Jordan Hall | The Arcanum of Force

[@WhiteStoneName]

1:03:50 “there has to be no expectation of return, Or else it’s not sacrifice.” ❤ yep. Making faith into Mammon.

[@WhiteStoneName]

Excellent convo. Thank you.

[@NTheoryGo]

Nate, my favorite thing about your channel is you have now introduced Tomberg to Pageau, Vervaeke, Jordan Daniel Wood and now Jordan Hall. In turn, hopefully to more people tuning in. MotT is what brought me back to Christianity years ago, and my favorite text. Keep it up!

[@DoubtfireClub]

Can't wait to see clips from this video really take off on tiktok

[@elektrotehnik94]

Is TLC present & alive on TikTok?

[@DoubtfireClub]

@elektrotehnik94 only in a Metagelical' spirit way.

[@WhiteStoneName]

50:55 “…there has to be something underlying the Fallen Nature which can actually be redeemed…” ❤💯🎯

[@lynnlavoy6778]

Love the insight about non- rivalry, capitalism has a shadow, thanks! Interesting symbolism 4 sure

[@infoaddict1717]

I think we must address the selfishness of the son, the selfishness of the father, and the selfishness of the mother...

[@HaigAltunian]

Right of the bat, saying that we always find ourselves restoring ourselves to being governed by or participating in the anti-rivalrous as our primary mode seems like a profoundly anti-Girardian point. I guess you could argue that the scapegoat was deified precisely because it ended rivalry temporarily, but a provisional cessation of rivalry is not the same as anti-rivalry. The state of prelapsarian Adam and Eve is described as anti-rivalrous, but after the fall it is difficult to argue that humanity's primary mode is anti-rivalrous. Christ and the cross restore the possibility of participating in an anti-rivalrous mode, but even then can you really argue in good faith that it is our primary mode?

[@grailcountry]

Christ is the primary mode. “The Word of God, very God, wills that the mystery of his Incarnation be actualized always and in all things”

[@mlts9984]

I am a Samaritan literalist.

[@TheOlajuwon94]

Which book by Emil Bock are you guys referring to? Thanks!

[@grailcountry]

Apocalypse of John

[@TheOlajuwon94]

@ thank you!

[@Slackarius]

You can have Ares, I'm more of a Hermes or Loki fella myself.

[@grailcountry]

@@Slackarius Loki it is, Vervaeke has dibs on Hermes

[@HaigAltunian]

@@Slackarius keep this guy away from the horses and goats.

[@Slackarius]

@@HaigAltunian You want a Sleipnir, that's how you get a Sleipnir

[@jonathonray6198]

The word force is so weird for this.

[@grailcountry]

That's why it's an Arcanum

[@nathanfilbert2649]

30 minutes in... waiting for conversation...or why Jordan is here??

[@grailcountry]

It's in the title, and it's definitely a conversation. He was here to discuss the Arcanum of Force, he's read Tomberg. I have no idea where this is even coming from

[@nathanfilbert2649]

@@grailcountry sorry it just seemed he was listening most of the time. Apologies.

[@grailcountry]

@@nathanfilbert2649 Well we both can take a while to complete a thought so I actually went back and watched to make sure I was not unintentionally domineering before responding to your comment. At the very beginning I tried to defer to Jordan but he really wanted me to establish a couple of things we had talked about in the pre-recording conversation.