John Wycliffe - Michael Davies

In part 2 of his series on "Orthodoxy, Heresy," Mr Davies speaks on the proto protestant, John Wycliffe. For more please visit www.keepthefaith.org/

[@reneekollars6767]

I so appreciated Michael Davies and our Catholic faith he knew so well.

[@KyleOfCanada]

Thank you, Sensus Fidelium, for sharing this excellent lecture! It was very informative. The most interesting part was Davies' commentary on Wycliffe's notion of _sola Scriptura_ and the problem of authority that naturally follows--because this remains the same problem for Protestants who came later: "Wycliffe taught that the Scriptures provide the sole source of doctrine, to which, nothing can be added by any ecclesiastical authority. So, if the Church added to or deviated from the Bible, then the Church was wrong. Now a problem occurs here: How are you to decide that the Church has deviated from the Bible? Wycliffe's criterion for deciding whether a deviation from Biblical truth had occurred was his personal interpretation of the Scriptures. In this respect, he anticipated Luther, Kolb(?), Zwingli, and every Protestant reformer who, to all intents and purposes, substituted their personal infallibility for that of the pope. There is no other explanation for it. [For Wycliffe said that he was the one with the authority to determine what the Bible had said but, you see, Catholics had always attributed that authority to the pope; he really substituted himself for the pope.]" Edit: Thanks also for providing the link in the description. Seems like a worthwhile site to check out!

[@olgacrego9729]

Thank you very much !!! Learned much.

[@mikeoconnor4590]

The denial of the real presence is an attack on God himself

[@tmagz6622]

very superstitious opinion

[@Leocomander]

@@tmagz6622A very accurate opinion indeed.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

John Wycliffe (also spelled Wyclif, Wycliff, Wiclef, Wicliffe, Wickliffe; 1320s - 31 December 1384), was an English scholastic philosopher, theologian, Biblical translator, reformer, priest, and a seminary professor at the University of Oxford. He became an influential dissident within the Roman Catholic priesthood during the 14th century and is considered an important predecessor to Protestantism. Wycliffe attacked the privileged status of the clergy, which had bolstered their powerful role in England. He then attacked the luxury and pomp of local parishes and their ceremonies. Wycliffe also advocated translation of the Bible into the vernacular. In 1382 he completed a translation directly from the Vulgate into Middle English - a version now known as Wycliffe's Bible. It is probable that he personally translated the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; and it is possible he translated the entire New Testament, while his associates translated the Old Testament. Wycliffe's Bible appears to have been completed by 1384, additional updated versions being done by Wycliffe's assistant John Purvey and others in 1388 and 1395. Wycliffe's followers, known as Lollards, followed his lead in advocating predestination, iconoclasm, and the notion of caesaropapism, while attacking the veneration of saints, the sacraments, requiem masses, transubstantiation, monasticism, and the very existence of the Papacy. Beginning in the 16th century, the Lollard movement was regarded as the precursor to the Protestant Reformation. Wycliffe was accordingly characterised as the evening star of scholasticism and as the morning star of the English Reformation. Wycliffe's writings in Latin greatly influenced the philosophy and teaching of the Czech reformer Jan Hus (c. 1369-1415), whose execution in 1415 sparked a revolt and led to the Hussite Wars of 1419-1434.

[@VARELA2nd]

Even earlier were the Waldensians in 1120. They were Lombards in northern Italy and pretty much just like what the Anglicans would be.

[@paxvobiscum9859]

I don't think there was ever a time when heretics weren't attacking the Church. Even Saint Augustine said that we'd always have to deal with the smoke of Satan within and without the Church.

[@frankjacobs2946]

This is great. Thank you. Does anybody know when and where he gave this lecture?

[@user-eu8ub9cm5t]

4/18 Any Appeals to Rome ?This Papal era was Avignon Papacy 1305 to 1378 Opposition to Papacy under Heretic Proto Protestant Wycliffe / Current reminder of May 2nd Lifesitenews website this year Request for Bergoglio Abdication which I support as should every Traditional Catholic who opposes current Pro Luther Pope

[@raimundohenriques1433]

A protestant comentary look for followers

[@allisvanity...9161]

At the colloquy of Marburg, the ONLY issue that Luther, and Zwingli could not agree on was the Lord's Supper. Personally, I think that the Spiritual Communion, and Consubstantiation can coexist. The symbolic view dose not cohere with John 6, and the idolatry of transubstantiation also misses the point. 31 Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'" 32 Jesus then said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." 34 They said to him, "Sir, give us this bread always." 35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. John 6:31-35 ESV Our Lord is not speaking of corporeal bread, but Spiritual bread. The particular Greek word used for to eat means to continually feed on. This can only refer to feeding on Faith.