The SEC and Big Ten May Create Their Own Playoff

[@charlesvorones3612]

Great observations, John!! College football was much more exciting when conferences had regional & geographic distinctions and identity. There were traditional style differences: the Big 10 ran more and played in colder, wetter conditions, the Pac-10 passed more, the WAC passed all the time, SouthWest conf. ran the wishbone, the SEC was a blend; but cultural differences remained intact, recruiting & even small college & high-school coaching connections were regionally unique. No more than 10 teams meant that the winner of the conference REALLY was the winner of the conf. Bring back the Big 8, Pac-10, etc.!

[@michaelhiatt8802]

The SEC should add Clemson and Florida State. Then they could separate from the rest of the country and then have a playoff that only includes SEC teams. They could glory in their own their greatness. They could rename their championship the Confederacy Games and be their own champion each year without fail. The rest of us could just go back to regular college football.

[@Br0ku]

I am an Oregon fan. But I love college football. Hate how the Big10/SEC have been ruining the sport. I miss the Pac 12. The talk was that playing all of these new teams would be exciting... they are not. Its different when you've been playing the same teams for years and years. We expand to 12 and the SEC is whining about not getting 5th team in. The bloated Big10 has led to poor scheduling. The lack of a true post-season until now has been one of the major downfalls of this sport.

[@mynumberoneguy]

SEC and B1G 10 has all the power and leverage. When you're in control it's not whining. It's taking control of your own destiny. The NFL model is about 4 years out tops. They'll probably take 8 more teams to make it 40 schools. RIP all the other conferences

[@Br0ku]

@ sucks because I don’t really like the NFL like that. I mostly only watch the playoffs. I really hope college can maintain its separation. The day the regular season ceases to matter is the day I cease to be a hardcore fan.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@mynumberoneguy - You are a Core-Otter-Clam-Kim-Smith-United-Crayon-Korea-England-Rochester for enabling this! I Harvest-Oral-Penelope-Elixir someone Bounce-Elastic-Astronaut-Texan-Swan you to Dance-Eddie-Acclimatization-Torn-Heat!

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

The stupid networks are to be blamed the most for OVERPAYING these conferences more money than they are worth!

[@CarlaJenkinsTV]

You can always return the $30 million half share and get paid $10 million in the PAC-12. Good riddance.

[@kingsgambit7734]

Just let them! Tired of the rhetoric where you have to kowtow to them or they will take the ball and go home. JUST GO ALREADY cry babies.

[@jkh2180]

Why would they create their own playoff when they already control the CFP? Are people paying attention? The SEC and Big 10 have every spot in the top 7 right now (Notre Dame is basically a member). They have 10 of the top 11 spots. Teams like BYU and SMU have far better resumes than teams above them and are being held down. Indiana is undefeated and 5th while Army is undefeated and 19th and they've basically played the same level of opponent, both schedules are trash. Even the back half of the CFP has multiple SEC/Big 10 teams to swap positions with the next one to falter. They already control the CFP.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Yet, they still whine about not having things go their way when it comes to playoff seeding!

[@RavenThom]

resume's??? colorado hasn't beaten a decent team all yr, if they beat byu , they get the 4 seed?????/ what games are you watching

[@Alan-lv9rw]

College football was better 50 years ago.

[@vistatiger7493]

Bye! Play with yourselves. Fans will soon bore of that.

[@kevinbond8966]

Fans wouldn't get bored with an SEC and BIG 10 league 🤣

[@MrJara1018]

Georgia vs Bama this year was an amazing game, Ohio State Oregon game was a classic…….. I’d never get bored of that….

[@justryanism]

Remember when Tulane co-founded the SEC?

[@joshahlstrom2764]

I’m all for the SEC and Big10 creating their own playoff, they clearly don’t want to play against anyone else anyways.

[@heartbreak25]

PSU scheduled a back to back with WVU. Illinois scheduled a back to back with Kansas. Nebraska scheduled a back to back with Colorado. What else do you want?

[@joshahlstrom2764]

@ that’s cool, but when it comes to the playoffs the good will ends with them, and they don’t want the other conferences involved. They should just end the charade, break off from the rest already. It’s what they truly want at the end of the day.

[@bryanjones8778]

Me, too. I hope they separate altogether and take this cr@ppy system of pay-for-play NIL and the unlimited transfer portal with them. The rest of the schools can form their own league with a regulated NIL and transfer setup. It would sure be a lot more fun, even if much of the top talent went to the Big Ten and SEC to play semi-pro ball.

[@heartbreak25]

@@joshahlstrom2764 The Big 12 literally had BYU and Iowa State controlling their playoff destiny a couple of weeks ago. How did the SEC and B1G force them to lose to bad teams? Who forced Colorado to get blown out by Nebraska?

[@joshahlstrom2764]

@@heartbreak25 you’re missing the point entirely. The SEC and Big 10 don’t want to be affiliated with the Big 12 or ACC AT ALL. An ideal world for them is a 12 team playoff of only big 10 and SEC teams. They have all the power, other conferences are helpless before them, just break away. Let the other conferences not have to worry about constantly having their teams poached or being discluded from the yearly invitational.

[@abefrohammer3105]

If i were the bottom half of both those leagues I'd be side eyeing. They must know that they eventually will be screwed when there is nobody left to whine about.

[@joe_zeay]

Uga plays UMass this week. Win and it doesnt deserve any high placement than Indiana even after a 1st loss to OhioSt

[@RavenThom]

Ga. beat Clemson, Tenn., Ole Miss. All better than any 1 of indy's wins

[@joe_zeay]

@RavenThom you must not watch football not this year.. Georgia Lost To Ole Miss by a blowout

[@Cws7187]

This would kill their own popularity within 10 years

[@haroldflashman4687]

No they won’t! Look up the fan numbers of their members. They’ll quite valuable on their own!

[@Cws7187]

@ if I want a two conference league with the best of the best I will watch the nfl. This is a dumb long term move

[@haroldflashman4687]

@ watch the NFL. SEC/B1G with ND and the top 4 ACC brands account for 70%+ of the total CFB fanbase. Losing you (and others like you) as a fan won’t affect SEC/B1G in the least!

[@stevemoserify]

@@haroldflashman4687 Are you serious? If the NFL wanted, they could schedule Saturday doubleheaders and CRUSH your shitty little two conference model

[@haroldflashman4687]

@ ok and? The NFL could do that now too. So I don’t see your point.

[@TKrakowski1]

Indiana played a big 10 schedule. And they have one of the weakest schedules in college football. The difference is they are destroying weak opponents, while the rest of the big 10 are playing .500 against the same schedule.

[@frostymug3123]

I'm an Oregon fan, I don't want anything to do with ESPN or the SEC. Let the SEC do their own thing.

[@g.holland4862]

You’re wrong about who started conference realignment. The Big 8 started it when they created the first “super conference” called the Big 12.

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

That only happened because the SEC took Arkansas from the SWC. Which eventually killed that conference.

[@GoHawgs1987]

@g.holland4862 Arkansas and South Carolina started conference realignment as we know it today. Them coming to the SEC allowed for the domino that became a conference championship game. It also effectively killed the Southwest Conference and the Metro Conference. You could say the mass exodus of the Big 12 in 2011 blew it up, but that 1992 move started the ball rolling and killed two conferences. It was Florida State and Texas the SEC wanted originally, but they said no.

[@SurfCityBill]

Let the SEC and Big Ten create their own playoff. They can also schedule all their conference and non-conference games between each other. Big 12, ACC, and all Group of 6 conferences should just refuse to play any of those teams.

[@DanDiplock]

Very well done.

[@noelramirez1551]

Josh Pate is so annoying.

[@charlesvorones3612]

Exactly. His endless excuses for overrated brand name teams is disgusting.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Then Diet-Onion-Xylophone the Core-Otter-Clam-Kim-Smith-United-Crayon-Korea-England-Rochester!

[@kevinbond8966]

​@@charlesvorones3612Do you even watch Josh Pate?

[@danz1182]

Most SEC fans would agree with you on Texas. They are number 3 because when they were #1 they lost to a UGA team that was 4 or 5 at the time so they only slid a little. They should be ranked below Georgia because they have not beaten any of the top 10 SEC teams. Wherever UGA is, Texas should be next. But that does not make Indiana make sense. Their non-conference opponents were Charlotte, FIU, and Western Illinois. They have beaten one team with a winning record. If they play Ohio State close they should stay in, but if they lose by 3+ scores how can you defend that resume?

[@CouzsCornerSports]

Love the new background brother.

[@blackllamasociety9123]

Also this Big 10+/ SEC only conference is just a matter of time, they’re just trying to figure out the Anti-Trust lawsuits. The last 10 years it’s been a Solution looking for a Problem or Hegelian Dialectic

[@chucky0034]

LOL, Poor SEC the ones playing only 8 Conference games and a cupcake in November with overinflatted rankings in preseason (Shouldn't be rankings until week 3 or 4 IMO) and week 1.

[@Ace-mw9pm]

Northwestern, Michigan st, Maryland, and Purdue might as well be G5 schools this year the way they’re playing. Unlike bottom tier SEC schools they don’t even put up a fight they just get blown out every game. The bottom of the SEC Auburn, Florida, Arkansas, Kentucky, MS State, Vandy, Oklahoma at least they keep it close most games and sometimes they even beat ranked teams.

[@chucky0034]

@Ace-mw9pm "Sometimes they beat ranked teams" just like any G5 or other than 5. Let's not forget that the SEC as a "whole" rarely and I mean, rarely travels to another P5's Conferences turf (Florida last year 1st time since the 80s went to Utah, ESPN during the broadcast said we won't see this again for 20 years.) They hide behind Neutral Site games in Atlanta LOL 😆.

[@Ace-mw9pm]

@@chucky0034 and those P5 schools would not go to a home game in an SEC stadium. So what of it?

[@chucky0034]

@Ace-mw9pm 😆 🤣 you serious!? How old are you? You sure about that? Google is your friend before you fall on that.

[@Ace-mw9pm]

@@chucky0034 if they do it’s low ranking P4 schools looking for a paycheck. You got Notre Dame trying to fill out a schedule because they don’t have a conference. Alabama went to Wisconsin that’s a P4 school.

[@mikejohnson-cw3ol]

I think it's heading for a format like high school playoffs in KS, ...the top 32 teams will be seeded and the higher seed gets the home game(s) and the Final 4 will be at a neutral site and the Title game will played the week before the Superbowl

[@RavenThom]

seed properly don't give every conf a bye

[@DK-hg7wj]

Texas has the 38th SOS and SOR that is 5th. So comparing Indianas schedule to Texas is asinine.

[@joe_zeay]

Texas best wins are Vandy and Arkansas by 10pts...😂 They are garbage

[@joe_zeay]

Uga plays UMass this week. Win and it doesnt deserve any high placement than Indiana even after a loss to OhioSt

[@DK-hg7wj]

​@@joe_zeay Oh you mean the same "garbage" team that ran through the Big 12 and then went to the SEC with the Big 12 title?? Or is it the same "garbage" team that has the 4th highest margin of victory in all of college football? Or is it the same garbage team that is allowing the fewest yards per play in all of college football? Maybe pull your head out of your ass and do the slightest amount of research before you start running your mouth.

[@DK-hg7wj]

​@@joe_zeay Well let's look at Texas shall we? 4th highest margin of victory in all of college football 1st in fewest yards per play allowed Most defensive interceptions in the SEC 5th in interceptions per game 23rd in turnover margin at +0.7 11th in points per game To this point their combined opponent record is 53-47, while not the most impressive, it's still a winning record. Did you forget that Vandy beat Alabama and Arkansas beat Tennessee? Both of those happened on the road for TN and Bama. Guess what Texas did, went on the road and beat both of those teams.

[@joe_zeay]

@@DK-hg7wj other than losing to Uga, look who've they played! Monroe, Utsa, col st, Ky, ark, MissSt, FL... all cupcake schedule to say the least. God help them if they lose to A&M also cuz theyll drop like a load of bricks

[@williamallen63]

Since most of the NIL revenue is within the Big 10 and SEC they are essentially semi-pro. So the NCAA needs to break into two with a Semi-pro league and an all others league. I realize NIL money is not provided by the schools, but I'm sure that they'll come up with, hopefully, legislation by the states.

[@stephensherer1326]

What would Tennessee record be in the Big 12 this season? Unless a huge upset, they would have went 9-0 in that conference. I think we need to go to 16 teams, top 8 get home field and take the top 16 no auto qualifiers.

[@HoustonCougarsGermany]

Tennessee in BIG12 this year: .500, at best

[@duckmcnutty]

The Texas thing will work itself out. If they win out, then your argument is no longer valid.

[@angelsaulovelazquez3232]

They will lose a lot of viewers, I only watch B10/SEC games because they are interconnected to my league and team.

[@kshay1882]

Let's not forget that FSU was left out last year with a perfect record. Perfect doesn't make you the best. They have tried 2x to put a teams in that were a disaster. TCU and Cincinnati were a disaster!! It's not only the SEC complaining, can't explain the ranking with SMU?

[@spencerhiginbotham7538]

When the way things used to be, half the teams wouldn't have a chance to win the national championship even if they went undefeated, and now you're whining that conference championships don't matter enough because all they do is give you a first round bye? I guess that's all the SEC has to whine about, and they have to whine about something.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Can't wait till Texas turns the SEC into the Big 12, or better yet, the Southwest!

[@CarlaJenkinsTV]

Explain how the SEC complaining about their rankings would have any impact on the Big 10? The ranked Big 10 teams aren't losing to unranked competition. The SEC ranked teams are. ESPN has a dude on its hands with the SEC. The end.

[@gregoryc.pyperjr.4147]

It's time to go to the big super conference where we have small divisions of like 8 schools. Win your division and then you're in the playoff that is expanded with some simple tie breakers for seeding. Then when the Big 10 and SEC don't want to play ball and join the rest of the teams, the Big12, ACC, MW and American sue them for anti-trust violations funded by the PE firms who have way more money than those two conferences to win those cases.

[@johndotter351]

Hope Indiana takes it all in the BIG-10!

[@bobpool6636]

Only 8 of 18 teams of B10 teams have a winning record, but have 4 in top 5? Something does not add up!!! SEC should bring in 18 cupcakes like from PAC? SOR?SOS does n't matter!!

[@blackllamasociety9123]

The BigXYZ is inferior to the Big 12 top to bottom after you throw out Oregon

[@MrJara1018]

Texas win against Vandy -not good Bama loss against Vandy- meh

[@pnwadventurer802]

TX is ranked to high, Missouri is only ranked to help prop up the SEC SOS

[@RavenThom]

b12 and acc don't belong , not 1 team is top 1o talent

[@joshleyva2249]

Yeah all of the stuff that made college football fun is gone. It used to be about school pride and rivalries and now it's all about getting that almighty TV dollar. Outside of my team I don't care what happens in college football anymore.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Start a movement people, and not just tell the SEC and B1G to go Food-Under-Car-Keys themselves, but to make sure that 4/5 star high school football players do NOT attend an SEC and B1G university no matter what!

[@rickbarry1969]

Texas and OU came to the SEC and asked to join. The SEC did not pursue them.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

The SEC could have also told them to Food-Under-Car-Keys off! PS - Texas is already beginning to ruin the SEC the same way they ruined the Southwest!

[@earnestpeeplesjr8948]

Yes, they did. In 2011, when Mizzou, CU, A&M, & Nebraska left. The SEC spoke and wanted Texas & OU

[@wetblanket1977]

To be fair to arkansas, petrino is their oc at the moment

[@jefflane617]

None of the P5 have any decent scheduling. While it didn't happen the SEC could have had 3 undefeated seasons. BIG 10 could have had 3 as well. I believe the ACC and BIG 12 as well. I view the "issues" these conferences are having are their own faults. There are ways to arrange the schedule to make if very likely only the conference champion can claim they are the best in their conference. Back testing to 1980 I believe, 12 teams is enough if you limit the amount of teams a conference can get in. It is enough for every team to control its own destiny (assuming the conferences don't sabotage their teams and wine about it later while blaming the system for their own faults). It is also large enough to allow teams with a loss due to tough schedule and one bad day in as well.

[@TheLAGopher]

The Big Ten isn’t running down other leagues to make the case for 4 of its teams getting in the playoff. BTW if 6-4 Minnesota that has beaten than 11th ranked USC and 22 ranked Illinois ( still ranked at 23) would that mean a 7-4 Golden Gophers team that would certainly get into the top 25, be a “Bad Big Ten Team” fifth in the Conference with 3 win over ranked teams if they beat a 4th ranked Penn State?

[@davidbradham3515]

you can only beat those on your schedule. Just ask 1984 BYU team, they didn't play anyone either. i don't believe the 5th or 6th place team in ANY league should be in the playoffs

[@Drew-dy4hc]

We just get tired of giving charity money to inferior conferences

[@TexasisConferenceCancer]

🙄

[@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0]

A bit like the english did with their first division soccee in the 90s

[@rouse196]

Also, Hoosiers by 20+

[@MeowMix598]

All other teams should not schedule any games vs the Big 10 and Sec

[@TheLAGopher]

Where is the Big Ten complaining about its title game losing its importance?

[@petewilcox3354]

Why cant we just let every $EC in the playoffs? Problem solved

[@danjohnson8556]

So allowing two or three spots is too much for them.

[@DevilTX66]

You call Penn St a cream puff eater and leave out Alabama? Seriously?

[@hollywood2606]

If the whiny SEC does this good luck. Who gone want to watch the same shit rinse and repeat every year SEC fans might love this but the rest of the country want. So form your own league it will be a disaster you might own the mason dixie line but thats about it

[@Shaunskee]

The SEC has let the BIG 10 ride there coat tails... Because of the threat for the 2 conferences to leave and do there own thing!?!?!? Now the SEC is trying to burn Indiana (BIG 10) for a fifth team in the CFP!!! The SEC will burn anyone to get what they want lmfao 😂😂😂

[@audreycrowe1780]

All part of the plan.

[@cfb1923]

People can be so ugly. Why not just cheer for Indiana the underdog and see how far they can go? If Indiana loses and is out then how come Ohio state isn't out already? It's this name brand BS when really all of life is a what have you done for me lately business

[@rouse196]

SEC = the new ACC

[@SenorHomeslice]

“Key wins: Vanderbilt and Arkansas.” Since there aren’t many SEC guys here, allow me to respond on their behalf. Ahem…. VaNdY wOuLd WiN yOuR cOnFeReNcE!!!!!?!!-!!!spittle!!! So somehow Arkansas being marginally-if-at-all better than Texas Tech, Georgia Tech, or Illinois makes all the difference in the world. It doesn’t, but somehow it does.

[@Raging_Storm405]

lol sure they can. Arkansas lost to Oklahoma State.

[@americanhero1234]

You are obsessed with the SEC dude we don't care about them.

[@americanhero1234]

Dude we don't care if they leave we got coach prime....stop giving the sec space to live in your dam head!!!

[@RavenThom]

coach prime has yet to beat a decent team

[@grobble8954]

The whiniest league in college football is the Little 12 and you prove it with every video. The Little 12 is a conference of recent G5's and former power conference schools that nobody wanted, FYI, I hate the SEC. but the Little 12's whining is another level.

[@RavenThom]

Acc is always Given " rankings, Clemson, Fla St was ranked 10 this yr the whole div sucks

[@chrysarreola5902]

First

[@spencerhiginbotham7538]

"How is a 2-loss team ranked behind an undefeated team? We want five teams in the playoff instead of 4." Stop it.

[@Grymmatic]

Barely beating Michigan was a pretty big red flag for Indiana.

[@jrab7215]

Ohio state barely beat Nebraska at home? Big red flag? U logic is crap

[@RavenThom]

problem is they don't take the 12 best , and it's ok to give automatics, but to put BYU or god forbid Colorado in as a 4 seed is stupid! Why should they get a bye and Ohio St, or Oregon have to play a play in game? Line the 12 up IN ORDER!

[@TexasisConferenceCancer]

Why give the best teams a buy? If they are as good as their ranking they shouldn't need a buy. Expand to 16, no one gets a buy. Make the brackets a draw rather than some bias selection committee...

[@ARMY-ep6fz]

It won't happen, but to pretend this isn't the best two conferences Is delusional. How many championships just in the SEC?

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

They ain't the two best conferences when it comes to GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP, you whining Can-Unity-Nitro-Taco!

[@ARMY-ep6fz]

@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 like I said, how many titles? My team Alone probably has more than your whole conference.

[@ARMY-ep6fz]

@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 its not sportsmanship, its math. If two conferences have the most championships, then they're the best two conferences. There's no denying that, and the crying about it is weak as fk

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@ARMY-ep6fz - Doesn't matter how many titles they have. The fact you people are complaining about Indiana is reason enough you Dawn-Eileen-Sally-Erin-Ronnie-Veronica-Elisha to have a Remington 840 Model through your Swap-Keillor-Upon-Like-Legend with Cavity-Hold-Uncertain-Niagara-Ken-Sob of Butch-Rinse-Avocado-Intermission-Nuisance flying all over the place!

[@tarheel7406]

@@ARMY-ep6fz "If two conferences have the most championships, then they're the best two conferences." Over the past 25 years (or this century) and adjusting for realignment, the ACC has 5 football nattys while the B1G has 4.

[@horizonchaser6030]

Everyone was SO THRILLED happy about the 12 team playoff. I just laughed knowing the CRYING, WHINING and FINGERPOINTING would increase 12 fold. lol Go ahead and Load up the playoffs with 2 & 3 loss SEC...Same Shyte, Different Day.

[@RavenThom]

watch who wins the playoffs

[@horizonchaser6030]

@@RavenThom If you're referencing the SEC should have more spots in playoffs, Hmm I'm not really debating that, SEC is strongest Conference although this year does close the gap to how much, I'm addressing the acrobatic debates of not going with straight Win/Loss and the fact Win/Loss isn't that CONVINCING in SEC this year. ie Texas. Thats all. I"m a College Football Fan, I'm looking Forward to seeing how this 12 team system plays out, I'm sure great football to come. I'm thinking Georgia/Oregon Natty.

[@heartbreak25]

Tony Pettiti hasn't said a word about the playoffs so far. Why you guys are reaching to put the B1G in the SEC mess is beyond me. Pettiti wants to see every commissioner upset so you'll reconsider his 4/4/2/2/1/1 proposal which you all hated initially. I bet the ACC and Big 12 would love to have your conference title participants guaranteed a spot and for the rest of your members to compete for a wild card spot now, huh?

[@ryanthomas887]

That’s not what Sankey wants. He believes the SEC should have 8 spots. Funny how ND is announcing series with Alabama, Texas, Arkansas, and other SEC schools within the last few weeks. Sankey is going to end up pulling 8 schools from the ACC after ESPN nixes the ACC deal in February and giving ND a scheduling agreement. He’ll lock the B1G out of the South Atlantic and deny the B1G of ND. Petitti and the B1G presidents are pretty naive if they think they can trust Sankey. The SEC only respects Ohio State in the B1G and nobody else.

[@ryanthomas887]

The point is Petitti has no real power either. ESPN controls the SEC and ACC and wants to maintain its monopoly. Sankey is happy to be the Mouse’s bitch. ESPN is going to do its best to lock Fox out of the South East and Texas. The only way Pettiti is getting in there is by partnering with the Big 12 and any ACC survivors. Sankey will stab Petitti in the back like he did Bowlsby. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.