TF2: Spy Main vs 1000 ENGINEERS

[@funnydude69]

liveleak footage of a french person finding himself in the state of texas

[@Manny4Life948]

“Your a long way from France, boy”

[@nicktheguy_]

it's over

[@mariustan9275]

How did he cross the border?

[@IRS-p1w]

Idk

[@icyfjord6846]

@@mariustan9275 He swam.

[@TheFrantic5]

1:20 due to this, I added flavor text to my YER: "On miss: Rapidly disguise as yourself. Idiot."

[@crazinventorirl]

Lol, that's great

[@infamousk77]

thats hilarious wtf

[@LukeMarcusD.SanPablo]

dude thats literally every knife (please add it to every knife you have for funnies)

[@thatfedoraguy1112]

I need to ask,may I use this? Because this is absolutely brilliant

[@TheFrantic5]

@@thatfedoraguy1112 MBisonOfCourse.mp4

[@WhymePlays]

1000 uncles 1000 ping edition

[@yellowball1948]

The teleporting spy main vs the 1000 uncle's Dane

[@mageenter]

Dear god!

[@TheMacWindu]

Spy has a guuuuuuuunnnnununnnunun

[@jojo9222]

I had more

[@PyromaniaEnjoyer]

@WhymePlays spinjutsu spy against dumbass engenieers

[@OrangeTheColourXD]

i love Uncle Dane because in one video he says that "no engi stacking" and then making a server with a 40 engineers

[@dojelnotmyrealname4018]

In fairness, the fact the bots are buffed; respawn instantly, and outnumber you 2 to 1, and still lose, kinda makes the point doesn't it?

[@lucas_br9592]

​@@dojelnotmyrealname4018 I mean not like they can win, the timer is infinite

[@michaeljo9384]

@@lucas_br9592 It's USED to have limitted and normal time like vanilla TF2 but the engineer bots are on easy difficulty (Litteraly cannot detect spy unless bumped, undisguised or have visible debuff, have an aim of a fresh install, etc.) so Uncle Dane give the overheal buff, instant respawn, 20% faster wrench attack rate, and set the bot difficulty to expert (Can detect disguised spies even before bumping or undisguised but only aim and look at the spy for some reason and only shoot if bumped or undisguised, have the aim of a 1000 hours player but still turtle and build in ineffective spot). But the timer set to count up from 0 so "You can know how much time you based your head against them" said by Uncle Dane which contracted the previous buff making the engineer bots more likely to win to nonexistent winning chance unless all non-bot players have their PC/laptop ragequit, out of battery, crashed or have their free time ran out so i guess he take fun first and balance second despite liking competitive over casual.

[@Introbulus]

Only stack engineers if you can do so infinitely.

[@shawnlam3109]

Because funny.

[@Collisto2435]

Jontohil2 forgot that hard bots have a random chance of just opening fire at a disguised Spy to simulate 'being found out'.

[@TF2CrunchyFrog]

I don't know about that. But TF2 bots on Hard difficulty react if a Spy accidentally bumps into one of them -- which given the amount of Engineers clustering together is likely to happen at some point -- and then they all get alerted.

[@MaverickHenderson-u5n]

​​@@TF2CrunchyFrogFun Fact: due to an admin command only the real Uncle can use, he can join red and be a jerk, side note he can play other classes as well while on red cause yes Edit: missed the answer part: Uncle Dane may have been there and he's not a bot

[@grimmsoul3096]

@@TF2CrunchyFrog killing someone with the yer or making psychical contact with any uncle will grant all uncles omnipotence on you until you follow absurd steps (honestly you could call what I do more a ritual than actually knowing them) as my method of getting the bots to stop shooting me is to cloak, disguise as anything else, and decloak. also the engi bots won't "open fire" on you unless they are not able to smack their sentry unto oblivion

[@WhymePlays]

You minding you own business before getting ambushed by 5 engineers is a classic spy pub moment

[@midnightplayzyt9239]

So to clear up the confusion with the bots’ knowledge.. (paragraph time🎉) If the bot youre disguised is even near other bots (in fov or not) they can detect you. They can also detect you once you place even a single sapper, even when they dont have line of sight they just *know* . Also they dont forget you unless you change disguise. (Engie bots will still prioritize buildings over you tho) You can come back 10 minutes later but if you have the same disguise they will attack. Bot are like a hivemind, once one figures you out they all do (hence them all calling spy at the same time even when not looking at you) Bots are completely inept at mechanical skill, but their awareness can be almost omniscient. Even if you cloak they still trace you until you break line of sight. I could be mistakes on a few things but these are the traits I notice for bots normal or higher.

[@IwanRoberts-m8j]

They know everything through their 11 phds and southern hospitality

[@midnightplayzyt9239]

@@IwanRoberts-m8j Imagine if they went for the russian literature phd 😬

[@albran5545]

I have done some training with the bots and had them fully spy check after I killed them a few times, they will be dumb but do shoot you from time to time

[@badopinionssquid1735]

Also they're completely incapable of fear I've seen those psychopaths build their nests directly next to ours Their stuff WILL get built, they don't care where, when or how, it WILL

[@grimmsoul3096]

I can attest spies retaining said omniscience and not changing disguises after they catch onto you is akin to remaining undisguised.

[@Techhunter_Talon]

Yeah, when one bot engineer detects a Spy, the whole other team nearby knows about that particular Spy. So, if the guy you're disguised as 'sees' you then everyone nearby knows.

[@brunop.8745]

Hivemind mentality

[@Deffuffy]

@@brunop.8745 Breath of Evil

[@thunderknight4149]

"Now all of texas knows your here!"

[@Techhunter_Talon]

@@brunop.8745 Literally.

[@dukecatfishjunior6291]

I actually hate how AI spy detection works but here this is funny

[@ChronologicalGamer]

The red team that can only be made out of enginnears when they see a scout: "yeah that seems about right"

[@Wrixchanger]

the "subtle" foreshadowing is one of the best parts of the video

[@BingusMan7483]

4:39 uncle cocaine

[@Manny4Life948]

Man, I love that uncle!

[@shin3stuff904]

The uncliest of all the Danes

[@dr_nefario2]

Oh boy I need to bring out the popcorn for this

[@Saphir_Bruder]

fr

[@PyromaniaEnjoyer]

Jontohil uploads are cinematic experience

[@yellowball1948]

Having this as background video is awesome

[@cropiers-blue-guy]

im not trapped in dustbowl with a bunch of engineers... you are all trapped in here with ME

[@Manny4Life948]

… and a bunch of engineers

[@tf2nerd554]

I like how an aussie server of 1000 uncles came out literally yesterday

[@ynnesolace1087]

The thing about the YER is that you disguise as the thing you just killed, which is great... unless you're right near spawn. Given the uncle you just killed, respawns in 0.1 seconds, walks out of spawn, sees you and then 'alerts' other uncles to your presence playing close to spawn feels super safe but it genuinely anything but given how easy it can be for a recently killed uncle to 'find you out' without proper planning.

[@JohnDoe-px6nl]

20:00 Oh yeah, I've consistently had this issue whenever I try joining. I don't know why it happens, but if you join a casual match first, leave that, *then* join 1000 Uncles, you'll have your items. I don't know *why* why that fixes it, but it's worked every time for me so I'm not complaining.

[@Jontohil2]

yeah that's USUALLY what happens, but in this case that specific server had actually lost connection to the item servers

[@JohnnyD1986]

Jontohil: "Spy has a gun!" Uncle Dane: "That don't work. Use more gun!"

[@datonedood3791]

(16:30) if you stab a bot *without cloaking and running out of sight thereafter* bots will sometimes see you as a spy, regardless of having seen you before. the bots are basically a hivemind that dont care about disguises. bumping and failstabs will also trigger this, but its obvious those times.

[@blu3m0nkey]

Not true, they just know that deguise is a spy, switch deguises (they aren't perfect after all, only being tf difficulty 3 bots)

[@foodaah]

@blu3m0nkey these enginner fortress bots however, are a hive mind, backstab, bump, get hit with a stray shot, or sap one thing, they all know

[@mewexe3988]

God embracing you as his new angel after you missed a YER stab and died of an heart attack irl:

[@flamekiller8016]

I just accept my fate as the backline sentries and engis turn towards me and put me out of my french existance

[@scorpionmatero-arg]

Bro that is not a nest thats is FORTRESS

[@shooey-mcmoss]

TEAM Fortress

[@Looona_fan]

A team fortress

[@mrfrog0913]

Maybe the fortresses were the teams we made along the way...

[@Manny4Life948]

Uncle Fortress (or engineer fortress if you fancy)

[@Astrocriminal]

OOh there's a Team Fortress too!

[@CanInThePan]

It proves what uncle Dane said in one of the engineering 101 videos way back when, if there’s too much support but not enough classes to do the supporting, the whole front line collapses.

[@Xezian]

hitting a stab then hearing them harmonize on saying SPY AROUND HERE inflicts psychic damage.

[@Loolilol]

Ngl, seeing for the first time the sea of sentries is quite an experience Also i can relate the uncles turning/moving the TICK before you leftclick on their backs leading to death

[@irontownpictures9283]

14:14 The game was like: "Just use cow mangler, bro"

[@Bupboy]

I literally crafted a cow mangler during a match of 1000 uncles just to disable the sentries So i can confirm

[@ThatNoobKing]

Note about bots and disguises: They will always fall for a disguise, if it's a DIFFERENT disguise than what that bot last saw you as If you disguise as the same class as you've revealed yourself in front of other bots (via bumping or undisguising), they will automatically know it's you and start shooting 2:40 I think that even if you're disguised as that specific bot, it's still not going to know I don't know if bots are coded to notice anything other than spies bumping into people

[@thatonemoviebob3902]

bots DO NOT DETECT IF YOUR DISGUISED AS THEM, they just always remember your disguise even after respawn

[@ThatNoobKing]

@thatonemoviebob3902 exactly yeah

[@yellowball1948]

7:41 "which doesnt really matter that much"

[@thefairylovesniper]

Uncle Dane saying that the ping is fine is the Customer Service spiel of "It's less work for myself if I can convince the customer this is the better option"

[@Judas-xp2fl]

2:15 he know how to make subtitle foreshadowing. We need to run

[@Bupboy]

Subtitle 😭😭

[@ReikuYin]

I can explain what was happening as I used to play a lot on an extreme bots server as Spy. So it's not so much who you are disguised as that tips them off as much as Spy actions. If you do anything spy like it send out what I can only explain as a ping in a radius from where the action took place. The exception is stabs with any silent killer knife. Takes longer with those, usually 3 or 4 stabs. When the ping goes out any bot in range of it will know you are a spy, call out spy, which will send out another ping(why you will get several spy call outs when one goes off), and turn to deal with you. And will hunt you till you are dealt with. The dead ringer will drop that agro instantly but you have to wait about a second before they forget about you. This goes for cloaking as well. Disguises stop working if they 'see' you do something spy like in it or change in front of them or bump them. So you do need to refresh the disguise with another or they will know. Same of you share the name of the bot. In fact the YER causes some interesting reactions after you hit that stab cap where they will look back at you then sometimes keep doing what they were doing. Back in the before YER time, you simply could not play spy against bots as disguises failed after the first and they can and would track you through the cloak. If a bot spy ever saw you it would follow you no matter what. It's honestly fascinating how dumb they can be but how difficult it can be to deal with them at times.

[@couriercatiscool]

It was an honour to fight alongside you, Jonto. (As an Aussie myself I gave up on playing spy and instead sniped with the Scottish Resistance lol) (I respect your sanity)

[@Sobble-cafeinado]

Domain expansion "Texas style"*Multiplies into 1000 engineers and builds 1000 sentry guns that kill you*

[@necroseus]

I'm glad to know that more people will now understand the advantage of using the Red Tape against an engie nest. It's amazing! If only valve gave it a little more health so it took 3 smacks instead of 2 to break, then it really would he worth using :)

[@thatonemoviebob3902]

red tape doesn't work here as usual

[@necroseus]

@thatonemoviebob3902 What is the difference other than getting one shot by Dane?

[@thatonemoviebob3902]

@@necroseus one allows your team to destroy a gun easier and one just reverts the build progress (which isnt useful because they upgrade to lv 3 in 10 seconds )

[@necroseus]

@@thatonemoviebob3902 Ahh, gotcha. Thanks for the info :)

[@thatonemoviebob3902]

@@necroseus no problem mate! have a good day

[@RIPSmalls08]

2:00 subtle foreshadowing

[@doxazamavienngele2780]

🗡️

[@Kalz_]

somehow this isn't the craziest family reunion i've been at

[@thewolfofthestars1847]

Dear lord that ping lmao. I gotta say, it is a special kind of terrifying to do one backstab and immediately hear a thousand "THERE'S A SPY CREEPING AROUND HERE" in near-perfect unison as all the bots turn to hone in on your exact location with murder in their beady little eyes

[@GermaphobeMusic]

1:24 "Le'tranger" is cursed

[@CodaCM]

16:15 The bots can some times just find you even though you are disguised. It’s all source Spagetti.

[@foodaah]

he probably just got hit with a stray shot or something before

[@wolflovesplush5187]

4:28 "Domain Expansion, Infinite, Sentries."

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

Tried Marvel Rivals today and thought it was funny that Loki is basically Spy but with healing abilities... and a backstab that isn't an instant kill... and he can leave decoys that can also shoot... So basically nothing like Spy, I just thought it was funny.

[@Shaormar]

I also tried the game, really didn't like it. There's way to much stuff on the screen. It's annoying

[@mitwhitgaming7722]

​@Shaormar I'm leaning that way. I enjoy playing Loki, but a lot of playing him is just shoot your healing projectiles in the general direction of the fight.

[@Bupboy]

​@Shaormar glad someone else mentioned this Maybe its the collective tf2 fanbase having very shriveled brains, but hero shooters (like marvel rivals) often feel too cluttered and overstimulating

[@zackuattack]

I literally yelled "OOH!!" in a painful voice when you missed that 3:19

[@ENGlNEERGAMlNG]

Jontohil「finally... a worthy opponent!! our battle will be legendary!」

[@Jontohil2]

ゴゴゴゴ

[@Lucarioux]

what i found interesting about this is engineer is pretty good against all these engineers. the explosive classes destroy the frontline of sentries allowing engineer to claim a foothold with sentry. With off angles a spy can make space for the engineers as well since off angles usually only have couple sentries

[@WilliamD.Gaster2000]

Im 1 minute in, and I'm already excited because these bots are set to level 3 or expert mode, meaning engineer bots have: - a 90% chance to recognize a disguised spy isn't a teammate - an engineer you disguised as will 100% of the time shoot to kill - if a spy is on your team and stabs an engineer, you will be recognized too just as quickly - Expert engineer bots are really, really hard to backstab because their tracking is insane And - the bots have a built-in program that if you you backstab them with a few hundred hammer unit radius of another engineer while using the YER, your disguise is just there to stop the sentry from shooting you.

[@witherwitchstudio3846]

Real footage of France vs Texas

[@starmaker75]

Second french mexiccsn war

[@Manny4Life948]

This must be fake footage then, because we all know France would’ve surrendered at the first shot fired

[@M30W3R]

9:11 look at that frenchman all tuckered out

[@william3371]

6:15 @Jontohil2 I realized around here - Since you're not really using cloak anyway/ you don't need it to go in since the bots believe your disguise as you go in, wouldn't the Dead Ringer (controversial as it is) be the best for this very specific job?

[@RGGaming940]

as a fellow aussie i REALLY hope uncle champange adds 1000 uncles to kangaroo island

[@T.TerryThePenguin-wz5lq]

Jontohil: now I have become the sentry buster….The destroyer of engineers. (Edit: minor typo💀)

[@roosdoggo]

ATTENTION ENGINEERS SENTRY BUSTER INCOMING

[@michaelsoftbinbows]

theres an unofficial server running 1000 uncles called engineer fortress on AUS servers, except its 30 instead of 40 uncles

[@_Radio69_]

Dude, I've been having SO much fun playing One Thousand Uncles. I've never had a TF2 experience quite like it.

[@yellowball1948]

2:04 foreshadowing

[@ShadowsWrath4]

Undisputed French Master of The Awkward Pause (and Subterfuge) VS. Cloned Texan Army of That One Relative From Thanksgiving HEAVEN OR HELL _DUEL ONE, LET'S ROCK!!!!_

[@Pudding404]

Oops, all Uncle. Instead of soldier teleporting bread, it's the alternate timeline where he teleported your weird, political when drunk, uncle(s).

[@MorningSunGamer]

Love the increase in the engineer fortress/vs engineer bots gamemode since it's the main thing I play on. As for spy in this gamemode it is best to do saps and backstabs when you have teammates, especially uber charges. Also spy is the only way to really cap objectives and push carts in really difficult situations.

[@Lilion.]

This has to be one of your funniest videos I’m crying 😭😭😭

[@grimdiggy5697]

A Little bit of info of how the bots look when seeing a spy they will keep track and continue shooting if they have line of sight of you from when first caught so either hiding behind a wall or instant cloaking will result in them forgetting your existants (except for the bot your currently disguised as which will always shoot you whenever in line of sight)

[@Freelancer837]

There's irony in not having an Australian server for TF2 of all games

[@Aze-Aze]

spy is the only class you can solo this gamemode with (theres only a few maps you cannot solo even then), it's not that hard if you use the dead ringer uncloak to push cart for payload maps, and for capture point maps you simply pick the spot with the least sentries, clear those sentries, and cap as for what spy needs to do to help the team most, it's to clear sentries around corners and right behind the sentries in front so team can rapidly push as they clear the front sentries (don't bother trying to kill the engies being shot at, they move too much due to repairing their buildings and the knockback from being damaged, plus if you stand in front of a sentry and teammates aggro that sentry you WILL be one shot out of nowhere) the best maps for spy are upward, swiftwater, and odyssey

[@Localcourtjester4hire]

Demo?

[@SpritePony]

Take this with a HUGE grain of salt, as I am not good at the game. I main Spy in 1KU only, and have carried many rounds as Spy. (All my hours on Spy atm is from 1KU exclusively.) When the Engineers are in "roaming" mode (not building/upgrading/maintaining a building), and there is another Spy in the server messing with them, they will CONSTANTLY Spy check. To the point that even if you're doing absolutely nothing while disguised, they WILL pepper you down. It's quite annoying, really. Something one has to adapt to and stay out of their way. Unfortunately, on some maps, that just isn't feasible. Being the funny Frenchman is difficult some days. I've actually gotten used to abusing their AI to break them from the back or middle up to the front. Also, hitbox moments are severe in this server. Also, what I dub "frame 1 turns" when going for backstabs... Not fun either.

[@yellowball1948]

14:46 how did that uncle dane got there and got telefragged

[@filizcivan2485]

4:21 yes the guy you disguised as also shot at you it was Uncle Buster

[@ninjamasterbuilder8675]

You made a video vs engineers but now you face your ultimate challenge

[@jessenelson1276]

I absolutely love the game mode and this chaotic video ❤❤😅

[@mrmateofflake]

2:28 that “OH MY GOD” WAS SO FUNNY😂

[@axesomerta1139]

I genuinely think the ping is so bad that sentries are noticing you in between disguises of the YER

[@thunder_bloxtime8796]

Fun fact: running into a robot while disguised as the enemy team will detect that your a spy Don't know how but yeah

[@ethanhayes7038]

Broadly soeaking there are three states you can find these Engie bots in: Shotgunning, placing buildings, and upgrading/repairing buildings. The Engies repairing or upgrading their buildings are generally safe to do whatever with. They stay relatively still, making them easy to backstab, and while all nearby Engineers notice you if you sap buldings the Engies working on their buildings will prioritize what they're currently doing over killing you. Engies trying to set up buildings will also tend to ignore you when sapping, but backstabbing them can be extremely difficult because they often move erratically while looking for an open space. Finally, the shotgun Engies are a little easier to backstab than the ones looking for a place to build, especially if they're focused on players, but if you place any sappers near them they'll immediately aggro. So basically, don't backstab an Engineer trying to set up and don't place sappers near Engies with their shotguns out.

[@SeleverEnjoyer]

15:10 Normal tf2 spaguetti bug, not stripper plugin, as the spy that capped last point on thunder mountain conga'd successfully

[@jeminicomjota741]

You've alerted the horde

[@Jontohil2]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnXFeneBmtFghZY&ab_channel=AdrenalineCharger

[@YesSir-sr2qw]

Frenchie vs 1000 robots

[@dandyspacedandy]

honestly with all the years of getting terrorized by bots, i expected this game mode to utilize that technology and make a bunch of bots that play like uncle dane does lmao

[@AntiDote-m5t]

Spy in this mode is more of a Support class, your main job is to find all the sentries that are around corners or hidden in a place that your mates have a hard time peaking.

[@TheTrueLittlego]

The bots have improved AI, they will spy check, and something similar to a suspicion meter builds as their fellow uncles disappear

[@HurricaneBady]

I feel bad for tf2 players who are in regions where a lot of community servers are scarce. God speed jontolhil2

[@ninjang8295]

Alternativ name for video. Author of guides plays the same ping as his viewers

[@bazukata3734]

17:25 now that is good dipenser armor

[@Lag17393]

Keep up the great work man, you did a an amazing job

[@william3371]

0:42 @Jontohil2 Thank you for yet another good (TF2) meme flawlessly sandwiched into a video, I think I'm gonna make this my TF2 pfp indefinitely

[@oleksandr4371]

When a bot see someone with his nickname, bot auto say to ALL other bots "this is a spy", so once the bot you disgusted as see you, it will alert every other bot. Also Dane mentioned that bots has 90% chance to detect kill with your eternal reward when it happen in 500 Hu range (9-12m)

[@HelloWorld-zc2vp]

Uncle Dane should make the bots attack all spies that aren’t disguised as engineers

[@SourceEnginePlayer]

this is what hell looks like to spy

[@muscleman125]

I like how 2 weeks ago there was only one 1000 uncles server and it rarely went above 10 players. Now he makes a video and has 20 servers that are constantly full

[@lexrun2572]

i really like that there’s no ping limit since i can never play on uncle topia usually and this mode is really fun

[@AstroChara]

I've been playing Engineer Fortress and this is exactly my experience. Failstabs my beloathed

[@f1mn58]

I found that going soldier with stock rocket and buff banner is REALLY affective in this game mode

[@jeesusapotol9715]

YER plus dead ringer works so well in this mode btw.

[@Altis_Mig]

I say this because i frfr watched the whole video that was posted a minute ago, i can say with confidence - it is real good

[@june9914]

Honestly the best solution against extreme engi stacking is stock + qf and a phlog/dfury pyro. Normally a stock uber can’t get close since the knockback is extreme with multiple sentries, but the qf stops the pyro from being knocked back, and pyro can hit multiple buildings and people at once. Very effective vs wranglers because engi dies fast against 1 and the sentry stop firing is a bonus on top of that

[@Localcourtjester4hire]

Have to say. A Kritzkreig Medic and a stock Medic both pocket one Demo or Soldier (particularly with the Direct Hit or Iron Bomber) >:)

[@june9914]

@ iron bomber does worse than the loch

[@Localcourtjester4hire]

@june9914 Aw. Stock/Loch or Direct Hit Kritz.

[@mr_pigman1013]

gaben gives his sweatiest spies to his uncliest danes

[@CCDNúñez]

My experience with the game mode as Spy is to get the engies set up around corners that are hard to peek for the rest of your team. Also, the RTR is good when the engies are far from their spawn, since they can't set up a new sentry until the old one goes down. When they're close to spawn, use the stock sapper.

[@Squabsss]

music choices goated as always

[@fedora7kid]

Spy has the possibility of fun but good ping is rare

[@Josh-pd9yf]

Ah yes 1000x more pain that even gun can't save you from, you really do love losing your sanity

[@christmaseveboy6947]

The bots are on expert mode

[@darckap2785]

Literally just finished taking my last exam for this semester. This video was a nice treat to start off Christmas break👍

[@winstonpham4809]

Was playing the mode earlier such nostalgic fun now now the engie main who i watched alit made it a reality

[@davidgamegod]

Demoman on that gamemode: Kaboom? Spy: kaboom indeed you drunked wrench

[@Yacovo]

Thanks for the video.

[@joelsoon4090]

The subtle foreshadowings 😂😂😂😂 1:56

[@amithabraham2224]

As a Turtle Engie/Banner Soldier/Scorch Shot Pyro, getting killed by a Crit Pomson repeatedly in the server(s) is a badge of honor for the many months my friends and I played on it. Even if i had to play as Cloak and Dagger YER spy, pomson kills are hilarious.