Jonathan Bowden - 'Ezra Pound'. 33rd New Right Meeting.

[@Ponerology]

Jonathon Bowden was a walking encyclopedia. No notes or teleprompters necessary.

[@Richard0292]

Ponerology Yes. With most youtubers I put them on 1.25 speed because the information doesn't come fast enough. I can't do that with Bowden, he's too fast. And his speeches are mostly off the cuff. Amazing man.

[@solidsnek1023]

Kevin Michael Grace who has some older podcasts on KZbin called Grace and Steele, and who now is a cohost on a right wing youtube show called Luke Ford show, is very similar, a prodigious memory and always has something interesting to say.

[@louduva9849]

@@solidsnek1023 Grace is awful! What a dreadful comparison!

[@GrapistAD]

Super BASED

[@hiroyukikitaguni9450]

Me too: speech as is, not at 1.25 or 1.5x. Bowden was an incredible public speaker, here briefing us on The Pound Era (yes, Hugh, from you).

[@godfrey_of_america]

My favorite Ezra Pound poem: Ite' Go, my songs, seek your praise from the young and from the intolerant, Move among the lovers of perfection alone. Seek ever to stand in the hard Sophoclean light And take you wounds from it gladly.

[@leshtricity]

we shall never see his like again. but thank God that he was here at all to influence and inspire.

[@StateLaughter]

Ezra Pound was one of a kind. An uncompromising intellectual and real life hero for the ages. He saw right through all the bullshit of the establishment's lies so clearly and absolutely. And he suffered for it, yet all the while never caving in or breaking under multiple persecutions by The Enemy. He never gave them that satisfaction. Ave!

[@LiamPorterFilms]

Ever read his poetry? Complete self indulgent wank

[@StateLaughter]

Retinend :Of course I've read Pound's fucking poetry dickface. It's the greatest shit after Poe. The second greatest poet in all of human recorded history.

[@LiamPorterFilms]

How can you justify this? www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/54320

[@LiamPorterFilms]

in the first dozen lines alone, that poem mentions the proper names Zeus, Ceres, Taishan, Cythera, Padre José Elizondo, Dolores, Sargent, Velázquez, el Museo del Prado, and Bowers. It requires you to understand Spanish. If you can decyper all that, and continue along similar lines for over 100 cantos then well done you win the intellectual game that Pound set for you (and which he, older and wiser, himself said "didn't make sense"). You can imaginarily join his Parisienne society of degenerate individualists who are long dead and have no descendents except in the universities.

[@LiamPorterFilms]

He also later repudiated his anti-semitism as a free man. He never had any problems defying convention, so it would seem odd to call this a caving into peer pressure.

[@SanguisSol3]

This talk gets better the longer he goes. Great points and poetic renditions. SS

[@wewliusevola]

God I wish Jonathan Bowden was still with us today

[@pearlgirl5643]

His spirit is rising now within all those who understand what is needed in 2020 to reverse, or at least rally against, the tides

[@GrapistAD]

This man was a speaking genius

[@virtuallybliss]

Bowden's lecture here is the most insightful and cogent lectures on Pound I have heard.l Outside of a 20 hour Pound seminar, Bowden is where to learn about Poundl.

[@Survivethejive]

bowden can't do american accents

[@BlackGnosis]

When and where will that Anglo-Saxon Pagan documentary be available?

[@zoopyjoobles]

Survive the Jive Hail Kinsman. Hail to the Aesir.

[@PaleRider1861]

to his credit.

[@richardwestwood8212]

Why should he? I'm American and speak like a New Yorker and have no wish to speak like a hick from Texas or a hillbilly from Alabama or some place in the middle of nowhere. The Brits should talk like the Brits, the Australians like the Australians, the Africans with their banana accent and so forth, you got it ?

[@jefferykirschner8816]

@@richardwestwood8212it was a rather lighthearted remark

[@signore1043]

Where in our world today can we find intellects and writers of the stature of Pound, Yeats, Eliot, Lewis....on and on. There was an admiration of intellect which has disappeared into trite cliches of thinking. Find a person on Bowden's level talking about Pound objectively and calmly. He doesn't snicker like Chris Hitchens or think he's above his subject one of Pound's biographers, Humphrey Carpenter.

[@maryjanewhite5710]

Take a quiet hour for this lecture on Pound by a British political renegade which has the virtue of being interested and at least heartfelt (in contrast to the rather silly Langdon Hammer lecture at Yale, which, I suppose, suffers badly from being pitched to undergraduates by Hammer who seems no more than a bad grad student)

[@lolzkai]

Really an interesting video all around, thanks for posting this.

[@BlackGnosis]

You're welcome.

[@dayonmage3946]

LOVE HIM.

[@vgamedude12]

I liked Pounds thoughts on what it means to be a European American. More Americans should think that way.

[@blueberrymuffintime1375]

so good

[@Ar-Tir]

Does anyone know if his talk on Yukio Mishima was recorded?

[@skymanifest8339]

Ar Tir Yes it was and is available to purchase on DVD via The London Forum.

[@Ar-Tir]

Great! Is the DVD available to purchase online anywhere? If not is there a chance his talk would be uploaded to KZbin?

[@skymanifest8339]

Ar Tir Email [e-mail] and they will forward you the relevant info.

[@lawsonj39]

It's on KZbin: Jonathan Bowden-Yukio Mishima

[@adude9882]

I'd like to see a pastiche combining the styles of Pound and Bob Dylan

[@Gorboduc]

I'm convinced Dylan grew his hair out to look like a young Ezra. Ginsburg was the conduit between the two...

[@JR-hi9bu]

The funny thing is there are many recordings of Pound reading his poetry aloud and he does not at all have the awful accent Bowden affects for him

[@TheGuyMullins]

A great perspective... of course they have to criticize our own Eustace Mullins​ which is always the object of anyone rejecting the truth and protecting their pocket ...

[@Ponerology]

Francis Parker Yockey, not William.

[@StateLaughter]

Hail the imperative of the worldwide European Fascist Imperium. Yockey was a true visionary and his opus book transcends description. 'Imperium' transmits a tangible power into one's mind upon reading it.

[@Ponerology]

+StateLaughter Strength and honor, Courage and conviction, Imperium!

[@annamcmahon5180]

Murdered?!

[@yuridelgado6068]

Very good conference!!, very contradictory Pound in his way of see politics and literature, Bowden is an erudyth man, but probably shows a right, conservative, aristocratich approach. Pound was that, in a big and personal contradiction, as Borges and Pessoa, others of the greatest poets of the XX century, but his criticism of capitalism is a great achivmenent putting that in poetry. And a certain way he is a left critic activist, his fascism aprroach was because Pound taught that Mussolini was going against the greed and capitalistic savage system, going for a populist and social goverment, but that was not.

[@dirksharp9876]

He was more against the private central banking system, which could well exist under any political doctrine. The fascists and the USSR both tried to combat this system but through a more centralized approach.

[@GoMoreHike]

36:21 William Pierce reference

[@JohnLandau-h5g]

Many Nazis and Coomunists have been prepared to die for their beliefs and did die for them. That does not mean that their belief-systems were either fact-based or helpful totheir fellow human beings, I share the speraker's admiration for Pound both as a poet and a man. But unlike him I make a distinction between his personal integrity and his unselfish service to his fellow artists and his sincere desire to helpmakethe world a better place,, and what I believe to be his completely wrong-headed and destructive politics. And above all, I reject his irrational and unjustified hatred for the Jews and many other people. As he wrote himself in one of Pisan cantos, "how mean thy hates/ fostered in falsity,"

[@zsedcftglkjh]

Why the Hell did everyone clap at 34:56 ?

[@cmbw4792]

Zachary Holler because fascism is necessary and proper.

[@zsedcftglkjh]

CMBW I admire your honesty, even if I don't admire you.

[@His-Soldier]

@@zsedcftglkjh I saw your query before the time stamp and waited patiently until I reached this point of the talk to find out what exactly it wad durected at. As the context was revealed to me, the question transformed from something entirely prosaic to hilariously telling in a way that is far beyond the capability of rendition which the mere words used in the question would allow. It is, no doubt to you, surprising that Fascists arrive at their views from such erudite and rigorous reasoning. Given that the now wholly slanderous term fascist is thrown around without any reasonable cause these days it is not surprising to see that people conclude, erroneously, that Fascists are unreasonable and thuggish. The reality, however, couldn't be further from that assumption. The answer you got was mint, as well.

[@Originalgthang]

Who is this guy?

[@TheZestyCar]

Sgt MacGruber Jonathan Bowden

[@Originalgthang]

Ya no shit I see the title

[@spacemunky53]

+Sgt MacGruber haha its jonathan bowden

[@pearlgirl5643]

Do a search - I suggest using DuckDuckGo not Google - Cheers!

[@heimric2563]

38:19 oh… you just wait for Donald Trump.

[@JohnLandau-h5g]

What discredited Pound among his fellow intellectuals and the general public after world war 2 was his virulent antisemitism .Before the second world war, antisemitism had been widespread and socially acceptable in the Western world; after the war, it ceased to be respectable for several generations, because of the revelation of the Nazi's genocide, which soon became known as the Holocaust. People suddenly realized that two thousand years of the "teaching of contempt" for Jews and Judaism had made this horror possible. Pound's frequent antisemitic jibes throughout his wartime broadcasts have attracted for more condemnatio0ns from his fellow intellectuals than his opposition to U.S. participation in the war, and even his praise of Mussolini and Hitler in and of itself. At least one broadcast in which Pound seemed to hint that he knew of the extermination campaign against the Jews (which he described as a massive "pogrom") drew especially harsh condemnation from his fellow writers. The second war proved to be the great divide in Western perceptions of antisemitism as a respectable although perhaps unfair point of view antebellum to a perception of it as condoning or inciting genocide after the war severely damaged Pound's reputation and standing, even in literary circles.

[@odelisk8]

TRUMP.

[@loremipsum7471]

Jonathan Bowden lived long enough to see flat panel screens. I also heard he was a closet homosexual. Any truth to that?

[@cicero1178]

Pxxfy Thv Pvrivh Only a certain section.

[@steadhelium]

None

[@annamcmahon5180]

does it matter?

[@geinikan1kan]

In spite of Pound's support of fascism, he could put a few lines together well. But he was still a dyed in the wool fascist.

[@geinikan1kan]

@Harvey Smith So you like that he was a fascist? Which parts of his poetry do you like as a fascist?

[@Vingul]

@@geinikan1kan "in spite of", as if being a fascist would preclude one from writing great poetry.

[@geinikan1kan]

@@Vingul I think a great fascist would not write anything interesting.

[@Vingul]

@@geinikan1kan LOL.

[@Epic501]

@@geinikan1kan seethe, midwit pseud