JOHNSON FERRY BAPTIST CHURCH - ALLEN ORGAN with Diane Bish

[@cynthialonardo]

Magnificent Diane

[@cynthialonardo]

Great program Diane and informative

[@mariealberts8146]

My fAvourite hymn, thx Diane ❤❤❤

[@Nelsonbrook33]

I played this organ right after it was installed when my church was searching for a new Allen organ. It was the mid 1990’s, and this organ was the best thing to come out since sliced bread. I just pray they’re still using it.

[@muzikman8585]

It is actually up for sale on eBay for $75,000. Alot of work is needed to get it all back to working properly

[@muzikman8585]

www.ebay.com/itm/Allen-Custom-ADC-Organ-5-manuals-7-divisions-154-speakers-7600-watts/383013351111?pageci=61b57cde-a28e-45c6-9b02-200e74bac104. There's the link to the sale

[@robertglass481]

@@muzikman8585 Are they replacing it or going rock&roll?

[@organlover1988]

@@robertglass481 They're replacing it with a Walker organ.

[@thatpianoman925]

@@muzikman8585 it's been marked down to 50k

[@ThatOneDude88]

One of the finest musicians to ever live on the planet! Fulbright scholar, too!

[@joer3481]

That was flat out Excellent...I adore Dianne Bish...just sayin...

[@matthewharhai4039]

And now they have a Walker organ. So much for the Allen!

[@EleanorLBest]

Sounds of Easter 💜

[@silviarovere]

😄😄😄💖

[@txpipes61]

As a former Allen representative, I am surprised at the number of boards/stops that are inoperable. The boards used in the ADC organs are generally quite stable and. The only thing that I can think of that would cause this type of failure would be a voltage surge caused by either lightning or a spike in the commercial electric supply. I wish them the best of luck with their new instrument. The Walker organs are fine instruments in their own right.

[@miltronix]

Read about it on OrganForum (check the archives). The present owner of the instrument said it was easy to put the organ back into proper condition. You can read all the 'intrigues' at OF also, including a post from from an Allen VP regarding alleged mis-statements about its condition before replacement.

[@anb740]

This was an ADC TT-4 tone board organ. The old voicing control pots were always the culprit on those boards. The factory offered to fix the defective boards for free, and the church turned them down. You won’t find any other manufacturer that would do that…..or even fix an organ of theirs this old!

[@EleanorLBest]

I don't like to stipulate a "favorite" because there's so much music abroad in the land -BUT- Vidor's Toccata #5 puts a halt to everything else❣️

[@EleanorLBest]

Oops! WIDOR!

[@joshuamiller-le753]

They now have a digitally produced Aeolian-Skinner by Walker

[@TheJakeman789]

That’s too bad, they could’ve easily gotten a pipe organ. If they had the funds for that over-sized toaster, then they could’ve easily afforded a decent pipe organ. They had plenty of space for one too.

[@NorfolkSouthern-xt3xx]

@@TheJakeman789 They probably could have,....had a pipe organ instead of that Walker,I mean. This is the one time I'll agree with you! LOL!!

[@GlamRockCowboy]

In reading the eBay listing for this instrument, I noticed that an "Ancillary" division had been "prepared for," but apparently, for whatever reason, no further action was taken as far as completion or installation was concerned. Does anyone have any further information about this?

[@Duhme1]

This organ sounds amazing for it only being an ADC model

[@NorfolkSouthern-xt3xx]

Looks newer than an ADC model!

[@marcfrl]

It is an Allen ADC organ!!

[@marcfrl]

I own an Allen ADC 5300 with 7 full speaker cabinets. Very nice organ!! It is installed in my home.

[@marcfrl]

Oh this model was custom made for this church!

[@marcfrl]

Nice, but it would be better if you can have seperate speakers! That will sound better.

[@phillipbaggio7915]

Does anyone else think that the Widor Allegro was taken too fast?

[@ThatOneDude88]

Never noticed anything but GREAT musicianship, GREAT registration and GREAT playing!

[@hosannahorn]

ADC technology or MDS

[@anb740]

ADC with seven computer cages full of TT-4 tone boards.

[@resultant64]

Allen is my favourite from America and Johannus form Europe...Allen is expensive though....and so is Copeman Hart ....Marshall Ogletree very elaborate and frightfully expensive...

[@patmeaden]

M&O organs just sound fake

[@NorfolkSouthern-xt3xx]

@@patmeaden If not Allen,...I'd take a Rodgers over M&O.

[@christophermirocco6387]

I AM Ms. Bish's #1 fan, so this has no reflection on her- Her playing in this video is exceptionally good. BUT- this organ- the sound is way too muffled/muddy. The swell reed chorus sounds like the exhaust note from my car! lol Thank God Allen sound technology has come a long way since this time.

[@Mikemallga]

When was this recorded? 30 years ago? Did this organ only have a life of 30 years?

[@cynthiabrown2473]

Michael Dyches was replaced this year with a completely digital Walker, voiced like an Aeolian Skinner

[@Mikemallga]

Cynthia Brown I wonder next summer 2020 if the AGO Convention in Atlanta will have a Recital on this Organ. I believe they are suppose to go to Peachtree UMC to hear the Mander Pipe Organ from London. It has 2 Consoles and costed $8 Million.

[@anb740]

It had a life expectancy far more than what this church gave it. Allen offered to fix the faulty tone boards for free, and the church turned them down. Spent a hefty six figure sum instead for the Walker, and it wasn’t necessary. This organ is now at the NC dealership and still works just fine after repairs.

[@zeusantony5027]

FIVE manuals of Allen! Thank goodness most of it has not stood the test of time.

[@raymondbassford6134]

Walker runs circles around Allen. Allen need to catch-up.

[@williamviverette1368]

For the price of a Walker, they should.

[@farmboysdiesel]

Never have, never will run circles around Allen.

[@miltronix]

@@williamviverette1368 Yup- the W that replaced this was said to co$t $800K

[@tommorris3688]

This Allen Computer Organ sounds half decent. There is noticeable speaker coloration, especially when Diane Bish plays full organ. The Allen engineers simply do not understand transient intermodulation distortion arising from Doppler shifts associated with speaker cone movement. Full organ chorus is thin. Hauptwerk (Milan Audio) does a much better job.

[@miltronix]

This was several generations old technology (ADC). If you heard it in person I think you would've felt different. And I don't think I know more than the "Allen engineers" and perhaps you shouldn't either!

[@NorfolkSouthern-xt3xx]

This church was smart for choosing an Allen! Your best,...and only choice,...is Allen!

[@MattGerhard]

Soon to be replaced with a new Walker.

[@georgemurphy2579]

Regardless, Diane Bish is the only one to demonstrate it effectively. The Joy of Music has brought so many Catholics closer to the instrument via EWTN. Good thing because Catholics are not generally as well acquainted with great organ literature as are our protestant brethren.

[@augustusfarmers8204]

@@MattGerhard and the Allen is being restored now to it's original and even better condition.

[@raymondbassford6134]

Augustus Farmers it is?

[@robmcginn4484]

Allen? What happened here ? Was you rep not consulted? Allen is well noted for servicing older instruments and they build everything in house...everything! I l like Walker too with the Skinner. Sampling! Too bad but somewhere the church lost confidence in Allen. Sad!!!!!

[@anb740]

I'm not at liberty to discuss full details on the unscrupulous nature at which the organist went about to get the Walker organ installed. As I mentioned above, the faulty tone board replacements were offered free of charge from the factory. Walker's voicer for this area even went online to push the Walker by lying that the Allen was too costly to repair. Doesn't get any cheaper than FREE! At least the Allen is already in a new home and is 100% operational again.

[@NorfolkSouthern-xt3xx]

@@anb740 I heard the Walker on a live stream,....it was okay,maybe,....but I feel the church should have taken Allen up on the offer free of charge the tone board replacements. After reading your comment about the Walker voicer lying about the Allen being too costly to repair to push the Walker,I don't have much respect for Walker now! Good thing is the Allen is in a new home and 100% operational again. Why the church lost confidence in Allen is a mystery to me,...and it's sad that they did! I may be a Rodgers guy,but I would have taken Allen up on the offer to repair the organ FREE of charge.

[@anb740]

fingerstoes316 You’ve already been called out elsewhere by Allen’s VP regarding your erroneous claims on the cost of repairs and the fact that Allen DID offer to repair the organ free of charge. (he had previously done so with Walker’s own local voicer elsewhere) And since I’m one of the technicians who looked after the instrument in its final years, I know exactly how much they’ve spent. You made another false comment elsewhere on how they spent $73,000 this year alone on the Allen. WRONG! You then amended it to say within the last five years. Wrong again! Now you’re saying grand total. Which is it? I have no idea who has been feeding you this incorrect info from the church, but it is in error. And it has been confirmed elsewhere, again contrary to your statements, heat was never a factor in circuit board damage. Thankfully, as I now understand it, the Allen is now in a better home and back in operation with minimal effort. It’s now well known that the church spent hundreds of thousands on a new organ instead of taking up Allen’s offer to fix the current damaged boards for free and bring that organ back to 100% operation.

[@Jack-eo5fn]

I know newer Allen’s can be brighter, but this one has that older muddled sound like it’s too thick, too muddy in the middle. But no question Diane Bush is a among the finest organists of the century.

[@wphubert]

Shame that Allen could not support this instrument by updating the failing tonal system. The problem of technology is that moves on so rapidly. No one uses a computer or watches a TV built in 1989. Although the tonal work on this instrument overseen by Larry Phelps was obviously the state of the area at the time. One major failing is that there are only divisional couplers and no sub or super octave couplers. However Allen will not fundamentally rebuild with modern , more reliable and supportable technology. This was the same scenario at the 5 manual MOS Organ at Westminster Pres inAlbany N.Y. A console that could last for 50 years is thrown away far before its time. Shame that Walker is replacing what should have been a better Allen.

[@NorfolkSouthern-xt3xx]

Yes it IS a shame it's being replaced with a Walker. A newer,better Allen,...or even a Rodgers,...would have been a better choice,....just saying!

[@wphubert]

anb740 who is the new owner? It was an amazing feat to get it reinstalled and repaired in a few weeks.

[@anb740]

@William Hubert The Allen dealer in Charlotte. The organ itself had double audio on it. He supposedly reduced that down to one speaker per channel; hence the reason he sold off a bunch of the excess speakers. As far as I know, he has no intentions of reinstalling it anywhere and is keeping it as a showpiece of his studio. At 30 years old, it's still one of the better sounding Allens out there.

[@NorfolkSouthern-xt3xx]

@@anb740 Someone,...such as the pastor,...should have put their foot down and told the organist "NO WAY are you going to do us that way!" I sure would have!

[@zeusantony5027]

Larry Phelps. There's a name to conjure with.

[@Nunofurdambiznez]

One of her more "toned-down" outfits.. nice to see it for once.

[@charlesmathuesiii1206]

Sounds nice but I'd rather hear a pipe organ

[@stthomasmore4811]

Oh fer frick sake. Who wants to hear these electronic toaster ovens? GET PIPES.

[@horacerumpole7629]

Too bad they didn't opt for and actual real organ..the reeds sound like Honda car horns..granted the Walker is better but still...

[@anb740]

I see your profile name pop up all the time, and only to bash Allen organs. Are you a rep for one of their competitors? You clearly created this account for the sole purpose of negative comments because you haven’t posted a single actual video of anything on your account.