Depressed woman hated the husband and son all her life and ended up completely alone in her old age

[@anonymoususer9079]

I dont think you guys understood Olive's character at all. It's chronic depression and it's hidden her case. There's a point during it, that becomes so unbearable that you become bitter, rude to everyone else , even to your family, you can't even stand yourself alone. It's shown in her ways of taking full care of her husband when she can just divorce, appreciating him in his most vulnerable state in his life (remember, a true person's colours are shown when you notice how they treat you when they don't need you for anything at all), also shown in the part where she just exists because her dog was depending on her, otherwise she would've off'd herself long ago. It's a misunderstood character. A pity. Edit: just noticed the description, i wrote all the above without knowing there's an author who already says she has chronic depression. I wanted to add that the author pictured the life of someone living with chronic depression perfectly. I have never seen anything more accurate. Congratulations, its a piece of art.

[@arzelzon1137]

Glad someone get it. 👏

[@ellaveldje7125]

And is sad !! This is why people with depressions are misunderstood

[@illbeyourstumbleine]

Very well said. Sadly for people like Olive they think because they’re not a physically abusive drunk like one or both of their parents, that means they’re a good parent to their own kids. We have all heard parents like this go “you think I’m so mean and you have it so hard, my dad only talked to me when he was drunk and yelling while beating us” They’re very hardened people, and in a way it’s not their fault. I am so thankful to my mother. Her parents were awful to her and unlike her sister, she broke that cycle. She was kind, funny, smart, and giving to a fault. Sadly life isn’t fair and we lost her at only 44 while her own mother sat “stoically” in the front row, never cried one tear. She’s gone now too, I would say resting in peace but we all know there’s no rest for the wicked! Again, your explanation was spot on, thank you.

[@somethingclever8916]

Mental illness is valid. But so is treatment. Imagine saying "but there are drug addict. They aren't responsible. We need to accept and support their addiction" Have patents with MH issues as do I. What's next we excuse psychopathic behavior? DV?

[@AndrewBarsky]

I understood the character and I also understand what it’s like to be severely depressed. Her character wasn’t unlikable because she was depressed. She was unlikable because she did absolutely nothing to try and fix the problem. When people around you care about you, they will put up with a lot. It’s your responsibility to attempt to accept the situation and try to better yourself. When I hit rock bottom, I took some time to realize how I was creating hell for myself and everyone around me. It’s easy to hide your suffering when your line of work is teaching, children bring genuine happiness. People will tolerate you if you recognize the problem and try to fix it. As someone who has been through it, I become infuriated if people choose to forever wallow in self pity. She wasn’t an “abusive drunk” but it would almost make it easier to deal with because you could blame the booze and”sickness.” She was an emotional train wreck who emotionally abused others by her presence alone. Assaulting her grown up son and crying at the dinner table in front of guest isn’t “normal.” But everyone around her was too afraid of agitating her. Aka (perhaps unintentional but probably not) emotional abuse. Depression is a reason, not an excuse. Being “stoic” just means you’re an uptight asshole who buries their feelings. She just wasn’t a very good person.

[@aliway4136]

I loved my mother with all my heart but I don't think she felt the same. She was a lot like this woman. Completely and totally emotionally unavailable.

[@HaveANiceTrip02]

My mom is the exact same. She does not believe in mental health in regards to herself. As an adult i went no contact for a couple years. Once i was ready we slowly started talking again. I've learned she wont change and if i want a relationship with her, i have to literally ignore the bad/ mean behavior

[@nivaparia8837]

Well my father is like that . But it gets worse he's not just emotionally unavailable he is mentally abusive. He'd come to a calm home & start verbally abusing people close to you & taunting you , if you end up reacting he'd remind you whose house you live in . And all that when my mother has a job & contributes too & she's the one that looked after me all my life in every way . Can't imagine how worse it would be if he was the sole earner . When he's ill or has any problems everyone must tend to him . When someone else is ill it's an inconvenience for him . Would call everyone mad when he's the one acting up most of the times & agitating others . These kind of people will suck your life force till they live . They don't appreciate what they have . You must be perfect & successful at all times . If you are not he's unable to brag about it .I'm convinced the only way to save yourself from such people is to run far far away from them .

[@tablescissors]

@@nivaparia8837 sounds very narcissistic, I’m sorry

[@nevereverforever0010-uf9su]

yup

[@illbeyourstumbleine]

Olive was my grandma Judith. So thankful to my mother for breaking that cycle, her sister wasn’t able to, but I’m happy to say her daughter/my cousin did❤ Very proud of them, it’s a very are cycle to break. To be a loving, respectful, nonjudgmental parent that you never had. So very thankful for my momma, I miss her everyday ❤

[@kayt7059]

What a sad and bitter way to live.

[@dawgboyz24]

Olive is the worst kind of villain 🦹‍♀️. Always disappointed , upset, and mad. Everything is a negative environment. That’s cancerous

[@monie948]

True

[@kcbh24]

She's not a villain. Some people are born finding life unbearable no matter what they do.

[@dawgboyz24]

@@kcbh24 a villain 🦹‍♀️

[@kcbh24]

@@dawgboyz24 you can repeat yourself all you want but it doesn't make it true. She is an antagonist, not a villain, Ignoramus.

[@dawgboyz24]

@@kcbh24 she only cared about herself and her husband suffered because of it. If she could’ve found the least amount of contempt they could’ve lived happily ever after. Her husband’s misfortune only existed because she was present.

[@shivalishankersharma1562]

Some people enter the room and flood it with negative energy. Thats Olive

[@defeatSpace]

That's you.

[@leah902]

I appreciate this movie. It makes you think about things. How people suffer, how we make ourselves suffer, many times for absolutely no reason. We arent here for long and theres so much to see, i hope we can see the goodness of life and not waste our precious days away

[@jewel65]

Such a good actress!

[@princess_zemirah213]

Why is she getting the sympathy? No one feels sympathy for the husband and son who were hated for years?

[@dm-hn2wt]

She was probably a mental patient...

[@samrhee3880]

I see your point completely, and I’ve certainly distanced myself from people like that, but as I get older, I’m understanding that people who seem to be really comfortable being rude, blunt, or even mean often have extremely miserable lives. And in this case, it’s clearly showing a case of chronic depression, I liked that this movie didn’t solve anything or that it glorified or justified her behavior. She suffered for her actions immediately and completely. But it’s just a portrait of someone with a chemical imbalance leading to severe chronic depression.

[@princess_zemirah213]

@@samrhee3880 then she shouldn’t have gotten married or had children. Save them the misery.

[@raeraebadfingers]

​@@princess_zemirah213maybe she wasn't chronically depressed then. The fuck. What a stupid thing to say.

[@somethingclever8916]

White women have privilege

[@crabstick250]

Frances is such a good actress. Upsetting story.

[@ViralCog]

Olive sees people for who they are. But she doesn't have to be so crude to her family. She made her family miserable.

[@lsd938]

Same... my mum just had anger... no other emotions... my parents have cheated on each other... but they are still together...

[@arimax888]

Gosh this was so depressing mainly because this is real life not sci fiction. This was set at a time before the term postpartum depression was known & women were left to fend for themselves or called "hysterical"!!! Nowadays we can all relate to her because we all either face or know people struggling with MH issues

[@mmmuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiirrrrr]

"Voluntarily pass away" I know brilliance when I hear it.

[@crempuii]

I know someone who is exactly like olive,they feel powerful and secured in their bitterness and always want to be different thinker in every situation.They are the most toxic people who see themselve as a strong special person and everyone is stupid.

[@VanityDivined]

I’d say to tell them anonymously, but you don’t know what they’ll do

[@defeatSpace]

You come off like a Grade-A narcissist.

[@Ad_Astra2023]

So this is about a man who doesn’t try to understand his own wife’s depression but goes a long way to care for another young woman’s grief, and in result, his wife gets even more unhappy.

[@TruckieLooks4Aliens]

False. He understands it perfectly. Everything he did shows he understands it. He stays with her and doesn’t get upset at her whenever she’s being unbearable. And ur not thinking about the time period when this takes place. What I find most egregious about people is that ppl always expect the “mentally, emotionally & often healthier” person to always “understand” the other. My parents and I got into this when I was in my 20s bc of my sisters chronic depression/manic disorder. It was always “be nice, understand her, be patient,” bc she can’t help it. They coddled her and excused her abhorrent behavior. There were times I wish she’d follow thru with her threats. I told them that everyone always uses her mental issue as an excuse for her to be abusive and the people who suffer around her are consistently getting hurt. I was consistently left behind, not paid attention to even tho I had been the perfect child. I did what the son did. Not once did my sister nor my parents stop to think about the issues that I was having. Like being racially bullied at school. I left my home at 15 and never asked for anything. In college, my $600 Bio book/lab were stolen. I called them for the 1st time & asked them for $ to help me buy another but again, they’d just given my sister rent and a car bc she has an illness. My point is, ur blaming the husband who clearly tolerated and loved her when no one else could even stand her yet u don’t think about how much loneliness he suffered and grief he went thru alone bc she was always depressed. She knew her parents had history of depression and yet she did nothing about it. She also had an affair yet u blame him bc a complete opposite person comes into his life and made him feel special for once. Not even sexually. I watched the series and he wanted so bad just to be liked. Olive never tried. I will NEVER be in a relationship with a person who thinks loving someone thru thick and thin, sickness and health equates that to: I can get fat or lazy or do drugs or jobless or depressed for as long as I want and if u don’t stay- u never loved me. My life minutes the matter too, No. If u love someone, both have to try. Olive only tried when he couldn’t do anything. He was super depressed when he died.

[@Ad_Astra2023]

@@TruckieLooks4Aliens I’m sorry that happened to you and your family, but you seemed to have forgotten that this is not about your specific situation, but just a movie. And there is no “false or truth” like a simple answer either. Unless you wrote this movie scenario. I also don’t think the wife in this movie was that spoilt as I see her keeping her silence, she did make a few mistakes but who doesn’t? I didn’t think she used her depression as a weapon to anyone. On the other hand, the other young woman in grief was overwhelmingly emotional, yes, she was grieving, but it looked like she was a bit over the top. People often forget every one in the family is human just because they’re your mum or dad or a sister, and what are family for? To be there for each other. I saw plenty of scenes of the husband guy coddling the young widow, but not so much for his own wife. If you can coddle a stranger like that, why not your own wife? And yes, he did stay. Did he stay for his wife? Or was it for both of them? I’ve been married for 21 years, and if there’s one thing I learned, marriage isn’t one way. I couldn’t stay with a man who’d care for a complete stranger and decides to ignore my, or our problem. If one of two is unhappy, that becomes a problem for both in marriage.

[@SimonetteNikola]

This is what happen when you dont heal your inner child

[@margaretdownie4407]

Some people just don't know how to be happy or just being content

[@leeanneyoungman8028]

I think people like Olive need to do every one a favour and go to a place to relearn how to be happy, or at least content. Even being content needs to be learnt…😊

[@soyadavis9362]

Olive had a chronic depression because she was never grateful to her good husband and son. She'd believed that she would only be happy with her lover and no one else. She threw all her hate, disgust, contempt at her family because she felt like she deprived herself of her own happiness because of them. For me, my sympathy goes to the good husband and son that were both maltreated by Olive who only loved her lover more than them.

[@slainemccool2875]

The worst kind of person has to make everybody else suffer with her

[@Wodenseyes]

I suffer from bipolar disorder and I have some hallucinations when I get too manic. My mania causes me to stay awake for 4-7 days and I’ll see what looks like television static all over, or ants marching in line. I remember seeing this movie and thinking about how much worse my condition could be. And I worry that it’s going to get bad like these people.

[@1marcelfilms]

schizotube

[@raeraebadfingers]

Weird question.. is it black and white static or colorful? It's really strange never seen anyone ever say that

[@Wodenseyes]

@@raeraebadfingers colorful. Almost impossible to explain. It was like the color of whatever I was looking at just with static over it too

[@raeraebadfingers]

@@Wodenseyes okay I understand that then! Years ago I told my eye doctor I see rainbow static sometimes. And they said that wasn't possible so I never talked to anyone else about it and just assumed i was nuts 🤷🏻‍♀️ But I know EXACTLY what you mean! Edit: when I said rainbow static, I forgot to mention that is only when I am either on my back looking at the clouds or stars, or when I close my eyes 😅

[@nikig2891]

Of course she was a math teacher.

[@tesselaynes5428]

Imagine how her kids in class felt. She shouldnt have been a teacher.

[@halyketarrant]

Frances McDormand is incredible. Also, the two books of Olive Kitteridge are sad, but great.

[@tiffybnTN]

Damn 😢 this was deep I’ll have to watch

[@ashiff7781]

Olive is difficult but at least she is transparent true to herself

[@rosihantu1]

Being true to yourself is one of the worst advice in life.

[@LiamBrannelly]

The book this is based on is AMAZING, too!!

[@anneallen5165]

Depression has many faces. Olive never dealt with her depression and it made her life so miserable and sad.

[@tammywheetley2384]

This looks like a real good movie...

[@HaveANiceTrip02]

Mental health is such a draining thing to deal with. You can very easily be swept away by your brain. Developing proper coping skills is very important. If you suffer from delusions journaling can be helpful. If you suffer from hallucinations investing in a pet can help ease anxiety and determine what is real or not. Local counties should have a government run facility if you are in need of help. I first got help with my local clinic as well. Easier than using a doctor where sometimes you need a referral.

[@jesussaves1827]

Turn to Jesus He loves you, He is the healer of the body And savior of the soul, There is True Hope in Jesus, God protects Psalms 91, He is the God of miracles Acts 2:21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved Jesus alone saves Trust Him with your salvation John 3:16 1 Corinthians 15 1-4 Moreover Brethren, i declare unto you the gospel which i preached unto you, which also ye have received, and with wherein ye stand By which also ye are saved, if you keep in memory what i preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain, For i delivered unto you first of all that which i also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures And that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures, Take care

[@somethingclever8916]

I agree mental illness is valid but so is treatment and therapy.

[@brandy4250]

Just, ugh. Pass.

[@AXELRAPUNZEL]

The wife in this story is insufferable.

[@Kevo7979]

Okay, this is by far most depressing movie I've ever seen....

[@Kimberly0Kendell]

it must be so hard to have a miserable partner...why didn't the man divorce that woman? why some ppl don't leave partners like that??

[@kellyryan3886]

It's really just a story about a normal person's life. Nothing spectacular. Seems like my life (except I'm not a cheater). So, moral of the story, don't cheat?

[@VanityDivined]

Why wasn’t it called Henry Kitteridge? Idgaf about Olive. Fitting since she doesn’t care about anyone either Edit: I get it. It’s about the pov of a narcissist

[@linchen008]

She cared about her husband and her son. But I think she had untreated depression what made her unable to feel positive about life. It's like always having a kind of suffering.

[@Lifeof3L]

Jim did not need to die 😢that was olive’s life s

[@jujubees5855]

Olive Kitteridge

[@jane-cn6nd]

What is the name of the movie?

[@SjofnBM1989]

It's a tv miniseries called Olive Kitterage.

[@jane-cn6nd]

@@SjofnBM1989 Thank you 😊

[@JellyBean-oj3vj]

This scene was a ad 12:51

[@raeraebadfingers]

It was sad or it was an ad?

[@afiaagyeiwaa2175]

lol I like Olive. Everyone seems fake but her.

[@ananyabhagat7052]

Are you okay? I'm genuinely asking.

[@afiaagyeiwaa2175]

@@ananyabhagat7052 lmaoooo😂😂😂😂😂

[@aplum4218]

Bitter, angry and alone. Mad at the world for the decisions you made.....smh!

[@afiaagyeiwaa2175]

@@aplum4218 calm down bucko, it’s really not that deep🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@somethingclever8916]

She needs therapy Shes a cautionary tale of embracing your mental illness, taking it out on others and doing nothing about it.

[@beasaroseco5840]

The actor who plays Jerry looks familiar. I can't remember where I have seen him before.🤔

[@TYL110]

Disney channel

[@koryngalen6228]

@@TYL110Todd from breaking bad

[@jayduke8554]

Cheery flick🤮

[@AndrewBarsky]

“Voluntarily pass away.” Bro she was about to commit SUICIDE. Just because you change the name of the condition that doesn’t mean you change the condition. Carlin said this long ago. You’re taking the life out of language. Ironically “voluntarily passing away” the English language 🙄

[@HarriedPedestrian]

KZbin can take it down if you use the s word. It’s the same reason people are using “unalive”.

[@AndrewBarsky]

@@HarriedPedestrian So we just bow down to our corporate overlords and use such language? Didn’t George Orwell write a book or something about this?

[@HarriedPedestrian]

@@AndrewBarsky Dude, I didn’t write those dumb rules. You can say whatever you want, but it will be deleted by KZbin. We have no leverage here.

[@1marcelfilms]

nag nag nag

[@georgesherrill3371]

“…voluntarily pass away”?! She committed suicide, you dork!

[@halyketarrant]

He can’t use such language in KZbin you smartass

[@somethingclever8916]

You tube would demonetize it because adult children will be triggered. Thank the world the celebrates mental illness and doing absolutely nothing about it.

[@GiftSparks]

The word “suicide” is forbidden on youtube if you want to be monetized.

[@arzelzon1137]

thanks for this movie making my existencial crisis beyond existence. 🥲