2017 Personality 12: Heidegger, Binswanger, Boss (Phenomenology)

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Jordan B Peterson

Jordan B Peterson

7 жыл бұрын

In this lecture, 12th in the 2017 series, I discuss the Heidegger's phenomenological philosophy of Being, interpreted through the eyes of the psychotherapists Ludwig Binswanger and Medard Boss. The phenomenologists were attempting to to reduce the painful separation between object and subject that has as one of its consequence the elimination of meaning from existence.
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@daniellucas2968
@daniellucas2968 2 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this again for the first time in a couple years. I've decided I'll have to come back to these lectures periodically, probably for the rest of my life. There's so much I can understand in this lecture now that I completely missed the first time. Edit: Five minutes after I wrote this comment, Peterson says, "Every time you look at it, you're different." lol, exactly.
@siddhantparikh3260
@siddhantparikh3260 Жыл бұрын
Dude. Same here. I went through Maps of Meaning for the second time, and after that, here I am, going through this series, too, once again. And I intend on going through these series again and again as I build up my knowledge of Humanities across the next few decades.
@dimitriosfromgreece4227
@dimitriosfromgreece4227 10 ай бұрын
Yes yes 100% ❤️
@resurrectingexcellence
@resurrectingexcellence 6 ай бұрын
​@@siddhantparikh3260I've lost count how many times I've watched maps of meaning from start to finish at this point, maybe 5+ times? 😂
@t1mman
@t1mman 3 жыл бұрын
"The art is beyond what is articulable, otherwise it's just propaganda" Mind blown once again! Thank you Dr. Peterson!
@VincentVSD
@VincentVSD 7 жыл бұрын
even if you've remove the applause from the videos I keep aplauding in front of my screen
@HelloThere.....
@HelloThere..... 3 жыл бұрын
You mean you do it at the ends of the videos? Or throughout them?
@nephante8157
@nephante8157 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just saying Amen every 5-10 minutes XD (Amen is derived from the Hebrew āmēn, which means “certainty,” “truth,” and “verily.)
@benparks1182
@benparks1182 Жыл бұрын
Crap, I'm gonna have to start clapping in public now when the video ends! 😅
@pedroaguirre258
@pedroaguirre258 6 жыл бұрын
8:32 that sound effect! this man is the complete combo.
@TheSpiritBolt
@TheSpiritBolt 6 жыл бұрын
Shalom&FuckOff! Fucking wizard.
@nephante8157
@nephante8157 3 жыл бұрын
Or... maybe he have kids which he have to entertain sometime somewhat ;)
@harkyo
@harkyo 3 жыл бұрын
@@nephante8157 he has raised a son and daughter to adulthood and he is a grandfather, now.
@ichiniize
@ichiniize 7 жыл бұрын
free classes from 1 of the best lecturer in western hemisphere, what more could anyone asked for ❔ this is gold ❗ ☑ 🎯 🔘
@VladimirPutin-cd4cl
@VladimirPutin-cd4cl 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think his a good lecturer. He gets seriously on my nerves -- this performance, I mean. I would much prefer if he just read the main points from a paper in a neutral tone and leave off all that irritating "passion". It would take much less time and much less emotions. I can't help thinking that people like you are not for the content but the performance and the charisma.
@BenWeeks-ca
@BenWeeks-ca 7 жыл бұрын
Fortunately you can extract Close Captions and have a dreary robot voice read Peterson's words back to you if you wish. That you are irritated with human emotional tonality, performance, charisma perhaps suggests more about you than it does about him. As for your worry about dealing with the troubles of capitalism, most of us in the west deal with those every day and so are familiar. You may like to consider Peterson's book list which recommends "Road to Wigan Pier" by George Orwell. It looks at how brutal the lives of poor coal miners in the North of England were. So very much a criticism of elements of capitalism. Orwell was placed under surveillance as a result of his research because he was viewed as a leftist radical by authorities. The book also criticizes the left which often hates the rich more than it loves the poor.
@BenWeeks-ca
@BenWeeks-ca 7 жыл бұрын
Jesper Jansen: The form and content are both flawed with your statement. Probably you're joking somehow and I don't get it.
@VladimirPutin-cd4cl
@VladimirPutin-cd4cl 7 жыл бұрын
But that made perfect sense, even though I am afraid his humanity somewhat shines through also in his written texts. As for the accusation of me being a heretic amongst fans, cult-followers and true-believers -not to mention all the libertarian-type fruitcakes around here (though here kufar should be the preferred term)- it's correct; and as for the offensive tone (form), who cares (and it was a joke)?
@ichiniize
@ichiniize 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody's Perfect guess every1 has their own 'opinion' 😁 ❕if it's 🆗 with you, may u share/tell me your fav lecturer ❔
@nordion84
@nordion84 7 жыл бұрын
"[Artists] are going out into the unknown and representing it imaginably. So what does that painting mean? Well, if the artists knew that he'd just write it down. The art is beyond what is articulable; otherwise it's just propaganda." Based Prof giving much respect for the artists who take chances peering over the edge.
@Aperdat
@Aperdat 7 жыл бұрын
R.D. Laing..... "All art is political". Think possibly so?
@R34n1mated
@R34n1mated 6 жыл бұрын
Would depend on what Laing exactly meant by, "political."
@prybarknives
@prybarknives 5 жыл бұрын
No, only bad art.
@justinbooth9198
@justinbooth9198 4 жыл бұрын
Finally after hundreds of hours I can say there is a single statement of JP's that I can 100% say within my realm of specialty that he is indeed wrong with his presupposition of the artistic state and the attempt to quantify the unknown via image/icon/visual representation or else they would write it down (quantify). This is a strikingly one sided perception of this act of representation that appears by Jordans own argument to negate an alternate vantage point. The presupposition is wrong, and I believe this overarching structure he is speaking of that binds the known and the unknown can be quantified within the musical realm. ( that is the infinitely shorter version of what I would debate this statement on )
@MrTTnTT
@MrTTnTT 4 жыл бұрын
​@@justinbooth9198 As I understand you, you're arguing that the naturally procedural art of music (which until recently was inevitably performed, i.e. procedural, as well as deeply associated with ritual procedures) is the link more so than imagistic representation. I've made the same case, but I don't think Peterson would disagree. Going by the case he built in Maps of Meaning, he suggests that the the developmental pathway of ideas - presumably including our relationships to the unknown - start at the procedural level, then things are captured in the form of an episode, which can be retold, depicted and associated with other things, thereby modifying future procedures. The statement cited by the OP is in line with this. "Imaginably" isn't the same as imagistically. However, looking closer at what you write, you suggest the relationship can be quantified in music. Now, I understand quantifiable to mean something like "measure in terms of numbers". While math shines through in music in a myriad of ways, and music is (surprisingly often if there's no relationship) described as a matter of balancing known and unknown, I don't see how this can conquer the barrier that is how relating to the unknown is an individual affair that the artist - assuming the general theory is right - tries to solve for him/herself, in their own context. It seems to me that any way of quantifying it on the musical level is an exercise in the arbitrary, at least for now, but I'm curious to hear what you have in mind. If we imagine it in a two-layer-model (where the first layer is the format and the second is the kind of memory it builds on, where we should remember that associations are episodic in nature), Philosophy might be linguistic-linguistic, story might be linguistic-episodic, image might be episodic-episodic, direct imitation might be procedural-episodic, and music (and dance, which are actually naturally interlocked from what I've found, which is why it's difficult *not* to synchronize one's movement with the periods of music) would be something like ( traditionally communal, serving at least two functions which I can delve into if you wish) procedural-procedural. If this is at all appropriate, it would be very difficult to identify any concrete ideas in music. Image, on the other hand, is relatively close to the linguistic. But again, I'd love to hear what you have in mind.
@Ibroadcastmyself17
@Ibroadcastmyself17 6 жыл бұрын
"I think their ideas are extremely interesting, and so, im gonna talk about them"
@bobwilkinsonguitar6142
@bobwilkinsonguitar6142 5 жыл бұрын
This man has cultivated an insanely apt taste for the interesting
@jasonhamm3370
@jasonhamm3370 4 жыл бұрын
Aka just read philosophy
@fadhilfirjatullah8464
@fadhilfirjatullah8464 3 жыл бұрын
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@VizionaryInSight
@VizionaryInSight 3 жыл бұрын
-my family: *”... so anyways”*
@brendon3605
@brendon3605 2 жыл бұрын
Good ole uncle peterson
@siddhantparikh3260
@siddhantparikh3260 3 жыл бұрын
"Clean up your room. That's a good place to start...stop." - This felt like a bitter and effective medicine, since I'm watching it online with a slightly disordered room. Nicely played, Dr. Peterson.
@zayed4675
@zayed4675 Жыл бұрын
Nice freudian slip there ay. Matches perfectly.
@jaybird6034
@jaybird6034 7 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson explaining his ayahusca trip to Graham Hancock on the Joe Rogan Podcast would be the absolute ultimate!!!!
@ryderjolly7463
@ryderjolly7463 3 жыл бұрын
Yessssss!!! 🙌🙌
@gabzseveri6780
@gabzseveri6780 3 жыл бұрын
This is something I didn't even know I needed.
@Blaze92NL
@Blaze92NL 3 жыл бұрын
Did he do ayahuasca?
@kjellkuipers5810
@kjellkuipers5810 5 жыл бұрын
When I was depressed I had the same sort of dream over and over again. It was very confrontational and I hated it. Now I understand why I had that dream. Peterson's explanation of his dream really took me to town man. I will try to analyse it and learn from it. This man is a gift.
@nathanaelmorales760
@nathanaelmorales760 2 жыл бұрын
WhT was the dream? If you don’t mind me Askinh
@cindyj5522
@cindyj5522 10 ай бұрын
His dream was about control and obliteration. He was a man experiencing some kind of personal disaster when he described this dream. He is not a gift...he is a monster who uses his intellect to twist reality. He is dark and insane and spreading his own damaged psyche as far and wide as he can.
@uma9948
@uma9948 2 ай бұрын
What does it means
@uma9948
@uma9948 2 ай бұрын
I have also been through the same situation.....
@user-ux5mo2ng2c
@user-ux5mo2ng2c 3 жыл бұрын
33:13 jp about curiosity "it's the thing that you could be in the future calling you forward" goosebumps!
@anotherlover6954
@anotherlover6954 6 жыл бұрын
This video blew my mind several times over. I'm going to have to make a study of these lectures.
@StyleKrong
@StyleKrong 5 жыл бұрын
17:24 DM: "You enter a dark room." PC: "Can I see anything?" DM: "What's your passive perception?" PC: "There is no passive perception. JP says I gotta roll for it." DM: "Alright, roll." *20* PC: "What do I see?" DM: "You become aware that this world is nothing more than an intense mentally projected fantasy shared between several conscious beings within a common interval in time, and that within the projected fantasy alone, an infinite number of possibilities exist, multiplied by the infinite frames of reference present from each conscious being witnessing the session. Your character's intelligence score is too low to refocus on a single frame of reference, suffers a horrific internal mental trauma, and their head explodes. Roll a new character."
@CellGames2006
@CellGames2006 4 жыл бұрын
:O
@Rith9789
@Rith9789 4 жыл бұрын
That's amazing
@chickenshieee
@chickenshieee 4 жыл бұрын
Well said... wow
@dLzzzgaming
@dLzzzgaming 4 жыл бұрын
This is freaking gold
@neutra__l8525
@neutra__l8525 4 жыл бұрын
Dam.. When I have to sit and think about a comment for half an hour I know Im in the right comments section.
@Fawnshell
@Fawnshell 10 ай бұрын
I’ve watched these lectures over and over and over again, the last 20 or so minutes is amazing
@TesterBoy
@TesterBoy 2 жыл бұрын
Peterson’s lectures are always densely packed with ideas. He is a talking novel. I can imagine his lecture preparation is an hours-long mental workout.
@150tdaytoday7
@150tdaytoday7 3 жыл бұрын
From the phenomenological perspective you pursue those things that shine forth To study human beings as objects you need to take into account You still have to take into account they ensconce themselves within a value system and also People live within an ethic and the ethic structures and their perceptions people live within a self-defined perceptual world. To make a representation of a thing accurate It would have to be as detailed as the thing itself. [3:30]You're surrounded by an infinite number of potential things to apprehend But that isn't the world you live in The world you live in is a very very constrained subset of those things And part of the question is then 1. What's the nature of that constrained subset? That's what you inhabit, that's what makes up your experience? 2. How is it related to the infinitely complex objects that are around you? You're in this perceptual frame and It Contains all of the things you experience subjectively The emotions and the qualia[quality of the experience of something] it's the quality of pain which doesn't seem reducible to a set of objective facts Or the quality of color, or the quality of beauty, or the quality of love, or the quality of sorrow.These things sort of manifest themself as raw facts of existence and also are constituent elements of your field of experience. [5:26]Dasein[to be there] or Phenomenological Frame Its conceptualized as being in a place and with you at the center of Your realm of experience. Implicit Assumptions Of Phemenologist All the experience of the past events are implicit in the present event i.e past has shaped it [eg:- All of the times you've fought with your mother are implicit in this fight] [To investigate the fight/event completely You'd have to get to the bottom of that entire train of interactions you've had with your mother/person/about that kinds of experiences] and also the future is folded up in what you're experiencing right now and it unfolds as you interact with it. It's conditional to some degree on you and your past is because it's your past and you that are determining the actions that you undertake right now that determine how the future is going to unfold around you[Now completely obviously because you don't have complete control over how things unfold]. ###[7:26] You don't see any material objects/events,you see the objects as portals through which you are going through different worlds/realities[you are going to have a different futures or different realities are going to happen because of the object/event being there/happening or not being there] and the object/events also contains the past because the attainment or not attainment of an object/event is going to determine how you in the present are going to remember/structure your past [A new past popes into being due to an event happening or not]. #####Body Intelligence - Your body is more likely to respond to what the thing actually is, than how it is that you see it. ####The object that you're interacting with only reveals what it is as a consequence of the way that you interact with it. For Example:- If you take a complex object like another person,a huge part of that is going to depend on exactly how I interact with you{the person} you could be a raging beast if I interacted with you one way and you could be a perfect, you know, cooperative entity that was very pleasant if I interacted with you another way. ####If you're interacting with something that's really Truly multi-faceted{A Person.Computer}.The problem while trying to determine what it is. But the problem is that what it is manifests itself only in accordance with how you behave towards it. For Example:- Subatomic particles. Hypothetically, the most objective thing there is Well it turns out that whether they're a wave or a particle depends on the way you set up the experiment. ###To define and object scientifically you actually don't define the object. What you say is here is a multi-dimensional entity if you approach it in this manner,the procedure, The methods. If you approach it in that manner, it will manifest that set of traits i.e you adopt a frame of reference with regards to it and not others. the object itself is not something that is easily reducible to a single set of properties. For An Object/To a situation/ While reading a book or while seeing an painting every time you look at them you're different Every time you look at them you're different because You're bringing something entirely different to the situation and the image/object/experience/situation is complicated enough to allow it to reflect something new to you depending on the stance you take in relationship to it. ### [13:21]How you narrow down the objective world/reality into your subjectivity [narrow down your world from lets an infinite set of possibilities] 1.By the way you interact with the objective world. 2.As your senses aren't acute enough to detect everything and it stops you from being absolutely overwhelmed. 3. In the space that you inhabit You have implicit in the perception a sense of where you are and what you are doing right now as well is what you're aiming at [15:56] How Your Perception reveal the world- You have an aim in mind and the aim is what you're pointing your eyes at, The aim is what's structuring your perceptions, The aim is what's revealing that part of the world that is being revealed to you to see. ###The Aim also structures your emotions. It also primes your behaviors. It's not a drive, it's not a goal it's not a motivation, it's more than that. It's all of that at once. Your entire act of perception is determined by your entire value structure. [19:34]Perception- ### What we perceive are "first and foremost" not impressions of taste, tone, smell or touch Not even in things or objects, but meanings. You are a multi-level object and you are interacting with the world at different levels and part of you is reflex and what you are doing is thinking and feeling about objects and bunch of other fast and slow things all at once. Your conscious mind is very slow to respond to fast objects/impulse or stimuli at an instant and thus first reacts and only then only perceives the information. You see in the world are meanings So you see the meaning detection first and the object recognition second. There is no object perception but only pattern perception. So the meaning is what's being perceived first and foremost and you have to perceive meanings first because you actually want to stay alive. So the world is full of these objects that have meanings to you that are relevant to your survival and what you're perceiving first is the relevance of the pattern to your survival. [23:45] The response to the object is implicit to the perception.[response to the object is part of the perception of the object It's what gives the object meaning]. There's no perceiving entity without a structure But by the same token the thing that's being perceived Also shines forth with its own potential manifestation. [28:00]There's no perceiving entity without a structure But by the same token the thing that's being perceived Also shines forth with its own potential manifestation. [31:19] When you're curious about something, why are you curious about that? Is it calling to you? Or is it something that you're interpreting?It's both. Curiosity is like the manifestation of yourself to the ego. It's the thing that you could be in the future calling you forward. [34:49]You explore something new, What do you generate from the exploration? You. Because as you explore it you learn things. That changes you. So you generate psyche out of the exploration. That's spirit. And you also generate the world out of it But the thing to begin with is psyche and world at the same time. The potential that there is inside objects[eg:-Cell phone, birth control pill] When You make a object, you think you know what it is, you have no idea what it is And it's going to do some of the things you think it will do And it's going to do a bunch of things you have no idea about And that's because Things are more complex than they look They're multi-dimensional and they have an intrinsic complexity That tends to unfold across time And it's only somewhat predictable and so you have things under your control and in your grasp to some limited degree But at any point chaos can collapse/switch into order Or order can collapse into chaos/switch. [42:19]What do you have in front of you? A world of objects No, You have a world of potential in front of you And you can interact with any aspect of that potential And while you're doing so, you realize it You pull something into being that wouldn't have been there before And what you see in front of you is a wall of potential, The potential is not infinite because you're constrained But, it's still For all intents and purposes it will do you just fine it's more potential than you could ever need. [44:07]Dreams- Dreams are at the forefront of thinking They get there before you The creative imagination is at the forefront of thinking If you think that you're moving out into the unknown To gather new information What gets there first is the imagination.The dream and the imagination can bring you places that you don't even know that you can go. ###Part of the Dasein [45:38]The sense of responsibility that you have to address those problems It's part and parcel of the way that human beings manifest themselves in the world.So part of your pathology would be failure to bear the responsibility for your being And a sense that you have a debt to your existence.
@LeBakalite
@LeBakalite 5 жыл бұрын
Man, this one lecture was prticularly brilliant all the way through to the end.
@kathleenh3104
@kathleenh3104 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading these lectures. You have legitimately changed my life.
@billOground
@billOground 7 жыл бұрын
can someone please make a compilation video of that girl coming in late every bloody time?
@Jacob-sb3su
@Jacob-sb3su 6 жыл бұрын
sean whalen when does she usually come in?
@creedddzz
@creedddzz 6 жыл бұрын
I need this, if someone doesn't do it, I will. LOL
@rajab2852
@rajab2852 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Maiyo, I'm counting on you!
@makermarx8862
@makermarx8862 6 жыл бұрын
amazing how a thought comes into your mind, but you check the comments first because you know someone else will be slightly annoyed by "that girls" regular tardiness.
@meauxx
@meauxx 6 жыл бұрын
She's late because she's cleaning her room all the time.
@nicolashuffman4312
@nicolashuffman4312 3 жыл бұрын
Coming from a background in science and engineering, the world of abstract thought always seemed like one of hand waving and supposition, hypothesizing without ever testing; a kingdom of the inept. I'm glad to find myself proven wrong on this. These ideas have merit, even if they are difficult to grasp from my perspective. And many of them are testable!
@badeffinkittie
@badeffinkittie 6 жыл бұрын
These lectures have changed my life. Thank you.
@saltpeter1396
@saltpeter1396 7 жыл бұрын
What a trip! I shall take this drug again!
@lukaskaufmann-laduc2732
@lukaskaufmann-laduc2732 5 жыл бұрын
I am watching this after a joint and agree. The way that he interprets Heidegger, and the archetypes he is able to put forward, because of this, is v fascinating.
@pauljames9806
@pauljames9806 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the free lecture.
@zofiamazur8125
@zofiamazur8125 7 жыл бұрын
Very meaningful lecture. Thank you Professor Jordan B. Peterson.
@adamwhite1920
@adamwhite1920 5 жыл бұрын
The quote related to "Dasein” looks like two German words contracted into one: da (there) + sein (be) - to be there, which seems to fit the description perfectly. It's pronounced "dar-zine" where zine rhymes with wine.
@andreaskahn1731
@andreaskahn1731 3 жыл бұрын
German here. Your translation is literally right. Apart from Heidegger's definition Dasein is simply our word for being. The pronounciation is "dazine", no R in there. German pronounciation is pretty straight forward, unlike French or English :D
@siyaindagulag.
@siyaindagulag. 3 жыл бұрын
A pair of etymologists in the comments section of this particular video. Wunderbar!! There is hope for us yet.
@kristineheier796
@kristineheier796 Жыл бұрын
@@andreaskahn1731 I think he meant it's pronounced "dar-zine" if you were to say it in the british/english pronunciation. A isn't the same sound in English as in German, where it's pronounced like ah/ar, so I believe if you're English and want to pronounce it in the proper German way, you need to imagine there being an extra "r" at the end to get the pronounciation right :)
@jeffbriggs1987
@jeffbriggs1987 7 жыл бұрын
why are you up at 3am on a school night?
@pinkberry50
@pinkberry50 7 жыл бұрын
Family Day nigga.
@jeffbriggs1987
@jeffbriggs1987 7 жыл бұрын
DrVelvetProductions Family day was Monday, it's Tuesday morning now.
@malpais776
@malpais776 7 жыл бұрын
Nothin! We were just measuring somethin.
@PatrickBateman1987
@PatrickBateman1987 7 жыл бұрын
You can schedule upload on youtube. Just because it got uploaded at 3am, it doesn't mean that's the time he uploaded it.
@__rai
@__rai 7 жыл бұрын
Just learning n stuff.
@MelFinehout
@MelFinehout 3 жыл бұрын
Has it ever occurred that with all he says, he's only pointing to iceberg tips? He could probably lecture longer than this on each iceberg. Amazing. That does it, ordering Maps of Meaning.
@GH3K3
@GH3K3 6 жыл бұрын
I think you needed an extra hour for this one, Dr. Peterson. Too complex for 45 minutes, but a noble effort.
@SpankoSaurusRex
@SpankoSaurusRex 7 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Youre becoming my new favourite intellectual rockstar, but youre also incredibly strong in discussing Heidegger.
@nageboorte
@nageboorte 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the free education Dr. Peterson!
@LVXMagick
@LVXMagick 5 жыл бұрын
I get so excited when oocult and alchemical topics are brought into these talks. It's funny how in one lecture he said the mystical writings of Jung are the most difficult to comprehend. For me it's the opposite. I understand his mystical writings far easier than the more clinical terminology and ideas in his earlier writings. I hope he will get heavier into Occult ideas. 😍
@smolbean5204
@smolbean5204 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr I think that our brains are just wired for this nature of thinking. Perhaps we all have a similar level of trait openness.
@user-qc7mx6oj2r
@user-qc7mx6oj2r 5 ай бұрын
So much of occult philosophy and psychology overlap because both Freud and Jung the great forefathers of modern day psychology were jews that studied kabbalah and brought a lot of those teachings into the groundwork of early psychology
@2biicoachingformndkarlotto317
@2biicoachingformndkarlotto317 5 жыл бұрын
The future unfolds as you interact with it :)
@truefact844
@truefact844 3 жыл бұрын
the only person not worshiping Jordan, is that because you have more knowledge or the right knowledge?
@marc6611
@marc6611 3 жыл бұрын
You altered my perspective of the world. I thank you every time I listen to the information you present. Thank you for your wealth of knowledge and presentation of it, please continue to provide content as honestly, it makes life better for me.
@mathissss2023
@mathissss2023 8 ай бұрын
i miss you professor, been going outside and working for a while. i am back to continue your lecture again. feels like home
@lt4965
@lt4965 7 жыл бұрын
When did you make a patreon? Clicked on it and holy fuck so much support. The internet is amazing.
@toddfundgren4299
@toddfundgren4299 7 жыл бұрын
Oh? And what are your contributions, Tarik?
@picarochi
@picarochi 7 жыл бұрын
People are donating money to him with the understanding that he will be putting the funds to use in producing educational materials. That agreement is between him and his contributors,, and it is none of your business whether he earns 500 dollars or 500,000 in the process.
@sharp7j
@sharp7j 7 жыл бұрын
So he should make less money than... Miley Cirus and all the other useless celebrities?
@b.w.8104
@b.w.8104 7 жыл бұрын
Sharp oh that would be awesome! Jordan Peterson might just be the beginning... could you imagine celebrity status for intellectuals matching that of "entertainers"...
@nathansoundz883
@nathansoundz883 7 жыл бұрын
He gets 17 grand a month for his youtube vids?
@godsonjohnson5549
@godsonjohnson5549 3 жыл бұрын
I thank you Dr. Peterson for your outpouring in this series of lectures. The Personality series of lectures have truly helped me to reflect, reaffirm and gain a more solid perspective on life and my surrounding circumstances dealing with other human beings. I live on a island that has varied culture and the community where I operate business is socially challenged. I am trying to make a meaningful impact here and your teachings have provided me with personal healing and much needed psychological tools to work with. This year, with your teachings, I hope to go about more calmly with my task. Thank you and the LORD my God forever bless and comfort you & Yours..
@OlliePage
@OlliePage 7 жыл бұрын
It must really suck to the professor in the class that these guys go to next. How can you top JBP?
@beholder9
@beholder9 7 жыл бұрын
You're up late Dr. Peterson.
@SKreatywny
@SKreatywny 5 жыл бұрын
'Failure to shoulder existential burden results in neurotic guilt and fear.' I've been thinking about how a person can cope in the face of large amounts of their squandered potential. This, at the very least, explains a little about why this intense guilt appears in the first place.
@nephante8157
@nephante8157 3 жыл бұрын
It's overwhelming for sure, it's like giant weight on your shoulders and buzzing in your head. It's like you've been knocked down, died (or at least some part of you). It's lifted a little bit when something good happens in your life, but still you can't forget it - so you're working / thinking how to lower it.
@TansGauntlett
@TansGauntlett 3 жыл бұрын
UTTERLY AND FANTASTICALLY FASCINATING TO REWATCH PETERSON LECTURES AGAIN AND AGAIN
@mugeesulkaisar3560
@mugeesulkaisar3560 2 жыл бұрын
What a stunning lecture! Absolutely amazing
@limitless1692
@limitless1692 7 жыл бұрын
i learn so much from this man i can't belive that i was so stupid and ignorant in my litle drama in my litle past thank you !
@animallover4955
@animallover4955 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@jeremyesser797
@jeremyesser797 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. He remarks about past, future, etc have really shaped my perspective. I find myself not so much "dwelling on the past" or "hoping for the future" but more or less just trying to react and sort "properly" then I feel then my psyche will "align itself". Very difficult to describe. But I love listening to JP philosophize about this stuff. Never gets old. I feel like his work will be around for a LONG TIME.
@duhardrock7616
@duhardrock7616 7 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic class!!! Congratulations Prof. Jordan! Cheers from Brazil!!!!
@shivanshtyagi3254
@shivanshtyagi3254 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, if you're reading this I am reading Iain Mcgilchrist's master and his emissary. And your lectures are absolutely complimentary along with the book since the same philosophers and their ideas of intersubjectivity are raised there too. Thanks for uploading your lectures.
@adnanahmad1051
@adnanahmad1051 5 жыл бұрын
Most interesting lecture so far in the course!
@bert.hbuysse5569
@bert.hbuysse5569 3 жыл бұрын
A great professor, narator and speaker. Thank you DR. Peterson.
@joeldio2
@joeldio2 8 ай бұрын
Anyone here been through the Landmark Forum and Curriculum for Living will absolutely get this bang on !
@lifecloud2
@lifecloud2 Жыл бұрын
When I was a little girl, my mother used to read to me. I remember being amazed by the fact that she could decipher what to me were images on a page and translate these into a story. I had such a difficult time figuring this out. Where did the story come from? How did she know what was there? I once asked her, "What's it like to read?" She tried to explain this to me, but a child who has no experience with anything like this is just at a loss to understand what someone who can read can magically do.
@rezkerry8809
@rezkerry8809 Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing that you can remember that.
@lifecloud2
@lifecloud2 Жыл бұрын
@@rezkerry8809 I think we remember things that surprise or shock us ... things that catch our attention in a surprising way. This happens even in childhood. I tested this a few years ago. I was walking down the hall to the restroom at work and there was a trail of star shaped confetti on the floor along the way. Usually I would ignore this and it would be out of my life experience forever. But as an experiment, I decided to deliberately set it in my memory .... like a photograph. That's why I remember it now (along with the fact that i often repeat this story ). When I was 11 years old, I was waiting on the stairway at my grandmother's house waiting for my cousin to bring over her fiancé to introduce to the family. I realized in that moment that my life would exist as a time when I didn't know "Bruce" and a time when I did ... that meeting this guy would alter my life direction forever (I was a strange child! HAHA!). So, I decided to capture that "before" moment in a type of mental photograph. To this day, at 73 years of age, I still hold a strong memory of that moment. The idea is to play with this. It's only when I try to remember the details of the rest of those two days that I lose those memories. That afternoon sitting with my mother being amazed by her ability to decipher those images on the page, holds detail of that moment: the chair, the sound of her voice, the sunny room, the feel of the air. But I think this is likely based on my age at the time and the strength of my amazement. Hold on to that sense of wonder and amazement with life and allow for the gaps in detail.
@timblackburn4638
@timblackburn4638 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful stuff here man
@reynemanzano
@reynemanzano 11 ай бұрын
Peterson’s description of the letter to medical school as a “portal to one of two futures,” his pointing out your shaking as you hold it in anticipation of whether you passed or not, and it’s determining of what the past was in relation to the outcome blew my fucking mind. I understood the idea unconsciously, but to hear it articulated is profound. (First 9 minutes of lecture)
@AirsickHydra
@AirsickHydra 3 жыл бұрын
Of all the lectures this has to be one of my favourites.
@krystilynn3403
@krystilynn3403 3 жыл бұрын
I like how he gives examples for everything.
@harkyo
@harkyo 3 жыл бұрын
That's what it means to understand something.
@automobili5796
@automobili5796 3 жыл бұрын
Dreams are so powerful. The first dream that I dared to write manifested itself much later. It was scary but clearly, the message was encoded right on it. It's not a pleasant outcome but I'm glad I wrote it down
@shelbyrenovations3740
@shelbyrenovations3740 Жыл бұрын
There is no way I'd ever absorb enough to pass on of his classes I listen to them over and over and learn something new every time His knowledge and understanding is priceless
@duffharris9295
@duffharris9295 5 жыл бұрын
Heidegger would've cringed at you equating Dasein to subjectivity. His whole goal was to overcome the Cartesian subject. See "The Age of the World-Picture", et al.
@antonyliberopoulos933
@antonyliberopoulos933 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jordan for opening our minds
@Heartracer
@Heartracer 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what an honor it would have been to have this class
@robertlee2262
@robertlee2262 2 жыл бұрын
Struggling to understand here for the first time so far, but not discouraged.
@mikegreenguitar
@mikegreenguitar 3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely brilliant
@southoceann
@southoceann 9 ай бұрын
Jordan gaze is so intense, Idk what I would do if he were to look at me for 15 sec during the lecture
@MrGorobu
@MrGorobu 6 жыл бұрын
What a lecture! Thank you!
@nuni6158
@nuni6158 23 күн бұрын
The idea of pathology as failing to bear the responsibility for your being (around 46:00 ) is really interesting - reminds me of Weil's thought of human being's responsibility towards oneself on a deserted island.
@XyZiid
@XyZiid 2 жыл бұрын
Such a brilliant brilliant lecture 👏
@donnachaobrien90
@donnachaobrien90 3 жыл бұрын
JP: Take that tile. It could take a painter a month to paint that tile. My brain: I would never hire a painter that took that long. Gimme a foam roller I'll do it in less than 10 seconds.
@davidschwartz5127
@davidschwartz5127 Жыл бұрын
This was a tuff lecture for me, I will need to watch this again, a lot of this went over my head.
@Roberto-dd1te
@Roberto-dd1te 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan elaborates on the ontological meaning of cleaning your room!
@seanvassar1117
@seanvassar1117 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is where Jordan shines
@Milestonemonger
@Milestonemonger 6 жыл бұрын
This was a tough lecture to follow, but the examples and the stories attached helped tremendously.
@pcstew3
@pcstew3 7 жыл бұрын
your lectures are inspiring my art. I'm currently making one of my shadow and jiminy cricket. I'd love for you to see it when im done.
@Lyotac
@Lyotac 7 жыл бұрын
How are you going to unite with your shadow if you dont mind me asking?
@TheMedWolf
@TheMedWolf 7 жыл бұрын
I like to troll online, personally.
@nadjiguemarful
@nadjiguemarful 7 жыл бұрын
Ilya Dubovoy Still more a sophisticated artform than Twilight
@mare652
@mare652 6 жыл бұрын
I have found the same artistic inspiration from his lectures, only it is in the form of poetry. Thanks to Peterson and Bob Dylan both whom I started listening to this past summer. I am working on a book of poetry and watercolor.
@lukszlis
@lukszlis 3 жыл бұрын
"The art is beyond what's articulable, otherwise its not art it's just propaganda." That's the best definition of art I've ever heard.
@sayenshin
@sayenshin 4 жыл бұрын
10:36 and on is an extraordinary way of describing quantum physics (coming from a physicist engineer) and putting an internal reality into elementary particules.
@blaghmrblafh4348
@blaghmrblafh4348 5 жыл бұрын
To those criticizing that late girl... I use to drive 2 hours and 30 mins to get to university... and would be late, getting harsh looks from people in the lecture theater who..lived on campus.
@timbradshaw5481
@timbradshaw5481 5 жыл бұрын
@blagh mrblafh so? Lol Why not ask yourself why you relate everything to your own life.
@oj7442
@oj7442 5 жыл бұрын
you could have used to saved petrol money and bought a flat closer m8 XD
@blaghmrblafh4348
@blaghmrblafh4348 5 жыл бұрын
Lifes more complicated then that :)
@wmritchey1101
@wmritchey1101 2 жыл бұрын
This gentleman is so misunderstood by many because they fail to really listen without bias. Learning takes time, effort and a decision by one's own will tooi understand.
@WaylonFlinn
@WaylonFlinn 7 жыл бұрын
In my mind science, and the objectification it creates, are about establishing invariants. First, it established invariants across the experience of separate individuals. Second, it sought invariants across time and space (after those concepts were identified as foundational). In that sense I would say that "objectification" is not a single thing. It is a collection of things defined by the set of invariants across which it operates. Furthermore, if we experience meaning directly, we experience it not as a singular meaning, but instead as a plurality, a set of *potential* meanings. One of the functions of science, and observation in general, is to reduce this plurality of meaning to a singular or near singular set of meanings. This reduction of meanings yields power over the environment. Paradoxically, that power over the environment then leads to an even greater multiplicity of meanings. Since each object can now be manipulated in a greater number of ways, producing a greater number of possible outcomes. I would further posit that fear and anxiety are a direct result of the indeterminate multiplicity of meanings. The greater the number of possible meanings, the greater the level of fear and anxiety. In this way technology (the power yielded by science) leads to both nihilism and totalitarianism.
@myriamlopez9853
@myriamlopez9853 4 жыл бұрын
Gracias Prof. Peterson desde Colombia. Aprecio mucho sus enseñanzas.
@chickenshieee
@chickenshieee 4 жыл бұрын
Wow ... fav lecture of dr Jordan
@yossarian1633
@yossarian1633 3 жыл бұрын
There aren't enough of those Tim & Eric mind blown gifs on the internet for this lecture. I need to listen to this one again at least once my brain can barely keep up
@shadybrain3424
@shadybrain3424 7 жыл бұрын
this was such a fascinating lecture those 46 minutes felt like they went by in 10. you sir are a good teacher. and if you're wondering yes this is my first time watching his lectures.
@b.w.8104
@b.w.8104 7 жыл бұрын
shadybrain3424 be careful, he's more addicting than anything on Netflix.
@shadybrain3424
@shadybrain3424 7 жыл бұрын
yeah i just wanted something calm that i could goto sleep to, but i ended up just staying up and fully engaged the whole time.
@yourpoodlebobthefish
@yourpoodlebobthefish 7 жыл бұрын
hurrah, more lectures!
@xXKM4UXx
@xXKM4UXx 2 жыл бұрын
I used the concept of phenomenology in my A.I Masters to explain an experiment in my autonomous vehicle thesis
@joelmarr6590
@joelmarr6590 5 жыл бұрын
26:29 - damn I wish I could do that with my pen...
@tamih532
@tamih532 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, he's some kind of magician
@RabiWielkiePracie
@RabiWielkiePracie 4 жыл бұрын
Shes skilled with her hands huh? xD
@leacwpc
@leacwpc 3 жыл бұрын
It's called pen spinnnig "thumb around" you can learn it on youtube lol
@Flux799
@Flux799 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a Canadian skill. One must learn it to live in the country.
@joelmarr6590
@joelmarr6590 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flux799 I am Canadian lol
@woundedtiger1213
@woundedtiger1213 5 жыл бұрын
I remember the chaos orbs from final fantasy 1. In the quest you have to restore the light to the orbs and defeat chaos . I thought it was just a really cool game. I had no idea it was so deep appealing to my psyche through archetypes. With the archtypical heros journey.
@belletense3618
@belletense3618 Жыл бұрын
So I’ve watched this vid a lot of times over the years and have just put two things together. When traveling to Japan there are a lot of words and phrases that I pick up on. I even started reading licence plates and objects around me which shocked my mom. She said my Japanese had gotten a lot better, and it did over there. But I think that’s because I didn’t see a square block with buttons, I saw a remote with a function, and new the patterns that remote have, so I was able to operate the tv very well over there. I could use basic home devices after putting patterns to objects to words. I could even use things like ATMs in the Japanese setting and more! Just never connected this concept with language acquisition before. Thought it was cool.
@shelbyrenovations3740
@shelbyrenovations3740 Жыл бұрын
This comment was another instant epiphany of ways to learn and observe things Thank you 😊 another idea I will put in my batman toolbelt
@dierotepillephilosophie1428
@dierotepillephilosophie1428 7 жыл бұрын
This guy is on a roll these days.... Woow
@ballomj
@ballomj 6 жыл бұрын
I idolize this man
@robertpalmer8371
@robertpalmer8371 7 жыл бұрын
I finally feel like I understand Heidegger.
@adder257
@adder257 7 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of these videos, I am drawn back to Dr. Peterson's conversation with Sam Harris. I can see from both sides of the argument, and the ideas presented are useful tools, but I have to come down on Dr. Harris's side in terms of the most efficient understanding of the world, and truth. Knowing how human beings model that internally, what little engines and personalities in the mind pre-digest the world for us, doesn't change that. I keep coming back to the idea of a simulated world. If you're a player, you see the entire game in terms of how it affects you, but if you're the programmer, you always find the idea of objects as a more minimal representation. It's all about what's more interesting to you: the streams of your own possibilities, or modeling the world itself in the most simple way. If you're solipsistic, the whole world is about understanding the self. But if you're social or a scientist, thinking of the world in terms of objects is always going to be the more efficient representation of how to think about possibilities.
@drotibotivoti
@drotibotivoti 7 жыл бұрын
love it!
@quanganhhoang6670
@quanganhhoang6670 2 жыл бұрын
The part about curiosity is both complex and mind-blowing. The example of the quidditch game really intrigued me because cause there are many ways to interpret it. One way is we have to live a normal life in this material world but at the same time, we are attracted to something else chasing another thing that is not in the material world. Somebody would call the second path spiritual one. The very first manifestation of it, or the very first curiosity over the second one is the question 'who am I', 'what am I supposed to do in this life', 'that's it? is there anything else that matters that we need to pay attention to in this world?' About imagination, it's like a way of conveying some information from the unknown, which I consider a positive way of usage. How about the act of imagining bad things much more than necessary? Does it send a signal back to the unknown or send a message to somewhere or somebody else? What happens to us if messages are received, in other words, if imagination is a 2-way pipeline?
@karensilver8853
@karensilver8853 2 жыл бұрын
This is my second viewing of the entire course. I am awed yet again; he nails it. I keep thinking this is the most rapt I have been since grad school--even more because I'm older. He's taking my psych training and my theology training and moving them together with an incredibly powerful and yet delicate hand.
@henri1_96
@henri1_96 3 жыл бұрын
i love that medical school example at the beginning :o
@beatsbury3209
@beatsbury3209 2 жыл бұрын
When Dr. Peterson, after a brief pause, says, “Look, …” I am ready to look as hard as I ever could. Because I know at that moment, for certain, that now he will make me see. As always.
@b.w.8104
@b.w.8104 7 жыл бұрын
seems to be a fine line between brilliance and schizophrenia
@Jazzhands1337
@Jazzhands1337 7 жыл бұрын
There can be no hope, without madness.
@nadjiguemarful
@nadjiguemarful 7 жыл бұрын
^Idiots
@VladimirPutin-cd4cl
@VladimirPutin-cd4cl 7 жыл бұрын
Means what?
@BrettonFerguson
@BrettonFerguson 7 жыл бұрын
It has to do with the connections we perceive between things. If you can see and understand subtle connections between ideas and to how things relate and interact you're a genius. When you start seeing connections so subtle they in reality don't exist, you're schizophrenic.
@iNinjaWalker
@iNinjaWalker 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure if, by "brilliance", you were referring to intelligence or creativity, but there are studies which link creativity with schizotypy. In association tests, people of high creativity scored more similarly to schizophrenic patients compared to people of normal creativity. Psychologists think that a core factor in creativity is the ability to draw novel associations, which is the ability to look at ordinary objects or concepts and examine them in ways that are beyond the ordinary. Among other things, flat associational hierarchies and cognitive disinhibition seem to be hallmark predictors of high creativity. Where a highly creative person and a schizophrenic differ though is in the former's ability to filter out associations which are too weak and alien to actually be consequential; separating the wheat from the chaff. Hence why people throughout history gave birth to the archetype of "the tortured artist".
@leacwpc
@leacwpc 3 жыл бұрын
2:35 6:40 das sein 9:59 25:35 29:16 objects revealing to you 31:22 where does curiosity comes from 43:04 dreams are at the forefront of thinking
@theBaron0530
@theBaron0530 3 жыл бұрын
"dah-zine", though.
@RickDelmonico
@RickDelmonico 5 жыл бұрын
A paradigm shift would look something like, "the universe is not made of material or stuff, it is made of information."
@dLzzzgaming
@dLzzzgaming 4 жыл бұрын
No, because matter already can be described as only information. A shift would be, I think, something like "Reality is made out of all the potential usage or impact of the information that exists"?
@gidi1899
@gidi1899 3 жыл бұрын
21:18 how about first comes the new data (image), then it is SOME image recognition, then the whats recognized is searched for meaning. THEN repeat the process to extract more recognition and then more meaning .... 27:25 Definition: Real to a person constitute of all the new information (that can't be imagined) that is assimilated or that was.
@studiostandards
@studiostandards 5 жыл бұрын
8:32 EMP wave blowing everything away! :)
@dwilliams9801
@dwilliams9801 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@emilybitzel7242
@emilybitzel7242 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
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