"I took MC at my company for my mental health..." |

[@31330496RachelYang]

John u’re one of v few sgrean i can listen to u talk n not shut the video in 10 mins because u don’t talk shit or talk big, u talk deep. Thank u for sharing so many insightful, deeply personal, reflective and meaningful thoughts, i appreciate it and hope u continue to find the purpose in whatever u are doing ❤ thank you for being under-rated, it’s refreshing in a sea of ego and narrow minds.

[@yeobryan3215]

Hi Jon and Pat, Hearing about Jon’s journey and his vision for leadership genuinely moves me. As an employee, it warms my heart to see how deeply he care for his team, understand their struggles, and support their dreams. This kind of empathy and compassion reassures me that there are truly good people in the world, proving that not all bosses are just interested in extracting as much as possible from their employees while offering minimal compensation. Although my contribution would be modest, I’d love to support the both of you through a "Super Thanks" donation on KZbin. Would it be possible to set that up so I can contribute and be part of your journey?

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

@@yeobryan3215 hello Bryan. We are honoured by your thought but we cannot accept luh. We appreciate very deeply just by you watching our videos. 🥹 Thank you. Pat

[@pikepushup]

Genuinely appreciate John for sharing part of what it’s like to be a biz owner in SG. Your content has definitely gotten me through some lows trying to navigate operating a business, and the honesty in your sharing makes me feel like hard times are part of what makes the journey worth it. Thank you John & Pat for starting this channel & making such meaningful content 🙏🏻🫡

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

@@pikepushup awww thank you for leaving such kind words. Thank you so much for your support. Pat

[@germinc]

Hi Darren! Also thanks to John and Pat for the good video..

[@reminixee]

This is so relatable as a first time manager too. Managing people is definitely a whole new level. Thank you for sharing this. Truly needed this.

[@libraries144]

as a fellow entrepreneur at 23 (ive been doing it for 3 yrs) i struggled so much with setting boundaries for myself with my staffs, partners and customers. after 3 years i feel like i finally got a hang of it. I needed staffs and partners that are willing to work with me and improve the business together. Toxic ex staffs and business partners has always made me hate working and ive thought of quitting multiple times. My mental health the past 3 years has never been stable and i lost myself. After i got new business partners to work with me and straighten out my boundaries and position as a boss, i feel like my business is finally starting anew and i have a vision for the business.

[@tansiwei2344]

Unrelated to the content but - Pat’s sunglasses suits her so well!!! She looks so cute in it 😍 Thank you for sharing both your perspective with us ❤

[@simbeekuan4056]

I am really impressed with his John's perspective of life and he's so real. I will always support TDK

[@sdale1sg]

Good sharing. For people out there who criticized your boss and think you can do better. Please do understand the pain and effort owners go through. All the best !

[@anthealimanntien673]

super thankful to have tuned in to this episode! as a small and young business owner, this really put things into perspective

[@crehmenti]

Just wanna say John seems like a wise person - from the times he shares his views on TDK and even a few videos on this channel - a very well-put together man. Question would be: what made/shaped him to be like that, how can one be like that?

[@theSkinnyBasket]

Go to study in Damai Secondary school. Tons of talents from there.

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

😂

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

Fucking up a lot of things then realising he don’t know anything. Social media only la. I’m not very bright. 😂

[@HoneyMoneySG]

Thanks for sharing your stories John! I've enjoyed and learnt so much from this episode.

[@benwong2061]

thanks for sharing your journey John, really needed this 🙏🏻

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

Hang in there Ben! ♥️

[@justthedejavuguy]

thanks for sharing, john and pat. took away a lot from this video and i am also happy to see that how things worked out for both of you

[@gohck4750]

Woh, this is a very sincere and honest sharing of real life problems as being a boss vs a friend in a company. Great content.

[@joelkoh7365]

the honesty i didnt know i needed

[@bevly8]

Pat looks great with her hair colour + glowy skin + matching sunglasses 😎

[@MichaelTanri]

Thank you John for sharing your experience. This resonates with me as being an entrepreneur

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

Hang in there Michael!

[@samuelhuick]

Thank you as always for the wonderful yet informative content for us to watch! Always found some form of encouragement thru your videos 💪🏻

[@Lopplo76]

Thanks for sharing! Gives me a better perspective of what my friend and ex were going thru. 😊

[@da0kia]

Thanks Jon for sharing. Same creative sphere, but on the employee & MNC side so its v relatable. These 4 years i've been v grateful for the exp to be a partner to my boss to build our team - and its never been clearer to me of the necessity of caring about the bottom line and living in fear of what we need to do. omg it was so darn hard making tough decisions on underperformers or just to have to let deserving people go or without a raise so really felt you on the story about 'the five' Question from me: if pat wasn't with you from the start, how do you think this adventure would have gone both in biz terms, and as an emotional comfort?

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

Honestly, I think we would’ve gotten here faster. But I’m not sure if I’d be able to sustain it without a strong why.

[@therealgkoay]

Hahaha this is so telling! Now I know why you could never hire me back then. You said you couldn't afford it, at the time I didn't believe it. I do now. As I start my own thing today, I look back at those times I was extra hard with my bosses and could have been more empathetic. After working with and around MNC companies you learn a few things. There is a time to play hardball and there's a time not to. I shouldn't have played so hard so often but I can take these learnings and past business mistakes into my own company now. Thanks for sharing. This was very insightful!

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

I couldn’t just hire you. I’d need to be able to dangle incentives for you. You’d come with a bonus. And I must be able to answer this question for you “what’s next for me?” And I wouldn’t have been able to answer that back then.

[@JUSTWINS8]

Many thanks for sharing an extremely interesting and insightful topic. Bravo!

[@MrDaddycharles]

Congrats to your success and sharing 👍💪

[@illnsp08]

This was really helpful. Esp for spouse of entrepreneurs their pov n what they've been thru.

[@nasoo4188]

This help me understand marketing agencies actually underpay their staff a lot.

[@ShawnrickHu]

Hey! This was a really insightful and fun watch! Thanks for sharing your story! :)

[@edx9364]

great insights! thanks for sharing@

[@wong339]

I’m not a boss but i can relate. I always tell ppl the part of my job that i hate the most is doing appraisals with my staff.

[@j.s07]

John what are some of the essential qualities you need to have as a business owner? How to you deal with rejections in pitches/ sales etc?

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

I don’t think I made it yet. So I don’t know for sure. But if you ask me now, I think it’s having unrealistic optimism that is allowed to leak, but you always find a way to top it up again. Hope this makes sense to you.

[@teohyc]

If you don’t understand the jobs of other people, see if you can shadow them for a day. Then you can understand, and learn something new.

[@iamelijahvawgora]

23k Subsss so fasttt omg been here since the beginning also John looking handsome his eyebrows so nice

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

Ayeee thanks eh. Hahahah

[@newbzplayz]

Such a conflicted individual. Caught between doing the right thing and the correct thing. May the odds be ever in your favor John.

[@mintcreativegiftsandideas674]

Great sharing on this insightful content .

[@cybergod77]

People management is one of the toughest task

[@Chenglinglau]

Hi Pat and Jon, thank you so much for sharing this video and particularly found it very relatable. I am also in a leadership position whereby I feel there will definitely be somebody who will not be happy with whatever decisions I or the company make. Similarly, I am also very emotionally attached to "key" people within the company. How do you try to still be a "friend" and not be emotionally damaged at the end of the day? How do you also identify the "next batch" of key personnels as well? Ps, do you plan to hold leadership workshops?

[@sbhvgangsters2803]

As someone who was lucky enough to have work with you (not directly), i feel like a proud mama hen to see how far you’ve come so far 😢both in personal and professional context. Always gonna root for you

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

WHOOOOO

[@sbhvgangsters2803]

@@JOHNPATCROSSdoesn’t matter who bro…just reply with something like “awwwww shucks”. Thanks senpai. Love, Sampah

[@desdessydesmond]

Omg this is really interesting and inspiring to me as a creative creator that has a dream to build a creative company or agency and start writing my own story instead of writing others! Thankyou for sharing! 🥹

[@littlegardenhouse]

Good sharing. Got a question for both of you. Pat will you ever work in John's company? John, will you let Pat work in your company and why?

[@alui5362]

cool sharing!

[@oo8342]

You shared alot about success stories and your experience. But in your view, when is it time to call quits and really close shop/stop persevering or burning money. Where is the line between perseverance and blind hope? Should it be a quantitative thing on time/money or should you push for it till the end (assuming it is not the case that you do not have the money, just whether it is the wisest use of the money). Is there a way to litmus test yourself on whether your vision is still sound and possible despite the unfavorable present.

[@CherylTan-p1b]

where is the spot? I also want to go sit there. haha

[@iamDarrennn]

Employees will always complain, until they become their own boss, they’ll know why the bosses do it.

[@MrRazorteeth]

is Dew one of the five ex-employee?

[@jem8965]

😢😢

[@alui5362]

wtf john did u do eyebrow tattoo.

[@jn5902]

Yah i was thinking the same! That patch is too big tho

[@alui5362]

hiaoooooooo~~~~

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

Bro. I embroided my eyebrow for 4 years alrdy.

[@alui5362]

@@JOHNPATCROSS heheh ok lah. ka chiao only. it always looks funnier when it's just done up and hasn't faded to normal yet

[@justinlian2666]

John, what do you think makes a talented employee for a company like GRVTY Media ?

[@yongsheng113]

Easier, money/friendship.

[@nijiak]

3.8k for managing director position spanning 3 countries is ridiculous, they were completely taking advantage of your lack of experience. Slimy af. Another company that is slimy af is one that shares the same first name as an nba player who passed away in an helicopter crash.

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

But I also signed up for it knowing the deal la. So I don’t blame them. Was hell of an experience. Wouldn’t have gotten that kind of exposure otherwise.

[@lidna82]

It is but only if you see it solely from a financial perspective. Let's be real, no company would pay 5 figure salary to someone who just graduated. For the experience that Jon had gotten, it's probably worth several times over.

[@marcang4403]

Nice episode!! But I still prefer Pat’s change job episode.. I find that one more touching.. 😅

[@kankikan8584]

REAL ASS QUESTION: if the wife tends to sniff smell kiss the husband in any setting, does this usually mean that it could be a good healthy relationship? do you guys know of any friends that also does this?

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

Hahahahahhah. Yes. According to a study I read in the past, it signals DNA compatibility. It’s her body telling her that you’d make good children with this man.

[@haychangsheng]

Good story! Is that your BYD atto3 parked at the side?

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

Yes!! If you’re interested in one, go to Jack Cars and use my promo code! 😂

[@xxxcool2565]

You look at all the vastly sucessful entreprenuers like Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Li Ka Shing, Jensen Huang, etc. These guys are damn difficult to work with and are no different to slave drivers. They are no "friends" to their employees. They treat their employees like dirt. They have zero tolerance to non performance and drive the top performers till they break and cry. Till most of their employees are resentful, scared and anxious around them. Friends are the last thing they would describe these sucessful entreprenuers. But guess what? Company is growing, money is pouring in and the employees get rewarded handsomely either through stock options or profit share. So they remain. They get squeezed, cry, fustrated, stressed out and overworked until they quit or drop dead. As long as they made sure the company remains vastly profitable. Which in turn creates more jobs for others. That's how it works.

[@nicoleng4181]

How did TDK podcast started ?

[@DisgaeaCrazy]

@John If we ever cross paths IRL please forgive me if I call you Patrina's husband.

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

PLS DO IT

[@159ljy]

can kaypoh who are the five people? though we kinda know lah. 😂😂

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

If you thinking it’s the Real Talk crew, it’s not.

[@159ljy]

@@JOHNPATCROSS 😯😯😯😯

[@jessical7083]

Im very kaypoh, who are the 5 people? Who's the under-performing girl?

[@cloud096]

does pat feel the need to “live up” to john’s successes?

[@yongsheng113]

Took note, don give your all to a company bro.

[@benwong2061]

Algoooooooooooooo

[@smallsmallgirl]

Can’t believe all this happened because of gushcloud hahaha

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

🫣

[@lackadaisicalllama]

John I know you yandao but tbvh, the ultra close up shots of your face are uncomfortable. Haha

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

Tahan a bit la. Only one camera 😂

[@MrRazorteeth]

don't wear green cap lah😂

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

😂

[@dsignerer]

i work as designer and i never get pay raise AT ALL. and now i'm old and cant move on more le

[@dsignerer]

And no bonus. at all.

[@JoniKings]

aimentalhealthadvisor AI fixes this. Mental health journey in entrepreneurship.

[@dsignerer]

i'm 44 and with zero saving (Coz of wrong investment, not gambling or other bad habit). i think i'm done..

[@ebi929]

Press on. There is still time to work on saving what you can.

[@JOHNPATCROSS]

I know many people that are starting from scratch in their 40s and 50s! You got this. You’re not starting from scratch, you know your mistakes and you have a much wider network now. Hang in there okay?

[@STOICISMTRADES.]

Don’t quit bro. I may be younger than you but I’m sure I’ve lost more money than you due to wrong investment and is currently in debt. 140k loss at 28 y/o. I’m still going to the gym everyday, paying my debt responsibly, grinding this out. After 4 years of struggles and losses through trading forex. I recently and finally see SOME progress with it and I am still fighting it everyday. Keep learning. It’s all part of the process.

[@eeto_plays]