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Former mobster John "Red" Shea shared his thoughts on notorious figures like Sammy "The Bull" Gravano and Gene Borrello, who have become infamous for cooperating with law enforcement. The conversation revolved around Shea's life post-incarceration and his decision to break away from the criminal underworld. After serving 12 years in prison, Shea described the surreal experience of freedom, notably the freshness of the outside world compared to the oppressive air of prison. Upon his release, Shea consciously chose to start anew, entering the laborers' union instead of returning to a life of crime. He discussed how collaboration with Mark Wahlberg led to the success of his book, which became a New York Times bestseller. Shea emphasized his pride in maintaining his integrity and criticized those like Gravano and Borrello who justify their decisions to snitch with excuses.
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