Josh Allen doesn't need Stefon Diggs

Colt McCoy, AQ Shipley, Jay Gruden and Justin Pugh discuss the outlook for the Buffalo Bills as we head into the 2024 NFL Season, and if Josh Allen can overcome the departure of Stefon Diggs and Gabe Davis
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[@natividadsalinasii2629]

It’s an echo chamber. They let a 32 year old safety go that lost his legs, they let Tre White go because he had an Achilles tear, another safety is 33 and he retired. The significant loss is Mitch Morse. One can argue Diggs, depending on how they’ll view the situation. But the Bills didn’t really lose out on all these players. These were all old, hurt, inconsistent, or drama queens.

[@njkoch]

I like Morse, even rock his jersey, but he was getting beat in the middle. It was time to move on from him. I liked the moves they made on the OL. Whether it's the rookie or McGovern in the middle, I think it was good move.

[@whittle2k]

​@@njkoch you know ball

[@njkoch]

@@whittle2k Thanks.

[@JasonCovell]

couldn't have said it better

[@richardkalin8184]

The moves they made weren't bad, they were necessary. Guys were getting old and hurt often, and Diggs wanted out.

[@teejay33955]

Coach knows what he is talking about and 3 other former players know absolutely nothing about the Bills

[@upstatenydude8322]

Josh Allen has always been a beast in the playoffs. The defense has let the team down, and special teams. Stefon Diggs was a non-factor in the Bills' late run last season. They proved they can do it without him. I love Gabe the person, but he was never a true #2. Poyer and Hyde had their worst season in Buffalo last year.

[@re2pect129]

The last two times they played the chiefs in the playoffs. Defense lost that game. Allen did what he had to do to get them to win.

[@whittle2k]

These guys did not research this team before they hit record. When shut up and dribble actually applies

[@alex-id6mn]

That was a great point about Mahomes having Andy Reid as his play caller.

[@ericaures4734]

Been saying that for years. Besides, those that favor Mahomes over Allen lose sight that Allen’s always had them in a position to win or tie we he finished his last drive of the playoff matches against the Chiefs…the defense didn’t show up (specifically the pass rush) and neither did Stephon.

[@njkoch]

The Bills won in spite of Diggs at the end of last year. He fell off the map. It was Cook, Shakir and both TEs. Gabe Davis was a blocking receiver last year. If he couldn't win on the first move he was covered every time.

[@Jooba1776]

Yeah these guys don’t watch the games

[@njkoch]

@@Jooba1776 Agreed, they just kept with the same talking head narrative going all offseason since diggs got traded.

[@stevedent292]

That's ridiculous. He had over 100 catches. Before the coordinator change, he was a league leader. He LED the league in 3rd down conversions...which is a HUGE stat. That's a guy Allen relied on in big moments, and now he is gone. Add to that, he also loses Gabe, there's no way Allen can carry rhe load with those losses

[@njkoch]

@@stevedent292 you said the key word, "before the coordinator change"

[@MrDhughes3]

And they were garbage. But cool stats bro. They were a better offense under Brady and not Diggs focused. Davis was a no show most games. He made more key drops than key catches. No Bills fan cares that he left. My gosh, stop watching ESPN or FS1, who don't know anything about the Bills.

[@seleb1539]

Not having Diggs around will benefit Josh. Freedom. Diggs was non existent in the second half of last season and the Bills made a push to get into the playoffs.

[@robrays]

im getting JAY GRUDEN IS THE TRUTH tatted on my forehead

[@troykuhn6186]

He made me lol. “What are you guys talking about?” 😂

[@chetjablonski1993]

4 realz

[@ravenclaw9122]

These guys know allen is like 9/10 highest paid qb right?

[@Jooba1776]

Bills winning the east

[@paulcaruana4090]

11th

[@josephhanover873]

He’s the 11th highest paid lol

[@paulotoole86]

Holy shit thank god for Jay Gruden bringing you guys back to planet earth maybe do some research on the topic first before so you don’t sound this out of touch guys

[@josephzaccagnino6641]

Why is Gruden the only one on here who sounds like he knows what he's talking about?

[@BillsMafiosoo]

Josh Allen hasn't lost anything. I believe he will win Mvp this year regular season and Superbowl.

[@roundhouse8003]

The way everyone been talking, if Josh Allen gets this team to the playoffs this year he deserves unanimous MVP.

[@whitetailscout4069]

Picking Josh Allen to pass for LESS than 3,800 yards? This is the modern NFL, the only way he passes for less than 3,800 yards is if he misses significant time with injury.

[@T.R.75]

Bills fan, was sorry to see Mitch go, but McGovern will be fine. hell, its possible the rookie takes over at center and McGovern goes back to guard and owns there like he did last season. as much as i loved Poyer, he was slowing and age was catching up with him. Tre White was hurt the most of the last 2 seasons, so we found players to replace him. Diggs gave us 4 great years, if he didnt want to be here anymore, bye. team learned they could win without him the last half of the season. Gabe was mia most of the season as well. the only loss this offseason that bothers me is Floyd. guy was a force until he got injured later in the season. Bills do have a brutal schedule this coming season.

[@njkoch]

100% I wish we could have kept Floyd. He was the biggest surprise from free agency last year

[@peterwilson4865]

Floyd wasn't injured. He just ran out of steam and got like 9/10 sacks in the first 10 games of the season and proceeded to do nothing down the stretch and in the playoffs. Paying another 32 year old pass rusher 10+ million would've been a terrible move. AJ at the lower cost is the better option all day.

[@thesedaze2381]

They are completely underating the Bills offense. Shakir and Samuel will have 75 catches each to replace Diggs and Davis. Of course kincaid will contribute his 75+ and everything Coleman gives will be gravy. High TD's over high catches would be great for Coleman.

[@orphy6869]

The Bills will win the east(again)..they will finish top 3 in the afc(again)...and if the Bills defense stays healthy they will win the Super Bowl

[@donnyfoster1859]

Oh stop we not winning the Super Bowl , we have nobody on the outside , Coleman can’t get separation in college , Beane high as a kite picking that dude just like Elam, nfl dbs are faster, stronger more athletic, Allen not going to throw to someone who not open and hope they go up and catch the ball

[@MarcusAurelius3347]

“He’S 1B foR SuRe”.. 17 more tds than the 1A guy just last year..

[@paulcaruana4090]

Count the # of receivers who had their BEST year w/ Allen. Not all of them household names. Watch Samuel ball this year

[@robertw4196]

Right? Beasley, John Brown. Diggs 4 best years of his career were in Buffalo.

[@TheBottomLineView]

Jay is literally me.

[@alexisandrose5435]

Just watched your video 😂😂

[@cjgobills5422]

Lower on his passing tds is wild 💀💀💀💀

[@meatwad61]

Such a breath of fresh air when the one homie spoke up.. way to just roll with the lowest common denominator Allen takes yall - McDovern will be fine at center. Let’s go Buffalo

[@luloffadam]

Again national media just likes to talk, not really knowing what they are talking about out. Very reactionary, at least Jay can set these guys strait. Makes sense that the coach would know what’s what. PS maybe find some tighter shorts to wear next time, nothing better than fat guys in spandex!

[@abel3694]

Mahomes still had one the best if not the best TE to play the game lol

[@dorothyhunter4656]

If the bills have a successful season. I dont want these haters. Jumping on the bandwagon 😂😂😂🎉. Clearly none of these guys have watched last season. They really need to stop 😂😂😂😂

[@bullzeyez3236]

Going to save this video so i can come back and laugh when the Bills easily go 11-6

[@David35687]

At 12-5, I will laugh even louder.

[@ipetloudog]

Watching Jays face the entire time the 2nd viewing is incredible

[@fitzmagic1]

"Josh needs to start making plays now that diggs is gone" wtf 😅

[@michaelrusso5597]

Can I ask a question with the other three guys on the couch with there head up there ass Davis has one game in the playoffs and everyone thinks he is great but even in the last year he didn't show up in six games with not a catch and all the dropped balls. And it showed when they stopped throwing the ball to Diggs the Bills looked better mike

[@nunoalvarespereira87]

Diggs disappeared in the 2nd half of the season, curiously that's when Buffalo started playing their best ball. His departure is being way overstated.

[@billsmafia1609]

Just found this and i love the calls by gruden! MAFIA STAND BY THIS GUY !!!

[@clemonaid333]

Guy next to gruden forgot Josh Allen has been the bills run game the last 4 yrs.

[@kc-dagr8172]

Spot the one WITHOUT CTE

[@jasonlarson9886]

How can so many former NFL players not know ball like this?

[@user-ft3oc7ks9z]

Thank god for coach.

[@blackunited62]

2:28 Jay Speaking Facts 💯

[@blackunited62]

5:51 Unanimous 1

[@AJ-yf4ks]

Yeah, I understand completely. I’m gonna listen to a guy who played quarterback and was relevant in 2009 then went to the NFL and played for what 5 or 6 different teams as a back up. Enjoy that quarterback of the year award in 2009.

[@aydpeepee]

if they go 8-9 I will buy a membership to this channel

[@fptrugby1992]

Jay Gruden the only guy on this show knows what he is talking about

[@NtourisSgtJackMichoff]

Remember they have an all pro sliding into the center spot

[@yousefyahya9856]

Jay Gruden new Bills head coach #gobills

[@marks5759]

ahh the talking heads, dont really have any talent on offense....lol what ever will they do without, Stefon "I disapear in big games, and only avg 40 yards a game last 10 games" Diggs and Gabe "I drop the Ball, Inconstant" Davis. Kincaid is about to blow up, Knox is healthy... Shakir had more yards and TD then Diggs last 10 games of the year, and please dont tell me because Diggs was doubled because he was not, Teams did not fear him anymore. Samuel will out play anything we ever got from Davis and Colemen and cast will catch on quick enough. Not to mention Cook and Rookie cook out the backfield. The Defense is returning 10 1/2 of there starters from the last half ot he season, remembe White didnt play almost all year, and Rapp played about 45-50% snaps at safety.. Rasul and Benford where top 10 PFF focus each.. sure they lost depth at DLine but I dont think any of those depth pieces even mattered. Hyde and Poywer where both getting long in the tooth and needed to inject youth there. These dudes need to do research before opening their mouths. Milano being back alone makes the Defense better not to mention Von a year out from his ACL, oh and for the Center he was their last year, he knows how to make the calls. Gruden the only one that seems to know what he is talking about. Shipley doesn't have a clue, 3 great weapons lol, diggs 1400 yards, no he barley had 1000, and davis is the most inconsistent WR ive seen in a very long time..... "Great" dude seems like a hater for sure...

[@SwampusMcGarniglus]

These guys takes scream "I didnt actually watch the games, but the highlights were nice". i hate saying this but Gruden is the only one making sense.

[@brikwal9]

Lol Bills gonna be ass without Diggs. Wont finish .500. Lol I could write an ecr paragraph too with stats but dont fewl like it. Laughing will suffice. 😂

[@SwampusMcGarniglus]

@@brikwal9 I dont think you could.

[@marks5759]

@@brikwal9 must be a dolphins fan tired of watching your team get it's ass handed to it every year.

[@brikwal9]

@@marks5759 lol absolutely not. But that team will fare better than the Bills.

[@hunterdiprosa143]

It’s why people should listen to local podcasts/articles/takes. National media like these guys don’t watch and pay attention to everything happening to the Bills. Sucks to lose the core guys but some of those players are just old🤷‍♂️. Better to get the youth movement in now

[@Mr.Tspeaks]

I mean with all those players the team was still ALL on Allen's shoulders so honestly not much of a difference now! Mitch is the biggest loss but was heading towards the end of his career. With drafting Coleman they signed 3 other WRs who are all on Gabe Davis level if not better (he was the TRUE definition of "Boom or Bust" and Samuel might have the best year of his career now and Shakir is shifty AF if anything they upgraded at WR since Allen doesn’t have to force feed Diggs! I see them breaking even give or take a game.

[@chadpowers8842]

Bills won 6 games in a row with Diggs hardly getting any targets. They lost more games when Diggs was more involved. Josh has won plenty of games without Mitch Morse too. The Bills have still have a ridiculously stacked D coming back healthy this year. Just depends on how they put it together against their own division, which i think history shows they always outperform... particularly at the end of the season when it matters most. They're still the top dog of their division and there's literally nothing to point to to dispute that as of right now.

[@SamDwelling]

Gruden is on the money, Its Josh fuckin Allen

[@jennacarlson7466]

“You’re not throwing to Chase Claypool” yeah he won’t. Claypool is WR6 and gonna be on ST dummy. He’s throwing TDs to Shakir, Samuel, Coleman, Kincaid, Knox, and Cook

[@matthewmcgaw2182]

Tell me you don't know the Bills roster without saying you don't know the Bills roster. Mention La'el Collins. Morse was good but Bates and McGovern will fit in nicely and maybe be an upgrade.

[@robertw4196]

AQ Shipley. JA is the 11th highest paid QB. How the heck have they sunk too much cash into him?

[@alexisandrose5435]

Did he really just say at 28 Jost don’t call his protections?🤯 stop the bs

[@laurenl6272]

Any team led by Josh Allen (especially right now in his prime) is not going to be a 8-9 team 😂😂

[@laurenl6272]

At least Gruden is still clearly clued into the league 😅

[@sneakerbomb326]

This is laughable. Josh Allen has been putting this team on his back year in and year out🤣

[@theofficialgreenkane9645]

Josh Allen ❤

[@jenwelsby]

Shakir had twice as many yards with half the targets that Diggs had during the final 10 games of the season. Don’t count him out.

[@kimcrist7980]

Thank God Gruden was there.

[@ipetloudog]

Milano and Bernard healthy (please. Please for the love of god please) Rookie in front of Josh that allowed 1 sack in college, including 2 championship games. Joe Brady having HIS playbook (remember we fkn fired Dorsey after we were 6 and mid, then Brady won us the AFCE with diggs as a no show. Josh doesn’t have that Hail Mary anchor to Diggs and now has weapons fkn EVERYWHERE. Maybe Von finally healed. I’m excited. Go fucking Bills

[@ryanstokes5732]

8-8 8-9???? Stop it. They still have a ton of talent

[@adamjaramillo7218]

Kelcey???

[@STEALTTH7]

Lol. "Time for him to carry a team on his back"... he has been doing that more than any other player in the league for the past 4-5 years. He's 80% of his teams scoring. They'll be ok :)

[@STEALTTH7]

And Allens salary is the best deal in the league right now.

[@peterwilson4865]

😂 Jay is the only one with any sense in his head. He's been carrying the team since day 1. He accounts for far more of his team's offense and scoring than any other player in football and it's not close.

[@robertschoelerman7496]

Josh allen is the bills the team don't sniff the playoffs if josh aint the qb if josh was on open market right now there would be a bidding war in the nfl for his services

[@dantheman8152]

We will see. Bills offense will still be good but maybe not dynamic.

[@user-ov1uj1qe6k]

Bro the bills will win 11 to 12 games this year

[@dp3381]

Josh Allen is like the 10th highest paid qb. What is this guy talking about?

[@caseyhonigbaum]

Quite clear only 1/4 people on this show did their research lol They also talk about “dumping money” into Josh Allen? He’s not even top 10 in AAV lmao

[@Lovemate5571]

Well in the end, who's making this analysis? Colt McCoy - a career backup with less than 10K passing yards and a 34/32 TD/INT ratio. Justin Pugh - a little above average Guard with no real accolades to show off. and AQ Shipley who has a SB ring to brag about but he was only the backup to Jensen in that game. Jay Grunden is the only one here with some pedigree that I tend to respect. The rest of those guys have little clue as sportscasters and they weren't even prepared to talk about this topic.... Being a former NFL player only is way not enough to make it as a sports reporter/commentary. Just ask Tony Romo and Romo has more achievements and these three combined.

[@aarontiano3516]

Concerned about what? All the players u named did not contribute to production in the last 6 weeks, all the guys who put up numbers is still there Cook,shakir,kincaid......the only 1 I'll agree with is mitch morse

[@MrDhughes3]

All their best players left on defense? White played 5 games in 2 years. Hyde and Poyer were in decline. Do they know Milano exists, Benard, Johnson, Douglas and Benard, are a great CB tadem, check PFF. Their DLine is the same, really good. Miller has been looking like is old self in camp. Everyone is saying it. They have a lot of depth. The division is tough, it was tough last year, so what. Do some research, my gosh. They just sound like bitter players from other teams, hoping for the Bills demise.

[@dylantarasoff7871]

Guy in the grey is so worked up about his oh Josh allen is getting paid so much, dude he’s the 11th highest paid qb per year, he’s not making as much as he can

[@johns3864]

You guys understand Allen is the 11th highest paid QB in the league right….. You don’t like QBs getting paid so much? He’s making less than Kirk Cousins, Watson, Lawrence, Hurts, Goff and Kyler Murray to name a few…. Allen’s cap at its highest goes up to 60 in 2025 where it’s 3rd at the position and then drops all the way back down to where he’s paid 8-12 at the position for the duration of his contract.

[@captain_pennsylvania]

11 wins easily

[@Nanospoken]

National media is very removed from this team, diggs and Morse were the only two players of impact that left, stop looking at the names, look at the production from the last two years, poyer hyde and tre were shells of themselves when not injured, Davis can't catch or run correct routes diggs falls offa cliff in the playoffs, this iteration of the Bills is diverse and physical

[@scotnic]

It's crazy. I don't think most of these pundits watch the Bills games despite many of them being stand alone games. It sucks but Allen has been an underdog story his whole life. All these clips will make for good material when Disney tells the Josh Allen story in 15 years

[@jd229]

Miami pretty good but get the heck beat out of themselves twice a year by josh every year

[@evang7882]

Ahmen Gruden. The ignorance in this segment is tough to watch.

[@tonyb4252]

Go bills

[@user-lb7gd9mm6f]

These are the same kinda idiots that said the same things about brady and mahomes when they lost top talent - both teams won the super bowl those years - Josh is not just a qb - hes a loved leader and a baller that will stiff arm lb's for an extra 2 yards

[@charlesh1735]

Tough division? If the Bills was in the AFC North they would finish 7-10. They ask Allen to do to much already,we all see he can’t get it done.

[@AJ-yf4ks]

Oh, you mean like Lamar Jackson …. How many playoff games he win?… oh you mean like Pittsburgh Steelers how many playoff games they win? Oh you mean like Joe Burrow how they doing in the playoffs last year? Deep down inside you wish you had Josh Allen on any one of your teams, but keep on hating. It’s you tube

[@scottblakely4419]

Tell me you know nothing about the Bills by opening your mouth period! Seriously! Let all their talent go 🤣 clueless discussion..........

[@jd229]

8-9 team? 😂😂😂😂😂 josh allen won more than 8 games in 2019 before diggs got there and before allen himself majorly improved.

[@tyonhandy2276]

Jon gruden tell the truth I love him time to go play with sorry ass Brothers still won't win the championship

[@FiZZySNiP]

Nothing better than a bunch of washed NFL players who weren’t good during their prime trying to judge the Bills like they have any idea. This reoccurring theme we got worse by getting rid of washed up players is comical at this point. Keep Buffalo out your guys mouth. Jay is the only one who deserves respect.

[@FiZZySNiP]

8-9🤣 find an office job boys

[@BuffBillCam]

Justin Pugh doesn’t know much does he?

[@PB4KC]

Saying Allen is 1A and 1B with Mahomes is absurd

[@robertw4196]

Learn ball. Mahomes is 1a. JA is 1b. No argument.

[@PB4KC]

@@robertw4196 talk to me when JA stops turning the ball over

[@tonawandarock8683]

@@PB4KCtalk to me when PM is on his third OC not named Andy Reid…

[@PB4KC]

@@tonawandarock8683 talk to me when JA wins a Super Bowl with a receiving core full of plumbers

[@peterwilson4865]

​@@PB4KChis defense carried him to both of those, but sure why not.

[@chrisweiser22]

Josh Allen isn’t even in the top 10 of highest paid quarterbacks lol

[@briangreenwood2386]

Hilarious. Again another bunch of uninformed talking heads spewing nonsense they heard on ESPN that came from a bunch of guys who just don't like Allen. Anyone you listen to that has NFL experience &/or extensive knowledge says it's Mahomes & Allen. Pause. Then the rest. I really don't know what people have been watching the last 4 years. We are watching a HOF talent QB. He carries that entire team on his back and barely loses to KC every year. Someone else can help Allen and make a play. Defense do anything. Diggs catch a ball. Make a FG. He literally said it's time for Allen to step up. What in the world? He averages 50+ TDs a year. They let 3 awesome WRs go? Smh. This is so silly. Thank you Gruden for actually scolding these guys and making them sound like knuckleheads. I can't wait until Allen wins that MVP & SB. Idk about this year. He really needs an offensive coach and system imo. Hopefully Joe Brady is the answer. 🙏

[@user-uc5xi2ic9d]

Gabe Davis was a bust, Diggs was in decline, Sherfield was terrible, Harty was too.

[@zlomek2222]

Nice to see experts acknowledge the fact that mahomes has best play caller ever on his side. Would have liked to see Allen play under Reid for 6 years and see how many rings he’s got.

[@ernestdeitz5876]

Never watched this channel before.. glad to see I am not missing anything. Pay all that money to Josh?! He is the 11th highest paid QB in the league. Please have this same energy for the top ten paid QB's. Half the defense was missing last year and McDermott got it done. If your going to talk your talk, do your research first. College degree guys talking like some bums at the bar. You know its bad when Jay Gruden sounds like the only intelligent person at the table.. **Thumbs down**

[@GreasyWop]

Josh Allen is not the best or even second best QB in the league. Gruden glazin his ballbag so hard

[@StephenBurns2413]

Good grief. At least do some research before you record. Brutal.

[@JeffreyHaefner]

Gabe Davis has been AWFUL since drafted. The most overrated WR in the entire nfl.

[@maserips]

Bunch of nobodies talking about the success of Josh Allen? No thanks lol

[@dionwalker2667]

Colt McCoy was a below average QB, he couldn't read defenses, that's why he's never been a household name, Josh was better in his 2nd year, than Colt was in his latter , and earlier years.

[@jamesyoungman224]

Old players.....Steph was an overpaid crybaby

[@paranormalstorytime4825]

Maybe that’s why jay gruden was a horrible head coach Josh Allen hasn’t won anything and now he has lost one of the top 10 targets in the league yes Josh will miss digs

[@teejay33955]

Stick to ghosts Suzy

[@dorothyhunter4656]

He will miss the bitchin 😂🎉🎉🎉🎉😅😅😅. Come on 1 tds from diggs in 4 playoff games 😂😂😂

[@MrGhostface85]

Diggs wasn’t a top-10 receiver while in the Vikings and wasn’t even the best receiver on his own team. He was good for Josh’s development, but Josh made diggs like he made Beasley and John Brown. Just like the two guys sitting in the middle, you watch too much ESPN.

[@dorothyhunter4656]

@MrGhostface85 he went there to be a #1 as gud as diggs is he disappeared in the playoffs - he cannot beat coverage on someone bigger than him - that's fact. Sauce Gardner, trent McDuffie. And snead can vouce for that

[@MrGhostface85]

@@dorothyhunter4656 he hasn’t been that guy in years. He thrived the last 3 years from volume and no real competition from other receivers. In the Bills’ last 3 playoff elimination games, he had 10 catches for 63 yards combined 🤦‍♂️

[@RabbidM0nkey123]

They’re talking about Stefon Diggs like he did something in the second half of the season…. He disappeared off the face of the earth. Josh Allen has better targets now that aren’t divas. The bills are going to be just fine if not better.