John Paul Vann in VietNam (part 1)

John Paul Vann in VietNam (part 1)

[@AussieBobL]

I have read the book twice and recently finished listening to the audio book which is a total of 36 hours of listening. A two hour movie of the book doesn't even come close to capturing the complexity of Van's depressing childhood, the charade of his family life, the coverups surrounding his court martial and the positive sides of his personality . I highly recommend the book - not only does it cover Vans life, it goes in to considerably detail about how/why the Vietnamese were so successful at guerrilla warfare having practiced it for almost thousand years. The depressing thing is that few lessons seems to have been learned with the continual expensive military cockups in the middle east.

[@jasonrogers469]

Totally agree, "A Bright Shining Lie", should be..... like "Once An Eagle" is and has been for quite some time...required reading in our military academies, specifically West Point, which I believe needs a total overhaul in their instruction and training of the United State's army officers. This book was excellent in it's scope of both the big picture of our involvement in Vietnam, particularly the early years when it was a "9 to 5" war and also narrowing down the experiences and observations of one very competent soldier Lt. Col. Vann. Flawed though he was, his interpretations and observations of what was wrong and what needed to be done to accomplish the mission were, I believe, criminally ignored because of prejudices towards him by idiotic high ranking officers and politicians. Neil Sheehan wrote a book that along with "Hell In A Very Small Place" written by Bernard B. Fall, are truly "must reads" for anyone truly wishing to know what went wrong in the Vietnam Conflict.

[@michaelwilliams7907]

THE BOOK WAS EXCELLENT. AND THE TRUTH. SHALOM

[@Rebel-Rouser]

I've also read the book twice, although it was probably 20 years ago when i read it. I was stoked when the movie came out, only to be dissapointed when they left so much stuff out.

[@willabee79]

John Paul vann was my great great grandfather

[@SuperChrisOfficial]

Wow you must be his descendant. But always remember South Vietnam is coming back after we declare independence.

[@dukekevy6650]

@@SuperChrisOfficialas a southern Vietnamese, I’m staying with Uncle Ho Chi Minh, the south was miserable in the past.

[@Anubiswaechter]

One of my favorite songs while I'm driving.

[@michaelwilliams7907]

READ THE BOOK PEOPLE IF YOU WANT TRUTH. SEMPER FI TO ALL MY BROTHERS WHO NEVER MADE IT BACK HOME. RIP.

[@rubedogg6969]

Bill Paxton's best performance.

[@yanikpicardleduc]

Great TV movie, better than most of films

[@tobyblake851]

I was in the Tet Offensive and believe that Vann and General Weyand saved my life. But this movie does a pretty good job but it doesn't have the time the give the full scope of Vann. It misses the mark completely regarding his high IQ and ability to multi-task with great speed. He was a super-soldier.

[@richardhawkins2248]

Thank you so much for saying that. Right now on my channel I'm talking about him. As I say in the videos he was amazing. He was my best friends father. I happened to be with him at a time when he did something quite amazing. He made damn sure I never forgot it too. It is an event very few are aware of. I've always had a problem with Sheehan and I go into that in the videos in that playlist. Bill Paxton was shockingly good at this role too. The movie made me blow a gasket when they had Elsberg saying some of those things he said in there. Especially when they showed him in Vietnam when he most definitely wasn't. Vann really had a pair!

[@W.Stryker]

My uncle served in the Marine Corp and fought in Hue during the battle of Tet in 1968.

[@pankajkumardas6632]

US super soldier means, super invader, super murderer. Viet Cong should fire RPG on his chopper in one chance, but he was lucky that is why he servived.

[@johnrobinson1762]

Welcome to the big leagues. My god

[@reveallroxy9910]

Vann his friend my uncle. They do anything together in VN. Now my uncle stay in USA but me still in VN. His good man. He want save south VN.

[@corleonemichael21]

been looking for this movie for quite sometime..... thanks a lot......

[@RiceBoy1975]

Most Vietnam war movie are about the USA and north Vietnam. But this is many about the south Vietnamese USA and north Vietnamese.

[@billk2742]

Great movie. Ive read the book it was based off of "A bright shining lie" I would recommend that if you enjoy this movie you read that book.

[@Applecompuser]

Reading this now and happened to stumble on this.

[@rubedogg6969]

RIP Bill Paxton!

[@laurenhutton596]

AMEN BROTHER!!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@pug251]

good movie - great leader but the establishment hated him. They needed to listen to him

[@rubedogg6969]

A civilian 2 star general that's fucking awesome!

[@sansand1236]

Love how this movie shows ARVN, South Vietnamese!

[@Duc_Anh_809]

LONG LIVE VIETNAM

[@radaniel8923]

thanks for posting Calif

[@murrymury7723]

'About Face' published by author Colonel Hackworth invited a lot of hostility, such that he had to go into hiding fearing for his very life, but his story had had to be told. Should be required reading by students and history teachers. ;Bright Shining Lie' Should be required viewing by history teachers and students also...

[@MyztikJestaa]

murry mury Well i guess youd be happy to know that my 4th year history class is watching this for our vietnam topic

[@richardhawkins2248]

Actually I disagree. A Bright and Shining Lie missed so much. Sheehan actually tried to convince his youngest son Pete that his father had been assassinated. I suspect he was hoping a bunch of hype might be created so it would help him get more recognition and maybe face time. Fortunately Ted Kennedy really couldn't do anything he had just had his Chappaquiddick boo boo. I suspect it was the South Vietnamese that did him in.

[@darbyheavey406]

About Face was very good but Hack did most of his hiding on CNN and book tours. Hackworth had integrity and it cost him his career but his “very life” is a bit thick.

[@Claudio74x]

John Paul Vann ...REAL HERO!!!!!!!!!

[@samuelparker9882]

clau beck John Paul another FUCKIN MORON who doesn't know how to stay out of other countries affairs. Another WHITE MAN playing GOD WITH OTHER NATIONS OF PEOPLE'S LIVES. HE COULDN'T EVEN HANDLE HIS OWN AFFAIRS OR LIFE. TYPICAL BLOCKHEAD WHITEMAN. NO WONDER YOU OTHER PALE FACES THINK HE'S A HERO... YOUR JUST AS IGNORANTLY STUPID AS HE WAS. SOUTH VIETNAM WAS CORRUPT AND MEVER SHOULD OF BEEN MADE. AND ONLY EXISTED BECAUSE OF WHITE MEN BENT ON REWARDING THEMSELVES BY CONTRACTS AND STEALING RESOURCES. ASSHOLES IT was Never about freedom from communism. THE AMERICANS HELPED TO CREATE THE SOVIET UNION AND HELPED TO FUND LENIN AND TROTSKY TO START AND WIN THE BOLSHEVIV PARTY AND WAR... YA FUCKIN MORONS! IT'S DOCUMENTED FACT. GOD YOU PEOPLE ARE FUCKIN STUPID!

[@Claudio74x]

Neil Sheehan( Pulitzer Prize) A Bright Shining Lie: John Paul Vann and America in Vietnam

[@Lunatic4Bizcas]

Samuel Parker: Actually, it was elitist jewry that financed the Bolshevik Revolution; and you are right, much of the capital used to finance the Soviet Union in its inception came from the same corrupt financiers in New York City. Of course those of European extraction in high positions of power and influence have proceeded as willing collaborators and lackeys in the elitist's game of wide spread deception, tyranny and globalist financial manipulation.

[@davisluong2060]

Don't know much about his private life. Did they even have proof that he was committing adultery to include it in the movie? If not, then this is a slap to not only him, but the legacy he left behind.

[@girliesalvador7878]

nice movie..

[@m.n.3087]

The ARVN colonel Cao rank insignia is incorrect. In the movie he is wearing 3 VN “mai” flowers which is a captain rank. He’s missing a bar underneath the 3 flowers. In addition, ARVN never wears their ranks on the left pocket.

[@bigcomcast]

Officers do not walk around outside without their covers.

[@W.Stryker]

Yes sir

[@Marcfj]

I knew Lee very well; she was my landlady and my employer and she was NOT so soft-spoken.

[@rider660r]

Once you get past the fact they've used many wrong pieces of equipment and vehicles for the timeline it's set, it's an ok movie. The book was a much better read than movies usually are.

[@ironroad18]

I noticed that. Long-cabin UH-1Ds and Hs in the early 60s, when they should of has Shawnee Flying Bananas and short cabin UH-1s.

[@XidiotX]

game over man game over

[@brian_dunne]

An enjoyable dramatization (love Paxton), but no could do Neil Sheehan's masterpiece justice in 118 minutes.

[@benquinney2]

You can see their t-shirts

[@Daveyengland]

I read A Bright Shining Lie years ago… but why haven’t I ever heard mention of John Paul Vann outside of that book? For such an important person, it’s like he never existed (apart from the book). 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@frederickmiles327]

A civilian, yes a retired West point selected and trained professional military US officer, but only having obtained Lt Colonel in his mid 30s in his first term of army officer, has been promoted over serving officers and the hierarchy of the command officers in Vietnam in 1971-72, and promoted to as a civilian, to the rank of acting 3 star Lt General , and not only as a administrator or the manager of US withdrawal, but this civilian has been given full military command of US military forces in Vietnam in all out warfare. There are two conflicting expectations of Lt general Paul van, the United States Army know Van is a ferocious and brilliant professional officer who can and will lead the US Army like MacArthur or Paton and this fact not Van's illegitimacy, made Van unacceptable for normal peacetime promotion to flag rank in what is regarded in Washington as a 6th rank war to be staffed by 6th rate officers and superanuated and political generals. Vietnam is not important to the Pentagon or White House even in the Asian cold war theatre where Korea and the defence of Japan is the priority and the Indian Pakistan and Indonesian confrontation matters more important. Vann in his out of uniform service as a development official has cultivated and rather deceived the fashionable media that he is one of them.

[@ucHaiQuanTV]

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[@dunguyen7571]

American fought war in both fronts at home and abroad Neither party give an inch, finally, we, Vietnamese and American are both win, even we paid heavy price for it Vietnamese,at home and abroad learn a lot from the war ,and make some money too three million Vietnamese fled communist living abroad make as much as ninety millions people in Vietnam and as much as many doctors engineers professors as in Vietnam

[@123danvc]

Great movie based on a great book that shows some of the poor politics in the US armed services and the corruption of the south Vietnamese. Like someone commented, the politicians lost this war, not the soldiers.

[@nowdid]

RIP Bill Paxton

[@ronpelton2590]

I'm not here to save their faces, I'm here to save their asses!

[@moonkyo0118]

28:42 incompetent Cao, You take the responsibility!

[@lenini056]

Reminds me of the current Afghan army fighting the Taliban.

[@moonkyo0118]

10:33 As I see the colonel grabbing the command stick, the rotten smell spreads.

[@sufiansaidon5600]

LIM KAY TONG!!!!

[@andersonmoffet2178]

the elections were never held but the force that IKE left in 1961 should had been the maximum level .. 959 troops no more then that including GI'S to guard American bases .

[@jephrokimbo9050]

just a reminder that it was the "REVERED" john fitzgerald kennedy who sent the army special forces to vietnam and lyndon baines johnson who sent the marines in to danang and escalated the war in vietnam. DEMONRATS and their "good" intentions.

[@andersonmoffet2178]

@@jephrokimbo9050 China is now being allowed to be the only superpower thanks to our leaders ever since Vietnam ended

[@jephrokimbo9050]

@@andersonmoffet2178 REALLY?!? certainly do not see ANY country that values Freedom willing to SURRENDER and become SLAVES to the chinese. can you name ONE? the WORLD IS WAITING!

[@stevenbartholf8310]

What year this came out

[@XNY556-Apple]

Late 90s. 1998 I think

[@murallivengadasalam1300]

Vietnamese colonel is actually a Singaporean actor

[@TheSuperR6]

What name of the song please !?

[@sbaker3232]

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[@TheSuperR6]

+Luke Foreman thank u so much

[@alfonsorolli1645]

Ap Bac was the beginning of the end. At the end of the fight A tombstone white With the names Of the late deceased And the epitaph drear A fool lies here Who tried to hustle the East

[@raymondyee2008]

Good this movie is still here and it's a good movie but not all of it is historically correct. While I applaud HBO for having the courage to show the disastrous Ap Bac battle, it is incorrect at 23:43 about UH-1s only being used in the helicopter assault (it was actually CH-21s escorted by UH-1 gunships).

[@vongunter9947]

The production is aware of that. It is difficult to get an operational CH-21s on the film since most of them are in the museum or in non operational status. Additionally, the Thailand air force (sponsor of the UH-1s) do not have any CH-21s

[@lamnguyen-uj6lh]

The mission suppose to be a surprised atk , but the mission was leaked long be4 so the VC got the advantage.... and the troops arvn was dropped on top of the north vn fighter ... over all CIA failed all the general failed.... the one that dies is Vietnamese young mans on both side . Rip for those man on both side

[@tricao57]

wonder how I got my last name

[@hienhien9528]

Vietnam đâu hết r

[@alfonsorolli1645]

Next…on Vietnam

[@alfonsorolli1645]

MAC-V was a money-spending machine who sunk the US of A. John Paul Vann was a patriot. We turned SVN into a whore house sponsored by U.S. money. We are doomed.

[@tonnguyendinhton5767]

Why bring wat to oup country. Vietnammes loves peace

[@THXbox]

Bottom line...America was afraid. The rise of Communist China and the support of the Soviets for the North, had the powers that be of the time, frightened. They couldn't ever view the North's campaign as one of independence, and instead viewed it through cold war eyes.

[@nhanprogaming9987]

this is wrong in so many way

[@SouthwestRanger]

JPV eventually came around to the American side of thinking before he died

[@truongthanhnguyen3549]

hahahahaha

[@ekielrjayme3347]

is the story real???

[@billk2742]

Yes.

[@ekielrjayme3347]

OHw.. so this is what really happend!!!! damn!

[@tungcaohoang4917]

11:46 A North Vietnam flag ??

[@miliba]

probably a captured one

[@tungcaohoang4917]

Miliba Well, just imagine if George Washington had a British Empire flag in his room

[@paulparker8298]

Pure cheese 🧀

[@alfonsorolli1645]

John Paul Vann was a highly-motivated American soldier who - by One-Niner-Six-Niner - knew Vietnam was a horrible lie and a horrible mistake.

[@Rimasta1]

I believe John Paul Vann presented the Army with a plan to win the war." He wasn't a perfect man, ur interestingly enough, (the movie doesn't show it well) he was the one who presented President Nixon with the plan of Vietnamization, handing over ground combat to the ARVN while we provide air and naval gunfire support. It was a largely successful strategy but the political scandal of watergate eroded the political will to continue the support of the South Vietnamese. ARVN units actually preformed better towards the end of the war as well but when that overwhelmingly power that U.S. air power brought disappeared, they couldn't hold out. And perhaps that would mean China would have never gained the Spartly and Paracel Islands and wouldn't be building an air strip in the South China Sea.

[@ekielrjayme3347]

soon that south china sea they assumed.. weel be blown off.. someone is just waiting for china's wrong move

[@DGKonkrete]

Rimasta1 were you in Vietnam? You seem very educated o the subject.

[@samuelparker9882]

Rimasta1 NO HE DIDN'T. AND IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL IDIOT. THEY LOST THE COUNTRY IN 2 YEARS. WHERE DO YOU GET SUCH BULLSHIT OR DO YOU MAKE IT UP AS YOU GO ALONG?! MORON.

[@gff6929]

Yup 100 percent agree even tho arvn in 1970s still in my opinion ineffective but they we're better compare to diem era,if they had support from us advisor,firepower,and money they will defeat the pavn offensive just like in 1972

[@Andrew-bc1wo]

yeah the acting sucks in this movie but....paxton was a great actor (RIP) and look a young donal logue! (gotham)

[@jeffreythomson3958]

Poor adaptation of the book, a seminal work. The "Times Man" supposedly is David Halberstam, who was only there little over one yr. This is what happens when Hollywood goes to war, reality flies out the window. Amazing that Sheehan, Halberstam and Malcolm Browne despite their heavy criticism all believed Vietnam too important to lose and developed a great affection for the Vietnamese people.

[@wilsonphan8556]

I read somewhere the story that goes like at the end of the war Halberstam and Sheehan jokingly asks each other:" Do you know what you just did to VN?"

[@pauledmonds3249]

Ha Ha Ha so fucking cheesy it's an insult to the men who fought.

[@osola1177]

Lũ thất bại

[@Solsys2007]

If you read "They Fought Alone" you'll see that Colonel Fertig learnt the same lessons in the Philippines in WW2. That facts tells you another lesson, and that is the US military doesn't learn lessons.

[@amychang7664]

the acting in this movie sucks but thanks for uploading :-)

[@arlieferguson3990]

Something about the way they wear their uniforms just fails to convince they have ever been military men.

[@taothao4664]

not realistic at all

[@uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweug3323]

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[@osola1177]

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[@henchibnt3175]

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