Josh Pate On Mississippi State Hiring Jeff Lebby (Late Kick Cut)

[@JoshPateCFB]

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[@gijakob]

Could you talk about the Army-Navy game? I know it might not be best for views but this year it’s going to be a very interesting game considering the loser will end up below .500. Also, thanks for covering my Ok State Cowboys! Go Pokes and Go Army!

[@rushcallahan5150]

MS State graduate here. You nailed most of our mindset. We want to be competitive. Once in a while have a really good year, but be consistent overall.

[@juansorto8411]

Hopefully, they turn things around over there, and they can continue to honor Coach Leach by building a winning program, much like the ones he lead.

[@johnwedgeworth4908]

Josh is right. What us Staters want 1) Win Egg Bowl. 2) Be bowl eligible. 3) At least be in the running to win the west about every 4 years. 4) Make a BCS bowl every 10 years…

[@49shadesofj]

JP...nailed it. We'd love to win every egg bowl but rivalries just dont go that way. Teams used to leave starkville knowing they were in a war. Now lets hope that feeling sticks and they also wonder what the hell happened on that scoreboard.

[@jreadswell904]

It appears our Sippie kids are naturally built for defense. That is the blue collar side of the ball, I suppose. They will always be tough there. The offensive side takes that special guy with creativity.

[@huntercarden3754]

Dude missisippi state hasn’t been good in like 15 years

[@huntercarden3754]

Other than when Dak was there

[@49shadesofj]

@@huntercarden3754 won 9 just last yr.

[@irishseven100]

Tons of talent in State, can he keep some of it at home?

[@jaygremillion]

While I have my reservations about the hire for a variety of reasons, I will so I always appreciate your take on State as it pertains to the fan base. You are spot on. Only a few of those "out there" expect a championship. The vast majority of us simply want to get to bowl games. Win 7-8 games on average. Maybe a 6 win season pops up. But every half decade or so we should flirt with a 9 or 10 wins. Win 2 of 3 Egg Bowls. And make teams dread playing a physical style game. That is it. Blue collared, tough football. Doesn't have to win a championship. You described the vast majority of State fans perfectly.

[@charlottejerde1021]

2:03 lol touche

[@Jimmytrue0512]

Are we going to talk about the art briles connection and his role in any of that mess?

[@caclayton2007]

They might of well just hired Briles. If you're going to throw all moral integrity out the window at least go for the guy that you know can win.

[@RandomNumber6598]

The AD Selmon is also an Oklahoma guy, part of Oklahoma royalty, for reference.

[@1337slic3]

I just hope that, as an Ole Miss fan, we can hate State again. Just couldn't do it with Leach there.

[@denniskoller5662]

"Did anyone know?" Well i sure do now. My God are things heating up in the SEC. Reminds me of The Civil War between the states. All hell's about to break loose

[@igorlobkovenko9480]

Excellent, no-brainer hire for a school that has proper expectations.

[@gbipit1]

We will see Iam sure he can score more than 7 points a game

[@johnwedgeworth4908]

GTHOM! HAIL STATE!

[@Lazarus-nw1ve]

The "FIT" will occur in the programs of Miss. State and Lebby. No where else. When those two concur, wins on the field? Yeah. But losses will not push him or State from the table either. I bet even money they will not be a 60% team either but Better! Josh, you can poke fun at the word "FIT" all you want. But everyone in here knows that Oklahoma, Ucla. USC, LSU, Gainesville and even the beloved Notre Dame are all twice that of Miss. State and Ole Miss. a lot of D2 schools are bigger and have more and better community offers with larger collective bargaining chips to throw out for incentives. Starkville and Oxford just absolutely does not have anything to offer the magnitude of player help, and coaches these other schools have. The new facilities at ATM, alone, can buy half the state of mississippi. He will have to work with an occasional 4-5 star some 3 stars and a bunch of 1-2 stars. If they have stars at all. His "FIT" will be right there. Dan M. Had it. He was a FIT at Mississippi State. Dan Mullen was NOT A FIT in Gainesville. That was strictly money. Period. Can Lebby work with less and accomplish what Mike Leach set out to accomplish (RIP)? Can he pull off a Dan Mullen? If he does, he will be bought on the money trade to go elsewhere. And he will not work out elsewhere, if, if he pulls it off where there is less...much less. The "Wins" in of themselves are not the cornerstones of North/Central Mississippi Football. Wanted and needed? Absolutely. But you can not sell these two programs three feet from an oak tree. Key Largo. Sunset Bar & Grill, Muscle Beach, Overall nightlife, facilities, abundance of resources, even to life follow-thru-programs etc. etc. do not match up with the 401k at the next 100 schools. So yeah, FIT..that another tier 5 or even 10, coach would not touch. Two successful season's, if a third season and he is highly successful he will be hired out. And will not fit.

[@fullarmorofgod9638]

Mississippi state was ranked number 1 in the nation at one point under Dan Mullen with Dak Prescott their capable.

[@Bravesfan12345]

Capable of making the playoffs every 3 years with the 12 team. Just not enough talent to do it every year.

[@blakepittman6679]

@@Bravesfan12345nope, as a graduate, State is a dead end program that will never make the playoff, even with the expansion. They struggle to recruit quality guys and the school does not have much to offer honestly. There is nothing to do in Starkville and that’s why it is the consensus worst college town in the conference.

[@Bravesfan12345]

@@blakepittman6679 would have made it in ‘14 would have competed for it in ‘17, ‘18, and ‘22. Probably won’t happen, and won’t happen are two different things. There is very little difference between the ceiling of ole miss and miss state.

[@blakepittman6679]

@@Bravesfan12345 that is false, Ole Miss has a lot more potential. Oxford is a much nicer place to live, only about an hour from Memphis, and they have significantly better facilities. State literally has NOTHING to offer. They are average from an academic standpoint so they cannot even pull the acceptance rate card. Also, State most certainly would have missed out in 2014. They looked horrible during the final stretch and the committee would have dropped them out.

[@Bravesfan12345]

@@blakepittman6679 they were ranked 8th. They were 10-2. You obviously aren’t a really committed fan. Ole miss doesn’t have more money to spend. Miss state just hasn’t found the right coach to spend money for. The facilites have nothing to do with what can be done in the future. Miss state is closer to Birmingham than ole miss is to Memphis. You’re only good argument is that Starkville is in the middle of nowhere

[@BobbyBopkins]

Not excited to see him go, but we knew he was on the fast track to a head coaching job. Congrats to Lebby. The interesting wrinkle is "Does Dillon Gabriel follow?" There is a lot of hype around Jackson Arnold as the starter for OU next year. Seems almost natural for DG to take his services to Miss State. Boomer

[@Footballshortclipz28]

DG won’t go pro? He’s a 5th year right?

[@BobbyBopkins]

@@Footballshortclipz28 He may enter the draft, but he has 1 more year of eligibility. He could probably do whatever he wants. Don't be surprised if you hear he's transferring, especially with Will Rogers out of Miss St. and DG's history with Lebby.

[@eddie7240]

I think going to Miss will reduce his chance to go pro. He won't perform well there.

[@Footballshortclipz28]

feels like his stock is high enough to be a early 2nd or 3rd round pick@@eddie7240

[@larrycox7169]

Okie here says DG goes to Miss St. DG did an incredible job for us, but the fan base is screaming for Arnold. I wish him the VERY BEST wherever he goes. Great, great athlete! Should have won a Heisman for sure.

[@TheUncleRecoFootballShow]

I love that Kirby talked about Navy Seals and you did as well Josh...but some times you just gotta bring in the Marines to take the village and burn it down....RAHHHHHH

[@rodgerbane3825]

Really good hire, I think his offense is a great fit for a team like Miss. St. Some think that Dillion Gabriel might follow him to MSU.

[@skipgumphrey9579]

That would definitely make even the first season there in StarkVegas have some extra interesting vibes to it. Kudos to State for making a quick decision and getting someone they’re interested in ! RTR

[@soonerborn7603]

Question for Mississippi State fans. And be honest; what will the reaction be when Art Briles is spotted on the field after a game?

[@frankkluz9787]

So - - - what does OU do now ? -- They 'desperately' wanted him in Norman - recently ?

[@lifeislikeaboxofchocolates5383]

He was an ok coordinator idk if I would've hired him but not a bad hire

[@shannonrice8990]

Josh can you do a segment on who Oklahoma is considering for their next oc

[@tacticalmattfoley]

This seems like a very good hire. That guy did an awesome job with Gabriel.

[@xman10290]

The egg bowl is gonna have an over of 300

[@stevensutton1320]

He is not a good OC wish him luck though

[@LivinRentFreeinUT]

Just an average play caller that had the same quarterback for 6 years 🤣

[@D.mastyt]

I smell a national championship coming soon HAIL STATE!!!

[@hunter4net501]

the neck beard isn't very inspiring

[@brynerickson1256]

I want to know how many OU guys JL tries to poach from Oklahoma?!!

[@jeffccr3620]

3 analyst and 1 coach from what I'm hearing

[@mikemikehill3704]

Great hire for msu

[@ezrad3]

As an OU fan, this is the best case scenario. Lebby wasn't, in my opinion, great at all this year. He was too good to justify a firing, but also not good enough to win 10 or 11 games a year. Very happy for the promotion, and wish him the best of luck.

[@bigmixx]

You OK fans are delusional lol.

[@eddie7240]

Lebby is pretty solid overall. His only problem is he becomes super conservative when OU leads by a small margin and quickly punts the ball back to the other team.

[@samt4956]

Top 5 offense in the nation. Scored 65+ 3 times. Maybe you should look at the other side of the ball.

[@carsonjames8891]

I agree. OU's offense may look great on paper but the losses to Kansas and OSU were because of Jeff Lebby. He became way too conservative in clutch-time situations and didn't seem like he knew how to utilize the talent at OU. Happy to see him go.

[@church348]

should be rotting in a jail cell along with his step daddy art briles.

[@owenosier9474]

You made a video about poverty Miss. St getting a coach before making one about Smith heading to Michigan State?

[@kendavis625]

Ms states poor man’s Lane Kiffin

[@SimManiac383]

Nothing on Michigan State and Jonathan Smith?

[@kylem03000]

Just the guy who defended Briles during the rape scandal

[@WhyteRandy]

Maybe Will Rogers will come back

[@Bravesfan12345]

No. He’s transferring for the money. I think state fans want a fresh start anyway.