Jordan Peterson: How Autism and Intelligence Connect

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4 жыл бұрын

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Jordan B Peterson (born June 12, 1962) is a Canadian clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. In this clip, he talks about autism, the ability of abstraction and intelligence.
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S Жыл бұрын
As a girl with Asperger's, I generally have struggled speaking with other women. It sounds harsh, but the emotions tend to drain me completely and it feels quite unnatural. I tend to find hanging around with boys or tomboys easier, as they tend to lean more towards talking about things and ideas as opposed to feelings and people.
space fan
space fan 6 күн бұрын
YES!! That's why I feel so better with them!!! Thank you :)
Jonny B. Goode
Jonny B. Goode Ай бұрын
That's rather interesting. As a man with Aspergers, I generally prefer the company of women. (Paradoxically-or perhaps not?-actually having relationships with women is cripplingly difficult.) So, you're not alone in feeling out of place. Although I can say I do NOT understand their emotions either, which probably explains the relationship part, lol. The only relationships I seem to have are when the woman initiates it... and they're usually also on the spectrum. I have a few male friends, but I distrust men in general. I even enter my male friends' homes with uneasiness in the back of my mind. They... smell funny. Not literally (although sometimes!) but in the back of my mind, something's off, somethings a bit creepy. Much like Neanderthals trying to associate with Homo Sapiens, I would imagine; a feeling of "not like us." At the same time, I think that most men (and women) have the exact same reaction to me; as one researcher put it, I fall into the "Uncanny Valley" as most autistics do.
Brandy Hartman
Brandy Hartman Ай бұрын
I’m non autistic and a woman. But I do agree with you relating to other women. Boys are a lot more easier to relate too. Women are very emotional. 😊
Idunn Myhr
Idunn Myhr 3 ай бұрын
Ahaa Thot I was just not girlie enough
icebreaker900
icebreaker900 4 ай бұрын
TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST BEFORE ITS TOO LATE, GIVE YOUR LIFE TO HIM AND START WALKING IN OBEDIENCE, WITHSTANDING FROM ALL SIN AND WICKEDNESS, JESUS SAID THE PATH TO HEAVEN IS HARD AND NARROW, AND FEW FIND IT. MATTHEW 7:13-14, HEBREWS 5:9, JOHN 14:15, MATTHEW 7:21-26, 1ST CORINTHIANS 6:9-10, JOHN 3:16-21, JOHN 10:7-8, MATTHEW 10:26, AND LUKE 13:5. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
Tanner Stone
Tanner Stone 10 ай бұрын
Grew up not knowing I had Asperger’s but after learning about it more I realized that it was more of a help than a hindrance. Growing up was a little rough not catching on to social signals as quick as other kids but once you get past that it turns into a superpower. Big thanks to my parents for treating me as a normal kid and not allowing me to believe I would be harmed as an adult by this condition.
Mina and Me
Mina and Me 3 ай бұрын
I think I had a great mixture of luck with my parents and schools, I'm very high functioning, I just sometimes get overwhelmed or distracted by external stimuli of any kind (has to be an extremely high level of them for me to really bother me anymore, though) and then I need some time for myself to recharge. I was never diagnosed with anything on the autistic spectrum, yet. But I've always suspected it. I've got other Mental Health diagnosises though, but I'm doing better than ever. Now I have a few good topics to mention at my next talk with my Psychiatrist. It truly can be a superpower.
Puggelicious
Puggelicious 3 ай бұрын
how is that a super power?
J Hop
J Hop 4 ай бұрын
I was the same.. didn't know until my mid twenties.. and I was diagnosed because of how overwhelmed and anxious I became having to put a strong exterior on to hold a demanding career in Youth Work. I have a high IQ, but I struggle with social interactions.. even though I am well polished in conversatiom thanks to my parents never treating treating differently.. it just doesn't feel comfortable.. and too much of it is emotionally and physically draining. As a female aspie Dr Tony Attwood has helped me understand myself a lot better.. I would suggest other female Aspies, or those who love a female Aspie to look into his work 😃👍
icebreaker900
icebreaker900 4 ай бұрын
TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST BEFORE ITS TOO LATE, GIVE YOUR LIFE TO HIM AND START WALKING IN OBEDIENCE, WITHSTANDING FROM ALL SIN AND WICKEDNESS, JESUS SAID THE PATH TO HEAVEN IS HARD AND NARROW, AND FEW FIND IT. MATTHEW 7:13-14, HEBREWS 5:9, JOHN 14:15, MATTHEW 7:21-26, 1ST CORINTHIANS 6:9-10, JOHN 3:16-21, JOHN 10:7-8, MATTHEW 10:26, AND LUKE 13:5. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
Charles Mason
Charles Mason 4 ай бұрын
@Richard Evans I know it sure makes for some brilliant mental pictures. The problem is that some of them are so bizarre that you know you dare not share, so sit there in the corner giggling inappropriately. Just my experience with it.
KaîÇee Crane
KaîÇee Crane 4 жыл бұрын
As an autistic person who sees a lot of misinformation about about autism, I wanted to write a short description of not only what autism is but what it is like to have it. This is based off of my own experiences as well as other autistic people I have talked to. Autism is a different way the brain can be "wired". Some observations may lead an outside observer to think one way, but without the rest of the context it can be very misleading. People with autism take in more information from their surroundings. While doing some activity the neurotypical person (not autistic) may take some time to process said activity and some of their surroundings, an autistic person takes in everything around them that is going on while doing an activity. Take eating lunch in cafeteria for example; while sitting with their friends a neurotypical person will be eating food, talking with their friends, and listening to what they are saying while an autistic person will be doing the same while taking in every sound difference in their friends voice, eye movement, body language, and doing all of these things with anything they also see and hear. Because of that a delay in time to respond may occur as they are taking in and processing more information before they can respond. A lot of autistic people also have Sensory Processing Disorder, which is a disorder that manifest itself in such a way that the individual with it processes their senses either more dramatically or less. Let’s use the cafeteria example again: the autistic may be hearing every noise and conversation at once in that room, and while the lights may be fine for some people, they may be so bright for an autistic person it is physically painful. This can get overwhelming as all of this stimulus can be too much. Stimulus is any information gathered by any of your 7 primary senses: sight, touch, hearing, smell, taste, proprioceptive (sense of where you are in space and movement), and vestibular (sense of balance). While these are external stimuli, internal stimuli can affect an autistic person in the same way; internal stimulus being things such as stress or anxiety to name a few. It is important to let an autistic person know how they live and process information is normal and fine, there is nothing wrong with them. They are perfectly normal people, just with a nerotype that isn't typical. Too much stimulus can cause a meltdown sometimes, or a shutdown. A shutdown is straightforward as they just shutdown like a computer and need to rebute away from all that stimulus. A meltdown is when the autistic person goes into a fight or flight response, where they will act accordingly as does anyone when their subconscious feels threatened. Keep in mind, too much stimulus is painful, and can be drastically so. You could say that a shutdown is when the fight or flight response goes so extreme they freeze. To combat all of this stimulus an autistic person needs to do one of two things, and may sometimes need help doing them: 1.) Remove the negative stimulus, say like going somewhere darker or quieter 2.) Stim. Stimming can be with any of the 7 primary senses as it replaces bad information, or stimulus, with good. This may be repeating some sound, rocking back or forth, touching some textured object, or hand flapping. These are just a tiny few examples of stimming. Stimming is good stimulus, so an autistic person may stim sometimes just because it feels good to do so with no other reason or maybe to express themselves as is natural and feels good to them. Sometimes when an autistic person has too much negative stimulus they may become nonverbal, or in other words may not be able to talk or use their words. Sometimes they may still be able to make sounds, write, or communicate in some other alternative fashion. Some autistic people take in more stimulus than other autistic people, and can be prone to experiencing more meltdowns and being nonverbal. Nonverbal occurs when the mind and body has to divert resources to dealing with other tasks. An autistic person may normally not be nonverbal but become so during a meltdown or when overwhelmed. Sometimes instead of being nonverbal, there might be a stutter instead. An autistic person has a certain amount of “spoons” they have for every day. Spoons are the resources (mentally, emotionally, physically) you can use to do some task. Some days you may have more spoons, and other days you may feel like you have none. Getting up out of bed cost spoons, dressing oneself cost spoons, brushing your teeth, showering, eating breakfast, going to work, going to class, anything you do cost some amount of spoons; with little resources of spoons available, you may only be able to accomplish only a few tasks, and that is perfectly okay. Sometimes a task can cost a lot of spoons, and sometimes the same task may cost more spoons than other times. Sometimes looking at a person's face or communicating with someone can be difficult. Communication is like a dance, and can be very difficult to follow. There are 3 ways of communication: what is said, how it is said, and body language. A person's face goes through a lot of changes over a short period of time to reflect how they are feeling, and looking at a person while talking can take a lot of spoons at time. It can be very overwhelming to try to pick up on a lot of cues people have in any form of communication. A lot of times an autistic person may only focus on one form of communication, if any, to be able to communicate. Communication in of itself (talking, listening, changes in subject) yet alone looking at some, taking in all the noise, and light, among some many things happening at once can be too much. If things feel that way, that everything is overwhelming, it is okay to remove yourself from that situation or choose not to be there in the first place. There is nothing wrong in taking care of yourself.
Ccaroljacob.
Ccaroljacob. 4 ай бұрын
Wowww… thanks ❣️
icebreaker900
icebreaker900 4 ай бұрын
TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST BEFORE ITS TOO LATE, GIVE YOUR LIFE TO HIM AND START WALKING IN OBEDIENCE, WITHSTANDING FROM ALL SIN AND WICKEDNESS, JESUS SAID THE PATH TO HEAVEN IS HARD AND NARROW, AND FEW FIND IT. MATTHEW 7:13-14, HEBREWS 5:9, JOHN 14:15, MATTHEW 7:21-26, 1ST CORINTHIANS 6:9-10, JOHN 3:16-21, JOHN 10:7-8, MATTHEW 10:26, AND LUKE 13:5. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
AnnieLin Gray
AnnieLin Gray 4 ай бұрын
Very eloquent writing about autism - thanks
Natalie Butler
Natalie Butler 4 ай бұрын
@KaîÇee Crane Oh, I have 2 replies from you including this one. If there was another I can't see it.
KaîÇee Crane
KaîÇee Crane 4 ай бұрын
@Natalie Butler I'm not sure if you are able to read my response but it seems KZbin deleted it on my end
space fan
space fan 6 күн бұрын
the "best thing"? Asperger's, ADHD and very high IQ. I can do so many things...but also so less once my social battery is burnt down. I can't think easy. I only find complex solutions, easy ones don't feel right and are too easy to understand (if this makes sense for anyone). It's hard, but I am in therapy...got enough trauma to work with for the next year/s. Hope you all are doing well. Believe in yourself, but don't burn yourself out. It's okay to don't do something you would do other day .
Stevespecs
Stevespecs 10 ай бұрын
My son has Asperger’s and now an adult has so many friends. He has a college degree, is an accomplished chemist earns 6 figures , owns a house , cars, travels all over the world. When he was still in grade school, I was told that he will always need help! With love and good parenting, all is possible!
sui generis
sui generis 16 күн бұрын
@nastynatetheredneck perhaps medication might help? At least for the schizophrenia? You don’t have to live up to those predictions, you know. The lady above was told her son would need help for the rest of his life. He certainly seems to have surpassed those “expert” opinions. It seems you still have some empathy. Listen to that. Prison is a horrible place. Best of luck.
nastynatetheredneck
nastynatetheredneck 16 күн бұрын
@sui generis my family fucked me up more than it helped honestly nihilism is the way to go fuck rules you ever been told yo son got a 90% of being convicted of rape and or murder bc they told my momma tha same shit n I still be rough with girls n I always Wanna kill something
nastynatetheredneck
nastynatetheredneck 16 күн бұрын
@d I'm past aspergers bitch I'm forreal 5150 fuckin deranged killer
d
d 16 күн бұрын
Also , aspergers is not a thing. Neither are levels of it as Americans like to say. Stop perpetuating false advocates . You're either on the spectrum or you're not. High functioning autism is not a thing. Masking because of gaslighting and abuse is not high functioning.
d
d 16 күн бұрын
@sui generis why would you have a child when you suffer depression. Incredibly selfish.
Ethan B
Ethan B 10 ай бұрын
I've found that the simplest way to live with having Asperger's (high functioning autism) is to not get hung up on whether I have friends or not. I look at it this way. My brain is optimized to do solo work, not group projects.
Ethan B
Ethan B 16 күн бұрын
@d spectrum: used to classify something, or suggest that it can be classified, in terms of its position on a scale between two extreme or opposite points. "the left or the right of the political spectrum" Please research more on the topic before you comment in the future. Diagnostic language is not inherently offensive. It's simply a way of communicating as accurately as possible on the state of something and where it lies. I have Asperger's because that's what medical professionals diagnosed me with. I sometimes add the (high functioning autism) because when the diagnoses were combined it became referred to as high functioning autism. Does the concept of IQ cause you emotional distress as well? We're not all the same and it's disingenuous to imply otherwise.
d
d 16 күн бұрын
Then you would know there is no such thing as high functioning. Extremely offensive . Calling it aspergers is pretty disgusting too. You are either on the spectrum or you are not. Pretty simple. Why are you all using wrong outdated disgusting information. Let me guess...American. I bet you think it can get cured too .
Nj S
Nj S 4 ай бұрын
Yes true and I’m still have social needs- it’s like needing food and not being able to process 75 percent of it
Ryan Baisden
Ryan Baisden 6 ай бұрын
I’d agree, but I end up having friends of convenience, like school peers and work colleagues. Also, team work does generally suck, but I can find a niche of doing my own thing and asking someone else to integrate it into the group work, or go and pick holes and give advice on other’s work. I instinctively agree with the sentiment, but thinking about it it’s more complex than simply that, and integrating in one way or another is excellent for mental health. And if you don’t already I’d recommend finding similar niches.
Revenge Nerd
Revenge Nerd 10 ай бұрын
I did as well at least when younger but I still got lonely, and the older I get the more lonely I get.
Water Bug
Water Bug 10 ай бұрын
I have Asperger's, 65 year old man. My career was creating software. I worked at more than a dozen startups from video games to creating operating systems and other consumer apps. It has always amazed me that most of the other engineers I worked with were also likely Aspie. We were told often we didn't understand people yet here we were creating games and products people loved. NT people I've known struggle creating products. When I talked to NT engineers it seemed obvious to me they had no idea how NT people work. Aspies have to study people closely to see how they behave because we really don't have a choice if we have any hope of earning a living. NT people must be interacted with on their terms. IMO many Aspies understand NT people very well, but NT people do not like what we see so they reject it. But they love to use the products we create for them. I'm so lucky computers came along when they did, just as I was starting my career. I retired 20 years ago but still write code for fun. I've been a hermit for 3 years which I like. All the downsides of Asperger's went away with solitude. Also lucky I like solitude, not all Aspies do. I feel like the luckiest person in the world.
Sergio VanNess
Sergio VanNess 9 күн бұрын
Wish I could talk to you in person. It might help me with a lot I have been going through..
Jonny B. Goode
Jonny B. Goode Ай бұрын
I agree that we Aspies, we older ones especially, have learned to study NTs just to "fit in". (And still we get it wrong a lot!) Since you're also in IT, I'll tell you a funny story. (Well, for certain values of "funny.") When I was fresh out of college (about the same time as you, I'd imagine) I applied for a computer operator job at the local air force base for one of their big IT contractors. I would be working in a cold room full of humming machines and rarely ever have interaction with the public, except my supervisors. This sounded perfect! I was however passed up for the position. My "symptoms" were extremely pronounced back then (stimming and gaze avoidance, etc.). A few days later I accidentally got CC'd an email from the HR interviewer to the hiring manager, recommending I not be hired. Reason: "Does not interface well with people." With people! 🤬 One of the first of many jobs I'd miss out on because HR is usually full of incompetents. One of the best jobs I had was when I studied everything there was to study about the new field of web design and after mastering it, applied for a job offer, then lied my ass off at the interview about what I didn't know, or told them if I didn't know it and they needed me to, I'd know it in a week or two. They remarked that I had a "non-traditional" (i.e. self-taught) educational path, and I said, "do you want someone with a piece of paper, or do you want the best person for the job?" Sometimes dazzling them with bullshit wins the day. 😅
John Mann
John Mann 3 ай бұрын
Above was for Water Bug
John Mann
John Mann 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like you are!
Svp3rN0v4
Svp3rN0v4 6 ай бұрын
@goblin queen of nilbog Spot on! When it comes down to emotions/feelings of other people. I experience those feelings of other people, so strongly, that it hurts within me. And can't process things quickly enough, i.e it takes me a very long time to get over a breakup of let's say an (intimate) and or normal relationship. When you tell people they have problems; any problem. They are usually too ignorant to admit to have them (not always).
Nuclear Cat Baby
Nuclear Cat Baby 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say we can form abstractions pretty well; it's understanding the abstractions of others where we have trouble. I can't understand mathematical concepts as articulated by a professor; I have to study it on my own and abstract it into my brain's own, different machine language, which does not compile spoken language very well.
Adapter Crash
Adapter Crash 2 ай бұрын
That's OK they don't even get it, same thing as dualistic numerology reduction into offset inverted relations just a bunch of variations in equations and graphs that move around when you reverse numbers it's actually easier and they give you all the equations in a booklet. Autists are inhumane.
Pearl H
Pearl H 5 ай бұрын
@B-utifulBruiser wow your story was breathtaking, you sound highly intelligent. Don’t beat yourself up for not having much privilege, if any. You’re an over comer and an optimist deep down, and you can bring the light into your child’s world and give them the opportunity you never had. I think there are a lot of resources they’re just not super fast to get, like with nonprofits and government programs
Claudia Bothner
Claudia Bothner 6 ай бұрын
@B-utifulBruiser: I feel you and recognize your lines. There are solutions little known. Could you afford some alternative healing treatment if you wanted to? Would you like some help? Please state what you could and would do for it, what you have done so far to manage, cope, learn and get ahead. Or would you like a comrade for success?i have been looking for someone worthy and matching to either help or to co-work with in self-help. It is a good though that you realize that you have burn-out, may have it without knowing and continue wearing themselves out further involuntarily and out of quiet despair and traumatization.
Claudia Bothner
Claudia Bothner 6 ай бұрын
@Riley Graham Humans are indivduals.= everyone is different. Autists/Aspergians are humans = we are indivuduals = everyone of us is different in personality, talents and bents.
Claudia Bothner
Claudia Bothner 6 ай бұрын
@Aomorgan Cool1 Hello, I fear you will get the opposite feelings and reactions by telling your message without considering your audience/ the recipient.It is no use saying words like you do to ppl who aren't used to them, don't know what they mean, have nobody christian to talk to and ask,and are only repelled by the "Chinese" of it. One can't just "believe" and "trust", that makes you come off as thick. What does your last sentence mean please?:" Obey Christ if you chose Jesus...".
Davidson1873
Davidson1873 10 ай бұрын
im mildly autistic. Its made me have many hyperinterests. jumping from one almsot obsession to the other. negatives. social difficulties. major ones. dating almost impossible. work and education has suffered. takes a very long time to get in the hang of things or to learn something. Also its made me not recognize abuse for long periods of time from relationships and church.
Jessica Zumbach
Jessica Zumbach Ай бұрын
I have adhd and I hyper focus on things and jump from one interest to the other
Brandon McDonald
Brandon McDonald 7 ай бұрын
My wife is a little pregnant
aspektx
aspektx 7 ай бұрын
@K That's a false equivalence. Find another if you plan on continuing to make this point.
Revenge Nerd
Revenge Nerd 7 ай бұрын
@K Theres a scale though, you can have some that have fits and seizures and require constant attention and care, and you have others that come across as mostly "normal" and can live alone.
K
K 7 ай бұрын
There’s no such thing as ‘mild’ autism, it’s like saying someone is ‘mildly gay’
Dylan Mitchell
Dylan Mitchell 4 жыл бұрын
I have Aspergers and Ive done things people said I would never do. Believe in yourself
Napoleon
Napoleon 12 күн бұрын
@mess meg Elon Musk said in Saturday night Live he has aspergers
Payton Richard
Payton Richard 24 күн бұрын
I have Asperger’s too! Currently facing homelessness because I’m stuck!
Louii Edward
Louii Edward Ай бұрын
That is wonderful to hear! Mental health has to be looked at/treated as a gift not a curse, otherwise its not fair, when we were born this way.
icebreaker900
icebreaker900 4 ай бұрын
TURN TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST BEFORE ITS TOO LATE, GIVE YOUR LIFE TO HIM AND START WALKING IN OBEDIENCE, WITHSTANDING FROM ALL SIN AND WICKEDNESS, JESUS SAID THE PATH TO HEAVEN IS HARD AND NARROW, AND FEW FIND IT. MATTHEW 7:13-14, HEBREWS 5:9, JOHN 14:15, MATTHEW 7:21-26, 1ST CORINTHIANS 6:9-10, JOHN 3:16-21, JOHN 10:7-8, MATTHEW 10:26, AND LUKE 13:5. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
Yote Slaya
Yote Slaya 8 ай бұрын
my son is autistic and i constantly worry about what he'll be in the future. He doesnt even talk now but i can see he's very smart. Maybe someday he'll talk to me and tell me what he's thinking.
Delilah Hart
Delilah Hart Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that all autistic children dislike people. I'm on the spectrum, and I was very outgoing when I was little. It was only after years of bullying and rejection that I learned to loathe humanity.
Steffi
Steffi 16 күн бұрын
@d he probably thought he was doing good tbh
d
d 16 күн бұрын
@Steffi or is that your view. His is probably different. This is why its important to have people who are trained in spectrum disorders etc.
d
d 16 күн бұрын
Same. I really fkn hate my life .
CJ
CJ 2 ай бұрын
Its based on how you were raised, like if your family was very talkative and respectful as an autistic child, its very comforting
Ann Sterzinger
Ann Sterzinger 3 ай бұрын
Oh, shut un. Male autists are playing on easy mode. Sometimes you remind me of normie women.
Jeffrey Hu
Jeffrey Hu 10 ай бұрын
I’m autistic, but I most recently graduated from San Jose State University with a bachelors in software engineering, I’m serving in the Marines, and I’m a California state champion in Muay Thai. Back in my high school days, my mom and the people around me would’ve never imagined me achieving half of what I achieved today because of my condition
Franca RAM
Franca RAM 3 ай бұрын
You have inspired me bro.🙏🏼Job well done homie. You should be so incredibly proud🤍🤍🤍
A RS
A RS 4 ай бұрын
@Exploring_Life Hello Priyanka. May I suggest you first help your son communicate and get to better understand how he is already expressing himself before you seek to "make" him communicate in a specific way, whether that is verbal or otherwise? In fact, there are many non-verbal and semi-verbal autistic teenagers and adults that are quite successful and would have a wealth of information and suggestions.for you and your son. Wishing you and your son continued growth in joy and love!
Exploring_Life
Exploring_Life 4 ай бұрын
Hi Jeffrey, this is Priyanka from India. My son is autistic and I want to help him express himself, make him verbal so that he can communicate and tell his emotions and feelings. As I can see you can write, admitting that every (autistic) individual is different, seeking your help how I can proceed. Should I go for therapies? Therapies help? ABA and all?
Rare Bird 82
Rare Bird 82 4 ай бұрын
One could argue you only achieved such things *because* of your condition. Whether that be the autism variant that gifts people with greater abilities in certain fields, say mathematics; or the recent push in society to accept all ethnicities, sexualities and disabilities to fill quotas (affirmative action), I cannot say for sure. Either way, you appear to have conquered the impossible, so well done you ✌🏻
A RS
A RS 7 ай бұрын
Congrats Devil Dog! Fellow Autistic Marine here! ✊🏾 My daughter is autistic/ADHD and was also doing Muay Thai and JiuJitsu.
Marie M
Marie M 3 күн бұрын
I am 60 years old teacher and I draw houses with chimneys when teaching kids. That is where they get it from 😊
Spookywood
Spookywood 10 ай бұрын
I'm an autistic woman in my twenties! I was medically diagnosed by an autism specialist with Level 1 autism spectrum disorder (ASD) and Tourette's syndrome at the age of 23. I have misophonia (extreme sound sensitivity / allergy) and feel rage over certain sounds and visual stimuli. It's bizarre and causes a lot of issues in my home and school life. I was suicidal for a long time because I did not understand myself. My family was physically abusive, so I have CPTSD but channel my anger in effective ways. I have my B.S. in clinical psychology and sociology and work full-time from home in social media. I'm a musician, do research and write about cognitive science, philosophy, occultism, religion and art. I think autism helps my art and academia. Being diagnosed in adulthood is better than nothing. I could have benefitted from this knowledge as a child. It's awesome how research helps us make new biological discoveries about ourselves and each other. Who else is / was autistic and has NO clue? You can exist without knowing, but it is Hell. I was the eclectic, poetic smart girl with tons of friends. I don't feel particularly understood by many of them but keep trying. I wasn't afraid to speak up and debate. Nonetheless, I was suicidal and felt like an alien. I'm lucky I had great teachers who helped encourage me through education. I love science and literature! I also have other health and joints issues but can't afford treatment. Need to get a better savings and health insurance plan. Being level 1 autistic can easily be misdiagnosed or not diagnosed at all. Some people easily forget you're autistic and expect you not to have those traits. You're not processing info like your non-autistic friends. It is a biological difference in the way the brain is structured and functions, and it impacts your life from all angles. Your family, too. If you are level 1 autistic like me and cope decently, it still costs a lot if you don't have medical / family support. Level 2 and 3 autistics may experience mutism or intellectual disability and need additional support. In an age where so much information is available, everyone deserves to make sense of themselves and loved ones. Love to JP and anybody else reading this!
Benn Forbes
Benn Forbes 28 күн бұрын
where can you find one in PA? A specialist for autism and Asperger's.
artawesome30
artawesome30 4 ай бұрын
I was just diagnosed last year, at age 22. Incredibly surprising discovery. I know little to nothing about my condition, so reading posts from people like yourselves is very helpful!
Marija Blanc
Marija Blanc 8 ай бұрын
I have never read anything I have related more to than this post u wrote here!!!!!!!! Thank you for sharing your story !!!
Spookywood
Spookywood 8 ай бұрын
@The Matrix Thank you! It's one of those "wait until you're older" scenarios for now. There's no way I can afford what I need, but hopefully in the next 5 years, I'll be debt free and can spend that money on the right health care.
The Matrix
The Matrix 10 ай бұрын
A naturopathic doctor might be able to assist with some of the health related issues. I recommend you try it.
Heyokan
Heyokan 10 ай бұрын
As a fellow High Functioning Autistic, I can best summarize Autism perception like this: You see a white painted wall, I see dried white paint that has cracks from house shifting, brush strokes permanently engraved, bumps from where the paint dripped down. Ngl as a child, it was all overly stimulating and scary at times. I was terrified of escalators because I had no idea how this thing was going up yet it felt like I was falling down, and often I was crying my eyes out. Ironically, I got over my fear when my mom bought me a school book from the Goodwill and I learned about the laws of physics.
kai lyja mes šokame.
kai lyja mes šokame. 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! My son so understands this., And I understand more in turn.
Sarah Studies
Sarah Studies 4 ай бұрын
My sister has a textured wall with lots of different shaped rectangles on it sloping outwards. Everytime I go to the house my eyes follow the rectangles. I ask her doesn't that wall drive you mad and she says she barely notices it....
Natalie Butler
Natalie Butler 4 ай бұрын
An artist would see all those details too.
Bok48
Bok48 9 ай бұрын
When I first learned that the universe never stops moving, that planets, stars and everything just floats around without stop, i became scared. I think it has to do with how I can't make sense of chaos, and that I got once hit square in the face by one of those thick ropes in the school gyms that was just dangling freely (the knot at the end to be exact). Ever since then I've felt weird when I look at things hanging on thin rope-like structures that does not seem to stop moving, like wrecking balls or candelabras that someone has hit their head on.
Senya P
Senya P 9 ай бұрын
Thats very interesting to hear, i find myself doing the same things, and somehow it is satisfying and calming to have your eyes explore and look for all these small details. This actually helps me do my job as a finish carpenter. I have never thought about it as some kind of sign or flag for autism, but just a great attention to detail, until my oldest son got diagnosed, and now i really think that he got it from me.
Sparklez Supreme
Sparklez Supreme 10 ай бұрын
As someone who's on the spectrum who can do math in their head 99% of the time I always was accused of cheating throughout school in math class because I was always the first in class to finish the paper and would always get 100% on tests despite never studying and never showing my work and I only had one math teacher that understood me. He was at first skeptical about me cheating but he put me to the side one day at school and he handed me the test he planned on using at the end of the course and he watched me take the test (algebra 1 as a 7th grader the class i was in was the gifted class) and after I completed the test which was 15 questions in 5 minutes and got all questions right and I didn't cheat and he was shook and never accused me of cheating in his class again. Point is just because someone can speed run a test in 5 minutes doesn't mean they're cheating work with them and see how they think because they just might think different than you and you gotta accept how they get the answer no matter if they're method is different than yours
blue internet
blue internet 4 ай бұрын
cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater!
Putter Vids
Putter Vids 6 ай бұрын
Bingo. “ show your work “. My God I hate that term. And then. I’d show my method. And the damn teacher would say wrong. Although I’d get the correct answer. This happened in long division. And fractions. I just use memorized multiplication tables to solve close as possible , then subtract for the remainder. Very easy. No real pencil work needed. If you know multiplication table into the 100s. Ironically, this type closed minded teaching , discouraged me from following a math path. I took no higher math really , because I couldn’t deal with the teachers stupidity.
Ryan Billah
Ryan Billah 8 ай бұрын
same LOLOL i also got hypercalculia and autism. hypercalculia tends to be more common in autistic people than neurotypicals. .when the whole class was on page 1, id be on page 5 showing no work too.
Hometown Hobbies
Hometown Hobbies 9 ай бұрын
I and my son fall under the Aspy label. I excelled in math in school until i reached college. Everything was done in my head. Ended up not finishing college for different reasons but I struggled bad with math then. I could give you answers but the assignments were on how to get the answer their way. Didn't matter that I had the correct answer. Could not wrap my mind around that then. Wish there was this kind of awareness to recognize these behaviors then as there is today.
e X e d
e X e d 10 ай бұрын
​@SaffronTown gg
khfan4life365
khfan4life365 10 ай бұрын
I’m a woman with Asperger’s. I don’t really see myself as very intelligent, but my dad told me that I have this ability to read any book and remember information from it. He described that my brain is like a sponge, constantly taking in new information and being able to repeat it. Mind you, it only applies to visual information, like books, websites, etc. A lot of times, I forget new information if it’s auditory.
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d 16 күн бұрын
Small percentage of autistic people are savants. Such a misconception. Did they tell you that with the fake aspergers diagnosis.
Lexx
Lexx 4 ай бұрын
@The E Guy me too!
Lexx
Lexx 4 ай бұрын
I'm visual like this as well. I have a photographic visual memory. I also remember music in creepy detail. I totally relate to you!
The E Guy
The E Guy 6 ай бұрын
similar for me except it's auditory i can remember any song i heard once whether that's 5 minutes ago or 10 years
Anime4Life !!
Anime4Life !! 10 ай бұрын
i was told i would never even graduate, let alone be successful in life, thanks to autism, tourette syndrome, ADHD, severe epilepsy, and learning issues. here i am almost 30 years later not only graduated with honors, but also got a job i love, not even a single penny of debt, lots of money in the bank, i'm a martial arts instructor going on 7 years now, and i live on my own. we may have disabilities, but that doesn't mean we're completely broken and worthless.
Anime4Life !!
Anime4Life !! 10 ай бұрын
@MindYourOwn no worries :). i believe i've heard about that channel but never actually checked it out. might have to do that now. but what you say is true, bitter people will go out of there way to make your life miserable but if you just laugh it off and move on knowing that their words don't mean anything, the only ones who get pissed is the crybaby themselves.
MindYourOwn
MindYourOwn 10 ай бұрын
@Anime4Life !! I agree, a lot of people think the internet is a horrendous thing but if you use it in the proper way it’s far from that. You can find a lesson in anything if you try to. It’s a lot of smart people online. You just gotta remove the bad influences. Growing up I never rly had anyone to show me right from wrong so the internet (and influential strangers have been all I got) has meant a lot. I try to find a lesson In everything, many others disregard things but I like to analyze. Ig we just think diff idk. The biggest thing ive learned is never let anyone judge you, A lot of ppl will sit all day and just bully acting like their words really mean anything when they don’t. I could go on but the last thing I wanna say is it’s relieving to find someone who thinks like me. I’ll check out Calliope Mori. Meanwhile, You might find the channel named Reaction Therapy insightful. Sorry In advance for the lengthy response.
Anime4Life !!
Anime4Life !! 10 ай бұрын
@MindYourOwn oh believe me i never let anybody define who i am and do my best to help those who need it. there's a Vtuber i hold great respect for called Calliope Mori due to her stance on things. in her one song, Off With Their Heads she has a line that reads: "those with devotion to the mission straight devour the weak, an ocean full of competition get your actions to speak. you can't be strong if you give up after just a miss in your streak, i'll say so long with a slight of the Scythe and a light kiss on your cheek" as well as "You going to throw in the towel and quit when your body starts bleeding? you'll say goodbye to glory, next, 'hello' to never succeeding". these two parts i've made my words to live by and have even quoted them to my students if they felt like they weren't doing good enough or they needed a little motivation. the character "Calliope Mori" may be fictional, but the meaning behind those words hits like a bullet.
MindYourOwn
MindYourOwn 10 ай бұрын
@Anime4Life !!Hey, I view it as I’m trying to give knowledge. If someone’s failing it doesn’t mean you’re a bad teacher. They just gotta get accustomed to it. No one’s a genius overnight, even if their teacher was mr miyagi. U trying to influence that’s all that matters. In elementary school I tried karate and still remember my teacher and classmates, Even if the audience ur teaching Are young kids just know they’ll remember that. I’m faded so I’m gonna stop but don’t think bad abt urself because people don’t understand what you’re saying. Maybe I’ll return when i have a clear head to expand but the worlds complicated and what they think abt u doesn’t always correlate with how u really are. I view it as they’re ignorant and can’t step outta what they perceive to be true In order to understand me.
Anime4Life !!
Anime4Life !! 10 ай бұрын
@MindYourOwn i try my best to be a good teacher. i hate to see people fail at the things they try so hard at. i've been there and done that and it wasn't fun to put it mildly.
Karolina Ska
Karolina Ska 8 ай бұрын
I was diagnosed with level 1 autism in my 40s. His explanation of abstractions explains nicely why I need labels to understand what's going on. People so often chastise me for wanting to put things into boxes, but without that as a starting point, I cannot process information. This includes labeling people. In fact, this very need is why I pursued an evaluation for autism, and just as I thought, that label of autistic has been a game changer for me. My life, my quirks, my strengths and weaknesses all make sense when I see them through this label, this box called autism. Once I have the label, then I am able to slowly move away from it and understand that people and things are flexible and changing. But I must have that initial starting point be clearly delineated.
Jararaca Voadora
Jararaca Voadora 4 ай бұрын
very cool!
FreeRadical1
FreeRadical1 4 күн бұрын
Excellent commentary!
Manchurian Manchild
Manchurian Manchild 10 ай бұрын
I'm a high functioning autistic and a dad, I have multiple diagnosed disorders, Asperger's, now ASD, Adhd, General Anxiety Disorder, Functioning as an adult, especially in a high pace country like America, can be tough, dealing with stress factors, anxiety and confrontation can cause you to just shut down and go on autopilot, disassociate in bad times, and easily become lazy or complacent. Its also incredibly hard to recognize and act on red flags, I've been abused and manipulated a fair amount in my life due to my gullibility. But.. even with that, and that not being all the negatives, it grants so many boons, intelligence, creativity, hunger for learning, I think of things in unique ways and connect dots differently, Most autistic people i know are HILARIOUS too, i try myself but it don't always work. Autism is a blessing and a curse, but you should never let it define you or hold you down. Much love to everyone out there. ❤️💙
Ploopybear
Ploopybear 4 ай бұрын
@Happy Cook "3 piece suit to elementary school, used big words so kids couldn't understand what he was saying and laughed at the kids, and told classmates they were stupid." LMAO
Revenge Nerd
Revenge Nerd 10 ай бұрын
I have asked for a adhd referral as when I was a teen someone at college mentioned they saw signs of it in me but the waiting list back then to diagnosis was 1-3 years and I moved for work shortly after and about a year ago asked for a rereferral and was just told no funding and instead to put me on anxiety medication! Each time I said I felt worse or no better they upped it even more making me feel dizzy and sickly all the time. I may be anxious but its more depression which is also hard to get a diagnosis for they expect a autistic person to answer questions in a certain way which is confusing to us.
Happy Cook
Happy Cook 10 ай бұрын
@Nathan Cruz Yes Nathan, I don't tolerate bullying of people with autism. I also have autism spectrum disorder. As a teacher, I work daily to advocate for kids with autism. However it is neurotypicals who bully. So I have to use methods neurotypicals can understand and social structures. Bullying is a big problem also because some autistics refuse to try to adapt themselves to the world, like my brother. That refusal limits often the autistic person's success and encourages bullying. Example: My brother wore a 3 piece suit to elementary school, used big words so kids couldn't understand what he was saying and laughed at the kids, and told classmates they were stupid. The direct result was bullying. So we must, for every situation, look at what we can do to make the situation better. Bullying is always wrong.
Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz 10 ай бұрын
@Happy Cook I will not tolerate the bullying of people who has autism as I am.
Manchurian Manchild
Manchurian Manchild 10 ай бұрын
@Happy Cook agreed dude! We're lucky we get to function in the world even if it is difficult, can eventually take care of ourselves. My next door neighbor's grandsons all had varying levels of autism, one of em like me, one of em that could talk but needed care, and one who could only really grunt and flop his arms, they were all very sweet, had some real connecting moments with the latter son, and it helped open my eyes a lot as a child. I'm grateful for the experience and my place. 😊
Aquilenne
Aquilenne 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like one of the major issues is simply a focus on depth of understanding over speed. I've found that high functioning autists tend to simply be more reflective than your typical person and attempt to map out what the possible outcomes are, this takes quite a bit of time, as we can often see when observing the number of blunders made between people playing speed chess and when they're playing normal chess. This gives rise to two major problems off the top of my head: 1) Lack of experience. It's pretty simple, more spontaneous action isn't something they're as used to as a typical person. This makes them tend to be less than amazing at spontanious actions when forced into it unless they've actively learned how to conduct themselves. The most obvious example is conversation, as often there is significant pressure not to stop and think deeply about things before responding. 2) Fear of consequences. When you think deeply and consider the outcomes of something, the dangers also become much more visible. I would make a bet that most autistic people aren't the ones marrying the first person that they come across and having unprotected sex before they can realistically support a child for instance, but that risk adversion can sometimes be a major problem in other situations if they don't understand everything, and no one does.
Drop Bear
Drop Bear 2 ай бұрын
@chris bab Do you care to elaborate on that?
chris bab
chris bab 2 ай бұрын
@Drop Bear it's all about destroying others when we have the chance.
Tomasz Zieliński
Tomasz Zieliński 8 ай бұрын
Story of my life.
Drop Bear
Drop Bear 9 ай бұрын
@Mr LOLsteveLOL You sound like me lol One Dr says I have ADHD, the next says no. Then again, It's the same with Asperger Syndrome. Never had much faith in any of them TBH.
Mr LOLsteveLOL
Mr LOLsteveLOL 9 ай бұрын
My comorbid ADHD made up for this, but created major issues of a slightly different way. Extreme curiosity, stimulation "chasing" / risk taking behavior, in general more active so I am constantly doing and combined with special interests/obsessions lead to pushing consequences aside in favor of what I am doing now. Here is the bad part, more experiences/falls/failures/embarrassments and many "events" that would just perplex me. So then comes the overthinking that even now too often will it become overwhelming, and personally I have an asshole vivid memory that perpetuates this issue? Learning from mistakes slower/differently, becoming completely averse to countless places/possible situations and even people. I could go on but no one gives a shit and I don't see an end to describing how my brain operates, (like I even could describe it :P) hahaha.
Tom Forsythe
Tom Forsythe 8 ай бұрын
I'm an illustrator, who has Asperger's. The thing that really tripped me up was to how draw things like a pile of leaves. I can draw a particular leaf. I can extrapolate from that to particular kinds of leaves. But a pile of leaves, where the pile is more important than the leaf, is really hard to wrap my head around.
Ploopybear
Ploopybear 4 ай бұрын
you're implying other illustrators have an easier time with these? Obviously the straightforward approaches of drawing 100 leaves or designing a building are difficult and the question is of frame of mind. personally laziness was a great motivator for overcoming these art struggles >:p
artawesome30
artawesome30 4 ай бұрын
I’m an autistic illustrator, as well! I have a very difficult time with repeating patterns or designs, especially when designing architecture. Characters, I can do. But “coming up” with clever, inorganic design philosophies is such a struggle.
Yung Alucard
Yung Alucard 10 ай бұрын
I go through weird phases having autism. Sometimes I’m highly functional at calculated planning, and social Norms. and then other days I lose all that, in favor of creativity and imagination, I sort of get lost in my own head. And when that happens I most of the time can’t be bothered.
kae said nopee
kae said nopee 6 күн бұрын
What you've described I've heard is called 'executive dsyfunction' it affects the way autistic people may be able to do tasks on one day and not on the next day.
Revenge Nerd
Revenge Nerd 10 ай бұрын
Thats me but because of mental health, I have always done what I felt was best in the moment but only when a traumatic event in my life occured everything slid more and more it was whatever stimulated me before that i.e I would play a game and get so into it I may do something like decide to not go to class as I was that into it, I would go to gym for 30 minutes and be there 3 hours later. But after that event its more like brain says "play game" and I would be like "nah, can't be bothered", If I start it I feel bored straight away but the longer I play the more my brain reacts but still not that stimulated.
Astral Beatz
Astral Beatz 10 ай бұрын
Socialize more often. Your head will clear up and your creativity will return.
Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz 10 ай бұрын
Me too.
6.1
6.1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a borderline autistic and this hit home for me, I am very misunderstood and neglected in all social converse/interactions with family and friends throughout my life. I live alone and a Cosmology student and let me tell you, I have never found happiness like this.
DCmastermind First
DCmastermind First 14 күн бұрын
I don't understand how you can be borderline autistic. You either have the traits or not.
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d 16 күн бұрын
@uhnee uhnjee no its actual fact.
Josh Plowman
Josh Plowman 6 ай бұрын
@DCmastermind First I don’t want to speak for anyone, but they may have meant “I have borderline (Borderline Personality Disorder) and autism.” I deal with each of those conditions, along with Bipolar, and I have been described as a BorderPolar autistic.
Randal Colucci
Randal Colucci 10 ай бұрын
Dr Grandin received her PhD from the Univ of Illinois and is an animal behaviorist whose focus is farm animals. Her last position in academia was at Colorado State University.
MelitaJay
MelitaJay 10 ай бұрын
Of course you can be borderline autistic. It simply means you come very close to qualifying as having an Autism diagnosis but you don't have severe enough symptoms to quite cross that line. Hence "border line". It's really not that hard to understand...
Costandino Demetriou
Costandino Demetriou 4 жыл бұрын
"They don't like people" that hits hard with me, most people frustrate the hell out of me
D Ay G
D Ay G 2 ай бұрын
@英語わかりません AHHHHH I FREAKED OUT READING THIS FAX UPON FAX ON RAX, FAX ON STAX.. just spitting fax lel. Nah yea fr very well put man, everyone be like this
Still Gaming™
Still Gaming™ 6 ай бұрын
I love humanity but actual interactions with humans endlessly frustrate me
Sherry D.
Sherry D. 10 ай бұрын
@Elizabeth von Hillmann Joy to you! We, as a culture, are taught to respect intelligence, but punish difference. There is no greater gift than loyalty. At the end of the day when in crisis, when only you show up without revenge, avarice, or malice in your heart, they won't remember they ever thought you weren't good enough. Re-engineer the hell out of their shit.
Vinamr
Vinamr 10 ай бұрын
@英語わかりません you know, since u chose to ignore the point ppl were making while in your original comment u said "emotion clouds their judgement and u can't have a logical conversation with them"
Vinamr
Vinamr 10 ай бұрын
@英語わかりません that makes sense lol
Will Cee
Will Cee 10 ай бұрын
It’s cool to hear that intelligence is basically your ability to absorb translate and use knowledge to your benefit because I’ve recently figured that out haha. One thing I noticed was that people around me would often call EXTREMELY fit people dumb meat heads but I’ve personally always respected them because I see their body as literal proof of their intellect about fitness and health.
Ursula Gwozdz
Ursula Gwozdz 9 ай бұрын
@Tiberiu Stoica not true.
Tiberiu Stoica
Tiberiu Stoica 10 ай бұрын
bodybuilders are dumb as shit in general, that's why
Drop Bear
Drop Bear 10 ай бұрын
"Healthy body. Healthy mind". The two go hand in hand with each other. Diet is a big deal as well. Especially for those that struggle with depression.
Diamind
Diamind 10 ай бұрын
They are just jealous, and lazy.
The pl8gue D0ct0r
The pl8gue D0ct0r 10 ай бұрын
@yG KeKe There’s a difference between being extremely fit and extremely juiced to the gills, big arms and muscles doesn’t mean fitness, them bodybuilders can barely outrun your average human in a mile run, my version and In my opinion the true extreme fitness people are the casual people of their sport, the powerlifters that don’t use steroids for example
Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman
Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman 10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised how accurate you were able to depict everything. Also, I'm impressed with how you were able to simplify a very complex dynamic that is our mind in such a simple way for everyone else to understand. Glad you could at least help others be more understanding.
Cpt Cap
Cpt Cap 10 ай бұрын
I got ADHD and Aspergers aswell as speech problems. I’ve progressed alot throughout my 23 years but I’ve also been through really hard times. I’ve been depressed and suicidal for several years now and I’ve tried to end it a few times but I just couldnt get myself to go all the way. Deep down I want to live but I just don’t wanna suffer anymore. I have high intelligence but I don’t know what to use it for because it doesnt feel like I fit in anywhere. I apologize if my English is bad, it’s my third language.
Patrick Parmer
Patrick Parmer 4 ай бұрын
“Deep down I want to live but I don’t want to suffer anymore” That hits hard, right there.
Mr. GoodBass
Mr. GoodBass 5 ай бұрын
Don't let other people's opinions become your reality. There are many great things you can do with your life. Such as help others in the same position as you, you can literally help millions of people across the world.
Brittainy Medrano
Brittainy Medrano 5 ай бұрын
I feel this in my soul …
Modern Existence
Modern Existence 5 ай бұрын
Hey mate, would you be interested in having a video call sometime? I'm 27 with ADHD and autism and I've had a similar experience with life. My life is mostly good now, with the exception of bouts of loneliness, but I feel like we could help each other.
Jordan Zinom
Jordan Zinom 8 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry for your struggle. I’m rooting for you and you are important to this world. 🤙🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽❤️
Jesus Is Lord
Jesus Is Lord 11 ай бұрын
My son and I were diagnosed with high functioning autism and although there are things we really struggle with that the average person doesn't, there are also things we can easily do that others struggle with. It's a blessing and a curse, so you just need to find your strengths and make that your focus in life to succeed.
Jesus Is Lord
Jesus Is Lord 10 ай бұрын
@Clovis Merovingian I have been my whole life and it has been confirmed throughout my life. I have seen and personally experienced enough to know it. But even if I had never seen anything, it's the one thing I actually have emotions about. The kind where you have an innate knowing or gut feeling about. The actual things i have experienced are just a confirmation for me. Sadly, many people just don't get to see or experience it so they don't understand.
Clovis Merovingian
Clovis Merovingian 10 ай бұрын
Interesting seeing another autistic Christian. Most of the others I've seen are atheists sadly. I'd probably be one too but I've seen too many miraculous things to be an atheist.
Adam Watkins
Adam Watkins 10 ай бұрын
Years ago I started to question why I think the way that I do and in my mind, it made sense to me that autism is more of a spectrum versus a defined problem. Just found a document from when I was in 2nd grade that said I had an advanced method of showing abstract reasoning. Honestly the definition of autism is abstract in itself. This video makes me proud that I wasn’t crazy by self identifying my odd way of thinking. Intelligence and unique thinking should always be hand in hand.
Drop Bear
Drop Bear 10 ай бұрын
@PB in SB I was the first person in the world to buy a new kart that came on the market. Built in Vic, so, wanted to support them. I picked the kart up, practiced a few times and played with the set up. Every change I made produced lower lap times. Saw my main rival at the kart shop during the week, and told him I had his number, and I was gonna flog him this weekend. I'm at the track, he turns up with no kart. I was bummed out, because I knew I could have beaten him. Just before racing started, I see the team truck, of the kart I bought, pull into the parking lot. My main rival arranged a drive in one of their karts, so was going to be in the same kart as me. The team driver of the chassis I was using came over to check my set up. He says "You can't do that, and you can't do this". I said "Don't worry mate, I do things differently". He looked at me like I was a loser. I started last in the first heat, rival started from pole. I was in 2nd after the 3rd turn, shadowed him for most of the race, then past him on the 2nd last lap. The lead changed 4 times on the last lap, I had the race in the bag, and he punted me off the track in the last corner. I still finished 2nd. And that was the race I'll take to my grave. I checked his kart before the next heat, they were running the same set up as me. He kicked my ass in the 2nd heat, and I started from pole, he started from last lol It's not about winning, It's about the challenge in trying to win. The race I'm proudest of, was a 2nd place finish. I hope you sleep better knowing that.
Drop Bear
Drop Bear 10 ай бұрын
@PB in SB One bad part about being a aspey, is not having a good grasp on sarcasm lol
PB in SB
PB in SB 10 ай бұрын
@Drop Bear Wow...Brilliant..."if you do everything the same way as everyone else, you'll get the same results as everyone else."
Drop Bear
Drop Bear 10 ай бұрын
I raced sprint karts. When you start, you get given a mentor kind of thing. They show you how to do everything. It's a controlled class, so everyone has to use the same tires, same fuel, same engines etc. So, everyone pretty much does the same thing in regards to setting up the kart. I think differently, obviously lol. Didn't take genius to work out, that if you do everything the same way as everyone else, you'll get the same results as everyone else. Thinking outside the box, and doing things differently, can be a clear advantage. I won 2x Australasian Titles in 5 years 😁 Different is an advantage. Logic 101.
PB in SB
PB in SB 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for telling your story. I worked as an assistant in schools with young kids. I loved, loved, loved the kids on the autism spectrum. I found them to be highly intelligent, we need them and need to honor and respect them. We are all on some sort of a spectrum with degrees of capabilities.
Chad Smith
Chad Smith 10 ай бұрын
Well, I’m sufficiently blown away. I’ve never heard anyone describe how the mind perceives and categorizes iconic representations. When I was a kid, I always wondered why adults couldn’t seem to notice the incredible visual details of the world. Now I realize that they had abstracted the world into icons so that they could survive and act meaningfully. Thanks again, Dr. Peterson.
lewisner
lewisner 6 ай бұрын
I had a weird thing happen maybe 30 years or more ago when my late mother and I were talking in the kitchen. For about a minute it was as though I had never spoken to her before and I could hear and see everything in super detail like it was completely fresh . Then it went back to normal. It was very disconcerting.
Michael Waters
Michael Waters 10 ай бұрын
@Lucas Fernandez there are just people like me with high IQ, who can abstract but also focus on details, get obsessed occasionally, but also get distracted by everything becouse your interested in everything. There's no subject we can't talk about on some level of expertise. Is my EQ the highest? No, but that does not make me autistic, just makes me a male.
Chad Smith
Chad Smith 10 ай бұрын
​@Lucas Fernandez An everyday superhero.
Veronica Griffin
Veronica Griffin 10 ай бұрын
@Lucas Fernandez l do that as an artist, its a very handy cognitive tool ( switching) and although noticing everything uses a lot of brain energy its way better than living in a world that your brain invents, a projection, that looks like really sketchy AI, you wouldn't want to be neurotypical it's a very gray world from what l am told. Massive need for stimulants to compensate. So you are switching from right brain to left brain mode, is a very rough explanation.
Lucas Fernandez
Lucas Fernandez 10 ай бұрын
To be honest I notice all the details in the world but I also can create those icons of everything around me. What does that make me ?!
Jacob hall
Jacob hall 4 ай бұрын
Found out I very likely am autistic about a year ago, and it explained a lot about my childhood. I've always naturally had a way of talking that could be described as "Lawyer-like" where everything had to be correct, where I would add in unnecessary qualifiers because without them the statement wouldn't be entirely correct. Strangely enough, I still really enjoyed taking with other people, it just turned out I was bad at it until I tried actively training it and working on being able to talk to people. On the plus side, I got math as a special interest and now I'm getting a degree in math where I can even stand out among my peers in terms of performance in my math classes, so that's neat.
Robert Blakemore
Robert Blakemore 4 жыл бұрын
My brain can do wonderful things and my Aspergers cages me in many ways. It is a paradox. I know others have gotten the "Why aren't you able to do X, you're so intelligent. I think you are just lazy." It amazes me that the people posting in this forum are extremely articulate and yet we are alleged to be "slow to learn language". When I tested I had a 34 on a scale of 50. My I.Q. is supposed to be 145. Yet I cannot do a quadratic equation to save my life. I understand the concept but it seems to me that the numbers are being pulled out of a magician's hat.
Yeshua is Messiah
Yeshua is Messiah 5 ай бұрын
I'm just gonna say, you should study numbers, themselves. Discover the depth of what 'counting' is, how addition is simply repeated 'counting', and how multiplication is simply repeated sets of counted numbers, i.e., repeated addition. Once you truly grasp this, algebra and the whole of mathematics starts making a whole lot more sense.
Revenge Nerd
Revenge Nerd 10 ай бұрын
@Levi Bull As a adult in late 30's I still can't tie my shoelaces correct, I didn't learn until I was around 11 when i spent about a hour with my dad to tie them at all, now its like I tie a knot but its a weak knot that comes apart very quickly, I can't even put a tie on correct.
Revenge Nerd
Revenge Nerd 10 ай бұрын
@shadowfox933 Im the same but numbers near 140 but even then as they average things I can be excellent at one part of say maths and bad at another so they lower my score, and when they make an average of my IQ from maths, Writing, Speaking etc it would lower me down. I always see myself as a jack of all trades but master of none.
Revenge Nerd
Revenge Nerd 10 ай бұрын
@Deathy5420 I have always been good at pure numbers like give me a basket of food and I can work out how much the cost is in seconds (though a lot is guessing if I don't know price) ask me to do trig though and I get very confused. I generally have always been a excellent speller but terrible at grammar as I write like I think, quite literal with no concept of structure. For memory I can remember things from my childhood down to what I was wearing though now im older that has weakened to just like a ghost image rather than remember everything. That being said I can in my dreams literally recall memories from the past like watching slides.
SaffronTown
SaffronTown 10 ай бұрын
Many ways to solve or do math we just dont know how becuase somebody with high abstractions reasoning hasn't figure it out maybe it could be you?
shamanllama
shamanllama 6 ай бұрын
Have been hyper intelligent my whole life but it hasn't been much of an advantage and I'm finding out it's because I am autistic and although I am technically more intelligent that most average people, I cannot at all figure out or it's not as easy to navigate life for me, so it's not like the intelligence is a huge advantage. I will say if I was less intelligent, I do think the symptoms would be far more unbearable, because at least I completely for the most part understand it, even if I still need to learn how to actually cope. I'm 27 and just finding out.
Bailey Meadows
Bailey Meadows 10 ай бұрын
I've got aspergers, and my experience has been... Fortunate, honestly. I was raised and taught to see perception and think in the abstract, and it's not perfect and I'm no social butterfly by any stretch, but while I get discomfited easily by things as minor as a chair being out of place, or my shirt being wet, I can ignore it. I'm fortunate in this, and not ALWAYS able to, sometimes I've GOT to move that chair back, or change my shirt. Almost a compulsion, and it confuses me to feel it, knowing from my raising that it's not logical to do so. But still unable to stop myself. It's interesting. Sometimes, but not very often, problematic. Makes me really good at strategy games and things like Sim City or Zoo Tycoon.
Alexandre Schneider
Alexandre Schneider 10 ай бұрын
My daughter is autistic, she doesn’t have tantrums; but get scare with some sounds, and have difficulty to formulate full sentences, along with many other factors. Seeing all this comments gives me hope one day my little one will be as successful as you all! Thank you all
Alexandre Schneider
Alexandre Schneider 10 ай бұрын
@Happy Cook I was talking to my wife now, she actually knows what is angry , sad or happy. But she doesn’t know how to respond when somebody is angry at her, that’s the key. Do you have any idea to handle this ?
Alexandre Schneider
Alexandre Schneider 10 ай бұрын
@Happy Cook thanks a lot for the quick reply. I will print out this reply and take topic by topic in action. She just had a meltdown and start put her hand in our mouth, she uses this behavior to make us change our face expressions from mad to happy, I have scratch inside my mouth and out, I pulled her hair and her mouth the same way she did but unfortunately make things worse, she gets more and more anxious, it’s endless. I will try plan B now, using cards with different face expressions to teach her each.
Alexandre Schneider
Alexandre Schneider 10 ай бұрын
@Happy Cook hi there ! Thanks for sharing about your work and life story. I live in China (Dongguan city) for almost 16 years, my wife is Chinese and our daughter born here. She is going to a private school with ABA degree, my wife also teaches her at home after school, she memorized all words very fast, we see some improvements this past year. Last night was the worse one, she hurts my wife big time in her eye and face, she grabs my wife hair and scratch her face like trying to get my wife face close to hers, every time she thinks we are angry ( even we aren’t ) she does that. She hurt the 2 teachers already at kindergarten. I am super afraid she may hurt some kids and get us in big trouble. I tried yesterday hold her and slap her hand and make her sit down, with me works because I am strong; I can hold her back. But others like my wife and mother in law as well as kids can’t hold her back. I will try to use this method of doing same to her, pulling her hairs and scratching her too, it’s not typical but we parents need prepare them to the world no matter how bad it sounds. I also thought about creating a scene where my wife play the role where i pull her hair and scratch her and she slap my hand saying that this can’t happen while our daughter watches; giving our daughter the example or what she can’t do. It’s really hard as parents to hold up all this challenges, financially and emotionally speaking. I spend monthly over 85% of my income on ABA and kindergarten, barely can hold it together. We thought about having a second child only because I am worry one day when my wife and I get old our daughter will be alone, I am from Brazil, no family here at China. Thanks again taking your time and writing.
freedom star
freedom star 10 ай бұрын
Your daughter is going to be just fine , give her the best support you can. Let her do the things she enjoys in life :)
Alexandre Schneider
Alexandre Schneider 10 ай бұрын
@Happy Cook thanks for the comments! Yes we are doing that, in fact there is also language barrier, because my wife is Chinese so we to concentrate using one language only. My biggest issue today is she pull our hair and scratch out face when we correct her in something, I am afraid she will hurt some children at school getting us in trouble. When she see someone angry she almost scratch off the person face. Tonight my daughter scratch my wife eyes big time, very difficult times for us.
FU2
FU2 10 ай бұрын
Me and my wife have a 3 year old that has severe autism, it's really hard to take it one day at a time with this situation. Some days as a father I become very frustrated because he can't speak or doesn't feel the need to.Then all of a sudden my boy surprises the hell out of me. He has remembered 3 pass codes to our cell phones(thats numbers and patterns),surfes netflix,KZbin, and about 2 or 3 more app's like a champ. Also he turns the tv audio on which takes me 30 minutes to straighten out. If I could only get him to say nasic words. He in my mind is my little superman he just doesn't know it yet.
Clay Sears
Clay Sears 8 ай бұрын
Check out Relationship Development Intervention. It is an incredible approach to developing dynamic thinking, communication, and independence. Good luck to you guys!
Oh Kev
Oh Kev 10 ай бұрын
A-Dads stand up. You are not alone fam. Keep being the calm in the storm for him. Be the exact example of what you want for him. He will continue to surprise you. I have 3 Autistic kids.
FU2
FU2 10 ай бұрын
@DivineBeing247You just keep being yourself. Don't ever sell out. As a person who probably also an autistic person according to some of the common traits I was also treated very harshly by the world in which I grew up in but I always remained defiant to those who acted that way towards me. It's a lesson I learned growing up so when I had my little boy with autism I would be as patient on the outside towards him and as mean as a rattlesnake towards anyone who will ever try to hurt him or put him down. I don't know you but as a person I can tell you that you are a fighter. There is a quote I read when I was in 3rd grade from a medal of honor recipient from the Vietnam war that said, " you don't lose until you quit " so the hell with the past kid. Keep moving. 👍👍
DivineBeing247
DivineBeing247 10 ай бұрын
I'm autistic 28 year old male who has been rejected by mom and family because I am not good enough for what they want I don't have any one who cares about me other than my girlfriend
anissa reed
anissa reed 10 ай бұрын
My son is autistic as well. He was proverbal as well and now we can get him to stop talking. I noticed that he liked visual simulation and his SP suggested sign language. It was a little slow to start with...his looks of 'what is this' were frustrating, but funny. Soon he discovered baby signing time of his tablet and took off. He loved that he could communicate with me. He was less frustrated and so was I. Everything evolved from there...and like I said before we can't get him to stop talking, but still amazed that he is talking.
Augustus331
Augustus331 8 ай бұрын
As many commenters here, I too have been diagnosed with autism at a later age, and I was never given any preferential treatment as a kid, forcing me to become a better version of myself, with my condition. I think indulging autistic kids provides them comfort in the short term, but it will never equip it with the skills it needs to become a functioning adult.
goblin queen of nilbog
goblin queen of nilbog 6 ай бұрын
while I agree, I also think that autistic people are sensitive to things that are bad for all of humanity. Florescent lights, for instance, have been proven to be bad for people's health, which is not something autistic people need a study to verify. Loud noises also cause disharmony in the environment, and as we see today there are forms of sound torture that governments use to control crowds. Disruptive, chaotic learning environments likely hurt all people, bit just autists. Autistic sensitivity is a canary in a coal mine for humans and should be seen as a warning bell, not ignored, in the long run. I don't think autists should be coddled, I think the world should pay attention to what the reptiles of the human race are telling them about the environment - as we know, when reptiles die out, an environment is about to collapse.
Coding Apprentice
Coding Apprentice 8 ай бұрын
The people i know with Asperger's are always kind, loving and easy to like. You just have to understand that they sometimes miss-read the room a bit and that their actions actually are totally fine, but the action was a fine response to something that did not happen, and therefore might seem odd. I have worked with people all my life and i dare say my social antennas are quite good. It does not take long for me to figure someone out and pretty much know how they will respond to something. But with people on the spectrum you never will. In a way it kind of feels like i get Asperger's my self if i hang with someone who has it. This is because it's really hard to read the situation. People who are not on the spectrum gets boring after a while, but with autistic people it is always fresh and interesting. And i LOVE IT! ps: Two of my best friends have it. If i can give any tips to people who want to help people with Asperger's it is this: if they do something strange ask them how they red the situation, when they explain it their action will make total sense and people in the room will better understand them and have more empathy for them.
Timothy Blazer
Timothy Blazer 3 жыл бұрын
Ms Grandin is correct, but not in all cases. When I was young, I somehow learned to read at the age of 3, by myself. My mother was shocked to find me reading on my own. I, of course, don't remember this... In my case, my language skills still sucked, in terms of social interaction. But my vocabulary was phenomenal, and by age 5 I was reading at an estimated 8th grade level. My entire life I have devoured books! As a result, I can abstract, but it seems that the way I do it is different. For me, that abstraction is a deconstructed image made up of language, over time, expressed in a symbol..like letters. Like hieroglyphics. So apparently I understand these icons better than most normies. I still think of a particular church, as she said, but I also instantly understand iconography, if I have been exposed to it in its context. It is not true that ASD people cannot abstract...only that they do it differently, if they learn how. That's the key...learning how.
Derrick Bosler
Derrick Bosler 10 ай бұрын
We literally had the same experience its crazy, learned to read at 3 or 4 and was reading at a college level by 12 years old
Goth Bosch Incarnate
Goth Bosch Incarnate 10 ай бұрын
hmm...a person barely has a long term memory at age 3.... maybe you channeled such an ability? I was the same way concerning reading.
Happy Cook
Happy Cook 10 ай бұрын
Yes, hyperlexic. I was too at an early age. I don't see pictures in my head , I see words typewritten. Been reading, self taught, since 3.
A Fuzzy Creature
A Fuzzy Creature 10 ай бұрын
@W its very well likely that some "-tisms" are because children fail to grasp key lessons at the appropriate time so things don't "latch" together. I have high anxiety issues so maybe that's what happened in some things when i was younger. It was a thought that i might be on the autism spectrum but less so these days. There's still a lot to know about why we develop the way that we do.
A Fuzzy Creature
A Fuzzy Creature 10 ай бұрын
Grandin would admit that autism/aspergers has different manifestations. I know her co-author on that one important book, whose name escapes me, presents very different. So you can't put all things under the same umbrella. /// I had my own issues where I didn't speak until I was 3 but was full sentences and reading when I was 4. Today I think we suspect I'm more high anxiety (and worse, an extrovert!) though that doesn't explain the issue about not speaking so much. I can high level abstract so that throws out that possibility for me.
Gustavo Rodriguez
Gustavo Rodriguez 3 жыл бұрын
I met her many years ago, I will always remember her talk on gaining an occupation and how to organize your life. It was really inspiring to say the least.
Erik William
Erik William 10 ай бұрын
I was diagnosed with Aspergers when i was little and i had well over a hundred hot wheels cars and prefered the ones that looked like there real life counterpart. I could have them all on a table set in a random order to look like a residential area with a lot of traffic (Had those plastic toy roads you could snap together) and could leave them there for a couple days and come back and could tell if any of them were not where i had them. And yes when our routine gets changed without advanced noticed at least that's how it was for me it would throw me off and go coo coo for cocoa puffs. I was put in a special program which helped me to grow out of that and a lot of the other crap i did that amazed my parent's that i made it to my 18th birthday because of the terrible crap i was. I still have a slight OCD or at least what i could compare it to, but nothing like i used to. I still don't have friends at 30. Course i still don't like social interaction and not going out much doesn't help and also with people today i'd rather be a hermit. I was mainly homeschooled as the school district basically swept me under the carpet and out of education because i was apparently just the typical brat instead of acknowledging there lack of ability to handle children with special needs. How bad? I was probably 7 years old and i walked home from school i want to say around noon, and was home for at least 3 hours with no phone call from the school that i was missing and my mother was the one who called them wanting an explanation as to why. Essentially i was a brat was basically there response. There tone changed when she asked how bad does it sound that you let a unsupervised special needs child leave hours ago and still didn't know till called. Sentence structure and grammar probably not great but i never took English classes so better than nothing i guess.
Drop Bear
Drop Bear 10 ай бұрын
Wasn't diagnosed/labeled, until I was 35. When I was at school. According to them, I was just a turd of a kid, and everyone else for that matter. You got lucky. My old man killed himself, never having been diagnosed. Knowing makes life so much easier.
Varia Virus
Varia Virus 10 ай бұрын
BSc. In Mecatronics, I wouldn’t be where I am at without ADHD and Asperger’s. Married, bought a house and doing better that what my parents and teachers would have forecasted. I just embrace “me” and run with it. It has worked so far. Social skills were difficult, I had to essentially “enact them”, I’m pretty good at small talk but I have to consciously “think small talk”. I like heavy detailed conversations, I sincerely do not care about lawn mowing habits or methods nor opinions on “topics” without scientific validation. I am grateful for the way I am “wired”.
Trish
Trish 10 ай бұрын
I only learned last year, at the age of 31, that I'm autistic. It was the most freeing moment because up until then, I had been convinced that I'm some sort of defective human, hopeless to ever be anything other than that. But it turns out that my brain is just wired differently. I'm not defective at all lol
GlassButterfly12
GlassButterfly12 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting breakdown. As an HFA, I always had trouble communicating the visuals I saw in my mind in a way that other people can understand them, and I suppose Peterson's explanation of what Temple Grandin said does make sense. I'd been hoping to see Peterson delve into autism a little bit, mostly as to how someone with High Functioning Autism can figure out the abstracts represented in symbolism. While I can grasp metaphor and simile, it takes a while for me to sort it out first, sort of like putting together a puzzle where I play match the symbolic item to the possible meaning and keep doing that until the statement begins to make sense. And he's right - I avoid interacting with people as much as possible because they almost never behave in a consistent manner from day to day, which in turn creates a problem for me in trying to approach them and then to communicate with them.
Entropic0
Entropic0 10 ай бұрын
Intelligence in general is highly associated with abstract thinking. It's not just an autism thing. Most modes of thought boil down to abstraction in some form or another, and more intelligent people can handle more complex modes of abstraction. For example, nesting or recursion. Less intelligent people struggle with even simple modes of abstraction like theoreticals, e.g. "How would you have felt if you hadn't eaten lunch yesterday?" to which they will respond "But I did eat lunch."
kaity rad
kaity rad 9 ай бұрын
I struggle with hypotheticals in some situations. I don’t think it has to do with lack of intelligence though.
The Battler
The Battler 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Dr Peterson for enlightening us on autism. The community still needs to be educated on neurodiversity - that some people's brains just work differently to that of neurotypicals. Society still does not know how to value people who think differently. It's a great shame and a great waste - imagine how much progress humanity could make if we truly knew how to harness the talents of autistic people.
Vinamr
Vinamr 10 ай бұрын
@thataustriantrain746 "neurodiversity is a flawed solution to make aspires better" what does that mean? And it seemed like u were implying that it isn't a difference in the working of the brain and rather just ignorance of one's characteristics, which is not true. Therapy is different for an autistic person because they think differently, it's not about having a different personality, there's much more than that. So neurodiversity is very much a real concept and I'm glad ppl are starting to learn about it even though this video is not a good introduction to it at all.
thataustriantrain746
thataustriantrain746 Жыл бұрын
Neurodiversity is a flawed solution to make aspies better. It’s a method just to assimilate neurodivergents to society by criticising aspects that they do not fully understand about themselves. The solution is to understand how the removal of the mind’s function to socialise in a aspie impacts their whole life compared to a neurotypics. Aspergers’, from how I see is neither a disability nor a blessing, so people must never under any circumstances frame aspergers as an an issue that impairs the functioning of one. That’s the point of therapy. To help the person fix himself from functioning terribly than to make him or her just a well polished cog of the machine of society. Gear wheels will always wear out, man can’t if they look deep into the problems that are crippling them.
R A
R A 2 күн бұрын
I couldn’t even listen past the animals coming in to be tricked in a slaughterhouse 😢 poor babies. Maybe I’m not autistic after all
Erik Eriksen
Erik Eriksen 4 жыл бұрын
For some people, like myself, that borders on the autistic spectrum, I believe the overwhelming sensation and pain experienced like an electric shock when around other people may have another angle as well. As we did not connect to caregivers as small children, our (false) sense of self totally depends on total emotional disconnection to survive. As a consequence we cannot comprehend social situations. It is the connection to caregivers that structures personality and makes shifting emotions plus rejection we feel from others feel safe. I am able to deal with other people after feeling loved for a little while. It is threatening to feel the love. I think this would give hope to at least some autistic border-people.
Nemo Nomen
Nemo Nomen 10 ай бұрын
While I'm not an expert on the subject, I am autistic and I, personally, never felt significant difficulty in abstracting different concepts. I do love to think in literal and logical terms, but actually I spend the majority of my time thinking flexibly. IDK, maybe I trained myself out of it at some point.
Resident Dryptid - Pognitohazard
Resident Dryptid - Pognitohazard 10 ай бұрын
I feel the same way. While I understand and can "manipulate" abstractions, I also understand that everything is individual. I often felt myself frustrated with people relying too much on abstractions from other situations rather than focusing on the details of the individual, present situation.
Sugar Apsa
Sugar Apsa 10 ай бұрын
in all my research since being diagnosed with autism, i’ve never come across anything about abstracting different concepts. i’m a little confused where peterson got this idea
bubblessob
bubblessob 10 ай бұрын
I learned more in this 10 minute clip from Peterson about education than I did in 4 years of earning a masters degree in education.
Aaron J
Aaron J 10 ай бұрын
@Jerica Wilson
Jerica Wilson
Jerica Wilson 10 ай бұрын
@Aaron J Oh come on dude, if you've really got that sort of attitude towards KZbin then you're missing out. I'm not saying there's not a ton of misinformation on here, and I'm not even advocating for Jordan Peterson. But this platform is *powerful*. This is the new Agora, and there are brilliant people on here creating and maintaining thoughts and theories and records for all to see. There are dumbasses too, but that's unavoidable. On the other side of the coin, our education system is like a chair with 3 legs right now (I speak as a US citizen). It's still mostly functional and beneficial, but wobbly and definitely in need of fixing.
Aaron J
Aaron J 10 ай бұрын
"Tell me you're undereducated without saying you're undereducated." "I GoT mY BeSt EdJmAcAsHuN fRoM tEh YoUtUbEs!"
BA
BA 10 ай бұрын
All it takes is 1 or more great speakers to be more valuable than a masters degree.
Jared Banister
Jared Banister 10 ай бұрын
I have high functioning autism and when I was younger I didn't like change or being around people. We are very observant of our surroundings but we have a hard time recognizing social cues.
chris bab
chris bab 2 ай бұрын
Autism is pure blackpill.
Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz 10 ай бұрын
Me too.
Mark Fennell
Mark Fennell 4 жыл бұрын
I really did not understand what he was saying. So let me just give my own summary on High Functioning Autism: Think of radio antenna which is able to pick up on the lowest power energies, then amplifies the reception a million times. That is Autism. Sensory overload to everything. Abstractions and Visuals: we are actually excellent on these things. We observe, organize, and put together quite nicely. What I think is difficult in this area is an accepted paradigm that makes no sense (which leads to better solutions from Autistic person), or a teacher which didn't give something concrete as example to relate the abstraction. Focus vs Change: Imagine a truck going 80 mph, for 12 hours. Now have a deer cross the road or a sudden turn without warning. That is what happens (at least to me). My mind is whirring so fast, and so intense, that when you throw in an unexpected change, my brain crashes. People: Most people are stupid. Many are fakes and manipulators. Autistic people see through this in a second. Thus don't like people. Then being logical and ethical, we have very few peers, thus loneliness. And while other people live their lives based on non-verbal, we listen to the actual words; thus they don't understand us (not listening), and we don't understand them (their hidden messages of non-verbal). Again, I don't understand what this teacher was trying to tell us, but that is probably because I am an Autistic, and he isn't. The above words are simply my analysis through the years of my life as HF Autistic.
MKM05
MKM05 8 ай бұрын
I'm autistic and this is 100% true. I like to write and think about characters and scenarios for stories but I can't think of a setting or person on my own. I have to picture someone I know or a place I have been or seen. I had no idea this was related to autism.
Sean M
Sean M 10 ай бұрын
I have aspergers and am 35... I have known since a child.. Life was tough man... It's not anymore.. At one point, I had a teacher who told me 'I was as dumb as a box of rocks..' and many others bothered me negatively in different ways. Jokes on them.. I have a beautiful family, a beautiful home and property, and a beautiful life. The trauma pops up from time to time, but I'm here to tell you having a belief in yourself and fighting through the tough times will pay off.. We might develop later, but if you are high functioning, it comes through so purely. You end up so far ahead of others... The joy of this is if you make sure to be kind, you learn how to be awesome and nice while still taking what you need.. At this point in my life I feel above most and not in a negative or egotistical way. I just know what I know and that's enough, and how I am able to live my life and provide proves my point. Find your potential.
Talon Greenlee
Talon Greenlee 10 ай бұрын
I have Asperger’s, and my dad is a high school English teacher. I actually FOCUS on my ability to understand language to an extremely precise and granular level to be able to understand the world. It’s probably because of my dad that I understand language as well as I do, but I think it’s still very interesting that he says that autistic people tend to have difficulty with language, because that has not been my experience.
Angie Wangle
Angie Wangle 10 ай бұрын
@Talon Greenlee I wasn't saying you were offended, just that it seems as though a lot of other people got offended over saying people with autism have these issues, it's not judgment it's just an assessment. It's literally a typical characteristic of being autistic. It'd be like if people got offended because someone said bipolar people have uncontrollable mood swings and they go 'well I'm bipolar and I don't, it's rude to reduce us to that stereotype'. Like okay? Good for you if you don't struggle with that, the rest do, lol. Honestly it's good to know that if you work with a child they can learn in their own way to cope and work with their disadvantages instead of treating them as an impassable obstacle. It's not so much about being disadvantaged as it is the people around you failing you. I recently responded to a father on a video about people faking dissociative identity disorder, where he hates these people and passes judgment on those who say they have autism (like his daughter) and really don't because 'she'll never grow up normal and have a social life, these people are faking it and I can tell because of x reason'. She CAN have a social life if you work with her... He said he calls out people if they don't display the right characteristics as if people never learn how to cope or pretend to be strong. 'If you can hold eye contact, you're faking it' kind of logic.
Drop Bear
Drop Bear 10 ай бұрын
I've always used other peoples words against them, and have done very well in doing so lol Mum reckons I missed my calling in life, a barrister.
Ethan England
Ethan England 10 ай бұрын
@Happy Cook yes this is me. With practice you can pick it up.
Talon Greenlee
Talon Greenlee 10 ай бұрын
@Angie Wangle I’m not offended, I’m just intrigued at what is apparently the norm for other autistics, and seeing that its a rather stark contrast from my experience.
Angie Wangle
Angie Wangle 10 ай бұрын
@Happy Cook I mean that's basically what I was saying. That's still an outlier, an exception to the rule. Seeing as how most can't/won't/don't ever make that effort. My bf was diagnosed as a senior in HS years ago. He hates people and social interactions, he gets awkward and prefers to stay away from strangers as much as possible, but he's very smart and loving in his own way. The way he's opened up to me has been something pretty special to witness, to be honest, from how locked down he was when we met. I try to encourage him to do things that would benefit him, but I don't force him to do things he's uncomfortable with unless absolutely necessary (like taking medications or getting shots).
Anne Brasch-Verhagen
Anne Brasch-Verhagen 7 ай бұрын
I’m a psychologist and I have Autism. It was difficult growing up. Later it all worked out ok.
George Cullins
George Cullins 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the people who are chiming in with how this does not characterize them accurately (people with autism) - the term "spectrum" should be a clue as to why we should not say that all people with a condition share the same experience - speaking broadly about a topic that is clearly this complex seems very difficult, and would be choked with disclaimers in order to be completely accurate.
Christian Swenson
Christian Swenson 4 жыл бұрын
As someone with Asperger's and a huge fan of Dr. Peterson, I like the train of thought he's on, and I think it's the right train of thought (I've been on it before), but he hasn't followed it deeply enough to its conclusion. I suspect he will someday, though. Even though Peterson says things in a definite, forthright way, they're really ideas that haven't finished growing yet. This isn't a bad thing; an idea that's still growing, still unripe, so to speak, is an idea that has the power to affect one who hears it more than an idea that is fixed, definite, rigid, complete in itself. In other words, for Peterson, it's the dynamic thinking process that links together and generates his ideas which is more important than any one thing he says. That's what gives him his unique intelligence and his power to affect. As such, this video doesn't bother me even though it's incomplete, since he's picked up on threads that will lead him (or someone) in the right direction. In any case, let me give my two cents: autism is a disconnect between the will and perception. The part of me that intends, that proceeds from one activity to the next, that lives in the movement of my arms and my legs, passes over the part of me that lives in the world of data and information unchecked. It's not that I can't move or will ,and it's not that I can't think; it's that I can't (or can't easily) do those things together. As such, my intellect and my will are both there but (like oil and water) never interpenetrate When Peterson says that we can't abstract, he's noticing this disconnect. It isn't that I can't abstract -- I'm very, very good at abstraction, as you can probably tell. Instead, this disconnect makes it so I can't apply the will's unity to perceptual multiplicity. For when I move, I move *as a unit*. This seems to be a basic philosophical necessity--it's not easy to divide the parts of an event from each other, not like it is to divide the parts of a thing from each other. You can't cut a car crash in two, even if you can cut a car in two. Verbs are indivisible, even if nouns aren't. In short, we find it hard to apply verbs to nouns. This is a kind of abstraction, but it's not the abstraction of pattern recognition but (instead) the abstraction of treating something you see as something that has its own willing, motor character. It's the abstraction that lets you see "bunch of sensory data" as a person instead of as just a bunch of sensory data. The ability to see will in perception, to perceive verbs in nouns, is what lets a neurotypical person read emotions effortlessly in someone's face, and they have that ability because they don't distinguish between themselves as noun and themselves as verb. Your body acts as the first, primal "map of meaning" that lets you read the world as something significant for your projects. The table is something to grasp with your hand, the soccer ball is something to kick with your foot, etc. You see data as significant for your motor projects and your motor capacities. We don't have that privilege, or else we have to work for it. TL;DR - Dr. Peterson is on the right track, but he's incomplete. Autistic people can abstract, but we find it hard to apply *motor* values to *sensory* data, to apply verbs to nouns, which is what lets NTs read emotions in faces, be coordinated, etc.
MindYourOwn
MindYourOwn 10 ай бұрын
Based on my prior experience it’s normal for me to try to expand on thoughts to make them advanced and refined but it makes things extremely convoluted. It’s easy to overanalyze things. I still comprehend but my mind races when trying to expand a thought. Any idea as to why? Do you relate?
JusTAfighter
JusTAfighter 3 жыл бұрын
That's not what he said. He said autistic people have trouble manipulating those abstractions as you said
cbrooks0905
cbrooks0905 11 ай бұрын
I always find it interesting when neurotypicals try to explain what autism is like. From my experience, they’re never right. Only other autistic people can explain the autistic experience correctly. It’s not really that crazy of a concept when you think about it. How could a nuerotypical possibly know what it’s like to be divergent and vice verse?
kpaxian
kpaxian 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! I agree.
PurpleDevil R
PurpleDevil R 3 ай бұрын
As a child I relate perfectly with the abstractions. But now I’m an adult i can just abstract. I still prefer to think of something I know. I may have learned this intellectually, maybe I ‘grew’ into it.
The Chaz Attack
The Chaz Attack 10 ай бұрын
I have autism and growing up was definitely hard however I had people that cared about me my dad never treated me like I had autism which I feel helped my growth. The point I'm making is environment is crucial for any growth
Revenge Nerd
Revenge Nerd 10 ай бұрын
Its complicated, you have to be treated the same but at same time understand if something goes wrong the person requites support. It reminds me of what my dad said about people such as with mental health problems or severe disabilties, if they wanted to be treated the same as others that included being punished if they did something wrong else it defeats the purpose.
Candyland2381
Candyland2381 10 ай бұрын
Wow I’m really messed up right now. Wanted to learn more about autism because clearly my 3 yr old nephew has autism but my family is in denial still and refuse to get him help. I had a boyfriend with an autistic child so I recognize the signs. I wasn’t diagnosed with anything besides being slow when I was a child, but a lot of these comments I’m reading here sounds like me. I always just assumed I was slow and that was that , but at the same time I am extremely intelligent in many areas without knowing exactly why? I have obsessions, light and sound sensitivity but I’m also assuming it’s not to the extent as a person with autism, and social issues . I just recently took one of those test and tested on the spectrum but I blew it off. It was just fun curiosity. But now I’m beginning to wonder? I mean I’m 41 years old now. But I definitely relate to all these issues people are having! More common than I thought !
Carolyne Levin
Carolyne Levin 6 ай бұрын
Many women on the Spectrum don't present with obvious traits and are very good at socializing because we are good at observing others and good at mimicking behaviours. Autism runs in the family, so it's highly probable that you are too. And I'm sure that some of your family members refusing to accept your nephew's Autism are, in fact, Autistic themselves. As far as sensitivities go, you don't know how you experience the world in comparison to someone else, so why would you think that your sensitivities don't qualify for you being on the Spectrum? When you've met one Autistic individual, you've met one Autistic individual. We are all vastly different from one another. Here's an example: Isaac Newton is thought to have been Autistic, but so is (formerly diagnosed) Courtney Love. What do they have in common?...
J Hart
J Hart 7 ай бұрын
I'm autistic with adhd. I always loved being with people. The problem is I'd go naively like a puppy into social situations and be rejected. I will always enjoy the company of ND's, no matter their outlook or background. I'm happily married with a son and a career in finance. I have around 12 people who I would live and die for and they would do the same for me. Honestly, that's more than enough for me and quite frankly, I probably had a lucky escape from all those silly vapid people I would meet at parties.
Angel Dave Ramirez
Angel Dave Ramirez 11 ай бұрын
Interesting concept. We are a very unique species. The way this professor describe the study of autism and inteligence and how they are common; I agree as well. The big picture in his lecture, I am a witness of how mechanically powerful every mental disorder person think. Psychology.
TheEZGZ
TheEZGZ 8 ай бұрын
Thank You Sir !! For putting into words what I felt but didn't quite understand. Amen!
Doubleranged1
Doubleranged1 10 ай бұрын
He is wrong about abstractions. I am autistic and finding abstractions is one of my greatest talents. If anything can be learned from autism it is that generalisations and abstraction about autism are wrong.
River Donoghue
River Donoghue 9 ай бұрын
I agree. Im very abstract and I know many Autistic abstract poets and artists.
Jon Gordon
Jon Gordon 9 ай бұрын
He's speaking in the aggregate. There's no perfect point of level of Autism to be considered Autistic where everyone does the exact same thing. No group of people anywhere do everything exactly the same, but we can draw general conclusions of behavior in the aggregate.
Dale Boice
Dale Boice 10 ай бұрын
Every time I hear Jordon Peterson talk I learn something. I really enjoy how he explains concepts.
Richard Peter Shon
Richard Peter Shon 9 ай бұрын
I never knew there were different levels of autism. Very few ppl in society understand what we go through. Its still a field of study a lot of people do not understand. Autism comes in variety of colors and different for different people. You can't really put a generalized equation. For me as example, i find it difficult to summarize or shorten a context. I don't understand this concept well. Thats why i never understood physics or computer coding. I think way to logically so the emotional bend is very low. Emotions were the hardest thing to tame as i tend to over react to so many things from other peoples point of view although from my perspective i was just being myself. I never understood how and why people talk like they do. I still dont so socializing is so difficult at times. My mind moves too fast or takes in things to much at once so i didnt know how to sort things out. I have to always listen to music to slow down and preoccupy my brain to artificially put things in linear senses. This goes on forever anyways good to find same autistic people in this comments pages. Im glad internet is bringing people like us closer and that there are plenty of people like us around the world. Korean living in HK. Cheers
Kate Gowen
Kate Gowen 10 ай бұрын
It occurs to me that autistic perception is set at “one-pointed attention,” so much sought after by meditators and yogis… It would be interesting to know if there are any studies about this.
Goth Bosch Incarnate
Goth Bosch Incarnate 10 ай бұрын
Possibly. might explain a few things.
Chris Jeffrey
Chris Jeffrey 8 ай бұрын
This man is a gift to the world
Richard James
Richard James 7 ай бұрын
One of my favorite things about grad school and the PhD office was almost everyone else there was more than likely on the spectrum. It felt comfy.
Megan Lukes
Megan Lukes 11 ай бұрын
I find the fixating thing really interesting, I’d never thought about it before. If someone says “picture a church”, I picture the church I attend, if someone says “picture a person”, I think of DaVinci’s drawing of a man inside a circle and box, if someone says “picture a house” I think of this house I pass on my morning walk. No intermediary hieroglyph, it’s literally the first thing that comes to mind.
Cheryl Wright
Cheryl Wright 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who has worked in the school system with children who have emotional/social/learning challenges, I was wondering why there has been a huge rise in the number of children diagnosed with autism in the past 15 years???
kpaxian
kpaxian 10 ай бұрын
Better diagnostic measures and adding those previously diagnosed up until 2013 with Aspergers into the ASD family changed the profile and opened up more dialogue about the spectrum and helped identify more people that were always autistic but likely did not receive recognition as being autistic, such as ASD level 1 females, for example, a group that historically was under-diagnosed. As more information is coming in re: how autism symptoms manifest differently in females more girls and even adult females are now being diagnosed. I am autistic. I don't believe the number of cases is actually rising only that those who were able to mask well enough to merely slip by are now being identified and also more adolescents and adults are self advocating, mostly those who are hyperlexic and can advocate for themselves (those who might have suffered with sensory overwhelm issues and other issues but might have been overlooked because they were verbal and showed a different presentation.)
JM B
JM B 10 ай бұрын
I am a millennial. When I was a child who was speaking jibberish, I was called a weird kid with a speech impediment and OCD. I had a weird sibling who would throw fits and also OCD. Twenty five years later, that's called asperger's and autism.
Mercedes Zendejas
Mercedes Zendejas 9 ай бұрын
I really believe my daughter is Autistic (Asperger’s-high functioning autism). She doesn’t understand social cues and misunderstands people. She hates being hugged and I only get a hug from her when she request it (she doesn’t ask often and only started asking at about age 9). She she had a hard time making friends. And has a hard time making friends and when she does, it’s because another girl decides to. Then in a few weeks she’s fighting with the girl. I’m glad she now has the one friend that was her friend in kinder and 1st grade (she switched schools in 2nd grade and we moved and the new school happens to be the school her old friend goes to).
Klue
Klue 8 ай бұрын
As a father of an autistic child I find these talks to be incredibly insightful. Our medical teams struggle to contextualise the condition into practical application.
badkatz
badkatz 10 ай бұрын
I’ve never considered myself low-functioning, quite the opposite actually. But I’ve always had tics, and I don’t know how else to describe them but by associating with autism. Specifically, my hands and mouth go nuts when I am either imagining a fictional scenario or listening to music I enjoy. And typically I experience those both at the same time. The weird thing is, it feels good to do it, like I’m satisfying some sort of cranial itch when I enter my own imaginative world. When I was younger I was ashamed of the tics and experienced them in private because I knew they weren’t normal. I still hide those tics today, even from my family. I really want to look into it more and find out the root cause of it all.
Ryan Uttley
Ryan Uttley 9 ай бұрын
Ive always struggled to understand what exactly autism is. It just seems like a contradiction of terms to me which i just cant seem to wrap my head around. But this has been very insightful
Aerrin Longheart
Aerrin Longheart 11 ай бұрын
I have autism. When I was young, I drew houses with smoking chimney stacks, and churches with steeples with crosses on top. I went to a real church too, but when I was told to draw a church, I always drew the iconic church instead. I abstract things completely fine, and moving a chair or dish does not change the room to a completely different room. I do change words into icons, and into objects just fine. I read books and enjoy them a fair bit. I have been diagnosed as autistic by a psychiatrist, so I'm quite certain I am.
kpaxian
kpaxian 10 ай бұрын
@Sarah Shanahan I had more symptoms of classic autism when small including language regression and so on. There were some symptoms and red flags before this...while my language at first developed as expected I still used language differently and was interested in objects and subjects that most small children would not first gravitate towards first. I was part of a baby check up program as I was born very prematurely and they wanted to ensure nothing was wrong. At six months of age they stated I was transfixed by moving small pebbles on a window frame and would watch and study different arrangements (they noticed I was fixated on the rocks near a plant pot and manipulated them to see if that's what drew my attention) but I did not seem as interested in people or the larger objects. My first words were birdy, spy (for spider), and hot. I loved ants and arachnids and found them interesting. My eye contact was fairly good until closer to 20 months when suddenly you can see much less of it and rigid posturing of my limbs and then notes about not talking or seeming to respond to my name. About a year or so later I started talking again but in truncated sentences and shortly after that my language use deemed pedantic. I was fascinated by vacuums and would talk about my favorite brands, cleaning products and antimicrobials, and transformer stations. I also absolutely adored animals and still do. I now am an adult and only in the last few years really understood that I am autistic although I did hear my mum once reference "hfa" in conjunction with me as a child and told I was considered "high functioning" as a child. While I knew people thought I was different I did not understand what I was doing that was so different...I could not understand and so I did not know how to mask very well. Lately I am very well aware of areas I am trying to work in and it's a double edged sword especially if you grew up bullied. I work a lot on reducing my anxiety since that is when I tend to infodump, and I have found that I am better at eye contact (through sheer force of will.) I like learning more about ASDs to just simply learn more about the spectrum and I find it fascinating how the differences play out among females, too. While some of my interests would still be considered atypical (for example, movie year release dates) I now try to simply bring up subjects that are likely to be well received. It's a bit of a challenge to not instinctively try to mask (which is tiring) vs the anxiety with being more my natural self. One of my biggest issues with how many on the spectrum are treated is that we are often talked down to or in some ways almost infantalized. Sometimes it's very subtle but you can feel it when a concept that is not too difficult is explained in such a way as to make you feel inherently more defensive because the concept was not beyond your capabilities at all. On the contrary, I sometimes feel like what I know and have studied are treated like a party trick and my actual intelligence is often overlooked. I am probably not explaining very well, but I sometimes feel that many allistic people equate social awkwardness and difficulty in reading social cues as a lack of intelligence but I am fine with most academic subjects and discussions. I have difficulty more with knowing when people are being sarcastic or discerning their motives. Also, I believe that there are many stereotypes about autistic people which are patently untrue. I feel as a group we often have high degrees of empathy and feel compassion deeply. Also, not all of us are black and white thinkers or overly literal (we just have to learn the style of our audience to know what to expect), and we can be flexible with routines, more so when not overloaded. I also feel that many of the symptoms of what is thought of as being classic autism can be seen in lesser degree among those who later on might present more like a classic aspie (outdated term but we know what is meant by it) - for example, mutism when overwhelmed, echolalic features, single note humming as a stim, body rocking when stressed...it just seems more likely that we mask or sometimes are more able hide these features sometimes more completely to avoid mockery or whatnot. For example, I make eye contact now but it still feels unnatural to me and if possible I would prefer to not have to make eye contact. I have also noticed I cannot easily hold a memory of a face in motion in real life as well as I can when I watch a TV show or when I have access to a photograph and I think it is because with shows I like I will rewatch the same scenes I like over and over until I have memorized every nuance of the scene (inflection, other objects in the frame, the expression on the face as it moves etc.) In real life...it's almost too much data at once and my social anxiety also is worse. Just something I found interesting when JP mentioned abstractions and drawing houses. Perhaps the issue isn't that we cannot abstract per se but that many of us seem to need to solidify all the details and put the puzzle together into a unfied whole before we can abstract. I think this makes more sense because once I have mastered memorizing a scene I can then overlay the image with other expressions to change the picture in my mind's eye of the character. I liken it to an app that has not fully downloaded. If you try to open it...well... But if you wait for everything to download and update as needed it can work just fine. But the neurodivergent brain seems to have the extra add ons that sometimes seem to take a few extra minutes to finish downloading. If I could better cut out the extraneous sensory output this would occur more rapidly... Anyway, just some ideas. ♡
Sarah Shanahan
Sarah Shanahan 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Some people with very high functioning autism do extremely well with language... and more abstract theoretical ideas. Some individuals with severe autism may never really learn how to verbally communicate... may melt down easily with changes that the average individual may not be able to perceive and struggle to comprehend what the average individual feels is "common sense" And then you have millions of people in between. I suspect that there are some similarities these people may share with brain function... such as difficulties with normal functioning mirror nerons as well as possibly difficulties with neuronal prunining
Changer
Changer 11 ай бұрын
The issue is, every autistic person experiences their autism with different levels of intensity and often with different apparent symptoms. It's like they rolled a thousand different disorders under one label. So, what may describe autism for one person may be totally different from what another autistic individual experienced.
Marweha
Marweha 11 ай бұрын
Autistic people are so different and it can mean so much, that if a person is autistic doesnt really say anything of the person. Even w people with asberger for exemple can be completly different. Even tho its the same grade of autism lol
E Lieb
E Lieb 11 ай бұрын
I am sure that you are on the spectrum, but highly autistic people are different. My daughter is non-functional classic autistic. She sees things a lot different than a normal human being, she can't read and has a very difficult time speaking. She is 16 years old. Autism is a very brought spectrum and every autistic person has different trades.
orbik
orbik 4 жыл бұрын
I learned recently that the cause of basically all autism spectrum disorders is the speed at which synapses degrade (reduction in thickness of protective layer) over time when inactive. An autist is a person whose synapses degrade particularly slowly - or IOW, whose synapses are abnormally long-lasting. I suppose the formation and strengthening of synapses isn't affected. The effect is that small coincidences that most people would forget before consciously perceiving them, remain longer as a "viable interpretation" of neural input - which basically means that the person tends to focus on small details and see lots of patterns in static things. The downside is that such a brain is much slower at adapting to changes in the environment. Once the detail-oriented synapses are formed, there's simply not enough free brain cells left to respond to new input. So the person often fails to perceive "higher level" patterns which rely on some fast-changing low-level patterns. The most common example of this is understanding behavior of other human beings, i.e. social interaction. To an autistic child, people's behavior, facial expressions, emotions etc. are basically incomprehensible noise, unless they behave and speak extremely consistently and predicatably. In non-autistic people, variation in this synapse-degradation-speed parameter is still noticeable in that a low speed corresponds to interest in things, and a high speed to interest in people.
Carolyne Levin
Carolyne Levin 6 ай бұрын
@orbik I appreciate your theory and re-evaluation of your theory! As an Autist, myself, though, I have to mention that not all of us are socially awkward or inept. I work in an extremely social environment and when I tell people I'm Autistic, they are genuinely bewildered and try to argue that I must be veeeeeeery lightly on the Spectrum because they can't tell (obviously this is an ignorant thing to say)... So yeah, some of us are VERY good at masking, but we go home tired and ready to let our guards down.
aspektx
aspektx 8 ай бұрын
@Erik E As a child I intuited that something was off with social interaction. Due to this I spent possibly thousands if hours in the bathroom, bedroom, when walking to and from school practicing. Practicing facial expressions, tone timbre of voice, body language, the proper language to use, etc. People don't realize how many ways there are to say, Hello. All of the above come into effect. Yet practicing how to act did not help as much with why and when to act in a particular manner. I became very formal in certain respects. For example calling everyone Sir or Ma'am. All of this haunted me for years before diagnosis and comprehension arrived.
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abcdfghijlnopqrst 8 ай бұрын
That's super interesting! I work with engineers, and the trade off between technical skills and social skills seems very noticeable to me. This is also very helpful in understanding why I struggle to improve my lifestyle. I've heard it takes 30 days to build a habit, I wonder how long it takes an autistic person to break a habit? 6 months hasn't been long enough if a few instances for me.
KANI B.
KANI B. 9 ай бұрын
@Erik E this is similar to my experiences too. I'm not diagnosed as autistic, but Ive found that most people do not notice the same details as I. In general people see the overview of a situation, within a shared cultural history. In addition most can only handle relatively shorter sentences before they get lost. Anyway, best wishes 🖐🏼😊 It was nice to read such a similar experience.
Songs for M
Songs for M 10 ай бұрын
@Amanda R. BLA BLA BLA... A DIET CANNOT CURE AUTISM... COCA COLA HAS MOTR THAN 120 YEARS WORKING. NO PROBLEM AT ALL. MACDONALDS DOESN'T SAY THAT ITS FOOD CAUSE CANCER OR AUTISM. THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH PSEUDOSCIENCE... THEY WANNA PUT THE DOUBT, IF YOU CAN DO THAT... MANY IDIOTS CAN HANG ON THAT STUPID IDEA ... THE WORLD IS NOT A NICE PLACE TO LIVE, ACTUALLY IT IS A SELFISH AND HORRIBLE PLACE TO LIVE... BUT AUTISM DOES NOT HAS EXPLANATION... THERE ARE CASES IN WICH FAMILIES SAY :"OH MY SON CURE FROM AUTISM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DRINK MILK AND GLUTEN. OTHERS SAY MY SON GOT CURE BECAUSE OF ABA THERAPY. OTHERS SAY WHATEVER BUL... THEY WANNA SAY.... BUT THE REAL ANSWER IS, AUTISM IS A BIG MYSTERY, SUCH HUGE MYSTERY THAT NO EVEN THE BIGGEST PSICHIATRY ON EARTH CAN PROVIDE A FORMAL IDEA.... SO PLEASE BACK OFF WITH YOUR RADICAL IDEAS... BECAUSE IF YOU SEE A LADY THAT "CURE DRINKING COCONUT MILK INSTEAD OF DIARY, WELL FOR HER. BUT THAT IS NOT A RULE, IT IS JUST A BIG COINCIDENCE.... I HAVE MET KIDS THAT EATING MACDONALDS FOOD. THEY LEAVE BEHIND THE SPECTRUM... AS YOU SAY. THE JUST JUMP FROM AUTISM SEVERE GRADE #3 UNTIL AUTISM LEVEL# 1 OR ASPERGER... EATING MACDONALDS AND DRINKING COCA COLA... BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT CAPACITY. ABOUT GENETICS, ABOUT SOMETHING THAT NONE CAN UNDERSTAND NOWADAYS.
M J
M J 11 ай бұрын
He just explained how occult symbology is used, symbols are composite ideas compressed into a 3D visual image that is held in the mind, it’s a way of data chunking.. the symbols are then used to focus one’s intent upon. Peterson is brilliant absolutely brilliant
Im Gold Leader
Im Gold Leader 10 ай бұрын
I worked out of autism myself. I was tortured and the constant threat forced me to become aware of everything in my surroundings and counter the violence.
183314842
183314842 8 ай бұрын
This is one of the most brilliant things I've ever heard. As an autistic person I think this is spot on insight into how we think.
lewisner
lewisner 4 ай бұрын
All his stuff is brilliant. Watch his lecture "Why Hitler was even more evil than you think".
Fabian Koenders
Fabian Koenders 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Peterson is very right with his abstract thoerem. I have autism my self and have extreme difficulty with this, especially while learning programming. The thing I most stumble on is using the previous "general" knowledge I learned and applying it to "generalized" examples.
Matthew
Matthew 4 жыл бұрын
Im autistic, i am in the top 4% of income earners and top 6% for net worth in my country Australia but am still relativly young i am hoping to make 1% one day. Social interaction with groups stress me out i have read a lot of books on sociology and body language to help but i feel like a robot when talking to people. I wish i was not autistic but then i would not be as good as my job or have the motivation to get along well with people so it has helped. You can improve your situation if you are autistic im not the smartest person but am very focused on improving myself. I say the wrong things to people so keep interactions minimal, i have fucked up so many dates lol. Good luck fellow autistics you can lead what society calls a sucessful life although conecting with people is hard for me (its not them its me) I hope I did not come off as braging just telling you all you can do what ever you want there are autistic people much more sucessful than me you can make it
Not Crazy
Not Crazy 10 ай бұрын
@Goth Bosch Incarnate An inability to read social queues can be seriously detrimental, and closes off many possible career paths. It's just something you can work around. What's 'overprivileged' mean?
Goth Bosch Incarnate
Goth Bosch Incarnate 10 ай бұрын
sounds like you were always overpriveledged....aspergers really isn't a disability.
PB in SB
PB in SB 10 ай бұрын
@Di Pf I checked out Elon Musk on Wikipedia. Read the part about his first company Zip2. He was broke. Slept on the couch of a rented office and showered at the YMCA. Worked day and night, 7 days a week.
Di Pf
Di Pf 10 ай бұрын
@PB in SB legend has it he also started out rich, makes things a little easier
Di Pf
Di Pf 10 ай бұрын
@A K thats great if you have no responsibilities involving other people. A large part of me wishes that were more easily possible in america. You can eek by as a single nomadic person that way, but adding a family.. the current structure makes it pretty hard. Would probably trade cellphone and credit card for fishing pole or small farm any day of the week, if theres a community around it. definitely envy a lot of the '3rd world' that isnt too heavily exploited by corps and gov
Thegreatcanadianlumberjack
Thegreatcanadianlumberjack 10 ай бұрын
I have Autism and Epilepsy (Boy what a combo). i'm pretty open about my condition to people after awhile and it kind of changes peoples views and i have even gave advice to people who are raising a child with Autism and it touched them to see a 25 year old Adult living with Autism Working and doing things like anyone else would. But i always tell them it was no easy journey getting there and treat them like anyone else and don't dumb them down because they are disabled. My father abused me and Mom had to step in to protect me a few times and i really do give alot of credit to my Mom for all she has done for me because without her dealing with my School (There was Human rights level of bad things that happened) and taking me to therapy i wouldn't be where i am today and for her to see her son Living on his own, working, being independent, soon to be married and almost a Journeyman Electrician i'm sure she is happy to see what i have become.
N Neichan
N Neichan 3 жыл бұрын
Asperger's here. Found out when I was 50. Boy, did that clear up some things! But while some of these ideas are familiar, I don't have all of these traits at all. Every hospital I worked at, it took me a year to get comfortable, when I knew all the relevant phone numbers, and when I knew where everything was.
N Neichan
N Neichan 11 ай бұрын
@John Kek take one of the online Asperger's tests. Share the info with a therapist who specializes in ASD. Tell them your suspicions. Be honest with them and yourself. I live in the US and I know other countries have different diagnostic rules. I'd been hearing from Docs I worked with in ER for a long time that I was different, and some even used the 'Autistic' word. I never cared enough to get tested. Until my therapist told me she thought I was, it had little impact. I was just always the weirdo who danced in the ER halls.
John Kek
John Kek 11 ай бұрын
@N Neichan I had a therapist ask one question, then say "nope." Even though I know a guy with Asperger's, 25 years younger, whose behavior is just like mine at that age. Not to mention that I have had friends tell me that I behave a certain way which matches the behavior I have read about. I'd like to have someone check it out with me, but I'm leery about spending money on someone who might just poo poo my concerns like that one did.
N Neichan
N Neichan 11 ай бұрын
@John Kek Saw a therapist and she said read this. it was an article about Aspergers and she asked if it was familiar to me. I said it sounded like me, and she agreed.
John Kek
John Kek 11 ай бұрын
What did you do to find out? I suspect I might be, but since I'm older and have learned how to interact with people, I got one person tell me "Oh, you couldn't be" after asking a single question.
John Kek
John Kek 11 ай бұрын
@James Townley It's still on the spectrum.
Valhalla _
Valhalla _ 8 ай бұрын
I'm mildly autistic. I get overwhelmed by sounds a lot, sometimes they're so loud they hurt my ears even if I know they're objectively not loud at all. I'll oftentimes turn my phone's speakers down to below half the max level, and even then it can at times create a buzzing in my ear. Very distracting. I also really struggle with sarcasm, I think that might be because understanding sarcasm takes a lot of abstracting to get, information just hits me and is instantly processed by my brain, there's barely a filter in and out, so I tend to say things or tell people things I don't mean to. That's probably the most upsetting, as I oftentimes tell my mother things and then think "Why did I say that? This isn't something I wanted to share, now I seem like I trust her more than I do" Other times I'll tell or overshare and I can physically see her interest drop, that's honestly the most disheartening. Usually only happens with my mother, although sometimes it even happens at my day job when I talk to a customer. Shit's hard but I'm trying to make the best of it. I have few friends, although I don't necessarily think that's my autism but a lot of past experiences with toxic relationships that have shaped me. The few friends I do have I treasure deeply. Luckily they usually find my quirks lovable, and I think being the butt of a joke about not understanding sarcasm can be funny and almost a compliment if it's said in the right way. I do tend to get a little hurt, but I try to employ logic into my thinking before reacting to things that upset me, because if there's no natural filter it goes through I should use my own before acting impulsively. It definitely helps and I strongly recommend other autists to try the same. I definitely feel like my mother of all people understands me the least when it comes to this. She works with disabled kids and somehow thinks she has a great understanding of autistic people because of that, since many of the children she takes care of are autistic, but this could hardly be further from the truth. She doesn't understand how I think, how I process things, and at times it felt like when we had arguments she very carefully chose her words to have as much of an upsetting impact as possible. That's incredibly frustrating to deal with, but it's not like I can change her behaviour either, so I just sorta deal with it. Doesn't happen often, but the times it did happen definitely stick around. I think ever since I found out I was autistic a lot of things have made a lot more sense, but I don't like how I feel like it defines me. There's comfort in being able to explain my thoughts and behaviour, but it's saddening to know that a lot of what makes me who I am at the end of the day is a piece of paper with a diagnosis on it. I do enjoy the benefits though, I'm not stupid for sure and generally my friends seem to think of me as the smart guy of the group, which can be quite flattering. Working on my personality, doing exercise to feel more confident, learning an instrument, these things lately have really helped me elevate my sense of self-worth in that regard, and self-made improvements make me more than what I am, so I try to think of autism as just a small part of my personality and I think of myself as not even really my personality to begin with. Meditation did that, and that's great. Really helped me calm down and not get so heated over things, so if you're struggling with impulsive things you might want to give that a try for a few months or so. I don't know why I wrote all of this, but I guess I just wanted to chime in for a bit. Hope everyone in this comment section is doing great. You're all wonderful and so much more than a label.
Shaunda Swearingen
Shaunda Swearingen 3 жыл бұрын
My highest functioning child with autism understands complex issues that I can barely understand. My child with severe autism doesn't understand why people should not eat poop. Autism is such a spectrum.
Noelle West
Noelle West 8 ай бұрын
Dr. Peterson is someone who I've always respected. He may likely benefit from having an autism evaluation for himself. And for those here who are autistic (as I am), this story he is telling is not indicative of the entire autism spectrum. He's creating a monolith and a pathology. He is not educated on this, and he also presents numerous characteristics (at least publicly) to suggest that he himself could have an autistic profile.
Michael Mier
Michael Mier 10 ай бұрын
This lecture reminds me of a documentary I saw about 15 years ago on savants & how they perceive the world as it really is, as opposed to the filtered view the rest of us receive. A good example of the difference is a bouncing ball in my view of the world is like watching a motion picture: the ball is bouncing across the floor rather smoothly. In the view of a savant with visual filters removed the ball is not only bouncing across the floor, it is leaving tracers of its movements. With filters in place, our normal brains aren't even aware of a lot of information that's right in front of us.
Could IB Wearing Anymore Clothes?
Could IB Wearing Anymore Clothes? 8 ай бұрын
This is great life advice for ANYONE regardless of one's diagnosis. 👍🏼
Erika
Erika 11 ай бұрын
I'm autistic and have traveled to ten different countries and did my Master's in Japan. I'm originally from Idaho. Most of the issues I've had have been with others being ass holes to be because I communicate differently.
Aryann
Aryann 11 ай бұрын
train your brain to be asshole when you need tobe by doing that thing over and over
imDxnnie
imDxnnie 9 ай бұрын
Peterson never fails to impress and amaze me. That’s one smart man
Cathrine Thomsen
Cathrine Thomsen 8 ай бұрын
I have Aspergers. When I'm at work, a lot of information has to be adapted to me. The boss often has to reformulate from the abstract level to the concrete level. I work in a supermarket where I make food, for example sandwiches, etc. If a customer is not completely specific, then I often do not understand what the customer wants.
Gromp
Gromp 11 ай бұрын
This is why people with autism are generally really good at artistic stuff, music, drawing, etc. When you see all those patterns, you get confused. it's harder to understand all of those concepts when they're thrown at you. but if you don't even see a resemblance (for example, a kitchen with a moved chair is a COMPLETELY different thing) then you're MUCH more focused on the task ahead.) It's kinda like how ADHD can make it REALLY difficult to learn things, but it can actually be GOOD for inventing things or thinking of creative resolutions.
FxG Goku
FxG Goku 6 ай бұрын
I have autism and i can completely agree most have a fixated mindset and it is hard to process things correctly. I will say on the contrary most if not all are geniuses in their own persective right. I mean like look at Einstein they all thought he was on something. And either way I dont think autism disables you from becoming a productive member of society. I graduated high school in IB and now im in community college going for a major in civil engineering. I was not originally like that though. If anyone here is into anime and knows of a movie called "a silent voice" i feel im basically the protagonist except the difference is I wasnt comprehensive of my actions. Anyways, i agree whole heartedly with what he said especially the part about not talking to people. If you are reading this and have a family member that is mentally dysfunctional then dont give up hope☀️☀️👍🏻
David Farrall
David Farrall 4 ай бұрын
I can relate to much of this. I have trouble abstracting the real world and with people. Some friends have suggested this and I feel I navigate badly in the world.
Steven porter
Steven porter 10 ай бұрын
It's kinda interesting, some people with autism can't abstract easily because of hyper focus on every amount of stimuli available seeing tons of details while some focus less and less and less on detail and can be amazing at abstraction although from what I have seen its very few who do the latter. I was diagnosed with a very minor amount of Sensory Processing disorder, so much so that I worked for a while and was no longer read able on the scale. My family for probably 10 to 12 maybe even 14 years of my life had a very tough time with me. Especially, cause I had severe allergies and things, so I couldn't explain the pain I was in cause it was too much to bear worsening the situations I was in cause my family thought I was acting out. But each thing I time I went into a different stages of my life it made me out to be almost unrecognizable. I also had Motory function problems but those are mostly gone. I did basketball for many years probably ages either 8 or 10 to like 15 or 16 consistently. That allowed me to learn how to use the processing of lots of information and how to narrow in on the most important information without me knowing. As well as controlling my body and confidence among many other things. Then I quit and went to get a job that help me focus on communication skills heavily, especially since it was Chick Fil A. Then I stopped when our store closed for a little and decided to stop online school and go to a real school for the first time in my life. Public school in my Junior year. That allowed a lot of information and communication enhancement among many things I haven't even figured out yet. During school I learned how to tap into a creative potential through unknowingly learning abstraction. It's amazing what not holding your child back because of something they can't control can do.
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