Jordan Peterson Warned Us

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[@benjaminhewett3184]

You can’t legislate respect. When you force respect, you create resentment.

[@grantbaker371]

True. Respect is earned or lost by the words and actions of the individual. Not imposed by the state.

[@ShamelessFNGRL]

It's a slippery slope to fascism...

[@kayjay135]

Germany has always had. Aaaaaaaand it's being used to stifle speech and silence dissent. The very first article of our constitution says: "Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority." Then specifically, we have a number of laws in our criminal code that protect one's honor, for example criminalizing insults. And the victim doesn't even have to press charges. You can press charges against a person based on them having insulted someone else. These laws do attempt to protect opinion and also have the condition of the insult being a violation of someone's honor, dignity or value as a person. And specifically the personhood of individuals of an identifiable group are protected and this is actively policed by authorities. However, courts have ruled time and time again that Germans, men, straight people, white people and rich people can't suffer any attack against their personhood in that way and therefore you can for example say "every man supports violence against women" (something a campaign by the state Hesse themselves are propagating), but to share a statistic and then question, whether letting hundreds of Afghans immigrate here unvetted, is to welcome rape-culture, will cost you 6000€ (about the same in USD). Or calling Germans "a race of dogs" is legal, but calling a politician a dick can get you fined. Leftists, islamists, or any other anti-german, anti-west group can say whatever they want without fear of repercussion. The most common totalitarian suppression of free speech is clearly regarding criticism of the open borders policy or of the illegal immigrants. But ever since women organizations are speaking up about the entirely imported epidemic of violent rape, gang-rape and femicide, there has been slight improvement with what you can publicly say. Major news outlets are also finally reporting stuff, that they themselves have called others racist or xenophobic for bringing up.

[@scottmitchell1974]

Canada had no idea who they were unleashing. Thank you Dr. Peterson!!

[@retsnomeikcooc]

We must also pick up our Cross and bear the burden, we also have played more than our fair share in the degeneration of ethics and morals. Jesus is Lord. ❤

[@abramgaller2037]

I beg to differ, the woke leftists are aware of their evil intent.

[@Corneliu-yu2mw]

🙏

[@spindoctor6385]

Bill C16: Canada"s gift to the world.

[@ResoluteRonin]

The absurdity that we have to argue for free speech over compelled speech just shows that we really do live on a planetary insane asylum. How did we get here? Allowing the egoic and insane to rule us?

[@Saunders64]

Mr. Peterson, Stand Your Ground, Keep Standing and Pushing Against this Lunacy.

[@Anonymous_Whisper]

Courts would relate what you just said to the rewanda genocide. No joke..

[@Anonymous_Whisper]

Cost alot

[@ynwadpaggy8157]

Happy birthday Jordan B Peterson one of the greatest intellectual of our generation

[@JasmineDaisy111]

He a Gemini!

[@fredy000]

@@JasmineDaisy111 and?

[@progamer-df3be]

@@JasmineDaisy111so you are saying that thats a bad thing?

[@Mike-om4tv]

​@JasmineDaisy111 means absolutely fucking nothing lol

[@Fightdemon]

Full support to mr Peterson, I'm afraid we're following the same dangerous path here in Spain

[@OutWestRedDirt]

Dr

[@kayjay135]

​@@OutWestRedDirt no, if you want to be pedantic, it's "Prof.". But personally, I'd refrain from making such corrections, because it's kinda obnoxious imo.

[@AFringedGentian]

I cannot help wondering if Dr. Peterson knew how bad it was going to get. I think he knew.

[@annieinwonderland]

His post graduate research was on authoratian governments eg 30s Germany or Maios China he knows that's why he is fighting

[@JustinTarr-j4l]

Wondering? He explicitly said that it is BECAUSE he knows how bad it was going to get that he stood up against it. He said he fears going up against all of this, and that he hates doing it, but that he hates and fears MORE the authoritarianism that will take over if people like him roll over.

[@jond3929]

He SAID he knew how bad it would get. He studied totalitarian states since he was young and knew that speech restrictions were the start of them. People told him "oh, no, no... it won't get that bad. Slippery slope fallacy... ect ect." Now they're trying to take away his educational certification for not conforming to clearly flawed ideology.

[@VoiceOvaGuy]

I worry for people that didn't see this coming for at least the past 5 years, if not 10 or more. Plenty of warning about slippery slopes, well, the slope is heading to the edge of the cliff now.

[@christopherboucher2171]

Things will only get darker from here.

[@SARA-11-1]

Well said Mr. Peterson, and thank you! 👏👏

[@USMCM16A2]

The Canadian government has lost its fucking mind.

[@Anonymous_Whisper]

You have to have something first to lose it

[@ResoluteRonin]

The absurdity that we have to argue for free speech over compelled speech just shows that we really do live on a planetary insane asylum. How did we get here? Allowing the egoic and insane to rule us?

[@Ktranphoto]

@@ResoluteRonin You can thank the Marxists

[@ResoluteRonin]

@@Ktranphoto You can use whatever labels you like, it's all ego! Ego rules the world and will destroy it as well.

[@andretokayuk8100]

They have the same crack dealer as Hunter Biden..

[@redness8667]

Thank you for your speaking out Dr. Petetson. I'm so grateful you exposed yourself to the world.

[@suggesttwo]

17:46 C16 puts the force of law behind gaslighting.

[@kellyevans3254]

Our idiot politicians refused to listen to the well reasoned arguments of an actual expert on the subject. They were all too blinded by the prospect of the opportunity to wear the skin-suit of compassion. I’ve been following your work since 2018 Godspeed Dr Peterson.

[@That0Homeless0Guy]

If you think this was motivated by compassion and not the desire to wield more power then you're very mistaken.

[@arab6745]

@@That0Homeless0Guy I think that's what they were referring to.

[@poetmaggie1]

In my 80 years the words lost to sexual predators is extraordinary. And that is what we are witnessing, sexual predators stealing our language and harming our populations, especially the children and women.

[@retsnomeikcooc]

My heart cries for the world. As a whole, you and I included, we have not only enabled this but have also participated in some form. It is imperative that all of us use what is left of our lives to walk back the damage, the damage that not only we have done but the damage everyone else has caused. The one true Christ is yearning for us to return…

[@vanguardian2864]

And they will face consequences.

[@alexarhipenko6017]

"words lost to sexual predators"? Could you please be more detailed? I am curious.

[@z32luvr]

@@alexarhipenko6017worlds is what was meant

[@jacobstamm]

Of the many leftist friends I have, I’m not aware of any of them being motivated by some kind of predation. Your statement is wild fearmongering. If you want to object to their ideology, do so using legitimate arguments.

[@RiffRock51]

JBP's gifts of intelligence and articulated speech on full display here as he demolishes this absurd bill and the pernicious ideology behind it. There is hope for Canada and other Western countries. Thank you JBP for being the voice of reason.

[@hardas81]

Dr. Peterson ON 🔥

[@pgk60]

The Canadian government is on cerebral vacation.

[@RalphSasso]

Lmmfao. But also in existential Horror....

[@TGCResolve]

Im using that lmaooo

[@briant6164]

Thank you Dr Peterson. Down with Newspeak, down with Big Brother

[@sheridansherr8974]

Yes!! 👍💖

[@NorthernHDrider]

Wow. Your words are amazing. To be infront of these folks to hear you must say they were probably blown away like myself. Great job. With you, Canada can change. To being a country i grew up this. Again, thank you.

[@scribbler60]

Job #1 to fix Canada: Trudeau must go. Full stop. Job #2: repeal all compelled speech provisions. The list is almost endless, but it starts there.

[@Electric_Skunk]

As someone who lives in Americas northeast, I can say this entire political movement has taken things from a personal area of choice, to a forced view the general public may be forced to have too or else. Enough, take your parades home where they belong. Just like your choice of sexual partner or your sexual identities interchangeability to those that think it should be interchangeable. Do what you want, but keep it to yourself.

[@JeffMTX]

They’re not listening… bless you in the fight. They’ll come for us. I’m not complying.

[@mariomolnar3184]

They called him crazy, but now someone has literally been arested based on pronouns misuse.

[@scribbler60]

No record (AFAIK) of anyone in Canada being arrested for using a wrong pronoun. It's a human rights violation, not a criminal act. It's lunacy, of course, compelling speech, but it's not criminal. Yet.

[@Hornet1806]

Who was arrested?

[@scribbler60]

@@Hornet1806 Nobody's been arrested. Mis-pronouning someone, intentionally or otherwise, is not a criminal offence.

[@Hornet1806]

@@scribbler60 see comment by @mariomolnar3184

[@Livetoeat171]

Someone here is lying. This did not happen.

[@suzannetaylor1556]

No on C-16.

[@shanehebert3237]

7 years too late.

[@slimdilly_]

This video looks like it happened in 2007 when it was really just 7 years ago

[@Ibrian8888]

It’s called gaslighting! 🙏🤗🍺cheers

[@Knuck_Knucks]

Will not comply. 🐿

[@eliset6879]

Happy birthday Jorden 🎉

[@NahuelTomasViking]

The way you talk Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is absolutely admirable in the most epic sense on Universe; How you cross your fingers when making a solid point, your direct look in the eye towards others criteria, being so ready under that context... Just wow... U r incredible Dr. 💖

[@DoubleplusUngoodthinkful]

Respect isn't about doing what other people demand that you do. Respect is showing good-will and acknowledgement of humanity to and of another person in the context of the culture of the person showing the respect. I was raised to show respect by talking civilly and addressing people politely, like "sir", "mister", "ma'am", "miss", and "mrs." If I use these salutations, I am showing respect. You do not have the option of calling me disrespectful for showing respect in the way I know and not the way YOU prefer. If you do so, then YOU are the disrespectful one.

[@Whodidwhatthistime]

They knew what they were doing with the seating arrangements

[@USMCM16A2]

Don’t give an inch.

[@stephenc107]

I'll happily break that law, as often as possible.

[@rosetealatte9282]

This was when Jordan Peterson entered my daily consciousness. I admired him then, and I admire him now. I thank God for his well deserved success. He tried to warn us, and he was so so right.

[@jackwood2950]

The man is very articulate

[@NickKing-c1t]

You have safe places to stay with me jordan

[@shoa4566]

For now.

[@michaelcherokee8906]

The faces those audience people are making are WILD.

[@tylersingleton9284]

Hunger Games level of creepy.

[@natquinn7750]

Happy Belated Birthday Dr Peterson.

[@Wolfrich666]

just as he said, it is to gain linguistic control, which also leads to political control, this is authoritarian law establishment to never lose arguments by using the language against disagreeing parties.

[@truthseeker8844]

Glad to hear this with decent audio

[@forrestredd2706]

Can you imagine having to actually argue with the government about a basic understanding of the English language? Clown world.

[@zataritamods7499]

You can tell he's incredibly nervous, and I think despite all of that he was still very clear and maintained a coherent argument. I'm assuming he spent a lot of time practicing what he was going to say. I don't live in Canada; however, I am incredibly happy for Canadians that they have someone who is able maintain their composure in the face of such pressure to have the courage to represent the opposing side in a way that doesn't devolve into chaos. I appreciate the fact that he's able to actually extract the argument from the other side, and instead of attacking back and continuing the cycle of neither side listening to each other. He's able to actually have a conversation about the arguments put forth and articulate the counter arguments most people can only understand emotionally. I think this is what makes him an incredible human despite what you feel about him politically. He's incredibly emotionally literate and understands WHY things make us feel as we do. People love to intentionally misrepresent his arguments, but he's not against anyone; he's against the legal mandates and perversion of science. He's never said someone can't live their life as they see fit. He has said that he won't be compelled to agree with it though. He doesn't seek laws to ban your expression, but he's fighting laws that seek to ban his thoughts and opinions. You're allowed to do what you want, he's allowed to disagree with it. Neither of you should be allowed to ban the other. If he was advocating for laws against your freedom of expression I would fight against him with you. If you stop misrepresenting his ideals you'll see he doesn't care what YOU do, he cares what you are trying to FORCE HIM to do.

[@a.m.j.1]

Totally bonkers that’s my clinical analysis.

[@devolays]

The safest way of interacting with people these days is to avoid any interaction. At least until avoidance becomes punishable too.

[@namelessking8905]

This is how freedom dies. Slowly and quietly.

[@nomadicoasis9260]

Bravo Jordan ! first for being capable of such coherent logical oration and Bravo for saying for the world to hear. some of us who hate politics need representation.

[@clifcody]

Thanks for sharing

[@relishcakes4525]

Remember all the peopel who said "slippery slope" and "this can only end really fucking badly"?

[@jonjacksongrieger255]

Brings me back to my first apartment, playing Halo on Legendary. Soon after, I made my longest short film (Velvet Night), rushed out a 2nd one, and decided to move to LA. Thanks:)

[@claudiabalentin9483]

I agree with Jordan, I’m so glad he is sticking to his beliefs! That is what deserves respect! Not a bunch of made up names the “look at me” generation wants to push on the rest of society! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Anne_Onymous]

My pronouns are Queen and Her Majesty. Failure to comply will be perceived as violence. 👑

[@mattiasek2217]

That people is taking this bill seriously and not instantly throw it out is scary. Canada has turned into a totalitarian crazy place.

[@nurventilatoren]

Canada running around like a headless goose. Of the Canadian variety.

[@rarebird_82]

JBP looked his best here 🔥

[@slickster3]

Many of us have begun to outline what we consider Heterophobic language and companies who express Heterophobia culture. The other shoe will be SLAMMED down.

[@Polix199]

Was this in 2017?

[@johnpeters8724]

I think Jordan Peterson would be agreed with more if either our schools better equipped us to comprehend his lexicon, or he reduced his lexic output to a more manageable size

[@scrumbles]

Well, at least they gave him a platform to speak. Frankly, I'm shocked they did.

[@ashleyeldorado7750]

Can't I just change my preferred pronoun whenever i want to sue someone then?

[@ResoluteRonin]

The absurdity that we have to argue for free speech over compelled speech just shows that we really do live on a planetary insane asylum. How did we get here? Allowing the egoic and insane to rule us?

[@drmadnar]

I wish Mr. Peterson would run for prime minister I would vote for him in a second.

[@alaxt.6215]

Floridian man: I wouldn’t dare challenge Canadian’s insanity.

[@swagmuffin9000]

how did this end?

[@hansolex594]

ça fait froid dans le dos

[@DimebagDarrenLowe]

He represents all my feels

[@martakadziolka7182]

Wow....PKD, the great God of Sci Fi, you predicted this, too. RIP and thank you for everything. Also, thank you Orwell, Huxley, and, last but not least, Joseph Konrad (aka Korzeniowski). I could go on through the ages, but as Marvin would say, why bother?

[@thesaintscorner]

Rebell. You cannot compel speech. Do not allow anyone to force you to say or not say anything.

[@edtazrael]

You get what you vote.

[@kaligath6616]

Identity must be identifiable that is the concept behind identity you can't declare yourself identifiable due to the fact that it is based on how one views something you look at your desk you see a object when pressed down a substance comes out on the other thing in question therefore you think what could possibly have those quality a pen/pencil so you think what comes out you identify it to be a ink based substance therefore you eliminate the possibility of it being a pencil and left with pen. That is what identity is not this idea of demanding someone address you by how they feel because that is narcissism no one should ever entertain narcissism.

[@j.cv.bmerwe6304]

The rode to hel is paived with goed intentions

[@landrypierce9942]

They don’t have good intentions.

[@HypnoPantsOnline]

I shall demand that my pronouns on any given basis is as offensive as possible and put the full force of the law behind me.

[@fieviolet6889]

Some people refer to me as female irl, very few. My mom doesn't and so don't most others. And i know what i look like and that it's an unconscious process to detect me as male and refer to me as such. So i wouldn't use the law to compel them. That would feel a bit bad and antisocial. I mean how van you perceive that as harassment LOL

[@tvwrectoss7724]

Idgaf, i am homeschooling my own child. This world has literally gone fucking insane.

[@HunterLeaderPro]

Did this happen recently?

[@danielsmith5626]

I can go to Canada and legally be called Apache/Attack Helicopter. Once again Canada proves they stand for the best of us.

[@commonsense3026]

Anyone else feeling like we are starting to live the movie Idiocracy?

[@Limp-Legend]

Jordan you speak such large words, but I always understand what your point is. I can appreciate your sentiment. Keep fighting to keep speech free. I’m supportive of the transgender community, but not when it sets precedence for mistakes to be put in the same category or prosecuted similarly as malicious behavior. If there can’t be a separation of the two legally, then there cannot be any laws passed regarding the matter. Gay rights activists of the past have taken any word you can think of, true hatred. What happened to the old saying of “sticks and stones…”? I think that the hatred that might be present in the modern world toward transgender people might be more toward the radical change in the structure of young society combined with maybe the status of being a transgender person. The hatred might come from an uncomfortability with change, from the change of one’s community and everyday life; from the television shows we watch, to the way we greet each other. Change is scary, and it causes people to act differently when they are uncomfortable. However, there should not be a law or piece of legislation that can control someone else and their right to say what they like, I believe that there needs to be a stronger sense of self-love or self-respect within people that are trying to inact a possible “scapegoat law” (E.g., “I feel attacked, go to jail”). With all due respect please thicken your skin and mature your mindset to not give in to the aggressors you face. I have faced adversity my entire life and I’m a better person for learning how to manage its affect on my life and my character. With all of that being said, I hope that you have a great day. Thanks for this video, it was definitely an eye opening session.

[@Themheals]

What canada needs is an app that monitors canadians cell phones to make sure that canadians are following all laws pertaining to DEI and the LGBTQIIA+ community. The government and police can listen in on all conversations and be sure there are no problems.

[@ricardfrantz]

legendary day

[@JustinMKral]

Happy birthday

[@this_time_imperfect]

This is the problem when you’re the smartest person in the room, none of the idiots can understand you.

[@WlmaAlexender-zl6nx]

"Compelled speech"? It's over.

[@mariebarbeau1555]

Wish everyone would tune into their lives like these two witnesses do.

[@jykl608]

when ppl have nothing to do....

[@NecroChungus]

Use a canadian VPN server, portray yourself as a canada citizen, And make very public att@cks on those who support these ideas with the most crueI form of these "offenses" . Waste their time and resources, and harass them for thinking it was a passable idea.

[@NecroChungus]

Sidenote: KZbin REALLY REALLY wanted to block this message from being posted, so let's just enjoy their unending censorship failures

[@retrospectre2658]

You can always just use their proper name... OR WHAT? Thats the point. If you say you're name's Peter and I call you "Slick", "Homie", "Pete" or anything else in that moment, I'm now in legal trouble. Define one other point in history where that has been the case. Also, No joke: People cannot pronounce my name. Literally. I have to teach them my name and what about accents? Is every single person I talk to going to be fined or jailed because they can't say my name?

[@retrospectre2658]

Also: These arent in common parliance. OK, says fucking who? Your law doesn't define if its common or not. I could literally make up my pronouns just to trap you and you wouldn't be able to talk to me. THATS the point.

[@DIPLOMATCENTER]

Peterson...easy on these guys🤣🤣

[@Tinlar75]

Not that I'm in favor of C16, but it passed 7 years ago and the world didn't end.

[@kellywilson137]

Canada should keep going further to demonstrate to the rest of the world. But you wouldn't see it, it'll be similar to China where the State controls News in and out. They'll throw a Gag order on any anti govt movements like China does.

[@average.yt.commenter609]

Canada is a mess. I wouldn't call that a positive outcome.

[@kedobarukun9286]

Legal compoltion is fearful compoltion. Compelled by law indicates action based on the fear of incarceration. Compelled speech is itself a human rights violation. Compelled respect, which they are trying to use as an excuse to create the precident to restrict speech, is religious.

[@rudyponzio5871]

Relationships are portrayed shallow in our arts far too much... While talking about relationships and love and affection. I was asked about the quality of them. I offered this. A partner is considered to be something you have. I pointed out the basic relationship quality difference between pet dogs and pet cats. Besides the litter box? Dogs are good but too needy. Cats don't over do it. There sweet when they are, and they are independent all the way around. But love to stay in your house if you let them. They get into affection when it's time for them. Dogs have no stop in them. They want to be the center of attention. Cats never loose their center of attention. If you meet pets at their way and vibration of living then life works by mutual agreement. Meeting your partner at their way and vibration of living should be know up front for the forever no matter commitment. If you could have your pet live forever you would. Because it's a working relationship. Your partner should be free of obligation to satisfy your keeping them like your pets get a free pass because the love commitment isn't lessened by what they do in your domain of experience. It's an unconditional love. If you loose your unconditional love for your partner you don't know what unconditional love is and are not willing to create it for yourself and blame the animated being you chose in front of you for it. You got tired of the false coating you put on it in the first place. A number one relationship is a place to give love out not milk it out from .

[@typolive8663]

Eloquently explained and extremely disconcerting.

[@DavidWilliams-yh6pq]

Probably proper setting to evoke cultural appropriation accusations. are they suffering from MPD, have they separated from conjoined twins, are they pregnant, what else is there that i may be missing, honest responses preferred?

[@marshallcierovola376]

Wow and I thought the US was the worst place for this kind of BS. But apparently, it's not just us.

[@heikodatchi3715]

Why are the views so low for this video....a Scooby doo mystery

[@DoubleplusUngoodthinkful]

Pronouns are not subjective. They are OBjective. I don't know any "gender pronouns", nor do I plan to learn any. If you're the kind of person who cares about whether or not people use you CHOSEN "pronoun", you are not the type of person whose opinion I care about nor the type of person I choose to talk to in the first place. If you force me to interact with you, you WILL accept the respectful (in the context of MY upbringing and not YOUR twisting of the culture) addresses I use for you. I, as everyone in the world did until the past single-digits of years, have always operated on sex pronouns. They rely on objective sexual characteristics which are observable more than 99% of the time and do not require any input, clarification, or choice by the object of the pronoun. They have served me well for half a century and I do not plan on changing anytime in the future. If the powers that be choose to make this a criminal matter, then I will be a criminal.

[@Axxidous]

I can imagine an anime of an egocentric male character constantly, comedically, telling the others to call him her, which they continuously don’t because they don’t see him as a her and it’s just some dude. And they being played for laughs. But then also be considered super offensive in modern times and the humor being a “product of its time”. To go further, however, now imagine that gag playing out then cut to them being in court and having this big serious congress meeting over it. It would be hilarious how baffling stupid it is to take it that far and that seriously over such a topic. Then you take a step back into real life and see that we are actually doing that only we are so in the atmosphere of it being a real thing that even those who acknowledge this is crazy haven’t REALLY acknowledged how holy shit ridiculous this all is. And I’m not saying that even as anti-trans or anything. I just think the way we are going about such an issue is kind of silly. You would expect these kind of meetings to be about some thing you know… Really serious. Like something that affects your immediate health or safety. Oh, and the reason why I could picture that scenario at the beginning in an anime, is because I already saw an anime called Angel Beats that had a character that told everyone to call him God, which they never did. It was played for laughs.

[@JaguarPanda]

Smart people will chose to ignore the crazies, act like they're not even there. They can do nothing against you if you don't talk to them, as a bonus, it enrages them lol

[@yodaweed2240]

I will not comply is the right thing to say here.

[@hed2410]

The whole pronoun wave is us subsiding here in usa as far as i can see, in most camps. But then, we dont have a government body pompously meeting to pass legislation to force the use.

[@rudyponzio5871]

What's being pointed too here has a progenitor present in our every fashion of rudimentary living... I was weened from a time when everything was performed long hand. With arms legs and hands. Every job was filled with doing ness of physical movements. Now so many humans never taste a physical existence of such basic movements to augment existence for other humans. And the essence of the human timber of interactions had been replaced in too many placed by dry sterile themes of inner change replacing the human quality and its Byproduct nutritions. So we bicker ever so deeply looking for some bounce offs. But they can only be fought for over a few narrow pathways of expression. This develops insidiously over a short amount of time. Look at what we see from the suppose highest outlets of educational beings! They are starving for the human quality that we have evacuated from our daily lives That's what I know.

[@fourflusher6043]

And Conservatives voted this in.

[@britanikothegreat8513]

Hebrew 7:10-12. Hebrew 5:10?!. Santiago 4:12?!. Do not sin always is in Divine Righteousness because when a person sins he is no longer in Righteousness. Proverb 1:23. Hebreo 4:12. Proverb 16:9-12. Malachi 1:11. 2Cronica 7:14.

[@keithstimpyys3497]

In a hundred years people are gonna sound like martians

[@a-terrible-fate532]

I sure hope canadians dont except this kind of dictator sh!t !