Johnny Silverhand gives V his body back

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Jyggalag

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@sci-figameguy8241
@sci-figameguy8241 3 жыл бұрын
For everyone who's wondering why V is mad at Johnny for giving the body back, I think it's because V truly started to care for Johnny as Johnny did for him, especially since they were pretty much one in the same. I think V wanted Johnny to live the rest of his life in his body to save him instead in the end in this specific ending.
@TheGeoCheese
@TheGeoCheese Жыл бұрын
Not the actual reason. Johnny Silverhand, relentless rocker boy, finally had no more fight left. She expected him to at least try to fight back but he never did. All he ever really did was just smile and did the one thing that Alt said he was incapable of doing 50yrs ago.
@antonironstag5085
@antonironstag5085 8 ай бұрын
this is my favourite ending. i think somewhere along the line, v didnt want johnny out of his body but to stop the relic from malfunctioning. they really did become friends in the end and v didn't want him to 'die'
@riceballdonut847
@riceballdonut847 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite iteration of this specific scene. I get closure that Johnny 100% ok with dying, and we know that V lives on as a legend.
@xFearGodx
@xFearGodx 9 ай бұрын
It feels bitter. once i was just V, it feels empty without johnny. Plus shes going to die anyways? I get happy endings are cliche, but loosing johnny, V dying and getting broken up with is just a sad painful ending
@Deku20235
@Deku20235 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to give V her body back (female V) she just slowly grabbed Johnny's hand and told Johnny" Don't forget me " and then saying I don't want you dead. Really meaning she wants Johnny to have the body...watered my eyes and went to the well against my own wishes as the player, but I did it for V...
@CaptBirdy
@CaptBirdy 3 жыл бұрын
I wish there could’ve been a thing where you can somehow get Johnny’s body back and have them both be put in/keep their own body and win ig in the end, while also being best buds till the ends of their days because it’s either, - I feel horrible for killing off Johnny and I horribly miss having that voice in my head. OR - I feel bad for stealing V’s body while also feeling bad for Johnny because he’s left in this world that hates him for taking V’s body and he’s in a body he didn’t want to be in since V most likely ends up becoming his friend.
@sparkking5459
@sparkking5459 3 жыл бұрын
U dont really kill johnny u just turn him just like Alt?
@CaptBirdy
@CaptBirdy 3 жыл бұрын
@@sparkking5459 That’s what I meant, but to me it just feels like I’m killing him off.
@ziyuezhang4143
@ziyuezhang4143 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptBirdy It's worse than just killing him. Death means id, ego and superego all went away at once, which is already accepted by human, or any animals, if they are capable of discussing such topic. "Being absorbed" by Alt, means his ego is learned and taken away by Alt, and his id is just, thrown away, dumped into nowhere, and since ego is transformed, Johnny's superego has fallen to void, cause there's no ego to support his superego. Besides, all of this is just for Alt's greater power as AI (and later used on attacking the black wall , in order to take over human society). That's just like Hitler claimed that he had taken away German people's id and replace them with "German" id. The only difference is that, Hitler was not able to entirely get rid of people's id. Just by changing the social condition, it's very easy to recover their id. Those ids were only buried and suppressed by the "German" id. But what Alt can do is absolute, because Johnny is digitalized (although he still want to be a human). That's what makes any one of the choices is sad. You have to let one of the characters be dehumanized and that's all on the players choice. Unless you hate one of them :p
@CaptBirdy
@CaptBirdy 3 жыл бұрын
@@ziyuezhang4143 I liked both of them so yeah, no matter what I chose I was unhappy with the outcome. I just rather have anything then the Arasaka ending tbh, ig. It all really just sucks. :(
@L_Lawliet1907
@L_Lawliet1907 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptBirdy For folks like us? Wrong city, wrong people.
@heyjoji1954
@heyjoji1954 3 жыл бұрын
It really does seem a more fitting reaction of V to beat and yell at him for TAKING his body, not giving it back. Though I guess you can still get pissed cause there’s no point in going back if your doomed to die and your friend can live his life and your friend chose for you to go back instead of themselves Edit: Yup just saw another video where V acted differently I’m assuming it’s according to your relationship with Johnny, promise to take bullet and have a good relationship with him V will want to stay, have a bad one and say you’ll look out for yourself and V would want to go back to his/her body
@attackontitanfollower
@attackontitanfollower Жыл бұрын
The coolest thing about this scene is that I was wearing David Martinez’s coat while doing this and looked exactly like him it was like they both met in cyber space
@vulthurmir2478
@vulthurmir2478 2 жыл бұрын
It really seems like a bug, since V says "I'm in, you're out." Really sounds like this reaction is when Johnny tries to take V's body when the plan was the opposite. Also sounds more rageful than it should be at this level, because I had the same dialogue and I treated Johnny as a human, not just a construct, so they got along better.
@Nonzero14
@Nonzero14 9 ай бұрын
Not a bug. It makes sense.
@FollyPlays
@FollyPlays 3 жыл бұрын
I ended up doing the opposite of this, I'm a little confused why V is so pissed off that you are trying to give him his body back when going across the bridge?
@justincorbett3792
@justincorbett3792 3 жыл бұрын
From what I can understand, V has taken on a lot of Johnny's hot-blooded nature. Also when you're fighting for survival and are basically 2 people at the same time, especially in this situation neither of you wants to die or have to be responsible for the other. As far as I can tell, they both want to save each other. MAYBE in future DLC with this game, it could open up the possibilities of new endings
@FollyPlays
@FollyPlays 3 жыл бұрын
@@justincorbett3792 That makes perfect sense, the Johnny and V dynamic really grew on me as the game progressed
@KingDanikMort
@KingDanikMort 3 жыл бұрын
@@justincorbett3792 man that's why Secret Ending is the best, the one where you go in solo and slay EVERYONE!
@coldfusion1679
@coldfusion1679 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing v get violent with Johnny over it caught me off guard, because he didn’t do that in my ending. He just felt remorseful towards johnny and said he was glad they met. I think it has something to do with the relationship between the two of them, affecting the dialogue.
@michealbadman6411
@michealbadman6411 3 жыл бұрын
Because Johnny Silverhand is going to some weird digital heaven with Alt instead of just trying to survive, V sees that as him dying all over again, both a part of him and his best friend.
@yuhhh8574
@yuhhh8574 2 жыл бұрын
The way I see it is that V is pissed mainly because he probably cared about Johnny and in the situation they were in, but from v’s perspective, him going back to his body is lose lose, he either way dies in 6 months and Johnny goes with alt so at the end they both end up dead
@nervesconcord
@nervesconcord 8 ай бұрын
A lot of people still confused as to why V is angry here. The reason is is that while V initially is distraught and thinks this has been Alt and Johnny's plan all along, he realises it wasn't and comes to terms with the reality of it with the "Seeing as I'm doomed to die, we stick to the plan I gave you - I leave, you stay. Keys to my body are yours." Then when he sees Johnny walking to the bridge his thought process is "Dude wtf, you have a free pass at a new life and you're throwing it away so I can have another 6 months?" Essentially V is saying he wants to sacrifice himself for Johnny, but like Alt says it's Johnny's decision seeing as he has the body at the moment, V can't make him choose anything and so instead he tries to make Johnny pissed off at him so he changes his mind and stays in V's body. That's why the last line V shows his true feelings when he realises nothing will change Johnny's mind with the "Promise me one thing, you won't forget me." It's the ultimate bro ending as far as I'm concerned. * POTENTIAL SPOILERS And hey, if it's true that Mr Blue Eyes is actually an AI controlled human and part of an AI organisation, could be the best ending where V actually gets some incredibly advanced assistance with his issue. I mean the guy is basically this game's Gaunter O'Dimm, with getting mentioned and popping up at different parts of the game, having NPCs mention him in convo, showing up in various scenes, knowing about the relic etc. I personally don't doubt the capabilities of a promise from him.
@Openchipmunk79
@Openchipmunk79 3 жыл бұрын
Wait I’m still confused as to why V gets mad at Johnny for giving him his body back.
@xovben
@xovben 3 жыл бұрын
He was doomed to die
@techlover231
@techlover231 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the upload, I wanted V to get back his body, but I had to reload many times because Johnny ended up taking over. The dialogue options are not straight forward, as if the developers you to have the Johnny takes over V's body ending. I wanted the opposite, for V to return and live out his final days. When V got angry as I approached the bridge, I thought I made a mistake, but that is the way to do it. Thanks for your video tp show how to do this!
@xxfalconxx3990
@xxfalconxx3990 3 жыл бұрын
I’m deciding to give Jonny body or not. What do I choose to be able to keep V
@techlover231
@techlover231 3 жыл бұрын
@@xxfalconxx3990 If you want to keep your physical body, go back to earth, go down the well, it's the area where you sit down to talk with Johnny. If you go fall off the edge of the platform where the bright light is, that means you will join the AI lady Alt and be forever a digital entity. The rule is jumping off the ledge near the bright means no return to body.
@RandomGuy-ci9nt
@RandomGuy-ci9nt Жыл бұрын
Honestly if you were to mix both versions of this ending it would fit more with both the anger and sadness V would feel here
@saghariqbal7607
@saghariqbal7607 2 ай бұрын
I gave v’s body back but i still feel bad for johnny silverhand
@CemGurel-xb3qu
@CemGurel-xb3qu 11 ай бұрын
I think the cannon ending should be they storm arasaka tower theough the front door( dont fear the reaper) then at the last minute johnny forces v to take the pill taking control, saying he knew v would do something stupid then gives v the body.
@sandleinsockk3169
@sandleinsockk3169 3 жыл бұрын
It's because johnny is in Vs body
@Jkrisppy
@Jkrisppy Жыл бұрын
Which ending is this?
@bbernales177
@bbernales177 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah V’s reaction doesn’t make sense
@alphawolf3350
@alphawolf3350 3 жыл бұрын
Is this a real ending just curious
@JyggaIag
@JyggaIag 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea, probably isn’t a confirmed cannon ending until we get a sequel
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