Warner Bros Committed To Expanding Matt Reeve’s “Gotham Universe” After Penguin

We are hearing that Warner Bros is committed to developing a "Gotham Universe" following the success of The Batman and The Penguin to exist side by side with James Gunn's new DCU.
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[@sandman45981]

Remember there is Marvel, DC, and BATMAN.

[@WilliamLamont82]

Batman is the Beyonce' of DC

[@ShinyRyuji]

And Spider-Man

[@rhetro777]

Strangely accurate

[@Jadenz_]

Marvel fans try not to mention marvel challenge

[@JezzaBondiBeach]

Very accurate ! There’s a reason he got a star in Hollywood

[@big99gamer18]

How about a Harvey Dent centered legal court drama about him tackling Gotham's corruption that builds up to his descent into Two-Face??

[@asura7915]

yep, i can see it

[@tsheporabekane4172]

But then you will have to have Bruce Wayne in it, and WB aren't willing to have Bruce or Batsy appear in a TV show... Because there is no Harvey without Bruce.

[@cameronbolden5064]

@@tsheporabekane4172wrong they aren’t allowed too since Disney owns the tv rights to Batman ( 95% sure )

[@dalton.w.miller]

​@@cameronbolden5064 Disney does not own the TV rights for Batman.

[@jonathanbarr4297]

Actually, I think they do. It actually goes back to the Adam West show. I’m not sure on the legality of it in full. But there are KZbin videos on the subject.

[@adamwhite4858]

Court of Owls is a necessity in this iteration.

[@NikstSWE]

Imo that would need to be an endgame thing. Court of Owls need a long standing history of Batman in Gotham. You cant have it now. He needs to gave been Batman a long time. And if they do it right, they can plant some stuff that later on when CoO happens, we can go "Holy Sh*t! It was there all along!" :-D

[@adamwhite4858]

@@NikstSWE I agree, it needs to be something that they’re building towards. I don’t necessarily think it has to be 20 projects in like Endgame though.

[@NikstSWE]

@@adamwhite4858 well no, not 20. LOL. But certainly not The Batman 2, or even 3. Not unless they do shows that cover a lot of ground before the third movie.

[@harrismatthew5553]

A Mind Hunter/ True Detective vibe Harvey Dent series where he works as a hot up coming DA who ends up becoming Two Face

[@WickerSticksSinema]

I’d love an anthology horror series like tales from the crypt set in Arkham

[@MrNegron]

An Arkham Anthology a psychological thriller of 9 episodes being narrated by Jonathan Crane, and the Main Character being Hugo Strange interviewing a different character in Arkham with 3 arcs of 3 episodes going back and forth between the interview and the character flashbacks how they become criminals and how they committed their crimes and Hugo Strange picking up their brains.

[@johnlydon22]

This is brilliant

[@Karina_Smith-z3o]

I think if Gunns fails they don’t need to restart, they have one active.

[@benbryan4468]

I have faith in James Gunn and am excited to get the DCU started. It's good to have these elseworld stories, freshens things up a bit.

[@jessejorgensen3931]

I like the idea of having a grounded universe and a comic accurate both can get overwhelming and it’s nice to have a break from either or. I pretty sure we can handle it as fans considering there’s multiple versions of each comic out there.

[@ultramagneticlion2147]

Law & Order with Montoya, Bullock and Harvey Dent.

[@russports99]

Uhh that’ll be good 👍🏽

[@jendaar]

Expanding the Matt Reeves Batman universe? Good. Expand it into the main DCU? Bad.

[@theghostofsparta4528]

Both can be good

[@jeremyfields9009]

Batman, Harry Potter, and Lord of the Rings are WB most prized possessions.

[@craigd7333]

@2:52 lol .. Kris’s reaction here is perfect 😂

[@Dis2good]

Lmao right. She’s like… probably Catwoman? Did you see the movie? 😂😂

[@DReppin2009]

Batman and Superman are big enough commodities that Warner can keep both those worlds separate. Batman suits Reeves and Superman suits Gunn. It's a no brainer considering how grounded Batverse is and how cosmic and expansive Supeverse is.

[@conejoXX209]

Gunn with be having Batman twerking in no time if they brings the characters together

[@michael_notscott]

Gunn’s doing a Batman movie called “The Brave and the Bold”. Even though it’s not “The Batman” it’s still a version of Batman.

[@kadiriolanipekun6486]

@@conejoXX209 bro what are you talking about

[@BusterBarnes]

@DReppin2009 Gunn will still have a Batman though lol there'll just be two Batmen one in the Reevesverse and one in the Gunnverse

[@conejoXX209]

If they keep this tone to their other characters its a BIG W for DC (finally)

[@DUNDOM5]

Black Mask show would be great

[@Mr.JakeSkywalker]

yes plz

[@sayheyguy]

It can run parallel to the DCU, as long as they don't crossover. I'm down.

[@davidjames1389]

The biggest no-brainer would be a series around Kravitz's Catwoman, since she was cool as hell and I'm guessing we won't see much of her in the next movie.

[@Mr.JakeSkywalker]

she left Gotham tho

[@davidjames1389]

​@@Mr.JakeSkywalkerCould always be a prequel or origin story. Although I also see the appeal in preserving the mystery around her...

[@KyleKing-ke7yv]

Boring character glad shes out of the picture

[@ekeneokere5898]

Terrible idea. No thanks

[@BusterBarnes]

This is why having 2 Batmen LA woukd be great. Just have one universe solely focused on him and another were hes part of a bigger universe. They wont take away from eachother it just gives us more great content

[@Shazam961]

I disagree if that happens, why could not they keep Superman and Lois on TV, especially how brilliant it is as well big screen new Superman.

[@BusterBarnes]

@Shazam961 Because the CW cant afford it, everyone seems to ignore the fact that CW had to cut the vast majority of the supporting cast to part time deals for Season 4 due to budget restraints. CW head said it was because of two competing Superman but bro is clearly just covering his ass ngl

[@EAllengd]

Johnathon Crane the scarecrow.

[@thewatcher9500]

We can have Matt Reeves universe and the DCU. there's nothing wrong with that .I think it's awesome you got your grounded batman detective elseworld verse over here and your fantastical comic book scifi retro futuristic comic booky universe over here which has a more fantastical batman . i like that i think that's awesome i will gladly watch both UNIVERSEs . I love it .I need Catwoman series on max set in the batman version

[@paultwarowski5241]

Rahs Al Guhl as your James Spader like Blacklist character. Have a big underlying mystery be "is this guy immortal" and find ways that someone could fake immortality in a grounded world.

[@cameronbolden5064]

Stem cell and plasma research. Could also do some pseudo brain conscience transfer science

[@SmithFamily-d7q]

Wildcat series starring Sylvester Stallone/Dylan O'Brien. A anthology-like series based on Wildcat recounting his origin and time as a vigilante in Gotham. The other vigilante's he has trained over the year's. Batman, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Grayson.

[@jessejorgensen3931]

Freeze can be a hit man. Like the iceman. Or a serial killer? All he has to do is freeze victims and leave them like bread crumbs or be a cold hearted hitman to get the nickname and store you store the victims in the walk in freezer of of club 44 below. I think that’s what they’re going to do with victor? Penguin is going to kill graciela and put blame bat man.

[@sterlingarcher5698]

I liked the idea of his wife having a unique degenerative disease and Freeze goes round removing organs and leaving the bodies in baths of ice. You could add a political element for targeted victims, political wrangling lost his wife's insurance etc...but that makes it very similar to The Batman.

[@TheKevinWood]

DC should just have Batman be a wholly separate franchise. Marvel not having X Men and Spiderman forced them to think outside the box and play less safe with their ip, and DC could replicate that.

[@BusterBarnes]

@TheKevinWood This isn't 2008, you need your bigger characters now to help build the franchise and build up the other characters

[@rogiergiersthove]

Calling it a Gotham universe is hilarious since its just 1 city.

[@krsurakshith6311]

Gotham-verse would be the right word

[@StarshipYorktown]

Gotham Central.

[@MaktheMad]

Problem is that they’ve saturated the market already. Pennyworth, Gotham, Batwoman..wasn’t there another Gotham show they were going to make?

[@DReppin2009]

Not saturated because none of those match the quality of the Reevesverse.

[@Mr.JakeSkywalker]

All of those are garbage tho and no one watched them

[@theghostofsparta4528]

Those are completely different from Matt Reeves

[@nimawhe]

"Who's your Red Reddington?" The obvious answer is Hugo Strange.

[@keaton3174]

A Mr. Freeze show (like 4-6 episodes) that chronicles him as a scientist and and his search for a cure for his wife leading to his downfall and then using him as the main villain in a Batman movie could be a great lead up.

[@JezzaBondiBeach]

Great news !!! Batman has the biggest rogues gallery out of any comic book character. He needs his own universe to explore all this lore. CANT WAIT 🦇 🦇

[@alphapc9156]

Season 2? I thought The Penguin was a limited series

[@JediRebelMoonWalker]

So far, the only other show i wanna see, is Keoghan's Joker I really thought we would get that. I hope we still do I don't want just any character get get their own show though. We have to see what happens with Part 2 & potentially part 3. It has to be a similar situation as Penguin. Where the actor kills it, wasn't in the film much & there's more to tell through a show. But as of now, I think The Joker can have his own show too

[@Alton7771]

My fear is a lot of people do not have HBO and you need hbo to watch the show and lot of people will be lost in the movies.

[@jeremyfields9009]

Matt Reeves already said the tv shows aren’t essential to the movies.

[@BusterBarnes]

@@Alton7771 The shows aren't crucial to the movies

[@tsheporabekane4172]

Is it just me, or do these 9 minute Campea videos feel extremely short lately, especially with the inclusion of a sponsor ad on each one of them... 🤔😅

[@IMZ44]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@jacobweyker6857]

Love The Batman and loving the penguin. Can’t wait for The Batman part 2

[@nestoralvarezmedina5663]

THE PENGUIN🐧: is a great series from Matt Reeves' Batverse.🦇🦇 DC Cómics❤DC Studios❤Esworlds of DC.

[@scriptflippa533]

They should make him the dcu batman and escalate the threat in the villain in each movie making it more and more plausible he's in the same universe as gunns Superman

[@nathanhollis995]

Love this idea. This world is so good and so interesting, but yes.. keep going for quality over quantity and release, at maximum, 2 shows per year. Batman part II is coming and we’ll definitely get a part III if and when II is successful. As far as Rogues.. whether in the film or a series.. Scarecrow, Hugo Strange, Harvey Dent/Two Face, the Court of Owls, more Penguin, Joker and Black Mask are all viable, grounded options. I’m down for Calendar Man, Hush or the golden age version of Clayface as well, as long as it’s not a super similar story to the Riddler’s where Batman is investigating murders across Gotham. So many possibilities to explore within that world. Let’s get it!

[@MaSk0r]

Although I did not love The Batman, the recipe for success is there. Can't wait for Penguin to finish to binge it

[@kingklutch1373]

I think the official name of this universe or continuity is "The Batman Epic Crime Saga" which I think is fantastic!

[@juliosoley3372]

If they do it, clearly it would have to be another Villain backstory, I would suggest Mr. Freeze, The council of Owls with Commissioner Gordon as the main star or lastly a back story showing the start of Carmine Falcone and Don Maroni.

[@stacysmom9926]

Joker or riddler have already been introduced. If we’re going with the blacklist idea, either could make a cool redfield, they just need the right motivations to help Batman

[@comiclove5]

Give me Gotham City Central, please

[@brianjoslin2011]

I think that Victor Zzasz would work in a Dexter sort of way. The show could follow Victor as he begins a spree of killings. A real psychological study of homicidal insanity.

[@matthewvandebogert2799]

Scarecrow! The opposite of Bliss is fear. I think having Crane being a Dr at Arkham and the power he would have over the patients would be immense. That would be great, two-face is plausible too but we had him in TDK, so may be too soon to have the Harvey Dent becoming Two-Face show. But I would love creepy Dr that comes off as small and quiet but is insane himself using different drugs to build up to his fear toxin.

[@greenious508]

I like the Poison Ivy about Eco-terrorism. Or we could have a group of villains that spawned out of the riddler community in the first movie. I.e. Firefly, Iceman, Poison Ivy who want to still rid corruption. The flooding plan went thru but that community had more ideas and somebody else steps up. :D

[@Wooshey_Wooj]

I’m more excited for The Batman Universe than the DCU. also, you said it. Each episode is perfect and better than the last. I would love an Arkham show or a Joker show, but don’t correctly. Remember correctly! I saw the new Joker for free and still want my time back.

[@samy7174]

Definitely a commissioner Gordon show

[@nathanunck7134]

I love all of these ideas. The only thing that is strange to me if you go from watching the Batman to watching the Penguin, the Batman was rated PG-13, whereas Penguin is TV:MA, which would is very R rated. It’s kind of jarring. If they’re choosing to make the Batman movies with a PG-13 rating, it feels like the TV shows that are rated TV:MA, it alienates younger teenagers who can go see the PG-13 Batman movies, but can’t watch Penguin. If these shows are all TV:MA, then some groups of people will be missing parts of the overall story. I really love the penguin, but I feel it alienates a big group of people who are excited for the Batman movies.

[@craighaley1658]

Max: More of a good thing? What could go wrong? Disney+: Uhhhhhh. Quite a bit, actually.

[@allenmoffat9357]

I agree with Kris, "Oz is earned". Sony tried with Spiderman and they don't know how to properly adapt Spiderman anymore so they have to really understand their universe and the Characters first.

[@logantamlyn9727]

Hot take: instead of Gunn starting a DC universe, he should’ve started his Metropolis universe, and then eventually intertwined the two, THEN expand the rest of the DC universe

[@MatiZ815]

A series about Harley Quinn from before she turned crazy as she works in the asylum with the craziest of Gotham and inevitably forms a weird connection with Joker.

[@Mr.JakeSkywalker]

This is getting tricky now. If the first Battinson didn't make a good chunk of money i'd say just develop the whole Battinson-verse on HBO and then have a separate theatrical Gunn Batman. But idk how they play this tbh. But I think the unspoken thing with all of this is it all depends on how well Superman does. Because they already know the Battinson-verse is a hit, they don't know how Superman is gonna do.

[@jeremyfields9009]

The Batman was more profitable than all of Zack Synder films

[@Mr.JakeSkywalker]

@@jeremyfields9009 actually no it didn't make more than BVS

[@jeremyfields9009]

@@Mr.JakeSkywalker WB made more money off The Batman than BVS

[@jeremyfields9009]

@@Mr.JakeSkywalker THE BATMAN (2022) made a profit of $177M. In comparison - BATMAN V SUPERMAN made $105M and MAN OF STEEL made $46M.

[@Mr.JakeSkywalker]

@@jeremyfields9009 I mean you could be right but comparing it to a dead universe (the Snyderverse) is completely irrelevant because I never brought that up in the first place

[@WingDingzz]

If they are seriously considering expanding The Batman universe there is no excuse to not eventually adapt Dick Grayson or any Robin really. I know that’s the plan with Brave and The Bold, but that sounds like a Batman deep into his career with a son and a fully established Bat family. We have the opportunity here to explore Bruce’s relationship to an early protege that allows him to re enter a family again. Batman has an amazing rogues gallery but you can’t sustain an interconnected story with one hero and only adapt Batman villians as other projects. Batman also has an amazing supporting cast that we need to see explored if this universe continues

[@GPsarakis]

The tv shows have to revolve around the movies. So we need to see what happens in Batman 2 for an idea of what the next tv show(s) might be until we get Batman 3. Once things are more established you can do 1 show after the movie ends like with Penguin, that builds up a established character for the next movie, maybe. Or you follow that series with a second leadup show that will introduce elements that will come into play in the next movie. Either way, it all depends on what the movies do.

[@ericohm9474]

They need to do Gotham city sirens in this matt reeves universe

[@ericperry72]

Selena Kyle or Scarecrow. Would love to see Mr Pyg but how do you do the frog?

[@Mr.JakeSkywalker]

Selina spinoff is probably pretty likely, tho she left Gotham in Battinson 1 so not sure where they'd go from there

[@davidmanning2859]

Reeves has said he would like to see a spin off of poison ivy, so that will probably happen. An arkham series that could lead into a movie where batman has to go into an arkham that is taken over by the villians would be cool. That being said a court of owls series or movie would be dope.

[@Shazam961]

My response is, " Don't do it " cause it feels like why could they not keep Superman and Lois on TV and still make DCU Superman movies. If they decide to keep making separate Batman movies and Spin off movies, whilst trying to build the James Gunn DCU universe. It's a bad idea period, cause quality would get damaged.

[@BusterBarnes]

@@Shazam961 I doubt quality would get damaged tbh. Reeves in control of one and Gunn the other so quality wouldn't be affects as its not like you're getting the same person to do both and therefore stretching them

[@gerardcrabb4556]

They did Gotham can do Penguin spin off...

[@Darknight-vr9ft]

If they keep focusing on good characters and good stories then they will keep making hits. If they find thing to churn out to make money they will fail. I think Matt Reeves is smart enough to understand this

[@NeilPrice-zy2tm]

No doubt the next DC spin off has to be CATWOMAN, Zoe Kravitz return for a 6 part limited series. She went off to Bludhaven so they can do the Black Mask storyline, or Selina goes goes to Rome. Plus we get to see a proper Catwoman suit and mask, new whip and claws. Set it between the Penguin and Batman Part Two. Also, the Arkham Ayslum series, Hugo Strange is the main character as he deals with the inmates of Arkham, Riddler, Joker, all appear. That drug used in Penguin gets to Arkham and Dr Jonathan Crane tests it into something else and Hugo tests it on inmates, use Arkham Ayslum graphic novel as inspiration.

[@blakemartin6963]

If they do Arkham asylum like blacklist they should focus it around. Harley quinzell before she becomes Harley Quinn

[@youngarsonist02]

Court of owls season would be epic

[@ericperry72]

Too soon. Batman needs to seriously experienced to tak on that level of threat

[@kiekiegenkia1231]

ngl i kinda dont want this because it becomes saturated i want them to focus on batman and if there is a character in the movie we like then dio that

[@Fordaflock]

NIGHTWING 🎯💯🔥🔥🔥

[@mejohn101]

“I don’t want her to be Uma Thurman” 🤣

[@MentLeee]

We bout to have 20 Batmans

[@richiexp2]

I will love to see a Dr Hugo Strange series...

[@Shazam961]

Warner Bros are trying to be too greedy now, because of the incredible sucess of, " The Penguin " l feel if they go full ahead with this its all going to fall to pieces.

[@davidalexander-dhs-baltimo2708]

The "Gotham Universe" needs to replace the Elseworlds Universe.

[@mrmackay8353]

Do a Joker origin series with Him as the head of the red hood gang lol

[@ellis.d_419]

if they go a blacklist route make Riddler the equivalent to Red

[@ellis.d_419]

shit seems obvious to me ngl, 1. hes one of two established and caught villans 2. hes smart (and good) enough to want to take down other villains whereas I dont think joker would comply

[@GAMEBYTHEPOUND]

I think it would be great but the conflict I think that will happen is “Robin” The Matt Reeves DNA, I think will produce a better version on him in that world. I believe James Gunn is going to release the first Batman movie with Robin so I don’t know.What you guys think✌🏾

[@C-Bee]

Give me my damn Zoe Kravitz Catwoman show or movie

[@CartoonProWrestling]

Catwoman already earned her show

[@hyperiontheevil]

Just me: If one is going to have a Gotham universe that sounds great. But i dont like series or movies without balance..I didnt see Joker for the reason is that eventually you have to balance that scale of chaos with something that fights back agaisnt that chaos......For a 'Gothamverse" you need batman.

[@andrewbrown9981]

If you want to expand you need to do Dick Grayson

[@Kevdog1920]

Can the penguin be cgi or just a mask if Colin doesn’t want to get all that make up

[@lturner7159]

Poison ivy could be a metaphor for a master seductress 🤷🏾‍♂️😏😌

[@darthjavo7438]

Matt Reeves is late…to expand the universe….it should be already for December….come on ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@noogeyroadrocks8062]

I would love a series abou young jim Gordon in Gotham when Bruce Wayne is still a teenager. He has to deal with someone Batman's Villains. The riddler is his coworker. And at the end of the series, young Bruce gonna don the Batman costume for the first time. That'd cool if they use a shitty costume

[@russports99]

Kinda sounds like the Gotham show with Ben McKenzie and Mazouz 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@noogeyroadrocks8062]

@@russports99 no wayyy.. how about this? There's penguin in it. But he's skinny and limp and he works for a woman called "fish"

[@edp9054]

Honestly they should have be the new dcu

[@coreyforeman8839]

Joker is probably coming being that the movie just bombed. They could build him up for batman 3 movie him and penguin

[@maxpops8427]

Idk this sounds like WB has less confidence in Gunns DCU. And after Joker the last thing I need in CB Films is to bee grounded and realistic

[@BusterBarnes]

@@maxpops8427 They're not less confident in the DCU they just also have confidence in the already successful Reevesverse

[@JamesMeechan-os6sl]

There was a version of poison ivy I'm batwoman

[@LycanVisuals]

Scarecrow please.

[@ericwilliams6153]

I can see a Selina Kyle cat woman. The Khloe Kravitz character is already tied in with what's happening in gotham

[@Mr.JakeSkywalker]

yeah except she left Gotham

[@JDC-84]

Gordon and the GPD Show.

[@jean-alexandrethibault3892]

Good luck without Batman. Penguin is an outlier...

[@Mr.JakeSkywalker]

eh, not really. As long as you let the villains be villains people usually dig it

[@BusterBarnes]

@jean-alexandrethibault3892 Not really. HBO shows have pull because of their consitent quality

[@JamesWick99]

It would be cool if they take inspiration from the rocksteady Arkham games (not the Suicide Squad one)

[@revolutionarydragon1123]

No because their too much batman related content everywhere

[@joshhunt4146]

Hate this idea. Makes me want to stop watching The Penguin. Can we not have a good thing without turning it into a shared universe?

[@Daisymayspeaks]

Harley you could focus it around her or Dr strange!!!

[@adrianporter5749]

Hugo Strange. If they called it Dr. Strange everyone would expect Benedict and a floating cloak. That would be funny though if they tried to use that title.

[@tiktokclocky6438]

Petition to call it DCE (DC else world). DCEU would be cool too but that all been used 😅

[@Silas_Kow]

WOW they will continue this universe till they ruin it, who could have guessed

[@davidlerois6268]

To me, joker or Catwoman tv show

[@neromusic138]

Idk why this just can’t be in the DCU. Gunn’s Superman and Reeve’s Batman will be similar in age… but Gunn’s ego I think is what will keep them separate. I don’t want to hear any Gunn fanatics saying “Matt Reeves wants to keep it separate” that’s a media excuse. Gunn is the CEO of DC entirely if he wanted Reeves’ Batman as his DCU Batman he would and could do it

[@arash_gh-20]

no please no

[@EAllengd]

Nothing to do with ego. Best left separate.

[@zipperdemon1389]

That would be stupid why would you put pure greatness in a lame cinematic universe. Focus on Batman, his rogues gallery, and Gotham. Don’t want this stuff mixed up in cameo fest cgi slop cinematic universe.

[@DReppin2009]

I don't think Gunn wants that though. His ego won't get in the way of logic. Logically it makes sense to keep Reeves Batman separate.

[@neromusic138]

@@zipperdemon1389 because Gunn was literally hired to build a cinematic universe where everything is connected and consistent. The Batman as the first entry due to its success would have been a great starting point. You can still have separate stories in their respective cities and rogue galleries but have them come together for justice league threats. Batman doesn’t need Superman’s help for any of his rogue gallery so it could work. But the JL could use Batman for his knowledge and leadership

[@dallasmustang11]

Just hope to god they don’t make the dceu goofy

[@danielnevarez788]

I think if the take what young justice accomplished that could combining the dcu and Matt universe possible and still keep both the light hearted Superman mixed with the darkness of Batman a possibility