2017 Personality 16: Biology/Traits: Incentive Reward/Neuroticism

In this lecture, I continue my discussion of the relationship between subcortical brain processes and the big five personality traits identified by psychometric researchers, focusing on the relationship between positive/negative emotion and extraversion/neuroticism.
This is a repost from a 2014 lecture, but the slides are edited in. I was not available for this class, and the scheduled replacement speaker had to cancel.
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[@Pentamicle]

The more I watch these lectures, the more I understand how badly me and many people who I see around me were raised.

[@Kenspiracy664]

I know right!

[@napoleon_bonaparte2462]

More people need to hear it, and then maybe it will happen to less people.

[@nothinglikeburntvag]

That actually resonates with me, and as my own child was due yesterday, I'm REALLY glad to have some of the heads up he provides in his lectures!

[@landmatter]

Too fuckin' true, eh?

[@zacharycieszinski5465]

same, i feel like i didn't learn anything of value about real life until i was 18

[@isambo400]

These free lectures are better than all the lectures I paid 10 grand a year for combined

[@fernanditonh5994]

Second Thoughts what if you didn’t previously agree with/now about the ideas? We’re not all psychology majors lmao

[@wgwefofwefgwnsonwer1945]

JP would tell you that you might start by blaming yourself for that like Solzhenitzyn: Were the classes you took not interesting? If they were did the instructor dumb it down? What could you have done to make sure that despite the dumbed down classes you still learned? There's a lot of bullshit that I saw in college, but the people who were most proactive seemed to always get the most out of it. The more we take responsibility for the better we can do.

[@SebasChanneru]

@@wgwefofwefgwnsonwer1945 that's a weirdly good comment from a guy with a name like that

[@saffigrey5887]

I know right

[@BlurryDays]

It’s about 1000 times easier to learn when there’s no test at the end.

[@JasonDearmin]

The hypothalamus is absolutely NO JOKE

[@JasonDearmin]

USE YOUR BRAIN STEM TO RESCUE YOUR FATHER

[@Tony855C]

jugbuns Jordan, would you like to come eat dinner with the children? JBP: No, I'm watching Pinocchio again.

[@JasonDearmin]

Tony855C "Children quit whining and eat your snakes! You should be thankful. Snakes gave us vision!"

[@Kshea44ify]

If this were the Ukraine not one hundred years ago, I'd be eating you, bucko!

[@jagpro91]

Well, roughly speaking.

[@Hexanitrobenzene]

Pretty detailed outline of the lecture: 1:58 Largest part of motivational system is in hypothalamus. 3:40 Emotions track progress towards goals. 3:54 Basic motivations. 4:30 Mental equivalents of pain: grief, frustration, disappointment, loneliness. 8:52 Book: Jaak Panksepp "Affective neuroscience". 9:55 Rats can laugh :) Ultrasonically, though. 10:20 Father's role in a socialization of children. 13:55 Half of hypothalamus is devoted to exploration. 17:38 Goals and consciousness. 19:50 Parts of hypothalamus. 20:40 Model of nervous system functional organisation. 25:38 Somatomotor neuron pools. 26:40 Locomotor pattern generator. 27:24 Experiment with paraplegic people. 28:01 Locomotor pattern controller. 29:27 "Hypthalamic" animal is hyper-exploratory. 32:07 Sensory systems have dual outputs. 36:41 Integration of motor system and hypothalamus. 37:32 Effect of trauma. Dangers of abstraction. 40:50 Constraints on sensorimotor perception-action hierarchy. 43:45 Basic emotions. Two kinds of positive emotions. Consummatory reward. 46:20 Incentive reward. 49:39 Negative emotions. 51:15 Encountering novelty. 54:10 Predicted/unpredicted outcome. 55:45 Neuroticism roughly corresponds with the strength of negative emotion system. Same with extroversion and positive emotions. 56:47 Learning theory. Rewards. 57:04 Serotonin is a satiating neurochemical. 57:37 Dopamin is an exploratory neurochemical. 59:49 Extraversion and neuroticism are not mutually exclusive. 1:01:00 Learning theory. Punishments. 1:02:00 Negative emotions are dampened by serotonin and GABA. GABA is anxiolitic (anxiety reducing). 1:02:45 Test for susceptibility to alcoholism. 1:04:15 Women are higher in neuroticism in general. 1:06:15 Hippocampus. 1:07:44 Reticular activation circuit. 1:09:21 How worried should you be when something you don't expect happens ? 1:11:50 One of the reasons why people don't like their beliefs being challenged.

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Jordan Peterson has among the best comment sections in youtube.

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"I know that's a lot to take in, but... Well, it doesn't matter, that's how it is." Basically this course in a nutshell, then, learning how it actually is for once. 49:14

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I'm old and you picked a good one to look up to.

[@latinaalma1947]

As a psychologist I can say you picked a good idol!

[@latinaalma1947]

I havent head him say here or really in any of his lectures I have watched so far, that a person can be Introverted and Open....or be Introverted and Low in Neuroticism.....people usually assume that Introversion, Low openness, And high neuroticism all go hand in hand invariably, that is the general assumption in society ie are very STRONGLY correlated but that is not true, not STRONGLY...they certainly CAN occur clustered like that but they do not always!! Keep that in mind bec it matters when treating people clinically. SYbilFrancis PhD, ret psychologist

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[@ChrisBarrLive]

Yes and we have the same name besides one letter, how bizarre! Wishing you well. :)

[@theologynerd1689]

I'm in Georgia. Our lockdown is pretty much over. I'm listening to the lectures on personality to psych myself up to watch the lectures on the biblical series. I have studied the bible from a believing perspective. I have been a believer for years and have not watched the biblical series thinking it would be too cringy. But I'm sure it will be good.

[@7890tom7890]

@@theologynerd1689 I finished it last week, its absolutely incredible.

[@uxyogi]

I did this whole course twice so good for me.... Also this particular lecture is quite informative especially if you love cognitive neuroscience and personality.

[@andrasfazekas8147]

And now again repeat :D

[@Milestonemonger]

I've always loved psychology, but JBP takes it to a whole new level.

[@jacobaguiar8018]

I've sat in a lot of lectures. I've had a lot of great teachers and Prof. but I have never felt compelled to applaud a lecture. That is some next level shit. Dr. P drops atomic truth bombs.

[@CurtHowland]

Jacob Aguiar No joke! I doubt many profs get applause! None of mine did, even if it was a great class.

[@DiegoRodriguez-qu4mz]

I love how you called him Dr.P

[@mainemavin]

Says even more when the applause is when he steps to the lectern. I am grateful to have stumbled across Dr.P's lectures.

[@nIrUbU01]

Here in germany it is common to "applaud" for the lecturer after every lecture. Maybe it is like that in canada too

[@liahk1000]

Very rare instead! We applauded the professor Hans Rosling, when he did his gapminder lectures on the development of countries. Eveyone was like hyper focused every lecture with him. It's a true privilege to attend such lecture! And privilege to listen to these from home!

[@tanyamalan6234]

I am a woman in my 50's. I have always found the complexities and mechanics of our human brain fascinating whether it was at a conscious, subconscious, chemical, emotional, hormonal or involuntary level and how does this influence decision making & behavioural patterns. How much is based on instinctual wiring, environmental factors and learnt or taught behaviour..What makes us tick essentially. I find these lectures highly beneficial and eye opening to my curiosities on the subject. We are a truly a highly complex force of nature on all spheres. Which is something to marvel at. I have been searching for years to find a person who can really dig down into the mechanics of our grey matter and so eloquently and coherently lecture on the subject that makes me curious for more! I have always considered myself to think in black and white with no grey areas. Since a child, I have always had an inquiring mind, which sometimes drove my parents insane because for every question I'd ask, their answers (bless them) would never really satisfy me. My standard "but why" or "how is this possible" often got met with, " you'll understand when you're older". Which made me wish for coherant understanding, sooner rather than later! Dr Peterson's lectures have reignited my insatiable interest on this subject, and I am better for it. Thank you Dr Peterson.

[@zuzusuperfly8363]

Very interesting to hear that panic and escape are connected. A had a panic attack a couple of months ago for the first time, and most of the experience was tingling in my feet and the desire to stand up, go down stairs and pace back and forth. The desire to change location felt unstoppable.

[@arrianne311]

Zuzu Superfly Yes I agree. It is very much a feeling of I can’t be still I have to get out of here and go somewhere, but I don’t know where.

[@Xenophilius]

I had an argument with my dad in high school that made me really emotional; I knocked over a decoration and ran out the sliding glass door and jumped over the short fence into the yard which connected all the townhouses. Then I just... walked for miles and miles. I just had to put distance between my dad and me. I got lost among the rich neighborhoods and golf courses that surrounded our house. Eventually I calmed down and made my way back and made up, but it was an interesting example of the flight instinct kicking in rather strongly.

[@Xenophilius]

Another time, I was working a grocery job stocking produce. It was 5am and I was alone on my shift and two pallets of freight came in that I had to unload and stock myself. The temperature outside was about 28 degrees Fahrenheit. I suddenly had a vivid, strong desire to move to Nevada. I'm not joking or exaggerating; I had a friend in Nevada and started making plans for moving to Nevada and seeing if I could stay with him while I got situated. I ended up texting my boss to say I quit, and getting into my car onto the on-ramp of the highway, planning to go home and pack my things and drive to Nevada. I didn't have a concrete reason to move to Nevada, I just felt that I had to put as much distance as possible between my employer and myself, and my friend was the first person to come to mind. I didn't end up moving to Nevada. I got home and talked to my mother and calmed down, although I still lost that job. It was an interesting moment in my life.

[@pranjalsisodia5003]

For my own reference- 0:58 Learning Theory (Behaviorism). 2:05 Goals tune/filter your perceptions according to the relevancy to the pursuit of the goal. Goals -> perceptions -> facts collected (only ones relevant to the goal) 3:51 Basic motivations. (Sigmund Freud associated them with the "Id"). 4:56 Pain, Psychological pain, Loneliness. 5:36 Chronic psychological pain (depression) often also generates physical pain. 5:47 Loneliness as a psychological pain state, Opioids, Analgesics. 6:29 6:45 Two types of aggression - defensive aggression (associated with Neuroticism) & predatory aggression. 7:16 Predatory aggression circuit & Maternal solicitude (care) circuit evolved to be at the opposite ends of the same normal distribution. (Seems like an inference) 14:28 15:18 20:30 ******* 23:25 Humans as not just good at thinking but also movement. Can perform body movements that no other animal can. (Computation capacity > any other hardware.) 29:05 Episodic memory. 29:29 29:47 33:06 36:21 ******** 37:53 Dangers/disadvantages of the ability to abstract. 40:05 Susceptibility of depressed people to over-generalize (especially negative things). 40:20 The correct approach to diagnosing/solving a problem - (solve locally first) diagnose the problem locally first, then, if still persisting, more laterally & vertically up the tree of abstraction tree. 43:44 Basic Emotions (& their Classification into Behavioural activation & Behavioural inhibition) 43:50 Extraversion & Neuroticism. 55:40 Inclination towards the Positive-emotion system (extraversion) Vs towards the Negative-emotion system (neuroticism) 55:52 Units of positive emotion per unit of promise/hope contrasting with units of negative emotion per unit of threat. 43:56 Two types of classifications of positive emotions - Satiation (successful full execution of a motivated frame, consummatory reward, unconditioned/unlearned reward) & Incentive (moving forward or the perception of progress). 45:57 Satiation reward brings the motivated frame to an end. 46:58 Have their roots in the Hypothalamus. 47:27 Incentive (dopaminergic) rewards are more intense/powerful than satiation (serotonergic) rewards. (Atomic Habits book says the same thing.) 47:54 Incentive & conditioned rewards are generally categorized into the same bucket but they are not always the same. 48:48 50:52 Disgust is not associated with Neuroticism. (But is with Conscientiousness) 53:51 56:44 Summary of positive rewards. 57:02 Consummatory rewards decrease Neuroticism (Signals ascendancy in the dominance/competence hierarchy)*********** 1:02:00 1:02:04 Serotonergic keeps everything in balance. ******** 1:00:59 Summary of punishments. 1:02:13 GABA - decreases anxiety. Alcohol (dampens anxiety. Also dopaminergic for some people.) 1:04:19 The Neurotic difference b/w men & women is more enhanced in egalitarian countries (contrary to conventional thinking). 1:04:33 As you equalize the society in terms of gender, the personality difference b/w the two genders aggravates (not converge). 1:05:23 Evolutionary hypothesis for the reason for a std deviation more neuroticism in women. (Inference, not a fact) 1:07:12 The Hypocampus inhibits the negative emotion system (Amygdylla & Hypothalamus) if there's a match b/w expectation & desire (crudely expectation & outcome). Activates it otherwise. 1:09:09 1:10:10 The reason for the existence of many different temperaments in a population. 1:11:49 Don't refute other people's faith or beliefs unnecessarily. It punches a hole & sometimes even destroys their abstraction hierarchy. Many atheists are guilty of doing this. 1:12:29 Summary of the lecture through the Medusa example. Words associated with satiation (serotonergic) rewards - peace, content, gratitude, tranquil. (Signals ascendancy in the dominance/competence hierarchy) Words associated with incentive (dopaminergic) rewards - happy, hope, curiosity, excitement, enthusiasm, novelty, assertiveness. The above notes imply that without a goal & its pursuit, there's no happiness.

[@cristobalmoncada4698]

I love how this is a free "behind the making" of sorts of 12 Rules for Life.

[@BodanReykjavik]

Axiomatic presupposition, my dudes.

[@GeorgeJewitt]

TucksDelluxe huh?

[@dunebuggy1292]

An intellectual way to say self-evident truth.

[@outsidethepyramid]

+TucksDelluxe pretentious poseur

[@GeorgeJewitt]

a logical axiom isn't a presupposition...and nor are truths ground in fact...

[@alpiwiththebigballs]

Self evident truth sounds intellectual enough.

[@weeearthlings]

Really fascinating the idea of the ‘Cataclysmic overgeneralization' associated with depression. I’ve definitely observed, even experienced this. It seems this phenomenon makes sense as both symptom and cause of depression. Where by - A small mistake gets applied at the highest level of meaning... i did something a ‘good person’ wouldn’t do…therefore, i MUST be a horrible person. Although I’ve never been clinically depressed as such, I can see how, taken to an extreme this way of thinking can emotionally dismember a persons life. "i did something a loving person wouldn’t do… therefore i am unworthy of love." 'i did something a person in love wouldn’t do… therefore, i am not in love.' 'i did something a ‘good person’ wouldn’t do… therefore i deserve to die.' Depressed people can be hyper sensitive to perceived criticism - which is I suppose an extension of this over generalization onto ‘the other’. Where a small comment / gesture / behavior’ is construed to mean they don’t love me. is there scope for (or an existent) whole video on this phenomena and how to help point out or counter, when a person is doing this behavior?

[@samwallaceart288]

I’ve had cycles of thought like that. It’s like a battle in your head where half of you wants to die and the other half is fed up with the formers’ inability to keep it together. “Keep it together or I will fucking kill you,” is a stressful thing to unironically say to yourself, which i have. No ideavhow normal it is, but it’s not healthy. It’s like an engine that’s shifted between gears but it’s jammed; so on the outside nothing is moving, but on the inside, everything is grinding into each other at once destroying itself, and the engine is melting itself into a mess of hot metal, and the only way anyone even notices that something’s wrong is because the engine isn’t doing its job and is making a dying noise. That’s what I felt; it’s either depression or chronic anxiety, perhaps both. The way I can slowly walk myself out of it is to remember, “you’re not dying; your gears are just jammed right now”. And so you slow down, disengage the jammed gear, clean it off, and put it back in the right spot, and restart the engine at a nice low speed keeping an eye on it, adjusting it where it diverges so that it can go longer before needing another repair. Don’t think like a tight-rope where one wrong step is death; think like an engineer who’s willing to use some gum and duct tape to get the engine good enough. Then from there once you get some momentum, your mind has a way of healing yourself with only moderate adjustments here and there.

[@nanceokech1911]

I thought I'd I'd get the answer to your qn at the end of your comment, but, I guess I'll also just camp here in waiting.

[@obiwankenobi6871]

Watching these and seeing other people’s reactions to this really makes me feel grateful for having an awesome family and supportive parents which others do not have

[@MarthMain]

Yo this lecture was mind blowing. The way he articulates these ideas is such a treat to listen to. It’s honestly a joy.

[@cctx3940]

tfw you're high in openness, neurotic, introverted, low in conscientiousness, and very agreeable.

[@WhoopaDoopaYay]

Looks like we're in the same boat!

[@chuggns]

Chris Cs. Learning to be more conscientious is not that hard. Just pick a routine and become it. If you're high in openness you can always out think your circumstances and adapt to thrive in any situation. Just gradually add more routines deliberately chosen to help you achieve a thought out goal. You're agreeable so you have to agree with my opinion

[@harryseth4323]

Same here mate

[@mountassaralimi8884]

I am the same !!!

[@malkavian6275]

yep. kill me

[@GregoryTheNew]

Both public and private school systems failed me. I never thought I'd be watching, for leisure, a lecture on the incentive reward system in human beings in anything beyond a 10th-grade level. Wild stuff.

[@fallensnipa]

I find Prof Peterson's classes amazing! I always wanted to study psychology as Human behavior is fascinating to me but to start a 2nd career was too far-fetched. To listen to him so masterfully explain this topic is a real pleasure. Thanks for uploading this content!

[@toddschmidt5005]

So much knowledge in one breath. It blows my mind how so much truth/knowledge can be spoken in 2-3 sentences. Thank u JBP. TU

[@ModulerDrone]

These lectures are extremely interesting and engaging. Thank you for the uploads!

[@kjvail]

Dr Peterson, this is great stuff. It fills in the connections between my BA in empirical developmental psychology and my MA in psychoanalytic clinical psychology

[@Bamskki]

I can't believe I'm able to receive this much value for free. Thank you Jordan

[@anetkagreen2697]

I am amazed with Dt Peterson wisdom. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. We are blessed.

[@1995yuda]

This is going to help be be a better Marketer. Peterson is the gift that keeps on giving. Incredible.

[@viniciusferreira4984]

After finding myself a bit disenchanted with the cult of personality that has grown out of Dr. Peterson's lectures, it's nice to remember the true value that his work holds. That is, for me, at least.

[@robertalexander7286]

I agree with you in respect of the cult of personality, although I'm not sure that he consciously set out to achieve that; he has been posting for quite a few years, it really looks as if he just happened to be a voice of reasonableness in the time of confusion that seems to be with us. I just hope he doesn't succumb to it.

[@leejacobus5305]

Vinícius Ferreira appreciation is not cult following. Talent is always admirable

[@jamesbarthelemy5926]

Two years later, I'm here to second that. These lectures were... Very special.

[@zahassanyum]

This is so brilliant. Jordan Peterson really gives you a nice overview and a framework for how we should perceive ourselves and the reality around us, so that it makes the most sense and that we could actually benefit from our understanding of it. After watching this video and knowing a little about the nature and function of our nervous system, combined with the little knowledge I already have about the reality that might be called experience, I feel like I might have got a new set of tools that I can make use of to keep myself motivated in general. It would probably help me, from now on, to start analyzing and thinking about each of my otherwise ordiary routine actions as motivational systems, that I can appreciate or eliminate to remain happy consequently (and to stop blaming others for my own depression which, at least in my case, would be the lack of undertaking proper action toward the big or small goals that I've conciously or subconsciously set in my life.) I'm sharing this just so that others may also think about the knowledge in this video in terms of that. This is amazing stuff. :)

[@darylhaaland1174]

Brain distributed throughout the body is a huge part of the work of Dr. Marco Ruggiero, Fascinating stuff in this lecture to say the very least of it. I'm absolutely riveted.

[@antonyliberopoulos933]

Thank you Jordan Peterson. It is a blessing to have you.

[@OscarGeronimo]

4:30 Pain (physical and mental equivalence) 21:45 Kinetic Melodies (Alexander Luria) 1:02:13 GABA and alcohol.

[@m3po22]

18:30 What consciousness does (slide up and down levels of abstraction) Thinking is exploring 26:20 Spine is smart. Senses, generates patterns, moves. Paraplegic people can walk controlled by only spine. 28:40 Cats can live with only hypothalamus. Exploration is old. Memory is inhibitory. 32:00 visual data branches in 2 directions. Occipital and directly to the motor system. 33:00 animals are fundamentally simple machines with complexity layered on top. 34:20 Snakes are patterns easily recognized by primates.

[@cristinalacoste2062]

I love this man. I've had a limited education so watching Dr. Peterson's lectures and talks has given me a gift of incalculable value. I am grateful for, and awed by, his efforts in our behalf.

[@mainemavin]

I feel the same. Very grateful.

[@grinreaperoftrolls7528]

I may not be in college right now, but I just love listening to this man speak.

[@davidgarvin7823]

Thank you so much for uploading your lectures Dr. Peterson.

[@RSanchez111]

The second half of the course has all the biological justifications for Dr. Peterson's ideas, and damn are they difficult to get. I have to watch these second half videos 2-3 times before I can say I have a good understanding of the ideas, and every time I watch them it's like I learn something new from how new things I learned in the first or second view frame the existing information. Great stuff!

[@joetheperformer]

Watching these lectures give me positive dopaminergic reward.

[@HanifCarroll]

I'm incredibly thankful that I watched this yesterday. At around the 45 minute mark, he explains consumatory reward and incentive reward. Focusing on the distinction between those two types of rewards was huge for me. I realized that, aside from a 30 day experimental period I've just finished going through, I had previously been abusing certain things that were high in consumatory reward and low in meaningful, incentive reward. Sugary and fast foods, masturbation, and even weed, even though I only ever smoked after I had finished all of my tasks for that day. I noticed that in the 30 day period without those things, I felt incredibly clear headed, motivated, focused, and confident. Goals made themselves clear to me, and I was determined to meet them. Waking up at 5 AM and being a sleep by 930 PM every day was no problem, and I woke up each morning looking forward to the opportunity to put in more work to reach my goals. This was in stark contrast to a rough couple of months that I had gone through just prior to this experiment, where I felt lost and without purpose. Then my 30 day challenge was up, and I decided to see how I would be affected by doing some of those things again. Immediate satiation. It was like being lulled into an overwhelming feeling of complacency. Not to mention how comparatively impulsive I was after smoking. The feelings of satiation and being content even carried over until the next morning, making it very hard to get out of bed or think about my daily to-do list. I wanted to post this as a way to say thank you to Dr. Peterson for all that he's done to allow me to personally get my life in order, and I hope this comment can also be helpful to someone else out there. I also want to be clear that I'm in no way saying that masturbation, weed, or any of those things will make you lazy or complacent. I'm just sharing some of the surprising things that I realized about myself; things that I wish I had realized sooner.

[@szeredaiakos]

Jordan B Peterson seems to find rat laughter particularly fascinating

[@mohandasjung]

szeredai akos But it is incredibly fascinating!

[@ricardohernandezvega8588]

No more fascinating than human's, no less

[@Papa-Squat]

@@ricardohernandezvega8588 it's fascinating because of its parallel to the human equivalent. The implication is that our circuits are so primitive that they are evident across species. It's not clear to what extent this is true. Not unlike the whole lobster-SSRI response

[@ricardohernandezvega8588]

@@Papa-Squat yes, I agree C. J. What I was going for with my comment was that szeredai's comment took notice of Jordan's fascination with rat laughter as if rat laughter wasn't a thing of significance and so Jordan's interest might be unwarranted or rare. But rat laughter is fascinating and warrants fascination, by itself and by the parallelism you mention, as interesting as it would be to notice the significance of human laughter and its own implications. By the way, thank you for your clarifying comment, for well characterizing the core of the matter 👍

[@Papa-Squat]

@@ricardohernandezvega8588 Yeah we're all pretty weird creatures

[@TheFusedplug]

Dr Peterson has already helped me in invaluable ways he can regard me as a 46 year old student the only thing is I've watched big chunks of different videos in no particular order I just need to make my learning experience a more organised one other than that I don't worry because I'm having the time of my life learning all this factual magic

[@cameronw.2775]

Sending love Doc!

[@MaciejJura]

i like listening to this man, he's got somewhat of an engineer inside

[@randygraham7966]

The structure of the human mind

[@darkestafrica3]

Excellent summary of the video at 56:45 where he pulls it all together. I had to watch the whole thing twice to understand what he meant.

[@Intrafacial86]

I took a Big 5 test last week and turned up low in extraversion and high in neuroticism, which tracks with how I feel. My few lasting friendships were started by sharing situations where we depended on eachother for survival and then gradually grew into something rewarding and familiar. It’s like building defensive walls first and then seeing what pops up on the inside. It’s also weird that neurotic stimuli are kinda like anti-goals. Normal goals are like a fixed point in space with an infinite number of possible starting points. However, the anti-goals are points you can go in almost any direction to get away from, and as such could land you anywhere in life.

[@theSUICIDEfox]

12:30 Peterson: "You can tell when a dog wants to _play_ " Dog from back row: "Play!"

[@tezzo55]

:-) " I know that's a lot to take in, but, it doesn't matter, because that's how it is." LOL Indeed professor Peterson, that most definitely is, how it is. Thank you sir, for being here to tell us. i've been wanting to know these things all my life, and now you're here to share them, in my room, for free. i know that's evolution, but it feels like magic to me. Thanks and wow!

[@skylar.benson]

It’s small but significant, the fact that each of his classes end in applause. When’s the last time you gave an ovation to a professor for a regularly scheduled lecture?

[@maguszeal5818]

Agreed

[@hstapes]

Never! Good point.

[@gobboilino6285]

So much enthusiasm and information. Thank you.

[@chaitanyadeshmane8243]

At 44.14 he gave a correct defination of Seretonin hormone. Thank you sir.

[@stephanfowler8885]

It would sure be nice if we had more professors like Dr. Peterson.

[@olivierelbougnadere4117]

Fluid, elegent and interesting. That wath is Peterson's lectures.

[@christoskettenis880]

Dr Peterson, great lecture series and I agree with your positions a lot because your principles are very similar to mine. The issue I have with your point of a distributed "being" throughout the nervous system is that the brain alone is what holds the "being", one's self. You have been talking in this and the previous lecture about seeing and walking with our spines and I have no reason to doubt the validity of your claims even though I am not a biologist. However, you are talking about sensory "awareness" of our bodies (similar to triggering hunger for example) which is not the same as being conscious or alive. A severed limb or spinal cord does not remove one's self even though this condition may "imprison" him within his body. All memories and personality traits are stored and manifested by the brain. If the brain dies, the person dies and disappears regardless if the heart or spine remain functional. A transplant would not make me another person; so will not a head transplant. In the latter, I would simply change a body and I would not have access to any personality traits nor experience of the person whom I received the body from. And lastly, a blind person may be able to see because the nervous system is extremely plastic and this is the reason why, most probably, we can learn virtually everything. As always, I love to listen to you and your lectures. Keep up the good work Dr!

[@missspentyouth3819]

Amazes me everything. Soo greatful

[@jaybird6034]

This man is brilliant!

[@minusstage3]

Wow he's rock solid here! Thanks JP!!

[@Vamsea]

This is definitely worth listening to especially during rush hour

[@empathintheoffice4415]

Wow what a satisfying lecture!

[@adeadgirl13]

I wish my lecturer gave homework that included going to a bar and doing 5 shots.

[@mirzajelacic961]

Yehaaaaw

[@harisonxavier9441]

Thank you Jordan Peterson..... Love it

[@ebolahh_same8610]

That last bit hit home and it was humbling

[@Amused_Comfort_Inc]

I have watched every personality lecture in order and 15 and 16 have been my hardest to get through. I left for a few weeks but I'm ready to learn again, see you at the end of these.

[@user-ne4mv6mg8p]

What are you doing while watching? Are you taking notes, or it’s just on in the background? I’m not sure how to go about this.

[@natureswhisper1397]

Really nice to know that alcohol is related not only to calmness but also to dopamine and that's why some people can become addicted to it... knowledge is power!

[@anthonydane2781]

Wow. doesn't fail to astound me. This man has literally Saved my Life. If I saw Jordan Peterson just nonchalant Crossing paths on the Street. I'd prolly just Break down and Cry. He's Helped me Heal so much. 2 years ago I was 30,Shooting Drugs in a bush,no Job,No Responsibility,no Goals,no Remorse for the Hurt and Pain I caused others as I sold them meth in exchange for a buck not knowing the fact that it was also a part of their soul that would eventually haunt my dreams. I was An Evil Human Being having Been Confronted by The Shadow of my own capacity for malevolence without Remorse,I was Broken By the Suffering I Caused,Truly Incinerated. waking up Most nights with Horrific Dreams of the experience of all those I had Tortured with that Evil Drug,and was on the verge of suicide. and One Night I was scrolling through KZbin mindlessly and my Life completely changed. and Here I am 32,Off Meth,I'm a janitor at the YMCA,I'll be getting my apartment in 4 months,I Clean My Room,and keep it clean. Thank You So So Much Jordan B Peterson From the Bottom of My Heart,Mind and Soul.

[@A.Montgomery]

What a great teacher!

[@robertivey2398]

I am so grateful to be allowed to view these. I have a MA. a MS. and a PhD. I feel honestly I should go back to school and start all over !

[@anfrale4657]

i have 5 PhDs

[@zerik8979]

I love these online clear lectures, compared to the wannabe legendary motivational videos.

[@teerilla]

People talk often about privilege, but these lectures, along with many educational podcasts from the Peterson family are all free, and that alone is kind of priceless

[@Rawan-vg5eu]

Better than all of the lectures I had at Columbia, and I’m a psych student as well I had the same exact course about personality. Teaching quality was poor and lazy having students present the syllabus

[@Dabu-Dabu]

Effin brilliant, Doc !

[@jonathanm4508]

1:00:00 - agitation - confusion - threat circuits - not knowing what to do - chaos - approach behavior not always positive in valence.

[@dwilliams9801]

Fascinating info .. Thank you 🙏

[@yurigagarin1728]

Dr petersons explanation of the Apprehension of a reward being more powerful of an emotion than the actual acquisition of the reward reminds me of a fantastic quote from Mr. Spock ; "Having is not always as pleasurable a thing as Wanting". Maybe (in terms of life goals) it's actually important that the idea is more exciting than the completion, so that more goals are continually set. This is the Sisyphus journey he was talking about in this video but combine that with the dopaminurgic systems he explains in other videos and you have a reliable system to keep you on track. So how come people completing their goals constantly? I'm trying to get better at this but I let my hypothalamus dominate me through distractions all the time. Sometime I realise I'm doing it, most times I don't.

[@bobsmith-ov3kn]

When developing certain skills like competence at an instrument, which, depending on the instrument, is almost entirely done with your hands, I feel like the memory and general level of competence you develop is stored practically entirely in your distributed nervous system, in your spine mainly, and what part of it reaches into your arms. I know just from my own personal perception when playing. It really requires no level of thoughts in your head at all, you can run totally on autopilot, and it just comes through in your hands. There's nothing coming from your head, if anything it's coming from your spine and your whole body.

[@lcobb5214]

I hope the students that he was lecturing to at university appreciated that they were getting!👍😊

[@schluppben]

This articulation gesticulation combination is priceless. I find it incredible how much easier it is for me to understand the ideas he transmitts if he uses his body to communicate it as well!

[@florinamariutei2367]

Thank you

[@redrosin99]

"You are not thinking about walking, well, unless you are one of these people that can't walk and chew gum at the same time" can't stop laughing here Hahaha

[@T_1357_F]

Listening to Mr. Peterson makes me want to go back to school, but then I remember what final exams were like.. and that desire dies a quiet death.

[@sulamy1955]

It's crazy that a lecture with such a high intelectual level has 25 thousand views on KZbin. I wonder how many people watched it the whole way through

[@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1]

xZeno, I listen to these lectures whilst doing mindless chores but I always end up rewinding the video to catch something I missed

[@Milestonemonger]

xZeno I'm watching each and every lecture, interview and talk by JBP while I excersise. IT'S ADDICTING.

[@Milestonemonger]

GokuTheSuperSaiyanDemon Same here. I love it.

[@Fubuuuuu]

I watch all of the video

[@sjsblacksmith1693]

I listen to them while driving and working, and this is atleast the second or third time through this particular lecture. It's harder since I am normally a visual learner, and do better with the things I read. But I love the material so much, most of it sticks pretty good...

[@lildajao1]

Hi Jordan! Thank you for your great contribution for spreading knowledge! I am a psychology student from University of Oslo, and your lectures has been of great help regarding personality depth psychology. Is it possible for you to also put the litterature of the articles you discuss, in the description field? If not for future videos. Thank you in advance, and thank you for your courage in the discussion about masculinity/feminity in the public domain. all the best, Raymond

[@andrewnock2675]

"affective neuroscience" is very good, i feel like i have been looking for this book my entire life, thank you for the recommendation.

[@cesaralvesdemoraes3187]

thanks for the oportunity to have a full lecture of yours from the confort of our homes Professor Peterson

[@basspuff514]

You know something is seriously wrong when I end up procrastinating ap psychology homework to watch psychology lectures... lmao

[@abbamanic]

Genius of thought, inspiring. Best of all they make you think.

[@oa3015]

35:45 Jerry Fodor wrote an influential paper on this notion. It's called "Modularity of Mind", which basically argues that the mind is modular, where each module is informationally encapsulated.

[@dannywarnock8822]

Loved 'Stick of bread.' Lol. But JP is the man, on many levels.

[@omarmiz]

I wish that he gave examples for all the different psychological mechanisms he was trying to explain. Especially during the summary, it became really clear to me that I hadn't really gotten much from the lecture for precisely this reason.

[@wredmatic]

I think it'll come together better if you read the Swanson paper

[@diegonayalazo]

Thanks Dr.

[@charleswomack2166]

As a recovering addict/alcoholic, this makes perfect sense regarding the opiates. As a side note, on the children whom are not their own, about 90+% of children who are molested, the primary perpetrator of these crimes are stepdads! Luckily for me, my baby momma never remarried or even introduced her many partners to my daughters. Thank God.

[@bobbyjourdan2843]

Thank you .

[@cs-kd9tp]

I have 3 degrees and have never clapped for a professor. Just goes to show the respect that a thorough and talented teacher can inspire.

[@senata.s3034]

Yo this jordan guy is really good at psychology, he should try to teach people

[@randygraham7966]

Right I was thinking we should all get together and maybe comment on this

[@ZachJenkins]

What a legend

[@latinaalma1947]

Behavior chain....I had studied this in the 70s in 1980 I used it to quit smoking 3 packs of cigarettes per dayI realized the individual points in my day when I reached for a cigarette.AM coffee, put the key into the ignition of my car to go to work, Etc so I was going on a business trip,and thought THIS would be a gold time to break them chain and yes it WAS. QUit overthtripand never wanted another ome... worked for me!

[@angeliquecosta6046]

Excellent video. I love learning about motivation & reward systems. Thank you!

[@lindataylor6831]

Very interesting. Thank you.

[@burningheart2909]

Now THIS is higher learning! Thank you Mr. Peterson! 🤓