John Nelson Darby

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Thank you for this introduction on J. N. Darby's life!

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Great potcast! Thank you!

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New Covenant Whole Gospel: Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8, 3:16.) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the KZbin video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church: “The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? (See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.) Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.

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[@oswaldumeh]

Wonderful history! However, one little correction: that group who met together that Darby was a part of, DID NOT take up the name "Plymouth brethren". In fact, they were dubbed so by others because they referred to each other as brethren. It wasn't a name under which they wanted to be identified as they rejected every name but "gathered only unto the Name of the Lord". But again, beautiful history!

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Thank you for that clarification!!!

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You haven’t explained your initial premise; why he was so hated? For which, there is plenty of information and rebuttal for his “dispensational” nonsense. I suggest, it might be a good idea for you to acquaint yourself with his correspondence with other church leaders and scholars of his time, on that issue, before you attempt to persuade people into his particular brand of eschatological unscriptural, assumptive, inferential nonsense.

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Thank you for your very insightful response. I have spoken to many different pastors and church leaders from multiple denominations. My Calvinist friends have given me all the hateful information. It's funny when I tell the stories of Calvinists without making them out to be demons, I get the non-Calvinists complaining, and when I share stories of Dispensationalists, I get comments such as yours. Maybe we can all just hear the stories of these people from our past. :) I'm doing a mini-series right now on the Zionist movement, so if you love to hate people, I am sure you will find the series interesting.

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@@Churchhistorypodcast I’m neither a calvinist nor a dispensationalist and didn’t say anything about hating anyone. You did, you sarcastic little twit! Maybe you’re an example of why Paul agreed that women weren’t allowed to teach in the temple.

[@jdhi1515]

I see you side with Darby and his rapture. I know Jesus is coming for his church there is no doubt about. But you all have missed it God's goal for his people. My question to you what condition is the Church in just before Jesus comes for his church? right now the church is in an apostasy separated from the faith of Jesus. So how can he come back at any second if the condition of the church is in an apostasy? But really study to find out the true spirituality of the Church before Jesus comes. Nobody has ever dared to answer that. Maybe you'll be the first brave person on this planet to answer the question and of course you must use scripture upon scripture please don't just write what Darby said or Edwards said but what the scriptures say. Thank you Jon Hill

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This is a church history podcast. I am telling the story of the church in chronological order. I will eventually get to the state of the church today, but right now I am still in the 1800s.

[@brendaevans1378]

Praise GOD you are so right John Nelson Darby should have been ashamed of himself for starting such heresy dispensationalist is in my opinion a plot of Satan to confuse the Body of Christ and it surely did that ✝️🙏

[@anthonybennett5335]

Oh dear. Another podcast which does not recognise that J N Darby and dispensationalism have taken the people of God *away* from Christ and into endless discussions about prophecy

[@biblehistoryscience3530]

You know, Paul led many people to Christ then taught them about the rapture. So it's a false dichotomy to think that the church must choose between teaching the gospel (or anything else) and the rapture.

[@toddott633]

@@biblehistoryscience3530 I think what this person means is what I have witnessed in my church. People seem to care more about the rapture and "getting outa here" than they do about preaching the Gospel to the lost. Paul did both. He said it is better for us that he remain in the body. Rapturists would rather not.

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@@toddott633 That's an anecdotal generalization based on the supposition that the rapture is just escapism, and escapism should make people lazy and uncaring. But if that were true, there wouldn't be so many dispensational pre-mill ministries spreading the gospel to the world by all means 24/7/365.

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@toddott633 That's an anecdotal generalization. And behind it is a supposition that the rapture is just escapism, and escapism should make people lazy and uncaring. But if that were true, there wouldn't be so many dispensational pre-mill ministries spreading the gospel to the world by all means 24/7/365.

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@toddott633 Paul suffered terrible persecution and would rather have died because that would end and the next thing he would know, he'd be with the Lord. But it's best for them if he remained alive. Paul did not say he'd rather stay and work rather than be raptured.

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If people were expecting a secret, imminent rapture for 1, 800 years, they were so wrong.

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Another heretical podcast quoting other heretics...