Josh Powell's master class in saying nothing

[@HLBear]

This is a great example of weaponized incompetence. "I think she has friends... I think she had a job which gave us insurance... I think we have bank accounts... I think I have several bank accounts... I speak enthusiastically about my interests and how we can eat for $5, but I don't know anything about her life at all. Oh, and we do have the kids." 🙄🧐

[@charlotteruse158]

Well kinda. "Weaponized incompetence" is more like saying or acting like you are not capable of doing something to avoid doing that something. It's not feigning ignorance.

[@Vickitheleo]

What he did was beyond horrific.

[@Punchmonkee]

I don’t understand why they never arrested him. Soiled floor, Fans running. The state failed this family 💯 😢

[@terryglendening7166]

What constitutes probable cause?

[@angelwingzzz777]

I agree!!! Who cares for all the excuses. And to the other comment...be quite with probable cause. No one wants to hear that bs!

[@Bdayyyyy]

@@Punchmonkee Per the lead investigator- 'Oh yeah, I wanted to put him in jail,” Ellis Maxwell told 2News in an interview Friday, but said the Salt Lake County District Attorney’s Office would not do it, and kept asking for more information in the case. Maxwell said the requests led to new discoveries, and that investigators were close to getting an arrest warrant, when Josh lit a Washington State house on fire in February 2012, killing himself and the Powell’s two young sons.' He wanted to arrest him on day 2.

[@Punchmonkee]

@ thank you for your service and for that clarification 😊

[@ginaverdi6101]

😢sad for Susan and her boys😢 Hope they are in Heaven reunited❤

[@cindysettles3743]

Talking him out of attorney, if your even innocent GET AN ATTORNEY!, not being charged get up and leave

[@mrjones2721]

Yep. The way the detective pressured him into talking without an attorney was beyond slimy.

[@barbaradoolin4514]

He’s a despicable human being with that said, I have to agree with you!

[@servicedogkyzanna1761]

Yes- DO NOT ever talk to police, they are not your friends.

[@Glowbug18]

This detective was wrong on so many levels. If you've done nothing wrong then why do you need an atty? That's 100% more of a reason to get one.

[@leannabedore]

Makes me wonder if hes on drugs with all the sniffing

[@HLBear]

That's fake sniffling/sadness.

[@vestagirl8484]

@@HLBear💯

[@Katz_Pajamas]

He might've been on drugs, who knows. But that sniffing was him pretending to cry...very poorly tho. People only do those cry sniffs/gasps when they've already cried heavily for over a minute or two at least. And the sniffing shouldn't have that horrible dry whistle sound either. The nose gets runny with true heavy crying, I think bcuz the tears also drain into the sinuses from the inside as well as coming out of the eyes and it softens mucus causing your nose to run. So if nose is dry, that means there wasn't tears.

[@potr6461]

he was crying i think

[@leannabedore]

@@HLBear that's a terrible acting job! Lol

[@barbaradoolin4514]

Shame on the detective for talking him out of an attorney…seems shady to me!

[@smegheadGOAT]

This thing is a monster.

[@sissy4506]

I can't believe what he did to Susan and her boys.His dad was HORRIFIC AND HORRIBLE. I think his brother was involved too

[@lauracook8203]

If they ever do a movie on this, Ryan Reynolds would be perfect, even his voice.

[@carolm.4214]

Who is "John" that Charlie mentioned several times? He said John knows.

[@laurieclarkson9180]

I think John is his uncle. Josh's younger brother.

[@timothyhosek3551]

His sniffles are crazy. Did he do drugs and snort them.....

[@claudiadresel4216]

He sure looks at his hands a lot.

[@Jilla0559]

His Hans are covered in Scratches Why didn’t they test under his nails ?

[@lorileary4432]

In Charlie's interview, Charlie said 'John' ran after Susan into the woods(at Dinosaur National Park),, WHO is 'John' ?

[@temme6545]

Josh’s brother

[@angelwingzzz777]

God these interrogators are so bad. I'm sorry . I truly believe they botched it. They should have arrested him they had plenty of evidence.

[@charlotteruse158]

My thoughts exactly. Terrible.

[@Bdayyyyy]

Per the lead investigator- 'Oh yeah, I wanted to put him in jail,” Ellis Maxwell told 2News in an interview Friday, but said the Salt Lake County District Attorney’s Office would not do it, and kept asking for more information in the case. Maxwell said the requests led to new discoveries, and that investigators were close to getting an arrest warrant, when Josh lit a Washington State house on fire in February 2012, killing himself and the Powell’s two young sons.'

[@ReneeHatin]

This Detective has the patience of a saint i could not deal with his endless jibberish which means absolutely nothing

[@lauracook8203]

When someone expresses that they'd like a lawyer, is it ethical or even legal to try to talk them out of it? I thought all questioning (he asked why he wanted one and what good did he think a lawyer would do- he wanted Josh to answer questions, not a lawyer.) I thought they had to shut it down completely. Or is that only after an actual detainment or arrest? Of course now we know he did it but at this point she was still considered missing.

[@servicedogkyzanna1761]

Nope- anything that detective said beyond when Josh said ATTORNEY would have been struck from any court proceeding by any halfway competent attorney.

[@Glowbug18]

They didn't mirandize him so technically not under arrest.

[@BDaltonYoung]

It is actually a misconception that the police have to stop talking as soon as a suspect says anything related to "attorney". "Spontaneous utterances" or other unprompted responses are allowed as evidence, according to the Supreme Court. It also works if the suspect starts talking to the police voluntarily. These are the reasons that police will do things like sit in the interrogation room and fill out paperwork silently with a suspect across the table: it is to make the suspect start talking to them again without a lawyer present. There are also cases where the request for a lawyer was "unclear" according to the police, and the courts have upheld that their continued questioning was legal (in reality, they were just being obtuse and using linguistic gymnastics to violate a person's civil rights). Source: read the book "You Have the Right to Remain Innocent" and watch the lecture here on KZbin. When the police want to talk to you about anything other than your name and what you are currently doing at this current exact time and in your current exact location (e.g., "I am John Smith and I am trying to get back into my house because I locked myself out by accident"), then you say "I want a lawyer." and repeat that in response to every question until you are talking to your lawyer.

[@aracnadei13]

@@BDaltonYoung Thank you, someone who actually knows what they're talking about and backs it up with source info. Not only that but even when they are legally obligated to stop asking questions, in many instances they can still make statements all they want. Statements such as "If you don't have anything to hide, you would want to talk to us. Asking for an attorney is something only guilty people would do, and we are just here to try and help you." If you start talking again after that, then you are agreeing to continue the discussion. A smart cop will verify that you indeed want to keep talking at that point, which we've seen innumerous interviews.

[@Michael-h5r3c]

The one cop talking all that crap about their going to find anyway. And then they didn't arrest him is stupid.

[@ReneeHatin]

Love how he goes down a rabbit hole all about hes not sure on anything to his likes and dislikes has nothing to do with who does she hang with whatta tool this guy

[@ProvingSpooky]

Immediately fake cries 😒

[@Katz_Pajamas]

The dry sniffles were like nails on a chalkboard. The nose usually gets runny bcuz tears also drain inside the sinuses and soften the mucus. Dry nose means no tears. 4 yr olds fake cry better than that.

[@ReneeHatin]

She was the bread winner and he spent and stepping up in your creep factor doesn't count as a job

[@Jilla0559]

So Mom and Dad took both Boys camping. Charley and Dad came back to the house. Mom and the 2yr old disappeared. Where did Charlie go ?

[@Katz_Pajamas]

💯

[@charlotteruse158]

huh?

[@thomasingebrigtsen1948]

Dad and the two boys came back the mother was the only one that went missing she supposedly didn't go camping with them

[@alnadewet8843]

There was enough circumstantial evidence to interview his sister? Or his family?..... Daycarer wasn't so nice.....?The Police should have locked him up!!!Attorney? REALLY?

[@deannawheeler4362]

If they would have locked him up those boys would still be alive!!!!! So sad, RIP Babies.

[@Michael-h5r3c]

I heard the DA didn't want to try to case without a body. The fact that they left those boys with this piece of crap just blows my mind. The state takes people's kids away for almost nothing. The fact that a moron could tell you he killed his wife. The cops f up on this one.

[@ReneeHatin]

He was gonna be a realtor i wouldn't go alone on any open house tours with him hea a creepy dude

[@rebelojean5900]

The sniffing! 😤

[@matildagreene1744]

Good example of the two court systems. One for the people with $$..One for those without it. Many rich people get a lawyer present with the slightest HINT of trouble...🙃

[@kali-wolf]

Not true, you're given a lawyer if you can't afford one (for crimes only I think). Everybody who winds up in an interview room can say they don't wish to talk without a lawyer and the interrogation ends. Now when it comes to convicting and punishing a rich person, that's different, but everyone gets a lawyer.

[@LadyLeviathan001]

@@kali-wolf the average public defender has a total of 7 minutes per defendant to review cases they're assigned to.... Money makes all the difference. We also have a cash bail system in this country. If you don't have money, you're guilty. Period.

[@timothyhosek3551]

I remember this case. Didnt his dad do it because he was obsessed with josh,s wife. There is a 48 hours documentary on ot and its real good.

[@angelwingzzz777]

It wasn't even her day to work.. and Josh is steady deleting things off his phone while we wait for voicemail 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@laurieclarkson9180]

Who is "They"? hey said I should get an attorney. They said I'm in over my head. weird. He's real angry about that daycare lady having the key.

[@mrjones2721]

He named the legal aid group shortly before he said that.

[@evolvedmadam]

They are prepaid lawyer services or something like that he mentioned at the beginning that he had spoken with them on the phone on the way over.

[@leannabedore]

Monster!!!

[@Glowbug18]

The guy said he wanted an atty, let him have an atty. This detective was so wrong in talking him out of his atty.

[@lilyv2884]

Is he always this delayed with his answers? It seems like simple answers take him a long time to come out.

[@cindysettles3743]

Your free to leave but not 😂

[@marlajestice2785]

Why the WORDS In transcript say Music?

[@SavingOurRepublic]

This is horrid but he should've gotten a lawyer. The police are to stop all questioning as soon as one requests a lawyer! Maybe, if the police would have followed the law this dude would be in prison and the boys would be alive. The lawyer could have kept him calm and thinking more rational so maybe to boys would still be alive 😢😢

[@dinamarshalek1195]

The detective is a G.

[@daylinlott5723]

A master class in manipulation by a very smooth cop. There, fixed it.

[@spaceballs44]

I wish Susan never got involved with Josh. If she was my friend I would have pointed out his failures in communication his angressive disposition and he is a manipulative narcissist. She would have met someone much better if she naturally let it happen and not felt the urgency to have someone.

[@mrsjaskel]

“So tell me about Susan:” -well I like wood working, working on the house, art…He knew nothing about his wife bc he didn’t give a rats patooty about her or his family. Glad he’s not here anymore, just wish he didn’t take his kids with him.

[@cindysettles3743]

Five bucks for the whole family? 😮

[@vtec230]

Don't know anything about this guy or the case or victim or if he is guilty but that sniffle is the fakes sniffle I've ever heard...so I'm going to assume this is bad acting nd he is guilty

[@ulknatmelknatu]

1.25X or bust.

[@HLBear]

Some of us get more from the real pace. It emphasizes when he is hedging vs enthusiastic.

[@dsn385]

@@ulknatmelknatu 1.50 works.

[@DopamineDecor]

Thanks.