Joseline speaks on her black Identity and calls Amber Rose A ‘Karen' who doesn't want to be black!

[@Lovelyti_TV]

alot of ya'll have wanted me to speak on Joseline's current drama so here is the full breakdown of the drama To support please go to Lovelytea.net or cash app: $lovelytitv thanks in advance

[@stasiagoro8720]

Hope you’re enjoying your Sunday Ti! Happy to finally have Summer here in WA state. It’s been raining non stop

[@natashamjohnson8335]

Thank you Ti for this mini deep dive my mother-in-law is Creo but she consider herself black and she's from Louisiana

[@MsHoneybabe2025]

Yeah, a lot of black people are double kin making them seem lighter when their aunts and uncles are all black, once may have just slept with a cousin or something. But in Joseline's case Im glad you made all the point you did.

[@Racism-n3j]

Aye Ti I have a topic. Ecto Life labs. What do you think about them

[@chaneltendre3493]

No white person mistakes Amber for a white woman. She hasn’t been able to prosper outside of black culture. Or detach from it and be A list woman that every white man and anybody else wants. Or that non melanated children want to be. The only reason she’s relevant is because of her attaching herself to black men that she feels are less than her.

[@lynnmarie6365]

Joesline only claims her “blackness” to justify her disrespect towards black women on her show. She started claiming her blackness after the backlash of the last season.

[@hao9508]

Facts.

[@AngeBiampandou]

Joselyn is black regardless. Two black parents=black

[@CriolladeNegress]

Exactly, the same with Natalie’s crimson chin ass.

[@nopeninja9765]

Yup. She ALWAYS identified as the Puerto Rican princess. You use to thrive off of being a spicy Latina until recently.

[@DR19346]

PERIOD! For the first 10 years she was puerto rican. not once did I hear black. now we have people like evelyn lozado claiming to be black as well. ridiculous.

[@frieda8956]

She’s not afro latina because “ she does not have an afro “ is this a joke ?!!!!!

[@maryjflanagan1922]

I agree with and understand Joseline’s viewpoint.

[@autumnjade815]

So ignorant 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@ara3220]

She wants amber to claim her roots but won’t claim her Spanish roots 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@dreamlovermimi9458]

Joseline is the joke

[@daliapineda2788]

Girl… I said the same thing.. what????

[@shhhperry9852]

How you trying to fight someone for refusing to claim black, then get arrested and check the white box yourself.

[@NalaAmari]

🤦🏾‍♀️ See that’s that mess right there.

[@TanisC]

THANK YOUUUUUUU!!! She is a straight hypocrite. Add this to another reason why I can's stand her!

[@Chrysyyyy]

& everybody be eating Joseline words right on up.

[@Aaliyahbaby19]

Geeshhhhh 💯🤣😭😭😭

[@traceydean2803]

It’s the coke talking. She makes no sense

[@ebonih7138]

The obsession Joseline has with people she don’t like is weird

[@blaquespan5316]

Very

[@AllAmericanBabe]

Do you think it’s on purpose for ratings?

[@blaquespan5316]

@@AllAmericanBabe maybe but it’s still weird

[@kyclaus7157]

It’s serial killer’ish.

[@Gothboy95]

Why is she even famous bro all she does is portray other black women horribly and keep up the stereotype. Like fck her

[@itshrg2480]

I never considered Amber to be blk.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Me neither.

[@sexychocolategoddess2821]

And its extremely weird that that black people have been calling her black like they dont know what black looks like. This is sad

[@norah4892]

Amber said herself that she doesn't identify as black, that she is mixed.

[@destinixshakur]

Ever lol

[@emanualcarr7408]

What about Albino Blacks? How do they fit into the race equasion?

[@brandypeay5350]

I’ve heard Joseline call herself mixed, she’s never claimed ALL black until recently

[@Circee11]

They're suddenly 'black' when they act ratchet and want support 🙄

[@chocha4438]

That’s a lie. She’s always claimed being black/ Afro Latina. And even if she did call herself mixed, is it a lie?

[@Lovelyti_TV]

even when she was arguing with amber she kept saying she was mixed ☕🙄

[@atlanticc9181]

​@@Lovelyti_TVexactly. She said "you're mixed like me"

[@tiaplaya3508]

💯💯💯💯

[@mickkyb]

I’ll never understand the anger behind a biracial person not identifying as Black. Let them be who they are which is half (or less than half) Black.

[@ashsworld3506]

It should be required for everyone to take a class on race, ethnicity and nationality.

[@NoName-mc7wd]

No need for a class on a societal construct that was manufactured by racists. "Black" is a byword the Bible prophesied African tribal people would BE REDUCED to because of our disobedience and disloyalty to the Most High. Humans are from TRIBES, not "races". This being said and using today's racial classifications, race is what it is, but there is no reason to mandatorily "teach" a social construct. If you have two Black parents, you are Black; if you don't, you are not Black.

[@theoldschooldiva374]

I totally agree, it IS needed!

[@theoldschooldiva374]

​@@NoName-mc7wdreread what she wrote

[@acenewb1e]

Facts bc Joseline saying she is Latin (Ethnicity) and Black (Race) are two different things, and she is not wrong on either

[@zitalit6924]

It's gonna shock the whole world who really created the racial divide,............ Europeans just gave it a name and Black people worldwide suffered from it's invention

[@kamrynherring1048]

Black people are Black, White people are White, Asian people are Asian, Hispanic people are Hispanic, and Guess what? Mixed people are Mixed. I don't understand the obsession with wanting Mixed people to identity as Black & Black only. No, they're mixed. It's okay to be whatever you are, period. Thanks for this Video T. ❤

[@Kidswithoutborders]

Hispanic people, or people just from Mexico, any race can be Mexican. Latino and Hispanic or not race is there ethnicities any race can be them. There are Latino Asian

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Afro latino people ultimately descend from the same people that u.s. Blacks descend from. However, in context, lineage & ancestry comes via the father.

[@kamrynherring1048]

@@Kidswithoutborders Thanks for that info🙏🏾❤️, I was speaking on Biracial people lol and how if someone is mixed with Black & White, Society just wants them to be Black & Black only.

[@giovannanicolas8299]

@kamrynherring1048 thank you

[@suejam5419]

This!!! For years Latinos did not claim to bo black. Now all of a sudden they want to say they are black too. No, you are afro latino or latino.

[@Tootiexx]

I think its weird to make someone choose one side. They are MIXED smh

[@latoya5281]

Right?! Exactly 💯

[@jiolion-zion9716]

I don't see anything wrong with her saying she's mixed,as she's telling the truth ,and Ti's right. She wouldn't be able to infiltrate black culture if she wasn't invited in. Joseline is just finding problems to have. Let the woman be mixed in peace.

[@tiasway]

Again I think it's more of the fact that Amber has always for the most part dismissed her blackness and or seemed very uncomfortable whenever it comes to mentioning black women and her identifying with them at all seems like she tries to avoid that at all costs

[@hao9508]

​@@tiaswaysuch a reach --'

[@tiasway]

@@hao9508 🥴

[@tommesiacooper1258]

@@tiaswayher mother is barely black what part does she need to like 😂 she is more white than anything.🤦🏾‍♀️

[@msblackcherry09]

Well Amber isn't black, she's mixed. And Afro Latina doesn't mean you have an afro.🤦🏾‍♀️ She really thought she said something.

[@_haitian_barbie_]

lol right!!

[@jessicasalgado5570]

Afro Latina means being of African and Latin American descent. Smfh!🤦‍♀️

[@msblackcherry09]

@@jessicasalgado5570 I'm aware of what it means. It clearly doesn't mean you have an afro as she said

[@jessicasalgado5570]

@@msblackcherry09 I know, she made herself sound ignorant af saying that.

[@msblackcherry09]

@@jessicasalgado5570 that part 🤣 but hey she's pretty right 🤣🤣

[@Glassessss]

Joselyn antagonized that situation however Amber shouldn't have put her hands on her. In either case none of them are victims.

[@bxnycrampage]

Well joseline was acting like a bully and amber stood for her self

[@Glassessss]

@@bxnycrampage Standing up for yourself is matching what you're getting. No matter what Joselyn verbally said, Amber had no right to touch her. That's stuff you'd expect out of kids who normally lack emotional control, not full grown adults. Don't get me wrong, Joselyn is scum, however she has a right to her opinion.

[@sexychocolategoddess2821]

Why is Amber at an HBCU to begin with? Those schools are for African Americans whose ancestors sat through segregation.

[@sheenahines4714]

Amber doesn't get a "FREE PASS" she was dead wrong for putting her hands on Joseline. Amber comes off like she disregards her "BLACK" heritage. Watch some of her previous interviews in the past years.

[@blessedam1210]

That’s usually what Narcissists do!

[@autumnjade815]

A black person has TWO BLACK PARENTS.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Or at minimum, a Black father.

[@autumnjade815]

@@melvinhhcp3615 No that’s our problem is people who think like you. Two black parents make a black person PERIOD.

[@tee136]

BOOM 🎉

[@bribro23]

@@melvinhhcp3615no that would make them mixed…. Stop ignoring the other side of the parents.

[@chocha4438]

@@melvinhhcp3615Um, no…

[@shon7425]

Why do they keep giving her a platform to once again act a fool is beyond me

[@Mounthimkitty]

Ratings. Let's not act like people aren't tuned in...after all you're here.

[@I_am_milan]

💰💰💰

[@VeryKinkyCurl]

Because ppl watch this bs.

[@jord_yy]

people eat it up still, unfortunately

[@rashekachristian8798]

Because the media has an agenda

[@kiki1573]

If Joseline was a chocolate brown girl, she wouldn't have had the longevity on TV that Joseline has. She embodies the negativity associated with black women, and she gets a check while doing it.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Ironically, a chocolate brown girl (Mona Scott Young) is the mother of all of the fckery that we see on reality tv. Love & Hip-Hop was her idea. She's a Haitian Black woman misappropriating, mass producing, mass distributing, and mass perpetrating negative images of perceived u.s. Black women. For this reason, I never liked that show. I always hated it. 💯

[@djames9695]

Catch me outside benefited in the same way…

[@MsJonessss]

Exactly, you never see lupita or Jodie smith in no mess like this.

[@ASMRLookListenFeel]

A lot of people don’t want to be black they just want the fun cultural parts but not the stigma of being black

[@tikaroxanne7286]

🎯

[@HeyDrJen84]

This!!!

[@al25354]

Who wants the stigma of anything 😐

[@evelynwalker6670]

Exactly

[@erikarichardson4267]

Chile if biracial people don’t wanna be Black that has nothing to do with me and my Black mama or my Black daddy lol. The struggle of being both races (regardless of what both maybe) is an experience unique to biracial folks and we need to give them space to work through that experience. It’s not a BLACK EXPERIENCE tho.

[@catieq5270]

I’m biracial (black mom and white father) I would never say that my experience is the same as my black and brown sisters because it’s not. I’m very proud of my black heritage but let’s not act like mixed people like myself shouldn’t be classified as just that, biracial. But if I did have to choose which I identify more with, I’m picking black.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

That's cultural identity, same as Lauren London. Your white ancestry is what it is tho...

[@BeenieBaby-cz3gh]

We're do you live? Here in the Midwest all black people get treated the same lol

[@catieq5270]

@@melvinhhcp3615 lol no it’s not. That’s not how genetics works. Now if you mean surname then sure but that’s patriarchy and nothing to ancestry.

[@africanrumpunch7742]

@@BeenieBaby-cz3gh Chiiiile. Worldwide Black people are the underclass and treated as such. WORLDWIDE. In 2023, we're not believing that natrative anymore.

[@Mish2Legit]

Do you look more black or white? Because in reality you are what your Father is

[@jrenee8303]

What is wrong with being biracial?? I’m about to have a baby girl (39 weeks) with my husband who is white. It be an insult to my husband and his lineage and ancestors to say that our daughter is black and not biracial. It’s weird to me.

[@yo-a]

I think that’s a USA thing to be honest. Most countries recognise mixed race people as mixed race.

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Lineage & ancestry passes via the father. In context, your daughter is white. Also keep in mind, white people in general for several centuries have gone to great measures to separate themselves from Black people, legally, socioeconomically, or otherwise.

[@jennyferons1807]

Congratulations💗💓💞💕

[@angelm2755]

@@melvinhhcp3615 says who? your lineage is passed from BOTH parents? TF

[@DG-si2vp]

Congratulations on your pregnancy! May your family be blessed

[@melindajones3218]

I think joseline started related to being black once she had Bonnie. It was a wake up call for her

[@Kariberri208]

I agree.

[@Lovelyti_TV]

facts cus her daughter looks full black, and has the same kinky hair that she was making fun of, she thought her mix p.r. features would come throughn her child, and it didn't. so now she's "pro-black woman"

[@Dominican1923]

​@@Lovelyti_TVare you aware that there's UNAMBIGUOUSLY BLACK PUERTO RICANS 🇵🇷????? Have you been to Puerto Rico 🇵🇷????

[@Dominican1923]

​@@Lovelyti_TV "her daughters looks full black" millions of Hispanic people look full black.......... because it's not a race

[@muzo]

Referring to her mum’s 🐱 as big old black🐱 is kinda weird and disrespectful .

[@melvinhhcp3615]

I agree

[@commentpoliceofficer7991]

Exactly. I would never describe my mom in that way but I guess 😂

[@riley3543]

I cracked up at that

[@IslandVibez_Virgo]

I watched the college hill episode, all Amber was trying to assert was that she was a bi-racial woman not a Black woman, which is genotypically correct! Stop forcing the black identity on bi-racials! They have their own category on the census for a reason! 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@batriciaparker]

Not the census 😂😂😂

[@sexychocolategoddess2821]

They need their own category for EVERYTHING because im sick and tried of erasure in hollywood and all of black female roles going to biracial women. They cant occupy our spaces and theirs too. That is extremely problematic and unfair to black women

[@destinixshakur]

Right

[@IslandVibez_Virgo]

@@batriciaparker But not even just the census, on every form from the DMV to a job application has a box for “Two or More Races”. Let those ppl live their life, they have their own unique experiences growing up with parents from different races & not looking like either one. Why are we fighting them to claim an identity they don’t fully identify with?? 🙄

[@se2664]

Period

[@diandrawilliams1444]

The problem I have with Amber is, she has received all the benefits of being a black women in our spaces but want to distance herself as mixed women when she feels fit . The moral of the story is, we need to gatekeeper who we allow to take from the culture.

[@danikiaettson7876]

Exactly!

[@gerryo25]

That's very true. You want the benefits but want to distance yourself.

[@Kat3369]

This is why we need to gatekeep

[@DrKoko90]

How does she “want to distance herself” when she is only stating what she is (mixed)? 😅

[@shayharris61]

Exactly these women want to Black when it’s convenient!!! Both of them have identity issues!!!

[@itzellopezcortes6396]

She was wearing the right makeup for this scene🤡

[@dreamlovermimi9458]

Reminds me of the Simpsons SideShow Bob vs Krusty the Clown 🥊

[@jonesbunny]

😂😂😂

[@norah4892]

😂😂😂

[@LizNeptune]

I'm biracial, the severe discomfort I felt watching this confrontation... its a LEGIT FEAR and has happened to me before. The "you think you're white! You're not white, you're black!" accusation by another black person. Accusing you of self-hatred, racism, white supremacy, wanting/wishing you were white pretty much... when it's like, NO! Wtf. Just because you acknowledge you're mixed. You go your entire life with people asking you your race and ethnicity upon meeting, it is NORMAL and NATURAL and the only CONCLUSION that you can come to, when you realize, "people cannot pinpoint my race/ethnicity. That must mean that I look ambiguous." I'm certain that unambiguous black people AND white people, East Asians, South Asians, (unambiguous is the KEY word here) do not get asked the "what are you?" question as much as mixed race people. It's like beat into your head since childhood that you are mixed from being asked by every single person you meet, strangers. I have experimented many times just saying "black" and no one ever takes that for an answer. It's always, "but what else? What else? You're not Domincan/Puerto Rican/something else?"

[@tylerhackner9731]

Fellow biracial and you summed up my thoughts

[@yafriendsfriend]

Most people always think im hispanic until they send spanish speaking customers my way and found out i dont speak spanish 😂

[@LizNeptune]

@@yafriendsfriend that has been my whole life! And now I live in South Florida and I feel embarrassed that I don’t know Spanish by now 😂😂

[@yafriendsfriend]

@@LizNeptune maybe we should check off "hispanic/latino" 🤣

[@aliceinganjaland]

This!!!

[@FreedomWriter3]

Amber said she doesn't feel accepted in black spaces. How? Black people have been supporting her career since she got with Kanye? She reaped the benefits of being in black spaces, but now she wants to detach herself. Also, the term "Afro-Latina" has nothing to do with a hair type. It means having mixed African and Latin ancestry. Idk what Joseline is talking about.

[@imnojoke1945]

Facts!

[@tinag.7256]

I don’t think Joseline even knows what she’s talking about

[@mariastewart8810]

Ignorance is not always bliss and when Joseline said that those people in the room should have schooled her about that foolywang statement she made

[@amileaminute3615]

I wish we as the black community would honestly delineate more. I'm an African American woman and it irks my nerve when specific people want to claim their blackness when it benefits them or when they want to grift. They may both be black but they are not AA and we need to stop giving privileges and speaking opportunities to people who don't have the pedigree. It ain't the same. SN: African American is an ethnicity of African descent. Many black people in America with generations of family here are descendants of slaves. Usually a person is considered AA when you have two black parents.I know on both parents side to like my great grand parents, they were wholly black (no mixing). Its really sad because it gets really complicated the farther you go back because Slave owners gave two shits about keeping families and tribes during the auction block sale. Often they would mix different African tribes on plantations to create confusion amongst languages. I wish I can pinpoint distinctly where and who. Many of you Africans are blessed.

[@ltetobago]

Can I ask if you're from Africa?

[@yanalicious87]

100%

[@matxalenc8410]

Don't forget, people are African American when they're doing degenerate ish!

[@AllSeasonBodyFD]

💯

[@Alicatnoscaredycat]

Agreed

[@Oldisnew2me]

Amber rose does not look black at all. I’m tired of people trying to claim non-Black people is black specially when they don’t want to be black, but they just want to make money off of what we do being black is a privilege.

[@takarajohnson90]

Why everybody always kissing joseline ass her behavior needs consequences 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@melvinhhcp3615]

Have you ever been around Joseline in person? I have. Even as a man, I know for sure she wouldn't be an easy target for the average woman to get in a physical fight with. She always in great shape & she stays ready for whatever at any given moment.

[@shaesdivinetarot]

@@melvinhhcp3615who cares? Not everybody is scared of her and not one human on this earth cant get told theyre wrong. Somebody can always be bigger than you

[@melvinhhcp3615]

@@shaesdivinetarot I agree. I have yet to see her challenged tho.

[@FlyyGirl1000]

The ruthless will always prosper in this world .

[@NetSunJin]

My thing is this. Everybody wants a piece of the black woman identity without respecting them. No thank you ma’am. I don’t care what you claim to be, I’m not forcing anybody to identify as a black woman either because it’s no skin off of my nose, and has nothing to do with me, my experience, my identity. Black women are queens. The ones who are supposed to be at the table, are at the table. The girls who know, know. The girls who get it, get it. We are lit. We are the blueprint and we don’t have to be inclusive. The rest of this is just chatter and noise and honestly a cry for attention. It’s stops when you ignore ignorant people like this. Don’t argue with idiots. They soon reveal themselves by just opening their mouths

[@cassiephillips859]

Rite

[@shiningstarrstar5156]

I couldn't have expressed or said this better @NetSunJin...you are absolutely politically correct and those are facts.

[@maggiebrooks2550]

Absolutely 💯💯💯

[@dspenderella9671]

All facts💯

[@dspenderella9671]

All facts💯

[@I_am_milan]

I don't care if Amber doesn't want to be Black. I don't claim her anyways.

[@chequemate449]

She's white morroccan

[@Kay417]

​@@javiruiz8365we dont

[@miyahsmith2419]

@@javiruiz8365 there's nothing wrong with Megan markel

[@sexychocolategoddess2821]

​@@miyahsmith2419she's not black

[@daniyahwebb354]

​@@sexychocolategoddess2821she half of us . Megan Markle mother is FBA.

[@CityBluee]

Puerto rican is a nationality not a race 🤦🏾‍♀️ there's white Ricans and black Ricans. Comprehension is important

[@betrayedbaeuchiha175]

Nationality: country you were born at Ethnicity: cultural ethnic group you are part of or identity with Race: your racial makeup My Nationality is Dominican Ethnicity is latino Race is Multiracia/mix (I look like a typical latino)

[@siantelove]

DJ Envy needs to read this😂

[@bribro23]

Honestly race is just how you look visually..you can be black but racially be white. Which is how many black ppl were able to get away with “white passing”

[@blaquespan5316]

She is a euro Latina and Amber is a European we have seen both of their parents in the past. They are not biracial. I have no indigenous lineage.

[@betrayedbaeuchiha175]

@@bribro23 I agree with this. I believe that if you get a DNA test and if one of the races listed in your composition is at least 70% then you can identify as said race, phenotypically you’ll look like that race anyway. The highest I have is white with 49% which is not even close to 70%. 38% black and the rest is Native and Middle eastern, that’s why I look the way I look, I can’t be put on a specific “race box”

[@lennaedaley8676]

But the issue is on most forms don't have an option for mixed. You from a very young age (school forms/testing) you have to choose one

[@Tee_God]

'When i was growing up i chose to be black..' Girl, sorry what? 🤦🏾‍♀️ She thought she said something

[@ValerieJermon-cd2ps]

😂

[@KayBeOnline]

I'm like girl 🙃.... you ain't have to choose.... you was and is black 😂

[@Tee_God]

@anointedlife145 exactly - and she was quick to make sure not to 'choose' that afro though 🙃😮‍💨😒

[@ValerieJermon-cd2ps]

@jonelrobinson5189 😂

[@ValerieJermon-cd2ps]

@@Tee_God Yess😂

[@Blackmind182]

I’m not sure who filled out Joseline’s arrest report from this last incident but the one I saw had her race down as “white” 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@blaquespan5316]

Ok i thought I was tripping…

[@thecoolpanda.]

Whaaaatt?

[@letgomyego]

Yeah she told them she was white and told the world when the camera is on that she is black to keep her narrative going and continue to garner support from other degenerate black people. Behind closed doors she’s an arrogant white/mixed Puerto Rican who thinks she’s better than black people. Quiet as it’s kept Puerto Ricans are some of the most racist colorist group of people on the Planet

[@beebalay]

People that are mixed should be proud of where they come from. If you identify more with one side, that's fine but don't be ashamed of your full identity.

[@queenzentertainmentinc.6338]

In my opinion Joseline thinks she’s better than everybody regardless of color 😂 I never felt it was due to race 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@AllAmericanBabe]

Facts that’s why I fw her lol

[@RamboQuellz]

No it was due to race she felt like she better than a lot of the other black cast members of lhh bc she was the "Puerto Rican princess" and felt like that made her more desirable to the black man she was with at the time

[@FlyyGirl1000]

Yea she’s very conceited. One of those typical proud latinas

[@onnie.6815]

It’s the coke

[@howso5079]

I really appreciate Amber Rose for being honest about who she is.

[@Aries16603]

Joseline calls herself black because “Afro-Latina” is now a thing. If it wasn’t a thing before, she wouldn’t call herself black. As far as Amber Rose, she is a mixed woman and she should be able to be identity as such. She is mixed and mixed people need to have their own identify. They are not black.

[@dorianneutral1787]

It's beens a thing

[@Aries16603]

@@dorianneutral1787 since when?

[@sethaguilar8330]

​@@Aries16603the 1800s

[@Aries16603]

@@sethaguilar8330who said that?

[@Dominican1923]

​@@Aries16603look up transatlantic slave trade

[@theresehorvath6264]

You’re always on point. I have nvr heard Joseline say she was a black woman until this yr. She’s always emphasized being the PR Princess

[@Dominican1923]

There's BLACK PUERTO RICANS 🇵🇷......... that's like an American black women saying im an American princess it doesn't negate her blackness

[@shakiyagotdreams2299]

Joseline is nuts. I kind of like it😂😅 she right about the ethnicity. I also see your point Ti. Joseline was throwing that Puerto Rican in the air like crazy and blk men fell for it

[@shayaustin8106]

Joseline act like her saying she’s a black person is a gift to blacks....... now that’s weird to me!

[@ShayP76]

Thank you Ti! THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I can always count on you seeing things from a broader perspective regardless! Joséline wasn’t all the way wrong in terms of disguising culture, race, and ethnicity but this was a case where it’s right message wrong messenger. And she gets a kick out of antagonizing people and then like to play the victim.

[@ShayP76]

I meant distinguishing. Darn autocorrect.

[@truthseeker4460]

I agree 1000% Ti. Jose line is probably low key jealous she can’t pass 😂

[@jnaybillingsley2102]

I agree with you

[@ladonnapierson7703]

This is why I love LovelyTi she educates us ❤

[@sorenadix6411]

Do biracials have to "pick a side," or is it more important in our society for them to "act" more stereotypically as one race versus another, in order for us to feel comfortable identifying who We think they appear to be?

[@mmoves4603]

Im African American/La creole and afro Latino. You don’t have to have an Afro to be afro Latino. That was ignorant on joseline’s part. Amber rose isn’t black in my eyes. She’s mixed. To agree with you colorism & texturism is strong in Louisiana. Ppl often confused hispanic as a race. It’s not a race. It’s an ethnicity. Hispanics come in many races. Most African Americans aren’t even full black. I

[@sexychocolategoddess2821]

Yes you do. Black women have afros. Not having one likely means you have non black in your dna.

[@dcc-randomstorieswithmel7424]

Amen sis,amen

[@piecesoflyric5945]

“MOST AA aren’t even full black” everyone literally everywhere from anywhere isn’t FULL anything. That was and will never be the point.

[@amethystjess18]

What is Joseline talking about. Her own driver's license literally has WHITE from what was shown on her arrests. Let this ignorant mess go!

[@ChocoBeauty8]

The gag is that a lot of immigrants claim white when they come to the US to live

[@ZayPacaso]

Clearly she lied Joseline is a black pr women !

[@nopeninja9765]

That part about Cape Verdean was interesting because Superhead is Cape Verdean and she said she doesn’t see herself as black.

[@Brandy_j5]

Bless your heart Ti for breaking everything down. I know it was a lot of work. As a person who is studying to become a Spanish professor, visit Colombia frequently and looking to relocate there I completely understand Afro Latino culture. Many African Americans don’t understand Afro Latinos and neither do some latinos. I got tired of trying to explaining it to people. 😅. If someone is not open to learning, I let them live in there own ignorance.

[@AfroLatinasUnited]

Well the piece about Cabo Verde wasn't accurate at all, not everything is to be viewed through an Black American lens

[@neishamonee619]

Joséline has called herself the Puerto Rican Princess 🙄🙄🙄 Her attacking Amber seems more like a projection that maybe Joséline feels.

[@planetjoi]

💯

[@darrylbrimidge7171]

This finally someone said it

[@CityBluee]

That's a nationality not a race 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@nattiperez8981]

but that is her nationality, what is the problem.

[@zahreea9593]

Girl you know thats a nationality right…

[@RamboQuellz]

Problem is Joseline feel like she can say whatever she wants to people and ain't nobody supposed to turn up on her. She done got too use them lhh security guards being in the room.

[@phillip1516]

Neither one of them are black. Their primary audience is…. Including Me😂😂 Although entertaining, let’s not associate distinction with black

[@VeryKinkyCurl]

How Joseline not black? Truly asking because I see Afro Latina. I never seen her parents though.

[@bribro23]

@@VeryKinkyCurlshe’s mixed, not black… & having black ancestors doesn’t make you black today….. just like how many white pll have black ancestors or lineage but they aren’t black today

[@dydy6290]

@@bribro23both her parents are black, she’s black

[@gabbycarter965]

Shouldn't be no different than a Black person speaking English. You are still a Black person, who just happens to speak English. Black people are everywhere and they speak just about every language.

[@angelinaoliver5587]

This right here facts💯💯

[@JerseyDevilJerseyGirl]

Is she crazy??? Joseline isn’t Black lol. For ex, I am Italian and Korean. No Asian person ALIVE would consider me ASIAN-I am MIXED.

[@ohbooyourselves]

In the weeks episode of: Stop trying to force mixed raced people to be black 🎉

[@ruthquetant7375]

Reason amber rose bothers me is because she is completely OK with benefiting from Black culture but now wants to distance herself from black people

[@cheftruvii6146]

Am I the only one that have noticed Envy never does his homework? Almost every interview he never knows what’s going on or happen recently.

[@TalkswithBellaTT]

People know who’s black when it’s time to. But when it’s convenient..EVERYBODY black 🙄 You having some black IN you don’t make you a whole entire black person.

[@breepandora]

Not Ti having to take us to school and breakdown Amber Rose's Ethnic background. Cause y'all be dragging it and I do think Joseline is jealous of Amber because of her looks. In her mind, if it was a rating show Amber would be considered the "most exotic" based on her looks n because she is mixed 16:33

[@Prettygirlvita]

I remember when nobody wanted to be black back in the day . Now everybody wants to be black

[@Trendsetter5420]

People want mixed ppl to choose to ease their insecurities (the non mixed) . It’s like “whixh side u on? I need to know bc I’m uncomfortable with not knowing who you are and where u stand as I already feel ppl against me bc of my identity “.

[@suejam5419]

For years and year latinos always said that they were latino, just like Joselyn used to do. But now all of a sudden they want to say they are black.

[@dreamlovermimi9458]

Because Their are Black Latinos, white Latinos, Nativo Latinos etc. mixed ( majority) becuase Latino is not a race its a culture and geographic area of the world .

[@suejam5419]

@@dreamlovermimi9458 the majority is mixed and identify themselves as white. But suddenly we have the latino 2.0 claiming to be full black. Get the entire F out of here.

[@kayb.7038]

There have always been Latinos who identify as black. Half of my family is from Loiza, Puerto Rico, a town that is known for celebrating our African heritage. There are also black Latino artists who identify as black and have made music to uplift black Latinos. Some examples are Las Caras Lindas De Mi Gente Negra by Ismael Rivera, La Negra Tiene Tumbao by Celia Cruz, and Loiza by Tego Calderon.

[@hel0vespinky]

From what I saw most people did not care that she considers herself mixed. Most people i saw were upset because she said she never felt comfortable in the black community when she’s literally gotten all her coins from the black community

[@dcc-randomstorieswithmel7424]

Did you support her?

[@omonaijaj]

People supporting you online and in media is different from real life/personal spaces though....

[@toddfrench600]

GET IT NOW LOVELYTI!! SUNDAY AFTERNOON TEAAAAA!! I LOOOOOOVVVEEE IT 🤪🤪

[@sheenahines4714]

Very,very, very true. We welcome any race into our culture, Asian and other cultures don't accept others into their culture heritage, especially when it comes to marriage.

[@jasminelaine1003]

If Amber never broke down her genealogy, I never would have thought she had any black at all. I guess Kanye dating her was the first clue that there was very little lol

[@Zerrific]

Thank you Ti for showing Amber’s story- thank you for enhancing this “gossip” 💜💜💜

[@RL-nur6se]

I just always admire my modern day encyclopedia-historian Lovelyti. Keep it up.😊

[@jasminemosquera6394]

I feel the same way about us Mexicans. Mexicans wanna welcome white ppl into our culture because they feel accepted but once we start to feel like “oh they’re appropriating our culture” they wanna call it out. Colorism is a thing and most ppl in Latin America want to ignore and excuse it. It’s internalized colorism and racism.

[@blessing5173]

But some Mexicans are white tho

[@Dominican1923]

Mexican isn't a race alot of Mexicans are literary WHITE..... Canelo Alvarez is a white boy

[@moniquecastelo]

as a brazilian woman I don't understand what's wrong with claiming you're mixed and being proud of who you are, you don't have to pick a side, and as people in Brazil we're always taught our history and that we should proud to be such a melting pot of all types of cultures, italian, indigenous, japanese, africans, you name it, if you're mixed you have the best of both worlds in you ❤️

[@earlinebeaman684]

Brazil is majority black and colorism is a real racial problem in that country. Racism runs high. Creoles are the result of whites, blacks, mixed and remixing. The original people came from West Africa as slaves on a slave ship. My cousin was married to a creole. They were called by another name before they were called creoles. by the way that's where we get Gumbo from. The slaves from west africa that were taken to the islands brought the knowledge of those foods over with them.

[@silviasweetie3341]

@@earlinebeaman684 nop majority is mixed , blacks are minority in Brazil

[@silviasweetie3341]

concordo

[@sadebraimah5962]

@@silviasweetie3341. black people are not the minority in brazil. brazil has the largest population of black peoples outside of Africa pls be fr.

[@gracegreen1859]

@@silviasweetie3341I think you meant to say Black is the majority and mixed is one of the other lesser percentages.

[@purebeauty504]

I appreciate how you BREAK IT DOWN and include useful information into your videos. Great job...this is how its supposed to be done. 🙏🏽❤️👏🏽🌹

[@MariaSimmons-l6w]

I have a white parent and a black parent. I consider myself a proud black woman. I don't deny my Irish heritage. I just feel that I've experienced life as a Black American and that's how the world sees me.

[@alexdewayne9392]

I'm African American and Panamanian. I usually say I'm black. But people see me as a light skinned black guy on the darker side. Some ask me if I'm mixed and I tell them. My mother is pretty much my color. I just never put too much thought to it.

[@jnaybillingsley2102]

Is Panamanian Spanish and which end of Spanish

[@Eva-fe6jl]

Hey Lovelyti!! I am a new member and your deep dives are awesome!! Thank you for all your work

[@Lovelyti_TV]

thank you so much for watching!!❤

[@CRURayality]

Didn't the police report say white when she was arrested?

[@jnaybillingsley2102]

Lol

[@jjmusiclover3]

This is INSULTING. joseline acts the way she think she should bc she’s “black” this is black behavior to her and she’s accepted by the black community for it. Its really disgusting

[@truthspoken8567]

She’s not really acting though.

[@ahearttoascend]

Ti. I can't with Joseline. She has accepted no accountability whatsoever. 🙄

[@sayecarrie]

Great points Ti. In regards to Joseline, being Afro-Latino or Afro-American doesn't literally mean you have an Afro. Afro-Caribbean means a Caribbean person of African descent. Joseline herself has been anti-Black and disparaged Black people, especially Black woman. In the case of Amber, she always said she was multiracial. I think the problem is her benefit ing from Black spaces. Yet again, it is the same Black people putting her on a pedastal. Amber even made disparaging remarks about the unambiguous Black girls she grew up with in Philadelphia.

[@bossytweed6664]

I just wish Black Americans would stop having this conversation. It's like some of us are the only ones that just don't get it. Hang it up!

[@josephinebournes8212]

Very true!!!!

[@tremorchrist9986]

Isn't Joseline's nickname literally the Puerto Rican Princess"??

[@amgooder]

She's a black Puerto Rican.

[@Lulu060986]

Puerto Rican can be black, white, Asian, mixed, indigenous

[@Dominican1923]

Puerto Rican isn't a RACE.......

[@Dominican1923]

If Viola Davis calls herself American princess is she no longer BLACK?????

[@SableDevon]

I think if we knew more about our background and how colonization and slavery worked we wouldn’t have this same dang conversation. My only issue is when people are dismissive to their black parent and try to be nasty about it. But it’s cool be mixed be white be black once upon a time none of this mattered and once you weren’t even called black, white or mixed.

[@laurendukes3099]

They want our rhythm, but not our blues. Joseline is Black for profit. Amber is mixed & nothing wrong with that. Amber shouldn't let Joseline's ignorant self affect how she identifies.

[@mandatereporter7928]

Those 2 woman will never get treated like a Pure Black Woman They couldn't handle it

[@naturallydunn]

I’m black. Both of my parents are black! You are not me.

[@Tristan11406]

SAY THAT! 🤣✊🏾

[@Dominican1923]

You look Dominican 🇩🇴 Brazilian 🇧🇷

[@princessdyn]

Joseline wishes she had the same privileges as Amber. She cannot claim "exotical-ness" on the basis of her skin and hair unlike Amber. She can only claim it by association due to being Puerto Rican and speaking Spanish. That's the only way she can claim to be superior to full black women because that's the real issue, wanting to be seen as "better" than BW by black men. The whole is pathetic... has nothing to do with me as a black woman 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@rosegrable6359]

Congratulations ti on almost to a million subscribers

[@honeyg1018]

What gets me is her saying “I decided to be black”

[@MsAmberlynn21]

Ti!!! You used my Great-great uncles clip in here!!! Dr. Morris Jeff Jr.! I recently connected with my father’s side of the family and we are the Jeff’s. He opened public parks and places for specifically black people to go that didn’t exist in New Orleans. Proud to know I’m part of a lineage that wants to help improve the well-being of the black people 💕💓🥹

[@charlieb1976]

The issue is that A LOT of Biracl people, ESPECIALLY WOMEN go hard about NOT BEING BLACK, BUT NEVER GO THAT HARD ABOUT NOT BEING WHITE! There's a lot of gaslighting going on in these comments already. Lemme disengage.

[@DrKoko90]

Really? I see the opposite. In efforts to fit in, they go out of their way to solely identify as black and denounce their white side; which is also wrong to me. If they are both, let them identify as both. I don’t feel anyway about them identifying as what they are. 😂

[@mariastewart8810]

Thanks Ti for the lesson on Cape Verde islands where the people are mixed heritage of black(28%), mulatto (77%), white. They were colonized by the Portuguese during slavery. Amber is definitely of mixed heritage and should embrace that. Blacks welcomed her with open arms based on the black men she dates.🤔😒

[@bobbyfitzgerald4165]

First Evelyn Lozada, now Joseline is " black" all of a sudden 😑 girl bye latinos come in all shades

[@princessathena2271]

I am biracial i AM BLACK and i AM WHITE i am both i dont claim just one i claim both it really shows that Joslin hated her black side until she thought it was cool i never heard say she was mixed or black on love and hip hop i always heard her say She was puerto rican and that's that

[@charismao5515]

This was a whole read. Finally someone who is speaking the truth! Black women have caused this confusion by not protecting their image and identity. Period!!!!

[@earlenewilson3136]

Always coming with facts and common sense

[@MochaSmokaLatte]

When you grow up in south Florida every island person is super proud of where they from and some do feel more elite than the African Americans… ie Jamaicans, Haitians, Puerto Rica ect. She always been proud of being black.

[@coym5452]

My family is like that on my dad’s side, but my moms family are all light skinned and they are more proud to be black then my dads side . And my older sister is all black but is light skinned.

[@kikimac224]

Tell it lovelyti . Thanks for stating the facts