Jorge Masvidal vs Nate Diaz post-fight analysis and much more - Ask Me Anything 53- Coach Zahabi

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[@maxpain8569]

Great insights, Coach. Can't wait to see you back on the JRE podcast. Peace.

[@AkamapD]

Came for MMA contents.. end up with a history class.. not disappointed. Well done coach

[@kenknowles8209]

Congrats Coach, Kevin Lee looked tremendous.

[@bflo1000]

When I saw him fight Tony, I thought Kevin was one of the best LW. And then he had a bunch of losses. BTW, his fight w Al was very close. Al won the standup and Kevin won the grappling. The fact that Al came on strong (like he often does, like vs Masvidal) and Kevin faded the last round left a bad taste in people's mouth.

[@oksanagilroy1950]

@@bflo1000 him being delusional is what made everyone tired of him..he talks in every interview about the same 3 things,, kahbibs holes in his game,how he is different than khabibs oppents bcuz he can wrestle meanwhile he couldnt dominat tony ,al iaquinta or RDA..lee is a broken record then he clearly loses and sit on stool acting like hes been robbed..he will lose his next fight he got lucky he had a highlight ko if not he was cut off roster

[@goldeneyeforevercom]

Thank you so much for this Firas and thank you also for answering a couple of my questions. Very enlightening at the end of the video! It's not just fight talk and no question, you are a very bright guy. I'm glad to see 2,000+ in the live chat at one time. Congrats on that!

[@futfut-iw2fu]

Wow that ferguson vs masvidal fight would be out of this world

[@slimbrady6691]

Tony is too much.

[@treroney4720]

fut123 fut1234 I got masvidal by decision

[@Ash_Hudson]

I actually think Masvidal would have the advantage

[@alcottdevalte7440]

Tony vs Masvidal 2020, make it happen!!! Both have never been ko''d...

[@drake10X]

@@slimbrady6691 Idk man masvidal hits hard

[@gcoffey223]

Coach... all we care about are the holes you fixed in Kevin's game. I would have bet $1000 Gregor would destroy Lee. Glad I did not. Excellent work coach!!!!!

[@Dottor_J]

There are still a lot of unanswered questions regarding Kevin tbh

[@FraJa1980]

@@Dottor_J So.... your saying there are a lot of holes in his game?

[@dantdt4693]

FraJa1980 yeah what about his cardio has it improved ? Either way really happy for lee with his win

[@FraJa1980]

@@dantdt4693 Well it was a round 1 tko so i can't really say much about his cardio but yeah... i.m.o. he did improve and i hope he keeps this rolling because he's a very good fighter. What i said was a joke, he said he saw holes in khabib's game after he beat Barboza and ever since Lee seeing holes from everybody to the fence of the cage has become sort meme/joke.

[@paragon1782]

Calm down. One quick ko doesn't mean his striking has been fixed

[@danielm1429]

DEMIAN MAIA SAID THAT MASVIDAL HAS THE BEST BJJ THAT HE HAS FELT IN UFC.

[@lootador]

Did he really? He defended that rnc very good and looked prepared.

[@danielm1429]

@@lootador Yes. He really said it.

[@morpheus2270]

@@lootador yeah he said it in his post fight interview after he beat masvidal

[@mmasteak]

Caps off bro. Show some respect.

[@chopstik321]

Shouldn't that be Jake Shields the guy that beat him with mostly grappling?

[@30gunoaie]

Thank you, Firas! You are a treasure for this generation. I appreciate you very much.

[@MMAMG1]

As usual thank you for the content Coach! Much love!

[@hanosito]

love you coach , thanks for the amazing podcasts

[@frankiew1922]

So happy you’re coaching Kevin Lee. Hope that turns into something special

[@DickoWA2010]

Yes! So happy to hear about your news resolution coach..Thanks

[@johnry6086]

Congrats on your guy kevin lee executing your game plan. Excellent work my friend.

[@samsschool3639]

HELL YEAH COACH ZAHABI & WALKER

[@bobaleywine2938]

First time watching Zahabi on here ..it was great

[@VikingMuayThai]

“It is said the warrior's is the twofold Way of pen and sword, and he should have a taste for both Ways. Even if a man has no natural ability he can be a warrior by sticking assiduously to both divisions of the Way.” -M. Musashi

[@Shaka_Garami]

"I don't know what a white whale is" - N. Diaz

[@lootador]

@@Shaka_Garami😂😂👏

[@lutherblissett9070]

"Life's a rat race... And I ain't no rat. I'm a turtle, a ninja turtle. Michelangelo is my favorite, what's yours?" - T. Ferguson

[@AdnanKhan-jn8dz]

Once in a week or two I sleep for a bit long time and that is the only day coach has to do a live video😫😫

[@brianroach7479]

Hey Coach. Just got the new TimTam and used your code. For people ordering in Canada, the TriStar discount just covers the border duties. Was 44 bucks fees for me living in Toronto. The product is amazing. I went in on my upper shins, holy smokes. Lower back, calves and achilles, which I have almost completely snapped in two places. I used it when I wanted and didn't run out of power. I wish I had this a long time ago for use after various injuries. Keep it up, have a good one.

[@Cada.]

Been waiting for this...

[@vlada]

there's a lot of talk about Nate and how he was gonna "do what he does & turn it up in the later rounds" but I was listening to either Fitch or Josh Thompson say on podcast that Nate only went to championship rounds vs Benson and Conor. That's it. (checked it on sherdog) He's been a 3 rounder almost his whole career except 2 fights so it's safe to say this reputation of being a championship round fighter is grossly overstated, never mind that he lost those 2 fights and Bendo bullied him. Nate says he was "just getting started" and people take him at his word because we all think that this sounds right. Even though there is very little proof he's ever done it.

[@saltysax81]

So your saying, you don't believe Nate had the cardio to go 5 rounds with Masvidal ? Regardless of his official record. You can ask any fighter in MMA . His cardio is at the top of the game . Easily top 5 for cardio.. I don't think anyone involved in mma would say Nate doesn't have the cardio for 5 rounds, Even Firas's predictions for the fight . Was Masvidal early, Nate in the later rounds ..

[@emerestthisk990]

Exactly. The facts are that Nate has only ever won ONE 4th round his entire career. And that Jorge has amazing cardio, he could fight like that for 10 rounds. Nate had no chance whatsoever, the doctor saved him from a further beating

[@judasjunior6503]

Exactly! The problem is even with the internet people seem to be too dumb to look at the research for themselves and just up vote whatever seems popular😊👊👍

[@MarkWalmsley]

Exactly, people don't have a clue about the history of his career. They just heard a couple of things and they repeat it. They also don't know how good Masvidals cardio is.

[@stellablue3718]

The bottom line is he wasn't beating masvidal without a finish (that he wasn't going to get because masvidal was too prepared for him) regardless of how much he did in rounds 4 and 5 because he already lost the 1st 3 rounds definitively. So honestly, who gives a flying fuck about 2 more rounds? I get nate has fans who wanna see him preform no matter what, but he wasn't beating masvidal....I dont give a fuck how bad ass he is lol.

[@gabrieltribuzy4885]

Kevin was looking sharp in stand up! Congratulations coach

[@gandolf8637]

​FIRAS THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF KEVIN LEE HE IS A NEW FIGHTER NOW

[@DeezNuts43]

Love u brother. I can't wait to come to Montreal and meet u, God willing.

[@ivanraimi5524]

Congratulations Firas, Kevin Lee looked great

[@Strype13]

I love the fact that zombie movies are the only type of movie Firas enjoys, and he has no idea why. Nor do I have any idea why this makes me so happy.

[@jarrodlee1506]

Masvidal wasn't stopping.what a stone cold killer

[@rated21hbbhh]

very true, but let's be fair neither would nate. even if he was getting beat up, he was still slapping him at the end of round 3 telling him , what's up? just feel they should have let him atleast fight it out and show what he got. cuz say what you want but round 3 nate was looking better then the first 2 but yeah masvidal showed us something tho what a beast

[@bflo1000]

@@rated21hbbhh Those slaps from the bottom weren't doing any damage. Nate still had a lot left, but not enough to stop Jorge. I didn't even see him dominating or even winning the last 2 rounds.

[@rated21hbbhh]

@@bflo1000 i know they did no damage but it was to say that nate would not stop

[@bflo1000]

@@rated21hbbhh That's true. Nate is like a pit bull that's getting chewed up but doesn't mind it. In fact he turns and counters by looking to bite the other dog. With all the punishment to the body and the fact he couldn't see out of his eye...I doubt he would have enough left to stop or seriously hurt Jorge. He needs to give Jorge his credit for kicking his ass for 3 rounds as well as pointing out the fact that he was ready to turn up the pressure. Jorge would have lasted. He didn't take punishment to the body like Nate did.

[@rated21hbbhh]

@@bflo1000 true.

[@fvgc454ss]

It's not the blood from the cut in that case it's the severity of the cut. A few more elbows and his eyebrow was coming off. Regardless nate had no answers for masvidals speed power or clinch work.

[@leebrandon3842]

people are so biased when they talk about nate. i love nate he's one of my faves but he got destroyed with a one sided beat the breaks of someone. if it went on nate probably would of been finished. people when they love a fighter they can never be honest. all 3 judges had it 3-0 masvidal and 2 of the 3 judges gave masvidal a 10-8 first round. nated would of had to ko masvidal to win and there is no way masvidal was getting ko'd. he's never been ko'd in 18 ufc fights.

[@seanmulholland7597]

LEE BRANDON actually one judge has Nate winning all three rounds 30/27... Fucking insane right

[@lutherblissett9070]

@@seanmulholland7597 Probably the same one who scored it 30/27 for Gastellum. These judges that get it so badly wrong should never be trusted with anything more important than operating a TV remote control.

[@HbVki]

Sean Mulholland , are you fucking kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?! Where can i find that bullshit?

[@wagsbass]

Difference in skill level was too big, Nate was soundly beaten, no rematch necessary

[@AdnanKhan-jn8dz]

Ended on a great note coach/sir much respect after today's podcast love you coach♥️ In future if I migrate to Canada I'll be looking to train with you for sure ♥️

[@ericabinoha4223]

Good win no holes lee!!!

[@m4n1czg]

TriStar just got me as a subscriber because Connor could not go without raging on Twitter against Firas' well elaborated view on Conor VS Max 2. Lol.

[@gashhashie9266]

15:16 I believe its pronounced sen-pi Sensie is like your head coach Senpie are like assistant coachs iirc (unsure on spelling) Japanese terminology we used in karate.

[@JustMeELC]

I would love to see you work with Johnny Walker! I so hope this happens! He seems like a great, talented, & cheerful gentleman who could have an amazing future. Sorry I missed the live stream 😡 Oh & congrats on Kevin Lee gameplan & performance!

[@LiterallyRiggtarded]

Nah he is just intimidating and dangerous, but Walker is overrated and roided out

[@lootador]

Saw a dude on KZbin destroyin Jonny walker defensiv abilitys. And yeah, it seems totaly right! His foodwork looked bad. Corey read him very well

[@JustMeELC]

Garden Organic Except Firas just said he really is very talented, he'd love to work with him, & he thinks he could become a champion... I'll believe Coach Zahabi over you lol

[@JustMeELC]

Simon daerb Firas just said he really is very talented, he'd love to work with him, & he thinks he could become a champion... I chose to believe the experience & good eye of Coach Zahabi lol

[@Last_Chance.]

This aged well

[@smac919]

5:00 Tbh.. I feel like if Nate somehow started straight up washing Jorge away in the 4th and 5th, you would have an argument to give Nate Round 3, Nate did out strike Jorge in the 3rd, 57 to 38. I'm not saying Nate would have won.. I gave Nate about a 30% chance to win the fight if it went into the 4th & 5th as planned.. but that fight 10000% should have at least went on one more round. Big John more or less indirectly blamed Dan Miragliotta by saying the ref has the ability to stave off the doctor. John basically said if it was him, he would have pulled the doc aside and said, " If that cut gets any worse in any shape or form, I'll stop the fight and bring him to you. ".. I really wish we had Big John reffing that night. It would have been fitting too.. we needed a BMF Ref lol.

[@TrentWila]

Nate has to really work on his head movement from here on out of his career because he cuts so easily. He’s gotta keep his hands up from start to finish also to protect his face....all that fighting with your hands down tough guy stuff has to stop because his face won’t hold up like his heart and fighting spirit can.

[@stan2930]

Thats a good man!

[@englearning6947]

Cucuy vs Gamebred would be massive

[@SimoBudd]

What are your favorite forms of hiit training? snow outside cant run

[@walid9701]

definitely, agree with that 100% --> 17:55

[@sdad1016]

sallm coach , you went through some of detail which would be hard to pick on ,I believe nate has slowed down to what he was befor , maybe it the aging, but nate is a very durable fighter , only if he put some weight and fix he boxing strike , he has good reach for guys like masvidal , but at the end joge is a hard figher

[@LegacyEvoAce]

Nate was extremely unlikely to have made a comeback, to much damage and Mas was looking way to fresh. Lots of body work pays off in the later rounds. Mas came out looking crisp & smooth with a great game plan.

[@MrGB1999]

There is something to distance (ish) running.. It does wonders for overall cardio fitness, breathing that air into your lungs on (hopefully empty, no smog ) roads. But yeah HIIT will be better for muscle build / retention. Examples are all out there. Compare 100m sprinter to 1500m runner.

[@CompletePivot0302]

Anyone know where he talks about wonderboy if he does?

[@Ahmad.Raihan2.0]

Coach I am here in Belgium is there any Chance to train with you guys in life time

[@Luckycomet-ox2ir]

Coach do you think that the 77 day turn around w/cut played a role in Diaz's performance and susceptibility to cut due to the massive amount of scar tissue on his brows?

[@seanmulholland7597]

He was never Gonna Win.. PERIOD, 76 Days 400 Days he Cannot Stand Up With MASVIDALs Boxing Period, It’s Why he tryed To Take It To The Ground.. Some BMF.. He Gotta Overwhelmed , Over Matched And Over Worked

[@robertblake1228]

i thought tristar was in Canada...its not?

[@treroney4720]

Firas is the interim BMF champion

[@bflo1000]

Way to tell it just like it is, Firas.

[@imambluerings]

45:28 My question on using Elbow and Knee pads in MMA. Thanks for the answer Firas.

[@braydencp5334]

Firas "he says, look..." Zahabi

[@shrimuyopa8117]

I disagree with the idea of going to the cards after an eye poke because then if they think they are up they just poke them in the eye on purpose.

[@applegoeshollywood]

1:32:30 Where thr neck exercises start

[@huhhuhhuh4069]

Nobody should question the doctor's decision. Unless you are a doctor as well, standing right next to him and making the same medical evaluation.

[@MMAFightMagazine]

Is it possible that the question around 1:45:00 - "Coach, What do you think about Israel?" MAY have been referring to Adesanya?

[@buntbar2438]

Did Nate spit Masvidal in the eye about 23 seconds before the Fight endet? Or am I trippin? To me it looked like Nate layed back, came up again and spit a huge one in masvidals face. Masvidal like backed up behind Nates knee, kinda wiped his face, took a few, and then poundet him viciously. It looked as if he wanted to kill him. It's was right before the Bell. I watched it about 20 times. Thanks for the great contend Coach Firas! Edit: actually it's 25seconds not 23

[@karzan10]

Hey Coach. Having seen your kids in the video where they interview you and spend a day with you, I think your kids will be the future ufc champions!

[@flubbahlol]

Hey is there one time where you picked Mcgregor to win a fight ?

[@bekuzb1991]

TONY FERGUSON vs NATE DIAZ is the matchup!

[@TrentWila]

I think the best fight that can be made in that division is actually Masvidal vs Woodley. Two very athletic and well rounded fighters! I don’t think it would happen unless the money was un-turndownable lol since those two are respectable friends

[@Indanao1]

Masvidal vs Ferguson 1rst..

[@justbreathe8835]

Coach what if when he asked Your opinion on Isreal he was talking about Adesanya haha

[@cawbaird5711]

I believe Nate would have done much better keeping his range making it a boxing fight like you did Michael Johnson behind size 2020

[@jaekenzo64]

Man I love Firas! he is great!

[@Ahmad.Raihan2.0]

What about khabib Vs masvidal 165 But Tony first please

[@Im_matthew_alexander]

What clothing brand is he wearing?

[@Luckycomet-ox2ir]

Diaz likely does not dope, the body is natural but his cardio is awesome. Something that makes a difference in how his body could develop is that on top of his MMA training, he trains and competes in triathlons. While many of the same muscles are recruited it does not occur in the same way.

[@Zankaru]

@Tom Smith They have new, modern tests that catch EPO. If he was on it, he would get caught.

[@jamesallenyz431]

royce Gracie failed for steroids back when they barely tested and that guys body looked like a greeter at Wal Mart. epo testing is expensive and isn't used as often. (that's what they said when tj popped)

[@Luckycomet-ox2ir]

@Tom Smith If that is the case then he has been on EPO his entire career then. He and his brother do triathlons ex; 146miles of combined swimming, biking and running. That explains his cardio NOT EPO

[@Luckycomet-ox2ir]

​@Tom Smith I never said that PED's were not used in other sports. I just meant that their cardio does not only come from MMA training. As for being unaware or innocent, first I was an elite athlete and coach myself and am a neuro-endocrinologist who specializes in the effects of steroids on the brain and body. So blind I am not. Either way they are both excellent fighters.

[@ShinkaTV]

I did that "thumb choke" once by accident - my instructor had me in scarfhold and I was just trying to push him off of me (noob) and he passed out. We tried to duplicate it but didn't succeed. Someone called it a "red out" (shrugs). It was cool, though. Made me feel like I have super powers.

[@JayJay-jw6zf]

You are the one 'Ono' awaken your powers within

[@ShinkaTV]

@@JayJay-jw6zf haha, we shall see!

[@hia567]

On Diaz, keep in mind he came back too early (previous cut vs Pettis), and wasn't able to train the last 2 week due to a leg injury apparently. But Masvidal was just too quick and ferocious for him even if Diaz got that caveman's toughness.

[@elliottjames671]

Coach

[@benjaminellam7653]

Kevin lee for the kill /win 👍👌

[@MFBOOM100]

0:45 it starts

[@relaxbro5605]

If you rewatch it, the 3rd round in my humble opinion went to Nate though

[@pittsburghbob69]

Why wouldn’t you ask him about K.Lee, his actually fighter, rather than Masvidal/Diaz?? Or even ask about a GSP comeback??

[@George-xb5ey]

Gaethje vs Masvidal would be huge for a future BMF

[@damionstr1ke]

Scorecards because of the cut? Umm...in boxing they only do that if the cut comes from an accidental "ilegal" move like a headbutt. But Masvidal legitimately landed that elbow...which is not illegal in UFC.

[@wearelive503]

Hello sensei

[@Helios601]

Never go by physiques to judge whether someone is juicing, remember Royce got popped? The are are plenty examples of this.

[@bflo1000]

I LOVE Masvidal vs Robbie Lawler in his PRIME. Of course, Robbie has taken way too much damage over the years.

[@papi23333]

What did I ever do to deserve Firas videos in my life?

[@cndvd]

Nate would of won 4 and 5. Tri athlete would of turned it up. But that cut was too big. Good stoppage, yes everyone wants to see the finish, but not worth risking Nate getting his faced with a 5 inch gash. It could of ripped, it was already over 2 inches. This sets up Conor vs Jorge anyway.

[@kyartick8502]

I think having multiple championships won't make more champions. Usman or Colby will win all 3 and Khabib or tony will win all the lightweight ones. Max or the new Zealand guy for the feather weight one. Israel or yeol for the middleweight one. To think that 3 diffrent people will have the 3 belts is not right

[@akaram325]

IS THE EARLY PACE OF DIAZ BASED ON HIS JEOPARDIZED CARDIO AND TRYING TO SAVE ENERGY FOR ROUND 4&5 ?

[@jcreative3815]

akaram325 Diaz never finished anyone in the 4th or 5th.. even if he won those 2 he would have lost the decision.

[@akaram325]

J Creative true but Masvidal has only had 1 5 round fight and he lost that one after slowing in the later rounds. Nate was pretty battered but I still say there’s a chance he coulda poured it on for 4 and 5. Hopefully they rematch and we get to see how it plays out.

[@honestabe6841]

Would love to see Masvidal vs Khabib... I see khabib tapping him out in 3 or 4 rounds but Masvidal definitely clipping him a lot. Maybe even giving Khabib the best fight he has ever had. If you do not have a wrestling background, there is no way you can beat Khabib. However if you are a good striker like Masvidal you can at least make Khabib finally hurt for once.

[@Aqhi007]

Mashallah

[@jabipunk21]

CONOR VS MASVIDAL!!! If conor can beat jorge, he can take that belt and defend it against any fucking one. The opportunity is reallll take it CONOR!!!

[@LRG53]

@1:22:23

[@RjEatsDogs]

Throw back to when Thompson dominated masvidal

[@divyjain123456]

Was a boring fight though

[@mahbubnoor4846]

it wasn't Nate's night. doesn't mean it will happen all the time. masvidal has lost many times before. nate outclassed pettis before. nate has so much scar tissue and he bleeds easily and bleeds like a pig. he has been split open in the last couple of times. nate seriously needs to fix and heal his face: he also needs to take a break and heal his body. he needs to go back and analyse his fights with his couches and come in well-prepared. masvidal came in prepared and knew how to beat Nate. masvidal stopped nate in the clinch. nates hand and wrist control is among the best: but masvidal knew how to neutrilise it

[@slimthug166]

This dudes voice is what I imagine Buddha would have sounded like

[@neonhavok]

Fahras is a low keye marine 😅😅 "KILL, KILL, KILL" #marinemindset

[@madikacorvinus4851]

"What do you think about Israel?", I think the guy wanted to know what you think about Israel Adesanya as a fighter, not Israel as a country. But great info on the history of Muslims and Jews.

[@jamesallenyz431]

i think Tony would beat conor in a mma match with both guys using just hands

[@JonasUllenius]

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[@JonasUllenius]

Firas is one of the great. His historic great grandparents are proud and looking down and being thankful.

[@TurntBucket]

i think nate being dismiss of the doctor couldn't help either. The doc is just a human too and they can be biased. If you act like "stfu i can fight, i dont need you looking at me (attitude not necessarily words)" then that cannot help the docs decision.

[@dianeaustin2414]

Huh????

[@TurntBucket]

@@dianeaustin2414 watch the fight again. The doc is trying to look at him and talk to him and he walks away and points towards the middle of the ring saying that he's ready to fight and doesn't need to be looked at or talked to. The doc could easily feel disrespected by this

[@TurntBucket]

sam harris doesnt only criticize islam. he criticizes all religions.

[@GhostRider-xo2hy]

First time here and when someone asked coach “what you think about Israel” I thought the coach is about to answer what he thinks about Adesanya, can someone answer me why we care about the country Israel on this channel?

[@shadowthefirst5115]

Yo

[@coldcoldrain13]

Canelo is a different animal than Mayweather. He would straight up murder Jorge.

[@heavypunches]

Masvidal is a different animal then connor too

[@treroney4720]

Ionn Blignault masvidal doesn’t make it out of the second with canelo

[@treroney4720]

coldcoldrain13 canelo also has a deep level of distain for mma vs boxing fights.

[@naseeem1999]

J Canelo would fuck Masvidal up in boxing, period.

[@sahilrana5177]

@Ionn Blignault not in striking brother They are another on another level of boxing Masvidal will beat Canelo in strait up striking.

[@rocklee5231]

I dont think Sam has ever said that all middle eastern people are ISIS. His criticism, as I understand it, is that a literal interpretation of the text leads to something similar to ISIS. He levies the same criticism against almost all religions. Additionally, reliance on an elite group to tell the absolute, and simultaneously transient, truth about an issue that goes against the evidence a person has compiled on their own is more or less an appeal to authority, wouldn't you say?

[@JOEY_TREN]

Saying that Orthodox Islam is the same as isis is completely wrong. Appealing to authority or not our scholars were warning against the isis and they're like since the early 80s when shaykh muqbil warned ppl from following bin laden and told him to repent.

[@JOEY_TREN]

Also there is no literal interpretation of the text you have to use the Sunnah and how the earliest generations of Islam understood it to understand the Quran and Hadith when you find ambiguity

[@rocklee5231]

@@JOEY_TREN It is possible to arrive at the right conclusion with faulty reasoning, and vice versa.

[@rocklee5231]

@@JOEY_TREN Idk enough to comment on that.

[@JOEY_TREN]

@@rocklee5231sorry are you saying perhaps Sam harris' rational wasn't sound but his conclusion could be correct ? That a fundamental Orthodox Islam is like that of isis' Islam ? One quick example: isis believes you can kill non combatants in non Muslim countries because they pick the leaders who enact foreign policy which harms Muslim. This is in stark contradiction to numerous ahadith(i.e. the Sunnah) which explicitly say you cannot kill civilians. There's much more isis interpretation of text which is not in line with the interpretation of the first three generations of Islam which Muslims have been commanded to follow.

[@seanmulholland7597]

Well if you Can see the bone, It’s Infection and also your Eye can fall Out..