[@Mzale]

Thanks you all for your part in educating the world..

[@punapeter]

for all those "poorly educated" redblue voters

[@rezakarampour6286]

' The Israel Lobby's Power Over Congress : Both Parties Obey . '

[@theycontroltheleftandtheri3705]

That's true.

[@pamelafranklin3452]

THEY GIVE THEM MONEY THEY BEEN BOUGHT

[@marshadingle3550]

I found out about Electronic Intifada because Mearsheimer mentioned it in a lecture years ago - so this is great.

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

Saying US is not corrupt is like saying biden can run up the stairs without stumbling.

[@deanmcinerney2324]

So you think the Republicans are good?

[@jeffberlin4179]

Corruption is legalized in America, for our rulers, corporations and Oligarchs. Oh and never forget the Banker's.

[@ktchong5800]

Based on what we have witnessed in the past two decades, the US is way beyond "corrupt". The US is actually EVIL, and it is really not just "it's the government! it's nothing to do with the American people!" Um, not really.

[@punapeter]

AH HA! You're a TRUMPTARD, figures.

[@nerag7459]

Saying the US is not corrupt is like Trump agreeing with Putin that Biden should be president.

[@truth_unity]

Very thought provoking. John Mearsheimer is brilliant!

[@OBrandt-i5c]

I have been following Prof.Meirsheimer for a while, and today, I bought 5 of his books.....cannot wait for them to arrive !

[@stuartwilliams-fw4vo]

The brilliance of Mearsheimer!

[@Hexanitrobenzene]

Great interview. Especially Mearsheimer's answer about the power of nationalism and "building democracy at the end of the rifle barrel".

[@JeanineH]

Agreed!!!!

[@homapirzadeh3930]

Thank you Ali and Nora for providing this wonderful opportunity! Amazing 🙏👍👏

[@RedCloudBlackSky]

This Israel Lobby is incredibly well funded. It uses the U.S. 2 billion dollar aid every year, the largest in all of aid combined all over the world. Who pushes for this Aid? The Lobby. This is how Israel controls U.S. politics and U.S. in general right now.

[@mndeg]

free money from the fed

[@thegoodpimps]

America is governed by its own racial and religious prejudices.

[@tiahenry4743]

@@mndeg Owned by the Rothschild zionists who created AIPAC and the synagogue of satan.

[@patrickvanmeter2922]

Thank you for having a guest that demands our attention. Agree or not, Professor Mearsheimer is a voice that needs to be heard. Would the US behavior without AIPAC lobby be the same? I think not. Subscribed and liked.

[@fellowcitizen]

Very stimulating conversation

[@justatiger6268]

Extremely happy to see prof. Mearsheimer on EI. Both are truly amazing.

[@outrageousgardener]

What about the oil and gas beneath Gaza? I believe the US is complicit in order to complete control over these resources with Israel as the performer committing the genocide. These resources have already been licensed for exploration to a few European nations since last summer and more in late October, 2023. (See Intercept from June, 2023; UN reports on Palestinian resources.)

[@jake751]

Yes and trumps son in law jared kushner is complicit too. He said out loud he'd like the gaza beach to be a real estate of hotels and the potential is there 😢😢. That's why America must not vote trump or Biden. They need to vote independent.

[@jake751]

​@lornanotaras2026😡😡😡 how much more money do the greedy gits want? They are billionaires ffs.

[@MIKEMIKE-te2dt]

Thanks this opportunity to hear from John Mearsheimer.

[@qasimsultan6913]

Brilliant interview Always a pleasure listening to Professor Mearsheimer!

[@humanitarianly]

We were told off tonight by Rishi. You cannot criticise Israel. You can but you have to be careful. We protect them more than we do ourselves I feel at times.

[@jake751]

😂😂😂 rishi sunak our unelected prime minister 😂😂

[@dalchurb]

This is a must listen to discussion for anyone that wants more than just primary knowledge of current aparthied oppression.

[@punapeter]

or for someone who's living in a cave? What was said that you didn't already know. This is a repeat. The same conversation is had by every alt channel he goes on. Judge Nap, useful idiots, Gray Zone, etc. etc.

[@deadmanprodinc]

Thank you John Mearsheimer and Electronic Intifada for this wonderful exchange. Interesting how citizens, governments and lobbyists interact between each other and the strategies towards garnering or thwarting control. Something also very interesting today was the explanation how Morale compass (logic) and Strategic logic affect how governments (and citizens) make decisions. Where realist decisions are often disappointing because they cross our lines of morality. Anyway, your online productions I find very to be very open, frank and educational and for me adding more and more puzzles pieces getting me closer to seeing what is before me. What a pleasure to participate in discussions without all the the sensationalism!

[@DonalLeader]

«Israël is a strategic liability for the US ». Wow! That’s a shocker! What would Douglas Murray think of that!!

[@thegoodpimps]

Douglas Murrary is an Islamicphobic grifter, he's found a schtick as a Gay Conservative and he has no values beyond making money and defending himself because he offers no actual value.

[@jacobsell9842]

It was the best description of political realism I've heard yet.

[@WorkingMan234]

Brilliant questions, Ali!

[@mmaximk]

Great conversation, thank you all very much.

[@buster195317]

As a North American Jew I am ashamed at what Israel is doing and has been doing for decades. It is painful to stand up to the truth of genocide and apartied.

[@elizabethsheppard-x9j]

I understand your feelings..My Grandmother survived WW2 she went to her beloved Israel Then returned to London with a broken heart she could not accept the behaviour of the Israeli Zionist Government and people .She said she did not survive Hitler to watch her own people do the same to another people...😢

[@JeanineH]

💜

[@thetruth476]

Powerful enough to embolden Israel to laugh at international law and enjoy impunity for many decades

[@kernboucher436]

Appreciate you guys..love from South Africa 🇿🇦

[@dLehman]

Very cogent and insightful analysis from Mearsheimer

[@bouchtaab8281]

What a delight to see an interview of Professor Mearsheimer on this channel where journalism is practiced in a highly professional and ethical way

[@gdbutler88]

He is on point in the things he said, i liked listening to him and will follow

[@anthenehbeze.]

Was wonderful Interview. Keep Up the Good Job.

[@melchoraslez1689]

Please have him on again in future shows! His perspective was very interesting

[@ResetToZero3210]

Excellent discussion. I really appreciate. Very informative and intellectually rich.

[@ast.iko94370]

Always a pleasure to listen to Pr Mearsheimer, always so articulate and knowledgeable. Thank you for providing this kind of discussions

[@bittasi1139]

Thanks for speaking the truth.

[@robertcrane6237]

I condemn joe biden

[@jeanfischer1261]

Condemn members of the Israel lobby whoever they are

[@bgs03548]

At least he isn’t a dictator like your preference. I wouldn’t vote for either of them.

[@punapeter]

too bad you don't matter

[@punapeter]

. vote green@@bgs03548

[@napoleonlaguerre5587]

say the system

[@galaxytrio]

Good conversation. I particularly appreciated Ali's questions.

[@zoltanbarath7371]

I am curious until the US send 3.8 bn to Israel annually and Israel sends back a few hundred millions to buy up politicians the power of the lobby can be broken? Also until organizations are allowed to provide any funds, not to mention millions to politicians it can not be thwarted. Maybe there is a need to limit donations only to natural private persons and even that should be limited to say, 500 or 1,000 dollars by one person.

[@katiekane5247]

Citizens United makes corporate donations the same as private. It needs to be overturned.

[@punapeter]

It's a ROGUE Nuclear state.

[@michelseymour7401]

Mearsheimer is right on most issues. But his argument concerning the Israel lobby is that the political elites have to comply with what the lobby wants if they hope to be reelected. But the reaction of young democrats against the "Genocide-Joe" is also powerful and Biden won't be reelected if he complies with the lobby.

[@DePeaceHunter]

Yeah I dont believe its only about reelection

[@T.S.1020]

You are absolutely correct on this point. unless the lobby starts to openly rig the elections here in the US, the young people would make a big difference in the politics. Thus the tremandous focus on controlling the social media on the lines of US media. Anyone active on social media can witness the changes underway regarding who can be criticized and to what extent. Purge on the social media s already Underway.

[@jeanfischer1261]

If the politicians dont comply with the lobby, the mossad might go after them

[@punapeter]

wishful thinking, a lot of young people are trumptards and look at all the negative news on him, REDBLUE have the power, doesn't matter which puppet wins. They are BOTH ZIONIST

[@vmoses1979]

Mearsheimer is right in the sense that money matters more in US elections than a committed voting block that is disdained by the media - Arab Americans, young people etc. If I'm a would be senator who needs to raise tens of millions to launch a political campaign - getting on the good side of the lobby is much more important than an angry minority of voters. This time due to an unprecedented livestreamed genocide there may be a good opportunity to remove Biden who is unpopular for a number of reasons.

[@bellatrixm1052]

This channel is criminally underrated.

[@comingviking]

It is not exactly promoted...

[@JeanineH]

100% agreed

[@shan6938]

It is an amazing interview with Professor John Mearsheimer xx Thank you xxx

[@dadaimiza]

So don’t let anybody convince you that it started on October 7 1. Haifa Massacre 1937 2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937 3. Haifa Massacre 1937 4. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939 5. Haifa Massacre 1939 6. Haifa Massacre 1947 7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947 8. Al-Khisas Massacre1947 9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947 11. Sheikh Burek Massacre1947 12. Jaffa Massacre 1948 13. Deir Yassin Massacre 14. Tantura Massacre 1948 15. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956 16. Jerusalem Massacre 1967 17. Bahro Al Baquar 1972 18. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982 19. Al Aqsa Mosque Massacre 1990 20. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994 21. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002 22. Gaza Massacre 2008-09 23. Gaza Massacre 2012 24. Gaza Massacre 2014 25. Gaza Massacre- 2018-19 26. Gaza Massacre2021 27. Gaza Massacre 2023 is still ongoing DONT LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU THAT IT STARTED ON October 7th

[@tee39]

Professor Mearsheimer is an outstanding icon on International Politics / Affairs .

[@desireedebellis6766]

these psychopaths have far too much power

[@jake751]

Also money 💰

[@khalidaser1430]

The electronic intifada with a great piece again. Professor John is interesting, articulate, knowledgable and fun to listen to.

[@Gralinedeasa]

22$ million AIPAC..lobbing bribing this year 2024 US elections

[@keirfarnum6811]

$22 million is relatively cheap in the grand scheme of things. It’s amazing how cheap it is to buy politicians.

[@johnbernacki6155]

@@keirfarnum6811I’m guessing it’s much more than that, it’s just that they’re hiding it very well

[@andrewcruz-nz1eb]

Money n possible blackmails.

[@dhyanidsouza2430]

Isn’t the Israeli Lobby also funded by the Evangelicals?

[@jchan9761]

According to an analysis by The Guardian, the pro-Israel lobby, including groups like the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), Democratic Majority for Israel (DMFI) and J Street, gave over $58 million to members of Congress in their most recent elections. The donations spanned across Congress, with only 33 members not receiving any donations from the groups.

[@Judgingopression]

Thank you EI for bringing such distinguished guests to your show which help to understand the complex nature of foreign politics. We can remain optimistic though and know that after so many tragic wars fuelled by the US, the global south is gaining more power and momentum and will hopefully have a more positive and peaceful approach.

[@alessandraceresa8003]

Thanks for mentioning Italy at one point ....we ourselves prefer to forget it too often , new generations do not even get to know it , thanks to a manicured national history education

[@zoek1133]

Italy was Hitler's ally. When you have politicians that joined Hitler, ordinary citizens DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE but to go to war.

[@djsouf5604]

Great convo but discounting the Israel lobby is a grave mistake. One could argue that the lobby and Israeli machine including the mossad are responsible for a lot of meddling that the US does around the world.

[@katiekane5247]

And MI5, the CIA as well

[@punapeter]

It's a ROGUE Nuclear state.

[@punapeter]

@@katiekane5247 cia/9II/mossad

[@punapeter]

They keep deleting any refference to 9 one 1 and the FUCKINGDANCINGISRAELLI MOSSADCIAIDFTERRORISTS

[@punapeter]

THREE TIMES YT censored myself and another, Maria Hewitt, who mentioned nine II and the dancing MoSsAd dancers.

[@johnstuart1688]

This is all so abundantly clear and obvious! Are mainstream politicians and media cynical or just plain stupid?

[@zoltanbarath7371]

Or just bought up?

[@mndeg]

controlled by the CIA since the 60's or 70's. operation mockingbird

[@SusanaMelegatti]

Thank you very much. As always... very precise, very clear, very accurate. 🕊 "PEACE IS NOT EVERYTHING, BUT 'EVERYTHING' IS NOTHING WITHOUT IT." Greetings from Montevideo, Uruguay! 🇺🇾🇺🇾🇺🇾

[@WilliamFMiloglav]

Great analysis, if rather depressing. Looks like things are going to get worse before they get better--if they ever get better.

[@margarettrebat6421]

Excellent interview, thank you! 👏👏👏

[@tobiashardy1620]

The guilty have to work so hard to convince, bribe, gaslight, coerce and blackmail to support their perspective- the truth speaks calmly for itself with beautiful clarity. Sadly money shouts very loudly.

[@elisaben3120]

Thank you guys for your honesty. If everyone see these problems with same eyes glasses we can all live together in peace and prosperity. ❤

[@josephrohland5604]

All Wars are Banker’s Wars.

[@keirfarnum6811]

“War is a Racket” by US Marine General Smedley Butler. What he wrote in still true is almost a century later.

[@jeffcummings4600]

Thank you for inviting Dr. Mearsheimer. Thank you for asking him tough questions. Thank you for engaging in rigorous and respectful debate.

[@ritabutler1951]

I feel like I have been eavesdropping on a conversation among smart friends.

[@sarahne1]

Thank you guys so much! I watched this conversation again in "full for a second time". Dr. Mearsheimer is truly an excellent neutral resource to help us understand the current world affairs. I also want to express my appreciation to you Nora and Ali for the pushback, it gives us listeners/viewers a fuller understanding of the subject. Again thank you! Subscribed!

[@ric2play]

Sooo.....Lobbies run America??

[@zoltanbarath7371]

Yes.

[@jon123xyz]

Nice to see the professor on this channel ... together with his ethical allies. How happy he is to engage in witticisms with EI. You will know them by the company they keep.

[@CalebCarman]

Steven Gowans, Noam Chomsky, Richard Becker and others make a good critique of Mearsheimer’s book in that it posits that the tail wags the dog - that US policy is dictated by the Israeli lobby, not that Israel itself is an outpost of Western geopolitical influence headed by America’s corporate ruling class in the form of Wall Street, the Pentagon, and the Council on Foreign Relations.

[@punapeter]

It's a ROGUE Nuclear state.

[@vmoses1979]

It's not a very cogent critique since why would the lobby need to be as big and well funded as it is if Israel itself is a bastion of American imperial interests. Why would it need to involve itself in so many local and state elections? Why would the lobby police social media, college campuses, media organizations and protesters to suppress people expressing the reality of Israeli oppression? I think this critique is based on an apprehension about Jews being seen to 'control' others.

[@punapeter]

@@vmoses1979 Jews and zionist aren't interchangable words. Different animals. ZioNAZIS do NOT speak for Jews.

[@thegoodpimps]

@@vmoses1979 The Jews are being used by the Christians to kill the Muslims. The World is ruled by Christians and Muslims, and it is these two groups that fight for dominance, Israel is a knife aimed at the heart of the Muslim world, and it also functions as a way to get Jews to voluntarily deport themselves from the Christian World. The Jews have the most to lose as if the Christians stop supporting them they stand at high risk of being holocausted by the Muslims, and Christians want to keep the voter supporting the war on Islam despite this war bankrupting the Western nations and citizens.

[@michelegosse7116]

moses - bc 1. the bastion is on lifesupport and armed support graciously given by usmerican taxmoney 2. the real goal of the bastion&handlers is kept unsaid/secret/ lied about from the ignorant payer.

[@Soint]

Excellent conversation! One of the best I've seen with John on KZbin.

[@Vort_tm]

I think there is a way to reframe Realist Logic to align with Moral Logic. Realist Logic almost always focuses on subjugation to maintain power, but it doesn’t have to. One could very easily make a case that making lives tangibly substantially better creates stability. Instead of military might, we should be focusing on genuine compassion. We should be helping to rebuild places we’ve destroyed, but also going beyond that to share scientific research, provide sustainable technology solutions, as well as food and medical aid. If we provided these things to the general populace of the world and stopped our oppression the logical outcome is that we would see less aggression against us, achieving the goal of stability. This is also a Realist viewpoint that the establishment just never even considers.

[@legendaryclarity]

The people in power don't act according to morals. They use the perception of morality to suit their ends.

[@zoltanbarath7371]

I agree but I think what you have suggested is slower, can't provide that amount of funds for political elites promptly. Not to mention the security establishment. No.matter how advantageous would be for the US and the world in the long run.

[@aquiljanuwalla6621]

The image of the US would be greatly enhanced if they were to genuinely bring improvements to the lives of people in the global south instead of military subjugation and oppression of an already impoverished populace. A case in point is Afghanistan. If they had spent only 10% of the money spent over 20 years, on infrastructure, schools, hospitals etc, the Afghani people would have rejected the Taliban

[@punapeter]

Or you could have just said, *FOOD BOMBS not Cluster bombs*

[@bobturo2302]

Thank you for being positive and increasing the vibrational frequency of this discussion. It’s always so easy to get negative regarding the evil running this planet. The only true solution is to find a solution similar to your reply that emphasizes the goodness in people and the affirmation that love and peace will prevail.

[@greatmarauder]

Awesome interview of Prof. Mearsheimer: a great mind. Thank you!

[@al-walidmohsen6917]

Purpose is not only ethic cleansing but also the wealth in gas reserves and opportunities for a channel parallel to the Suez Canal. They already invested billions in this war and have recoup the expenses so they have to go all the way. The US will also benefit from the gas reserves off the shores of Gaza. At least the UK BP has already set to benefit from future contracts.

[@stephenthelwell9167]

The UK & US & Israel are nothing more the outright thieves oil / gas / land and complicit in genocide 😢😢😢

[@Thewestslope]

One of the better interviews with Mearsheimer on the Israeli-Palestinian issues.

[@truthalone3402]

Aipac/ mossad have only become more entrenched.. think Epstein/Maxwell and Blinkens relationships

[@katiekane5247]

CIA and MI6 too

[@jennyrokeach1958]

Thank you Ali for your intro to Prof Mearsheimer. I've been listening to him a lot. I agree, very well put....

[@michelerousseau.]

Get AIPAC out of our government.‼️

[@SavanaT]

Mr. Mearsheimer taking the gloves off, be safe sir, and appreciate your honesty and bravery..... 🙏

[@stefanotittarelli4054]

I have seen other Mearsheimer interviews,this one is particularly interesting because of the intelligent probing of the interviewer.

[@brunsonmckinley5327]

Professor Mearsheimer should be debating with someone who can make the case for Israel and for US support for Israel. This is a major league issue and the Professor is a major league player.

[@fabianoescher149]

Great interview. Thanks for your work.

[@Lucy-s2q3i]

Register Israel lobbies as foreign agents. Campaign reform with limits in spending. Term limits. But our congress would never vote it in

[@ounsselhachemi4896]

Excellente conversation Différente des autres conversations avec Pr Mearsheimer que je suis toujours et partout Je viens de m'abonner à cett chaîne que je ne connaissais pas Bonne continuation ( from Tunisia 🇹🇳)

[@stevenlevy6119]

No one ever asks Dr. Mearscheimer what should Israel have done in response to October 7. He's good at telling Israel what not to do. What should have Israel done?

[@jmh814]

Repented and confessed their sins against mankind. Humbled themselves before God. That's always the answer.

[@seanfagan8490]

Not to treat humans like Animals it didn’t start on Oct the 7th it’s going on for 75 yrs.

[@stevenlevy6119]

@@seanfagan8490 you buy the Palestinian victim myth entirely. It's the Muslims who see the Jews as animals, "apes and pigs". And when they have the opportunity, as on Oct 7, they slaughter Jews as they would animals. Jews cannot coexist with a people who only wish to see Jews dead. It's in their religion and culture to kill Jews, not what the Jews ever did to them. That Jews live on "Islamic lands" is a profound insult to them.

[@sitiruhanaruhana3808]

Interesting discussion with Prof. J. M. 👍👍👏👏🙋🙋

[@louisesumrell6331]

Dump Trump. Say No to Genocide Joe. Vote Green. Jill Stein for President 💚

[@ascendown]

Brilliant! I would love it if on the next discussion we allow the professor a few minutes to explain why he thinks the US was never really an empire.

[@newvillagekitchens]

So well spoken with restraint and care. Thank you and I did like and subscribe!

[@drcce2022]

Great conversation.

[@TakeTheRedPill_Now]

This aged very well. Thanks for your work. Full support ❤

[@mahaafra1810]

❤love and respect to all of you. We need your reach to grow and grow